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Moss Staying In New England (1 Viewer)

The Patriots and receiver Randy Moss have agreed to a new contract worth $27 million over three years, Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com reports.

A league source told Florio, who is a contributing writer for SportingNews.com, that the contract has not been signed yet and the language is being finalized.

ESPN.com's Chris Mortensen is reporting the same contract terms.

Moss caught an NFL single-season record 23 TD passes, all from Tom Brady, who threw a record-breaking 50. After playing in every game through his first six seasons in Minnesota, Moss has missed games in two of the past four seasons.
 
There's no way the Patriots will pony up the money for Moss. He was a one year rental on the cheap. This is what New England does. When players get pricey they let them go...just like they'll do with Moss. With Marvin Harrison ailing I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in Indy...or maybe in Jacksonville.

 
There's no way the Patriots will pony up the money for Moss. He was a one year rental on the cheap. This is what New England does. When players get pricey they let them go...just like they'll do with Moss. With Marvin Harrison ailing I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in Indy...or maybe in Jacksonville.
Ummm, have you been in a cave today?
 
There's no way the Patriots will pony up the money for Moss. He was a one year rental on the cheap. This is what New England does. When players get pricey they let them go...just like they'll do with Moss. With Marvin Harrison ailing I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in Indy...or maybe in Jacksonville.
:goodposting:
 
There's no way the Patriots will pony up the money for Moss. He was a one year rental on the cheap. This is what New England does. When players get pricey they let them go...just like they'll do with Moss. With Marvin Harrison ailing I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in Indy...or maybe in Jacksonville.
Ummm, have you been in a cave today?
Finless is $$$. You just gotta get him. :rolleyes:
 
There's no way the Patriots will pony up the money for Moss. He was a one year rental on the cheap. This is what New England does. When players get pricey they let them go...just like they'll do with Moss. With Marvin Harrison ailing I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign in Indy...or maybe in Jacksonville.
Ummm, have you been in a cave today?
Finless is $$$. You just gotta get him. :rolleyes:
I suppose I'm a bit out of the loop after a near 3 month vacation away from this place. :wub:
 
Finless did leave out the reunion with Chad Pennington in New York, the TO and Rocket Randy Show in Big D, the one year late trip to the Frozen tundra with Brett Favre slingin' the rock, and his chase for a championship with Daunte Culpepper in some unknown uniform. Slacker.

The Pats and Randy Moss made the right decision here. Both parties are better served with each other. I'd be surprised if Randy Moss doesn't have a Super Bowl ring on his finger by the end of his 3 year deal.

 
Finless did leave out the reunion with Chad Pennington in New York, the TO and Rocket Randy Show in Big D, the one year late trip to the Frozen tundra with Brett Favre slingin' the rock, and his chase for a championship with Daunte Culpepper in some unknown uniform. Slacker.

The Pats and Randy Moss made the right decision here. Both parties are better served with each other. I'd be surprised if Randy Moss doesn't have a Super Bowl ring on his finger by the end of his 3 year deal.
:lmao: That was one of the funniest things I've heard all year. It was like an Onion Sports Exclusive They were actually runnin this on the news with old pictures of them in Minnesota :confused:

:lmao:

 
Finless did leave out the reunion with Chad Pennington in New York, the TO and Rocket Randy Show in Big D, the one year late trip to the Frozen tundra with Brett Favre slingin' the rock, and his chase for a championship with Daunte Culpepper in some unknown uniform. Slacker.

The Pats and Randy Moss made the right decision here. Both parties are better served with each other. I'd be surprised if Randy Moss doesn't have a Super Bowl ring on his finger by the end of his 3 year deal.
:shrug: That was one of the funniest things I've heard all year. It was like an Onion Sports Exclusive They were actually runnin this on the news with old pictures of them in Minnesota :mellow:

:confused:
John Clayton has to be feeling like a horses ### right now. What a ridiculous "story".
 
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
 
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
Moss is making 9M a yr... and he will see all 27M in those 3 yrsBerrian's Contract: per Rotoworld

3/1/2008: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal included a $16 million signing bonus. He'll make $23 million in the first three years.

so Moss gets 15M Guaranteed in 3 yrs / BB gets 16M Guaranteed in 6yrs.

Moss didn't due the Pats any Favors; he got more than what Jerry Jones had to pay TO for 3 yrs. 27M in 3 yrs w/ an avg of 9M a yr is a lot of money... I can not think of any WR making more $$ in that span of time.

