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Mort saying Wade Phillips hired as Cowboys HC (1 Viewer)

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Going to be a long day of drinking for Bentley tomorrow. :goodposting:

 
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As a Cowboys fan I am not going to say it is the pick that makes me the happiest but I am much happier with him than Rivera. It makes a lot of sense to hire someone with experience running the 3-4 considering the amount of picks made the past couple of years.

 
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pgreenfan said:
As a Cowboys fan I am not going to say it is the pick that makes me the happiest but I am much happier with him than Rivera. It makes a lot of sense to hire someone with experience running the 3-4 considering the amount of picks made the past couple of years.
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Phillips was the best choice out there IMO
 
PC coming today. :confused:

All the newspapers are reporting it's Wade.

BREAKING NEWS

Cowboys to hire Phillips as head coach

By CLARENCE E. HILL JR.

STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER

After the second-longest and most exhaustive search in Cowboys history, owner Jerry Jones has found his man.

Former Chargers defensive coordinator Wade Phillips flew from San Diego to Dallas late Wednesday night and is working out contract details to become the seventh coach in Cowboys history.

A formal announcement is expected later Thursday.

Phillips, 60, emerged from a group of 10 candidates -- the most ever interviewed for the Cowboys job.

In the end, he edged out 49ers offensive coordinator Norv Turner, who served a similar role with the Cowboys on the 1992 and 1993 Super Bowl title teams and was considered the favorite for the position after Bill Parcells' retirement Jan. 22.

Turner had hoped his close relationship with the Jones family and familiarity with organization would make a difference -- especially because Jones was seeking a coach with whom he could be comfortable and someone he could have fun with after four years with the grumpy Parcells.

The laidback nature of Phillips, a native Texan and son of former Oilers coach Bum Phillips, proved to be good enough for Jones.

Phillips had previous successful experiences as a head coach with Buffalo, Denver, New Orleans and Atlanta and his expertise with the 3-4 defense. The Cowboys made the switch to the 3-4 two years ago and have spent considerable resources drafting and signing players to play the defense. Jones did not want to change schemes.

Considering that the continued development of Pro Bowl quarterback Tony Romo was a key factor in the coaching search, the choice of Phillips also means that the Jones is comfortable with former Cowboys backup quarterback and recent hire Jason Garrett running the offense.

Garrett has been coaching only two years -- as quarterbacks coach of the Dolphins. But he spent 12 years in the league as a backup, including seven behind Hall-of-Famer Troy Aikman in Dallas.

Jones believes Garrett is one of the league’s bright offensive minds and sees him as a potential head coach one day. Garrett was initially interviewed for the head coaching job, but two days later he joined the staff as offensive coordinator.

Turner has a strong relationship with Garrett and would have been a willing tutor. But there is no question who would have been in charge of the offense in that scenario. With Phillips as coach, Garrett is in complete charge of the offense while being prepped to become the team’s next head coach.

Phillips’ age and experience suggests that he won’t have a long tenure in Dallas.

But that doesn’t mean the Cowboys aren’t hoping it will be a successful one.

After going 9-7 and losing in the wildcard playoffs, the Cowboys believe they are close to making a championship run, which is why they were looking at a veteran coach.

And Phillips has a winning record as a head man. He is 48-39 in previous stints with the Saints, Denver, Buffalo and Atlanta.

He has led his teams to the playoff three times and is winless in those wildcard games.

Phillips’ most successful run was in Buffalo where he had a 29-19 record in three years and led the Bills to the playoffs twice. His tenure there was overshadowed by a 1999 wildcard playoff loss to the Titans on the now infamous Music City Miracle kickoff return for a touchdown on the final play of the game. He was fired the following season.

Other coaches who interviewed were former Cowboys receivers coach Todd Haley, Cowboys secondary coach Todd Bowles, Cowboys offensive line coach Tony Sparano, Saints defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs, 49ers linebackers coach Mike Singletary, Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera and Colts assistant head coach/quarterbacks Jim Caldwell.

 
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By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News

cwatkins@dallasnews.com

The Cowboys have selected Wade Phillips as their next head coach, according to a source.

An official announcement could occur today.

Phillips, the San Diego Chargers' defensive coordinator, didn't return repeated phone calls Wednesday night or early Thursday morning.

Owner and general manager Jerry Jones and executive vice president Stephen Jones could not be reached for comment.

Cowboys / NFL Source: Phillips to be named Cowboys coach

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Wednesday evening, Phillips' agent, Gary O'Hagan, said he had not heard from the Cowboys.

Jones who interviewed Phillips on Jan. 26, decided to go with a defensive-minded coach over Norv Turner, San Francisco's offensive coordinator, who was considered a finalist for the position.

The move is a surprise because of Turner's close connections to the Cowboys. He was the Cowboys' offensive coordinator from 1991-93 and helped form Troy Aikman's Hall-of-Fame career. He was perceived as someone who could develop quarterback Tony Romo.

In addition to Phillips and Turner, the Cowboys interviewed Jason Garrett, whom sources have said is expected to be named offensive coordinator, New Orleans defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs, San Francisco assistant head coach/defense Mike Singletary, Chicago defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, Indianapolis assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell, who met with the Cowboys on Wednesday, and three members of Parcells' staff: Tony Sparano, Todd Bowles and Todd Haley.

In choosing Phillips over Turner, Jones decided between coaches with extensive experience in the Cowboys' two areas of focus: quarterback and defense.

Turner is noted as an excellent offensive coach who also gets credit for the development of San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith. 49ers coach Mike Nolan said he doesn't want to lose Turner because of how he has improved Smith's game.

Last week in Miami, Turner - and Garrett - celebrated with Jones when former Cowboys receiver Michael Irvin was selected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But Turner's head coaching record is not a glossy one: he's 59-83-1, including playoffs, with Washington and Oakland.

Phillips was the first candidate interviewed not to have a tie to the Cowboys. This will be Phillips' third full-time head coaching job and the first since leaving Buffalo in 2000.

In three years with the Bills, Phillips had a 29-19 record and made the playoffs twice but did not win a playoff game. Buffalo has had just one winning record and has not made the playoffs since Phillips was fired following the 2000 season. He was 16-16 from 1993-94 with Denver, making the playoffs once. He held interim head coaching jobs with New Orleans (1985, 1-3) and Atlanta (2003, 2-1).

Under Parcells, the Cowboys were 34-30 in the regular season and failed to win a playoff game.

The Cowboys were drawn initially to Phillips because of his work with the 3-4 defense. Over the last two seasons, the Cowboys drafted and signed players for the 3-4, like nose tackle Jason Ferguson and bigger linebackers, like DeMarcus Ware and Bobby Carpenter.

But Phillips' version of the 3-4 attacks more than the one the Cowboys have used. Linebacker Shawne Merriman led the NFL with 17 sacks in 2006 and has been named to the Pro Bowl the last two years. In 2005, San Diego had the top-ranked run defense, and in 2006 the Chargers led the NFL with 61 sacks.

"I feel, defensively, he was one of the things we needed to come in," said Cowboys outside linebacker DeMarcus Ware from Hawaii, the site of Saturday's Pro Bowl. "We have so many guys that can do good things. And Wade just has an aura about him of what to do with those guys. I feel he can come in here and teach us something."

Ware also said he talked with Merriman about how Phillips gets a defense going. Ware said he was impressed with how Wade used his personnel, especially on blitzes.

Born in Orange, Texas, Phillips went to Port Neches-Groves High School and was a linebacker at the University of Houston. He joined the NFL in 1976 under his father, Bum, as a linebackers coach with the Houston Oilers.