What Moss did do for the Pats is saving them a messy contract dispute when hes 34. I see Moss playing this contract out... winning a SB Ring and riding into the sunset.

 
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
Moss is making 9M a yr... and he will see all 27M in those 3 yrsBerrian's Contract: per Rotoworld

3/1/2008: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal included a $16 million signing bonus. He'll make $23 million in the first three years.

so Moss gets 15M Guaranteed in 3 yrs / BB gets 16M Guaranteed in 6yrs.

Moss didn't due the Pats any Favors; he got more than what Jerry Jones had to pay TO for 3 yrs. 27M in 3 yrs w/ an avg of 9M a yr is a lot of money... I can not think of any WR making more $$ in that span of time.

What Moss did do for the Pats is saving them a messy contract dispute when hes 34. I see Moss playing this contract out... winning a SB Ring and riding into the sunset.
He'll demand a contract extension in two years and ask to get cut/traded if he doesn't get it.
 
New England pays $9mil a year for a 23 TD WR. MN pays 7 for Bernard Berrian, and he got more guaranteed. Not to knock Berrian, but he's had 13 TDs in 4 years. For the money, I think its a little bit of a no-brainer that Moss' contract is relatively sensible. $10 mil was my personal cutoff mark. They got him in under that number, so Im happy that he'll stay a Pat. TO's contract was signed 2 years ago, and the cap's probably gone up $15mil in that time. I think the contracts are basically the same considering inflation.

Im listening to Andy Reid on the radio right now mention how the Eagles did talk to Moss, but that more or less in his exact words, "he was always going back to the Patriots. He's a good kid...but he was always going back to the Patriots". So, youve gotta give the Eagles credit for making the push. But Moss was probably going thru the motions in listening to other offers. I dont know that they were significantly higher than what New England was offering, but Im absolutely sure that every GM or coach out there shared Reid's sentiments in knowing that Moss intended to go back to the Pats. Unless they made him an absurd, almost non-sensical offer, he was only gonna be wasting other people's time by even talking to them.

Id expect we'll find out the real skinny on why exactly it took 4 days to work out the #s. It may have been ironing out the guarantees or the bonuses. But I really dont think that's it, because I dont think the money they settled on was the issue with New England. I think this was all about Randy Moss taking a few days to enjoy the FA process. To probably talk to a team or 2. Have a little fun. Kindof listen to alot really creative stories about what was happening. He's never been a FA before, so there's gotta be something exciting about knowing you and you alone are the talk of the football world for a few days. In the end, he kept his word and is coming back to join his boy Tommy. And the fantasy football world is a better, safer, more exciting place for it. And the real football season should be better next season because with some of the losses New England's suffered, they'll be just one of several favorites.

 
guess I can keep my screen name for 3 more years....

As we know the Moss and Welker combo is deadly. Not to worried about the 3rd spot.. Offense will be fine.

Time to load up on Defense with some young guys.

 
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
Moss is making 9M a yr... and he will see all 27M in those 3 yrsBerrian's Contract: per Rotoworld

3/1/2008: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal included a $16 million signing bonus. He'll make $23 million in the first three years.

so Moss gets 15M Guaranteed in 3 yrs / BB gets 16M Guaranteed in 6yrs.

Moss didn't due the Pats any Favors; he got more than what Jerry Jones had to pay TO for 3 yrs. 27M in 3 yrs w/ an avg of 9M a yr is a lot of money... I can not think of any WR making more $$ in that span of time.

What Moss did do for the Pats is saving them a messy contract dispute when hes 34. I see Moss playing this contract out... winning a SB Ring and riding into the sunset.
I don't know the exact contract details. I just know the Vikings tend to front load the guarunteed money so the salary cap becomes more manageable for them in following years. So if that is the case here Berrian may be making more money for the 2008 season than Moss will.That Moss and Berrian are even in the same ballpark money wise shows how little Moss cares about the money. How much more could he have gotten if he did? I don't think we will ever know because Moss was going back to the Pats no matter what.

I also think it was pretty gracious of Moss to throw the CPep idea out there. Especially after CPep threw Moss under the bus back when Moss was traded.

 
Biabreakable said:
KellysHeroes said:
Biabreakable said:
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
Moss is making 9M a yr... and he will see all 27M in those 3 yrsBerrian's Contract: per Rotoworld

3/1/2008: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal included a $16 million signing bonus. He'll make $23 million in the first three years.

so Moss gets 15M Guaranteed in 3 yrs / BB gets 16M Guaranteed in 6yrs.

Moss didn't due the Pats any Favors; he got more than what Jerry Jones had to pay TO for 3 yrs. 27M in 3 yrs w/ an avg of 9M a yr is a lot of money... I can not think of any WR making more $$ in that span of time.

What Moss did do for the Pats is saving them a messy contract dispute when hes 34. I see Moss playing this contract out... winning a SB Ring and riding into the sunset.
I don't know the exact contract details. I just know the Vikings tend to front load the guarunteed money so the salary cap becomes more manageable for them in following years. So if that is the case here Berrian may be making more money for the 2008 season than Moss will.That Moss and Berrian are even in the same ballpark money wise shows how little Moss cares about the money. How much more could he have gotten if he did? I don't think we will ever know because Moss was going back to the Pats no matter what.

I also think it was pretty gracious of Moss to throw the CPep idea out there. Especially after CPep threw Moss under the bus back when Moss was traded.
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money? If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.

 
Biabreakable said:
KellysHeroes said:
Biabreakable said:
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
Moss is making 9M a yr... and he will see all 27M in those 3 yrsBerrian's Contract: per Rotoworld

3/1/2008: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal included a $16 million signing bonus. He'll make $23 million in the first three years.

so Moss gets 15M Guaranteed in 3 yrs / BB gets 16M Guaranteed in 6yrs.

Moss didn't due the Pats any Favors; he got more than what Jerry Jones had to pay TO for 3 yrs. 27M in 3 yrs w/ an avg of 9M a yr is a lot of money... I can not think of any WR making more $$ in that span of time.

What Moss did do for the Pats is saving them a messy contract dispute when hes 34. I see Moss playing this contract out... winning a SB Ring and riding into the sunset.
I don't know the exact contract details. I just know the Vikings tend to front load the guarunteed money so the salary cap becomes more manageable for them in following years. So if that is the case here Berrian may be making more money for the 2008 season than Moss will.That Moss and Berrian are even in the same ballpark money wise shows how little Moss cares about the money. How much more could he have gotten if he did? I don't think we will ever know because Moss was going back to the Pats no matter what.

I also think it was pretty gracious of Moss to throw the CPep idea out there. Especially after CPep threw Moss under the bus back when Moss was traded.
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money? If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
Of course Randy Moss cares about the $$. He would be silly not to. At the negotiating table, both sides are trying to win out. It's silly to say Randy Moss was holding the Patriots hostage. The Patriots are trying to do what's in their best interests and Moss is trying to do what's in his best interests..he is a UFA, he is entitled to see what the market is. So after getting the Patriots original proposal and seeing what guys like Stallworth, Porter, and Berrian got in free agency (take the combined stats of any 2 of those guys and Moss still beats them), it only makes sense that Moss asks the Patriots to upgrade their original offer (and by most accounts that upgrade was in terms of overall guaranteed $$)Moss also took less money to stay with the Pats..it's been mentioned in multiple reports that the Eagles offered more. Bottom line is that it was a good deal for both the Patriots and Randy.

 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money? If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... :confused: ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.

 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... :bag: ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Name another WR who scored 23 TDs? That's right...NONE. So what if he called Culpepper? Do you really think Moss is trying to bring Culpeper to New England? To PHI? To wherever? Culpepper can't get a job. John Clayton was about as right as you were while you were running your mouth saying Yudkin didn't know what he was talking about. Turns out he knew a lot more than you did. Bottom line - Moss is a Patriot just like everyone said he would and he took a deal that was good for him as well as the Pats
 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... :unsure: ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Have you not yet learned the difference between an opinion and a fact? That's my problem with shmoes like you. You run your lips and pretend theyre facts. In one sentence, you acknowledge that noone really knew what took place, and in the next you pretend youre in possession of facts. Figure out which is which. And apologize to Dave Yudkin. You questioned the man's sources and his integrity in an absolutely hideous display. I'll go toe to toe with anyone on this board. But with guys here serving this sight who are genuinely making an effort to make a difference, provide a rare behind the scenes opinion, or expertise, Im listening and appreciating the generosity. Id suggest you do the same.