After meeting with the Cowboys, Phillips said, "I'm going to go on my record. Usually, when you're gone as a head coach, it's because you haven't won enough games. I've won as a head coach, been in the playoffs three of the five years that I've been a head coach. And, overall in my career, I've been lucky to be with a lot of great teams that won a lot of games."

 
Seems to me that Phillip's is a keep the seat warm hire, until JJ feels comfortable in giving the HC job to Garret :boxing: .

 
Marginally better than Norv. I don't see why it is necessary to keep hiring these old retreads that haven't proven they can win as a head coach (in fact they have borderline proven they can't win) when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot. Maybe he is just a one year hire with the Boys going after Cowher next year.

 
How much has baby Bum decided he can be a disciplinarian? He's a great DC, one of the best IMO, and probably deserving of a crack at another HC job. The only place he was horrible was in Denver, and I think that had more to do w/ the talent they were bringing in. Shanahan turned the team around with the talent infusion of Zimmerman, Schlereth, Eddia Mac, Rod Smith, TO, Mobley, Neil Smith, etc. He wasn't completely without blame there, but he wasn't completely at fault either.

Solid hire in a very depleted field. I can't think of anybody that would have been an obvious better choice. So, why not?

As a side note, this bodes far worse for the Chargers than it does well for the 'Boys.

 
Bevo said:
Marginally better than Norv. I don't see why it is necessary to keep hiring these old retreads that haven't proven they can win as a head coach (in fact they have borderline proven they can't win) when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot. Maybe he is just a one year hire with the Boys going after Cowher next year.
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People love to be critical with no analysis.Who should have been picked as the "Clear" choice.
 
Bevo said:
when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot.
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With a team like the Lions, I would agree that taking a chance on a young coordinator would be a better move. With this team, I think bringing in a guy that is probably the best 4-3 guy available, has HC experience, and will take the job is a far better move. It's not like he was a pathetic coach. He took mediocre talent in Denver and Buffalo to the playoffs. Has he gotten better? We don't know. Not every coordinator promoted becomes Sean Payton. More become like the Ray Handleys of the league. had tuna made his decision sooner, maybe they are choosing from a richer field, but that's not the case.
 
Bankerguy said:
Bevo said:
Marginally better than Norv. I don't see why it is necessary to keep hiring these old retreads that haven't proven they can win as a head coach (in fact they have borderline proven they can't win) when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot. Maybe he is just a one year hire with the Boys going after Cowher next year.
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People love to be critical with no analysis.Who should have been picked as the "Clear" choice.
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Cowboys got a little screwed in the timing of the tuna's retirement.They had to take who was left. Norv/Wade was the only real choice.
 
PMENFAN said:
Bevo said:
when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot.
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With a team like the Lions, I would agree that taking a chance on a young coordinator would be a better move. With this team, I think bringing in a guy that is probably the best 4-3 guy available, has HC experience, and will take the job is a far better move. It's not like he was a pathetic coach. He took mediocre talent in Denver and Buffalo to the playoffs. Has he gotten better? We don't know. Not every coordinator promoted becomes Sean Payton. More become like the Ray Handleys of the league. had tuna made his decision sooner, maybe they are choosing from a richer field, but that's not the case.
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huh
 
Does anyone else find this ironic??

Wade Phillips appears to have been chosen over Norv because he will do what the owner wants while Norv was according to the rumors going to buck Jones on the Garrett as OC and play caller.

IIRC, Norv was hired by the Raiders because he was seen as a HC who would work with and for a headstrong owner who wanted things his way. While he didn't succeed, he did things the way Al Davis wanted to do things.

And IIRC, Phillips was shown the door in Buffalo because he would not cater to Ralph Wilson. THe owner and the GM wanted certain coaches to be fired. Phillips said that he would not fire them and he would go if they go. So off he went.

Guess several years in exile as a DC has changed Phillips' mind; and several years as the Oakland HC changed Norv's mind as to how to run things.