 
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He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... ;) ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Name another WR who scored 23 TDs? That's right...NONE. So what if he called Culpepper? Do you really think Moss is trying to bring Culpeper to New England? To PHI? To wherever? Culpepper can't get a job. John Clayton was about as right as you were while you were running your mouth saying Yudkin didn't know what he was talking about. Turns out he knew a lot more than you did. Bottom line - Moss is a Patriot just like everyone said he would and he took a deal that was good for him as well as the Pats
Still waiting for that WR name your going to give me thats making more than Moss in the next 3 yrs.And sorry; but I had to read Yudkin snip at posters for weeks on how he "KNEW" Moss had a deal in place and as soon as FA opened; Moss would be signed... and he was also taking a discount to help the Pats out.

Well, quit the opposite happened... didn't it. Moss waited till Monday Night to sign; 4 Days into FA and that "discount" turned out to be 9M a yr :rolleyes: .

 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... ;) ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Name another WR who scored 23 TDs? That's right...NONE. So what if he called Culpepper? Do you really think Moss is trying to bring Culpeper to New England? To PHI? To wherever? Culpepper can't get a job. John Clayton was about as right as you were while you were running your mouth saying Yudkin didn't know what he was talking about. Turns out he knew a lot more than you did. Bottom line - Moss is a Patriot just like everyone said he would and he took a deal that was good for him as well as the Pats
Still waiting for that WR name your going to give me thats making more than Moss in the next 3 yrs.And sorry; but I had to read Yudkin snip at posters for weeks on how he "KNEW" Moss had a deal in place and as soon as FA opened; Moss would be signed... and he was also taking a discount to help the Pats out.

Well, quit the opposite happened... didn't it. Moss waited till Monday Night to sign; 4 Days into FA and that "discount" turned out to be 9M a yr :rolleyes: .

 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... :loco: ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Name another WR who scored 23 TDs? That's right...NONE. So what if he called Culpepper? Do you really think Moss is trying to bring Culpeper to New England? To PHI? To wherever? Culpepper can't get a job. John Clayton was about as right as you were while you were running your mouth saying Yudkin didn't know what he was talking about. Turns out he knew a lot more than you did. Bottom line - Moss is a Patriot just like everyone said he would and he took a deal that was good for him as well as the Pats
Still waiting for that WR name your going to give me thats making more than Moss in the next 3 yrs.And sorry; but I had to read Yudkin snip at posters for weeks on how he "KNEW" Moss had a deal in place and as soon as FA opened; Moss would be signed... and he was also taking a discount to help the Pats out.

Well, quit the opposite happened... didn't it. Moss waited till Monday Night to sign; 4 Days into FA and that "discount" turned out to be 9M a yr :lmao: .
Schefter Comments on MossJust click on the link and listen to what Schefter has to say at the 1:58 mark about this deal. Getting Randy Moss in under $10million per after what he just did is absolutely stealing. If you dont know that, youre about the only one.

 
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... :goodposting: ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Name another WR who scored 23 TDs? That's right...NONE. So what if he called Culpepper? Do you really think Moss is trying to bring Culpeper to New England? To PHI? To wherever? Culpepper can't get a job. John Clayton was about as right as you were while you were running your mouth saying Yudkin didn't know what he was talking about. Turns out he knew a lot more than you did. Bottom line - Moss is a Patriot just like everyone said he would and he took a deal that was good for him as well as the Pats
Still waiting for that WR name your going to give me thats making more than Moss in the next 3 yrs.And sorry; but I had to read Yudkin snip at posters for weeks on how he "KNEW" Moss had a deal in place and as soon as FA opened; Moss would be signed... and he was also taking a discount to help the Pats out.

Well, quit the opposite happened... didn't it. Moss waited till Monday Night to sign; 4 Days into FA and that "discount" turned out to be 9M a yr :rolleyes: .
Don't really know what WR name you're looking for..I never said there was a WR making more than Moss over the next 3 years..Moss is making good money and the Patriots got a good deal. If you think Moss didn't have options you're wrong. He could've gotten more money, but took a little less to stay with Patriots. you wanted Moss to sign at 12:01 on Friday...that didnt happen so you're making a big deal out of the fact that he signed 3 days later :rolleyes: Quite frankly you were completely wrong. You started running your trap about how Moss was going to take the money and blah blah blah. Why isn't he on the Eagles then? Yudkin can't control when people sign; but he did say there was a deal on the table from the Pats and he heard it was a done deal. Turned out there was a deal on the table, but Moss took until Monday to sign...Yudkin provided valuable info and you started dumping on him. Face it..Moss is a Patriot..deal with it.

 
More on Moss deal

Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 4, 2008 02:35 PM

Here are some more details on Randy Moss's contract with the Patriots:

Base salaries:

2008: $1.9 million

2009: $6.4 million

2010: $6.4 million

Salary cap charges:

2008: $6 million

2009: $10.5 million

2010: $10.5 million

 
More on Moss dealPosted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 4, 2008 02:35 PM Here are some more details on Randy Moss's contract with the Patriots:Base salaries:2008: $1.9 million2009: $6.4 million2010: $6.4 millionSalary cap charges:2008: $6 million2009: $10.5 million2010: $10.5 million
Hmm.... Looks like a one year deal if Moss acts up, he's cut
 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
jgb95 said:
More on Moss dealPosted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 4, 2008 02:35 PM Here are some more details on Randy Moss's contract with the Patriots:Base salaries:2008: $1.9 million2009: $6.4 million2010: $6.4 millionSalary cap charges:2008: $6 million2009: $10.5 million2010: $10.5 million
Hmm.... Looks like a one year deal if Moss acts up, he's cut
Remember that if they were to cut him they would have paid him $12M signing bonus + $3M in other guaranteed money + $1.9M = $16.9 million to play in 2008. And they would have to take an accelerated cap hit.That being said, I don't think NE is done having to play the contract rework game with Moss at some point in the future, but at least they have him in house again and can worry about that later.
 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
jgb95 said:
More on Moss dealPosted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 4, 2008 02:35 PM Here are some more details on Randy Moss's contract with the Patriots:Base salaries:2008: $1.9 million2009: $6.4 million2010: $6.4 millionSalary cap charges:2008: $6 million2009: $10.5 million2010: $10.5 million
Hmm.... Looks like a one year deal if Moss acts up, he's cut
Remember that if they were to cut him they would have paid him $12M signing bonus + $3M in other guaranteed money + $1.9M = $16.9 million to play in 2008. And they would have to take an accelerated cap hit.That being said, I don't think NE is done having to play the contract rework game with Moss at some point in the future, but at least they have him in house again and can worry about that later.
Plus, with Moss's cap number at a reasonable $6 million in 2008, they still have a bunch of cap room to play with this year. After Bruschi reupped, plus adding Webster today, they've got to still be in the $12-13 million range in available cap space. Still plenty of room to do some more shopping.
 
sib said:
Don't really know what WR name you're looking for..I never said there was a WR making more than Moss over the next 3 years..Moss is making good money and the Patriots got a good deal. If you think Moss didn't have options you're wrong. He could've gotten more money, but took a little less to stay with Patriots.
So Moss is Making the most Money than other WR in the next 3 yrs... that was my pt.
sib said:
you wanted Moss to sign at 12:01 on Friday...that didnt happen so you're making a big deal out of the fact that he signed 3 days 4 Days later :goodposting: Quite frankly you were completely wrong. You started running your trap about how Moss was going to take the money and blah blah blah. Why isn't he on the Eagles then?
As pointed out above... the Pats had to hand over the Most money ever to a WR in a 3 yr period... I can not think of any other WR making 27M in 3 yrs. I don't know what the Eagles were offering... I haven't seen an offical report.
sib said:
Yudkin can't control when people sign; but he did say there was a deal on the table from the Pats and he heard it was a done deal. Turned out there was a deal on the table, but Moss took until Monday to sign
LINK PLEASEso your saying that this 3 yr / 27M was the deal that was spoken about on these boards weeks ago.

sib said:
...Yudkin provided valuable info and you started dumping on him. Face it..Moss is a Patriot..deal with it.
I simply argued with him about Moss signing a "discounted" contract and the guy got in my face about it weeks ago... so yes; when the time came, I got on him. I can admit; I was on the fence about Moss resigning... but I and many others we're correct.. there was not going to be a discount...