 
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As a niner Fan....... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :clap: :lmao: :wub: Norv :wub:

Time to get down to business. Sign A. Thomas and Samuel.

Superbowl here we come!!!!!! :popcorn:

 
Bankerguy said:
Bevo said:
Marginally better than Norv. I don't see why it is necessary to keep hiring these old retreads that haven't proven they can win as a head coach (in fact they have borderline proven they can't win) when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot. Maybe he is just a one year hire with the Boys going after Cowher next year.
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People love to be critical with no analysis.Who should have been picked as the "Clear" choice.
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Russ Grimm. At least with Grimm you have a guy who's got untapped potential and who may end up being your long-term coaching solution. Phillips and Turner both have demonstrated limited potential as head coaches in multiple locations. After 2-3 years (my anticipated tenure for Turner or Phillips in Dallas) you'd be no worse off with Grimm than you'd be with those guys and you might have discovered another good, young head coach who you'd like to continue on with.
 
Emmitt Smith said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
As a Bills fan... ;)
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The Bills are a HORRIBLE organization. So are the Falcons and Saints. That's like not taking a chance on somebody who formally coached the Browns. (See Patriots HC)Since he's what we are forced to live with I'll give him a chance.
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Actually, what he did in Buffalo (two double digit win season) is far more impressive than the .500 record he posted at a far better organization in Denver (with one playoff loss) with John Elway in his prime at QB. :hot:
 
Some people are meant to be coordinators and not head coaches. I simply don't agree with the re-tread approach usually. But, Belichick was a retread too, so maybe it works. I think Tuna's message got old.

 
T Man said:
Does anyone else find this ironic??

Wade Phillips appears to have been chosen over Norv because he will do what the owner wants while Norv was according to the rumors going to buck Jones on the Garrett as OC and play caller.

IIRC, Norv was hired by the Raiders because he was seen as a HC who would work with and for a headstrong owner who wanted things his way. While he didn't succeed, he did things the way Al Davis wanted to do things.

And IIRC, Phillips was shown the door in Buffalo because he would not cater to Ralph Wilson. THe owner and the GM wanted certain coaches to be fired. Phillips said that he would not fire them and he would go if they go. So off he went.

Guess several years in exile as a DC has changed Phillips' mind; and several years as the Oakland HC changed Norv's mind as to how to run things.
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I have no comment on Phillips, but in Norv's case I think what it is is an interesting statement on his priorities. Norv considers himself an offensive coordinator above all else. That's the responsibility that he must have. He pays more attention to that than even to the quality of the organization that he's the head coach for. If he's the play-caller, then it would appear that he cares little about anything else about an organization as long as they'll hire him as head coach. That blindness or disinterest in the other aspects of an organization despite how important they are to determining success or failure as a head coach is probably very much related to his failings over the years as a head coach.

 
Demons said:
Some people are meant to be coordinators and not head coaches. I simply don't agree with the re-tread approach usually. But, Belichick was a retread too, so maybe it works. I think Tuna's message got old.
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Bill failed in one place, and that failure had a lot to do with two things that were unique to time and place:1) the dispute between the Browns and Cleveland over the stadium was reaching a head, and he ended up getting fired because IMHO the now-Ravens wanted a fresh start with a new coach in their new digs.2) the Browns organization and ownership had no collateral interests to use to fund their efforts. The Modells only had money to spend on facilities, players, etc. when that franchise made money, which put them at a tremendous competitive disadvantage to other cash rich teams. These aren't the only two reasons, and Belichick shares in the blame and has acknowledged as much. The main point here, though, is that a failed coaching effort in one place may not be enough of a pattern for you to draw any big conclusions about someone. Both Phillips and Turner have failed at two places.
 
As a Chargers fan :cry: Losing both coordinators is huge. That means Marty will get more involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball.

 
T Man said:
Does anyone else find this ironic??