 
sib said:
Don't really know what WR name you're looking for..I never said there was a WR making more than Moss over the next 3 years..Moss is making good money and the Patriots got a good deal. If you think Moss didn't have options you're wrong. He could've gotten more money, but took a little less to stay with Patriots.
So Moss is Making the most Money than other WR in the next 3 yrs... that was my pt.
sib said:
you wanted Moss to sign at 12:01 on Friday...that didnt happen so you're making a big deal out of the fact that he signed 3 days 4 Days later :yawn: Quite frankly you were completely wrong. You started running your trap about how Moss was going to take the money and blah blah blah. Why isn't he on the Eagles then?
As pointed out above... the Pats had to hand over the Most money ever to a WR in a 3 yr period... I can not think of any other WR making 27M in 3 yrs. I don't know what the Eagles were offering... I haven't seen an offical report.
sib said:
Yudkin can't control when people sign; but he did say there was a deal on the table from the Pats and he heard it was a done deal. Turned out there was a deal on the table, but Moss took until Monday to sign
LINK PLEASEso your saying that this 3 yr / 27M was the deal that was spoken about on these boards weeks ago.

sib said:
...Yudkin provided valuable info and you started dumping on him. Face it..Moss is a Patriot..deal with it.
I simply argued with him about Moss signing a "discounted" contract and the guy got in my face about it weeks ago... so yes; when the time came, I got on him. I can admit; I was on the fence about Moss resigning... but I and many others we're correct.. there was not going to be a discount...
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...&position=1Three days have passed since Randy Moss hit the open market, reportedly seeking to find a better deal than what the Pats already have put on the table.

However, the Pats’ offer appears to be the only one of note that has been extended to him.

A report by the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter intimated the Pats were “close” to re-signing the wide receiver, and had a “standing multi-year offer to make him one of the highest-paid receivers in the NFL.” Schefter essentially made his case based on what he feels about the negotiation, saying, “It’s not that they’re getting close, I think they’ve always been close.”

 
sib said:
Don't really know what WR name you're looking for..I never said there was a WR making more than Moss over the next 3 years..Moss is making good money and the Patriots got a good deal. If you think Moss didn't have options you're wrong. He could've gotten more money, but took a little less to stay with Patriots.
So Moss is Making the most Money than other WR in the next 3 yrs... that was my pt.
sib said:
you wanted Moss to sign at 12:01 on Friday...that didnt happen so you're making a big deal out of the fact that he signed 3 days 4 Days later :goodposting: Quite frankly you were completely wrong. You started running your trap about how Moss was going to take the money and blah blah blah. Why isn't he on the Eagles then?
As pointed out above... the Pats had to hand over the Most money ever to a WR in a 3 yr period... I can not think of any other WR making 27M in 3 yrs. I don't know what the Eagles were offering... I haven't seen an offical report.
sib said:
Yudkin can't control when people sign; but he did say there was a deal on the table from the Pats and he heard it was a done deal. Turned out there was a deal on the table, but Moss took until Monday to sign
LINK PLEASEso your saying that this 3 yr / 27M was the deal that was spoken about on these boards weeks ago.

sib said:
...Yudkin provided valuable info and you started dumping on him. Face it..Moss is a Patriot..deal with it.
I simply argued with him about Moss signing a "discounted" contract and the guy got in my face about it weeks ago... so yes; when the time came, I got on him. I can admit; I was on the fence about Moss resigning... but I and many others we're correct.. there was not going to be a discount...
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...&position=1Three days have passed since Randy Moss hit the open market, reportedly seeking to find a better deal than what the Pats already have put on the table.

However, the Pats’ offer appears to be the only one of note that has been extended to him.

A report by the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter intimated the Pats were “close” to re-signing the wide receiver, and had a “standing multi-year offer to make him one of the highest-paid receivers in the NFL.” Schefter essentially made his case based on what he feels about the negotiation, saying, “It’s not that they’re getting close, I think they’ve always been close.”
I am still looking for where it says that the Pats had Moss signed prior to the opening in FA. Ofcourse The Pats had an offer to Moss... but as the part I highlighted... he held out for more money. Thanks for proving my pt again.Give it up man... I've been tearing u up all day.

 
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sib said:
Don't really know what WR name you're looking for..I never said there was a WR making more than Moss over the next 3 years..Moss is making good money and the Patriots got a good deal. If you think Moss didn't have options you're wrong. He could've gotten more money, but took a little less to stay with Patriots.
So Moss is Making the most Money than other WR in the next 3 yrs... that was my pt.
sib said:
you wanted Moss to sign at 12:01 on Friday...that didnt happen so you're making a big deal out of the fact that he signed 3 days 4 Days later :goodposting: Quite frankly you were completely wrong. You started running your trap about how Moss was going to take the money and blah blah blah. Why isn't he on the Eagles then?
As pointed out above... the Pats had to hand over the Most money ever to a WR in a 3 yr period... I can not think of any other WR making 27M in 3 yrs. I don't know what the Eagles were offering... I haven't seen an offical report.
sib said:
Yudkin can't control when people sign; but he did say there was a deal on the table from the Pats and he heard it was a done deal. Turned out there was a deal on the table, but Moss took until Monday to sign
LINK PLEASEso your saying that this 3 yr / 27M was the deal that was spoken about on these boards weeks ago.

sib said:
...Yudkin provided valuable info and you started dumping on him. Face it..Moss is a Patriot..deal with it.
I simply argued with him about Moss signing a "discounted" contract and the guy got in my face about it weeks ago... so yes; when the time came, I got on him. I can admit; I was on the fence about Moss resigning... but I and many others we're correct.. there was not going to be a discount...
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...&position=1Three days have passed since Randy Moss hit the open market, reportedly seeking to find a better deal than what the Pats already have put on the table.

However, the Pats’ offer appears to be the only one of note that has been extended to him.

A report by the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter intimated the Pats were “close” to re-signing the wide receiver, and had a “standing multi-year offer to make him one of the highest-paid receivers in the NFL.” Schefter essentially made his case based on what he feels about the negotiation, saying, “It’s not that they’re getting close, I think they’ve always been close.”
I am still looking for where it says that the Pats had Moss signed prior to the opening in FA. Ofcourse The Pats had an offer to Moss... but as the part I highlighted... he held out for more money. Thanks for proving my pt again.Give it up man... I've been tearing u up all day.
Good call I should give it up. I tried to tell you that you're beating a dead horse, but you've already proved what a tool you are in the other Moss thread :yucky:
 
sib said:
Don't really know what WR name you're looking for..I never said there was a WR making more than Moss over the next 3 years..Moss is making good money and the Patriots got a good deal. If you think Moss didn't have options you're wrong. He could've gotten more money, but took a little less to stay with Patriots.
So Moss is Making the most Money than other WR in the next 3 yrs... that was my pt.
sib said:
you wanted Moss to sign at 12:01 on Friday...that didnt happen so you're making a big deal out of the fact that he signed 3 days 4 Days later :thumbup: Quite frankly you were completely wrong. You started running your trap about how Moss was going to take the money and blah blah blah. Why isn't he on the Eagles then?
As pointed out above... the Pats had to hand over the Most money ever to a WR in a 3 yr period... I can not think of any other WR making 27M in 3 yrs. I don't know what the Eagles were offering... I haven't seen an offical report.
sib said:
Yudkin can't control when people sign; but he did say there was a deal on the table from the Pats and he heard it was a done deal. Turned out there was a deal on the table, but Moss took until Monday to sign
LINK PLEASEso your saying that this 3 yr / 27M was the deal that was spoken about on these boards weeks ago.

sib said:
...Yudkin provided valuable info and you started dumping on him. Face it..Moss is a Patriot..deal with it.
I simply argued with him about Moss signing a "discounted" contract and the guy got in my face about it weeks ago... so yes; when the time came, I got on him. I can admit; I was on the fence about Moss resigning... but I and many others we're correct.. there was not going to be a discount...
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...&position=1Three days have passed since Randy Moss hit the open market, reportedly seeking to find a better deal than what the Pats already have put on the table.

However, the Pats’ offer appears to be the only one of note that has been extended to him.

A report by the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter intimated the Pats were “close” to re-signing the wide receiver, and had a “standing multi-year offer to make him one of the highest-paid receivers in the NFL.” Schefter essentially made his case based on what he feels about the negotiation, saying, “It’s not that they’re getting close, I think they’ve always been close.”
I am still looking for where it says that the Pats had Moss signed prior to the opening in FA. Ofcourse The Pats had an offer to Moss... but as the part I highlighted... he held out for more money. Thanks for proving my pt again.Give it up man... I've been tearing u up all day.
Good call I should give it up. I tried to tell you that you're beating a dead horse, but you've already proved what a tool you are in the other Moss thread :goodposting:
good move, sib. this joker's a jag job, and he's just diggin' skin.