Wade Phillips appears to have been chosen over Norv because he will do what the owner wants while Norv was according to the rumors going to buck Jones on the Garrett as OC and play caller.

IIRC, Norv was hired by the Raiders because he was seen as a HC who would work with and for a headstrong owner who wanted things his way. While he didn't succeed, he did things the way Al Davis wanted to do things.

And IIRC, Phillips was shown the door in Buffalo because he would not cater to Ralph Wilson. THe owner and the GM wanted certain coaches to be fired. Phillips said that he would not fire them and he would go if they go. So off he went.

Guess several years in exile as a DC has changed Phillips' mind; and several years as the Oakland HC changed Norv's mind as to how to run things.
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This was debunked this morning and is false in its highest order. Norv said this was not the case.
 
I'd figure the concept of a Bills fan is completely foreign to a Cowboys fan. If nothing else, Cowboys fans are the epitome of bandwaggoners (not all, but it's a global view), while Bills fans have been boiled down to only the most hardcore, diehard ones.

 
BigTex said:
T Man said:
Does anyone else find this ironic??

Wade Phillips appears to have been chosen over Norv because he will do what the owner wants while Norv was according to the rumors going to buck Jones on the Garrett as OC and play caller.

IIRC, Norv was hired by the Raiders because he was seen as a HC who would work with and for a headstrong owner who wanted things his way. While he didn't succeed, he did things the way Al Davis wanted to do things.

And IIRC, Phillips was shown the door in Buffalo because he would not cater to Ralph Wilson. THe owner and the GM wanted certain coaches to be fired. Phillips said that he would not fire them and he would go if they go. So off he went.

Guess several years in exile as a DC has changed Phillips' mind; and several years as the Oakland HC changed Norv's mind as to how to run things.
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This was debunked this morning and is false in its highest order. Norv said this was not the case.
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And Norv's incentive for saying otherwise even were it true would be . . . ? :goodposting:
 
I am a Bills fan, and I think it is a good hire (an i mean that in a good way).

A certain percentage of Bills fans are so stupid the only criticism they could come up with for Wade was that he didn't wear a headset on sideline when he took the top coach job.

Wade got railroaded by Ralph Wilson. Wilson was trying to run the team from his box by dictating to Phillips to play Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie one week and vice versa the next. And then the locker room got torn apart by those two.

The Cowboys are now assured of having a top 5 Defense from now until the time Wade leaves.

The problem as I see it is the hiring of Garrett before the HC was named. It kind of handicaps the HC from bringing in the guy he may have wanted to bring in. I know he is only the QB coach as of right now but there is some speculation JJ wants him to be the OC.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
Grigs Allmoon said:
As a Bills fan... :lmao:
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Hi Grigs,Who was the last head coach to take the Bills to the playoffs?
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Exactly.Relative to the knuckleheads Tom D brought in, Wade was the poster boy for success. He is a first class guy, an amazing defensive mind, and overall has done a great job everywhere he has coached. If not for the TENN fiasco, Buffalo was the team to go all the way - the team no one wanted to play. He had them playing out of there mind, and arguable :( was the only team to hand it to the Titans in their own house. I still think they would have stomped the Rams that year. I wish he was still with the Bill's organization, and we can erase the last few years of TD wiping out Buffalo's heritage.Someone pointed out the reason he left - he refused to fire his one great, lousy hire of a special teams coach. A guy who had never coached STs. This after firing Dehaven, a carry over from the Bills heyday and one of the better NFL ST coaches of the last 20 years. He scapegoated BD for the Homerun Throw Forward, and fowled up his own hire. Live by the sword, die by the sword....But the real deal behind his firing stemmed from something he said in the playoff hunt his last season. In a team meeting he came out and told the team to play for pride...yada yada...because they had no chance of going to the playoffs. And what happens? A team with the same playoff probabilities, the Colts I think, end up getting in as a WC.This was the real problem, directly and indirectly. Wade was not seen as a coach with a fire in his belly. Can't say its true given his NFL success, but there you have it. Oh, and the Buffalonians really hated that he wouldn't wear a headset on the sideline....
 
The Bills were 6-10 the year before Wade took over, and 3-13 the year after he left. While Wade Phillips was head coach, they were 29-19.

 
Bankerguy said:
Bevo said:
Marginally better than Norv. I don't see why it is necessary to keep hiring these old retreads that haven't proven they can win as a head coach (in fact they have borderline proven they can't win) when they could take a young coordinator and probably have as good (or better) chance of hitting the jackpot. Maybe he is just a one year hire with the Boys going after Cowher next year.
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People love to be critical with no analysis.Who should have been picked as the "Clear" choice.
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Sorry, I didn't realize that we are required to give an analysis in every post where we might have an opinion. I will follow a few of your posts and see how well you do on consistently posting an analysis with your opinions, maybe I can learn something at the knee of a giant.I don't know that there is a "Clear" choice at this time, the Fat Tuna kind of screwed the Boys with his crappy timing. That being said I would have rather seen a younger guy like Rivera over an old retread.
 
Marauder said:
As a Chargers fan :unsure: Losing both coordinators is huge. That means Marty will get more involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball.
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:no: It's really going to be up to the players this coming season to make it a success. What's worse is this is only part one of the coaching housecleaning - part 2 happens after next season. No stability is bad for continued success. :shrug:
 
Gr00vus said:
Marauder said:
As a Chargers fan :lmao: Losing both coordinators is huge. That means Marty will get more involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball.
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:goodposting: It's really going to be up to the players this coming season to make it a success. What's worse is this is only part one of the coaching housecleaning - part 2 happens after next season. No stability is bad for continued success. :lmao:
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:bye: :unsure: ;) :shrug: ;) :lmao: Of course this happens now when the Chargers finally have the talent on both sides of the ball to be solid for a few years straight. I heard this when I was driving into work today and I about blew out the windows of my car with the F bomb I screamed out.
 
DPRugby said:
Gr00vus said:
Marauder said:
As a Chargers fan :bag: Losing both coordinators is huge. That means Marty will get more involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball.
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;) It's really going to be up to the players this coming season to make it a success. What's worse is this is only part one of the coaching housecleaning - part 2 happens after next season. No stability is bad for continued success. ;)
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:bye: :) ;) :lmao: ;) :bag: Of course this happens now when the Chargers finally have the talent on both sides of the ball to be solid for a few years straight. I heard this when I was driving into work today and I about blew out the windows of my car with the F bomb I screamed out.
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I'm thinking we may have to write off 2007. My hope is that in 2008 they find some way to talk Vermiel out of retirement to take Marty's place. That plus no major significant injuries would bring SD a superbowl winner. I know it seems far fetched, but I can dream. :fingerscrossed:
 
Gr00vus said:
DPRugby said:
Gr00vus said:
Marauder said:
As a Chargers fan :cry: Losing both coordinators is huge. That means Marty will get more involved in the play calling on both sides of the ball.
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;) It's really going to be up to the players this coming season to make it a success. What's worse is this is only part one of the coaching housecleaning - part 2 happens after next season. No stability is bad for continued success. :cry:
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:cry: :D :cry: :wall: :cry: :wall: Of course this happens now when the Chargers finally have the talent on both sides of the ball to be solid for a few years straight. I heard this when I was driving into work today and I about blew out the windows of my car with the F bomb I screamed out.
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I'm thinking we may have to write off 2007. My hope is that in 2008 they find some way to talk Vermiel out of retirement to take Marty's place. That plus no major significant injuries would bring SD a superbowl winner. I know it seems far fetched, but I can dream. :fingerscrossed:
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We're gonna have to start a support group. :thumbup:
 
that why you have to win when all the parts are in play and have a 14-2 regular season and HFA throughout.

now a totally new coaching staff except Marty. geez

 
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