 
KellysHeroes said:
He forced them to pony up 9M a yr.... and you say he doesn't care about the money?

If he didn't care; he would of signed at 12:01 am last Friday for 7.5M a yr.. not hold the Pats hostage all weekend and squeeze them for more money.
You are seriously delusional. You have no clue what took place. None. The guy's signed now. Get over it.
Who actually does know what took place... :rolleyes: ; but fact is he held the Pats up for more money... He reportly became frustrated with the Pats and began listening to other Teams. He even called CPep. Come on... you guys are making him out like a hero.

Again; name another WR that is getting more than 27M in a 3 yr time span... NONE. The only one that has a shot is Fitz.
Name another WR who scored 23 TDs? That's right...NONE. So what if he called Culpepper? Do you really think Moss is trying to bring Culpeper to New England? To PHI? To wherever? Culpepper can't get a job. John Clayton was about as right as you were while you were running your mouth saying Yudkin didn't know what he was talking about. Turns out he knew a lot more than you did. Bottom line - Moss is a Patriot just like everyone said he would and he took a deal that was good for him as well as the Pats
Still waiting for that WR name your going to give me thats making more than Moss in the next 3 yrs.And sorry; but I had to read Yudkin snip at posters for weeks on how he "KNEW" Moss had a deal in place and as soon as FA opened; Moss would be signed... and he was also taking a discount to help the Pats out.

Well, quit the opposite happened... didn't it. Moss waited till Monday Night to sign; 4 Days into FA and that "discount" turned out to be 9M a yr :popcorn: .
Isn't Larry Fitzgerald scheduled to make 14mil+ this year and 16mil+ next year? Granted, Randy Moss is no Larry Fitzgerald, but that is 30+ million in only 2 years so I guess your wait is over.
 
I mentioned fitz in a ealier post... And we all know that fitz is going to resign or get cut... Have you been following? I did mention that when fitz does restructure... He will get more than Moss.

 
you guys argue about some funny stuff.

how many td's is he going to get next year? will he push for 20 again? I would think he's the first receiver off the board in pretty much every draft.

 
you guys argue about some funny stuff.how many td's is he going to get next year? will he push for 20 again? I would think he's the first receiver off the board in pretty much every draft.
I think Brady drops back to 35 or so with moss getting half so i'd say 17.
 
So if Moss didn't sign for a discount then that is a problem? If he is going to make more than any other WR over the next 3 years then that is a problem?

Isn't he arguably the best WR in the game? Didn't he just break a record for WR's? I don't see the problem....

 
Is this all guaranteed?
Michael Felger, of Comcast SportsNet, reports the New England Patriots re-signed unrestricted free-agent WR Randy Moss to a three-year deal worth $27 million, with $15 million guaranteed.
I guess I was expecting more...
I find it hard to believe he couldn't get a LOT more somewhere else.
He most certainly could have if he wanted money. I am pretty sure Bernard Berrain is making more than Moss this year.
Moss is making 9M a yr... and he will see all 27M in those 3 yrsBerrian's Contract: per Rotoworld

3/1/2008: Signed a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal included a $16 million signing bonus. He'll make $23 million in the first three years.

so Moss gets 15M Guaranteed in 3 yrs / BB gets 16M Guaranteed in 6yrs.

Moss didn't due the Pats any Favors; he got more than what Jerry Jones had to pay TO for 3 yrs. 27M in 3 yrs w/ an avg of 9M a yr is a lot of money... I can not think of any WR making more $$ in that span of time.

What Moss did do for the Pats is saving them a messy contract dispute when hes 34. I see Moss playing this contract out... winning a SB Ring and riding into the sunset.
I don't know the exact contract details. I just know the Vikings tend to front load the guarunteed money so the salary cap becomes more manageable for them in following years. So if that is the case here Berrian may be making more money for the 2008 season than Moss will.That Moss and Berrian are even in the same ballpark money wise shows how little Moss cares about the money. How much more could he have gotten if he did? I don't think we will ever know because Moss was going back to the Pats no matter what.

I also think it was pretty gracious of Moss to throw the CPep idea out there. Especially after CPep threw Moss under the bus back when Moss was traded.
Has Moss confirmed that he called CPep or put this story out there? I still contend that Clayton made that crap up and looks like an ### for doing so.
 

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