Moss Staying In New England (1 Viewer)

[sib]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss

The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.

Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.

Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

Well, that took about 5 minutes. Ok, so now we have Fitz and Javon Walker making more than Moss and Berrian almost as much. Does KH still contend that Moss held the Pats up?

 

[KellysHeroes]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

I just catch that... OMG... I can not believe this; is Oakland not the worst org in the league. Seriously, didn't Walker need sometype of operation where full recovery isn't Guaranteed and they toss him 27M upfront... Avoid Walker on draft day for sure.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss

The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.

Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.

Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

Well, that took about 5 minutes. Ok, so now we have Fitz and Javon Walker making more than Moss and Berrian almost as much. Does KH still contend that Moss held the Pats up?

What day did FA open up.... and what day did Moss sign? What went on those 4 days... oh yeah; it was Randy Moss playing Cat and Mouse for more Money.

And if Randy Moss didn't hold up the Pats for more money... than tell my he waited 4 days to sign?

 

[Pat Patriot]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss

The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.

Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.

Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

Well, that took about 5 minutes. Ok, so now we have Fitz and Javon Walker making more than Moss and Berrian almost as much. Does KH still contend that Moss held the Pats up?

What day did FA open up.... and what day did Moss sign? What went on those 4 days... oh yeah; it was Randy Moss playing Cat and Mouse for more Money.

And if Randy Moss didn't hold up the Pats for more money... than tell my he waited 4 days to sign?

Maybe Moss was away for the weekend and couldnt get to it until Monday? John Clayton is on ESPN right now reporting that on Saturday Moss and Culpepper were spotted waterskiing on Lake Winnepasaukee in Minnesota together.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss

The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.

Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.

Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

Well, that took about 5 minutes. Ok, so now we have Fitz and Javon Walker making more than Moss and Berrian almost as much. Does KH still contend that Moss held the Pats up?

What day did FA open up.... and what day did Moss sign? What went on those 4 days... oh yeah; it was Randy Moss playing Cat and Mouse for more Money.

And if Randy Moss didn't hold up the Pats for more money... than tell my he waited 4 days to sign?

Maybe Moss was away for the weekend and couldnt get to it until Monday? John Clayton is on ESPN right now reporting that on Saturday Moss and Culpepper were spotted waterskiing on Lake Winnepasaukee in Minnesota together.

So all the reports that went on last weekend we're False??? Is that what your saying?http://rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1655

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Feb. 29 - 12:08 am et

As free agency began Friday at 12:00 AM ET, the Patriots had no deal in place with Randy Moss, according to ESPN's John Clayton.

The 6'4 wideout with 4.3 speed and a 40'' vertical who scored 23 TDs last season is officially open to the highest bidder. The Patriots shouldn't be out of the picture, but the 31-year-old may as well look around.

Heres another one from Clayton

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Feb. 29 - 6:36 pm et

ESPN's John Clayton reports the Patriots are not close to a deal with free agent Randy Moss.

Clayton says Moss is willing to listen to other teams' offers. Moss, 31, probably won't get a six- or seven-year deal, but could become the NFL's highest paid receiver annually on a shorter-term contract if he wants.

I'm not going to just quote Clayton... here was one from Schefter

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Mar. 1 - 9:37 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Randy Moss is "inching closer to the point of frustration" over the lack of contract progress with the Patriots.

We've seen this before, when Adam Vinatieri sat on the market, trying to convince teams he may not stay a Patriot. Other teams may be leery of being a pawn in negotiations, and only a few franchises have the cash and team to make sense. Philadelphia, Denver, Washington, and possibly Green Bay seem like the best fits to us. Dallas doesn't have the cap room.

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Mar. 3 - 1:08 am et

An NFL source confirmed to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that free agent Randy Moss has been shopping himself around the league.

Moss was reportedly unhappy with the Patriots' initial contract offer. However, the NFL Network reported late Sunday that the sides are closing in on a deal and there were even rumblings in Boston about it spanning five years. It wouldn't be a surprise if the Patriots have Moss locked up by Monday afternoon.

So again... if you guys want to contend that Moss didn't put the Pats in a position to demand top dollar... what went on for these 4 days?

 

[Road Warriors]

Interestingly it looks like Javon Walker is making the same money as Moss

The terms of the deal call for Walker to receive a six-year, $55 million contract that includes more than $16 million in guarantees and pays him roughly $27 million over the first three years of the deal.

Soon after being released, at least a third of the league reached out to the six-year veteran.

Injuries limited Walker to eight games last season and he finished with 26 catches for 287 yards and no touchdowns.

Well, that took about 5 minutes. Ok, so now we have Fitz and Javon Walker making more than Moss and Berrian almost as much. Does KH still contend that Moss held the Pats up?

What day did FA open up.... and what day did Moss sign? What went on those 4 days... oh yeah; it was Randy Moss playing Cat and Mouse for more Money.

And if Randy Moss didn't hold up the Pats for more money... than tell my he waited 4 days to sign?

Maybe Moss was away for the weekend and couldnt get to it until Monday? John Clayton is on ESPN right now reporting that on Saturday Moss and Culpepper were spotted waterskiing on Lake Winnepasaukee in Minnesota together.

So all the reports that went on last weekend we're False??? Is that what your saying?http://rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/p...NFL&id=1655

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Feb. 29 - 12:08 am et

As free agency began Friday at 12:00 AM ET, the Patriots had no deal in place with Randy Moss, according to ESPN's John Clayton.

The 6'4 wideout with 4.3 speed and a 40'' vertical who scored 23 TDs last season is officially open to the highest bidder. The Patriots shouldn't be out of the picture, but the 31-year-old may as well look around.

Heres another one from Clayton

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Feb. 29 - 6:36 pm et

ESPN's John Clayton reports the Patriots are not close to a deal with free agent Randy Moss.

Clayton says Moss is willing to listen to other teams' offers. Moss, 31, probably won't get a six- or seven-year deal, but could become the NFL's highest paid receiver annually on a shorter-term contract if he wants.

I'm not going to just quote Clayton... here was one from Schefter

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Mar. 1 - 9:37 pm et

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Randy Moss is "inching closer to the point of frustration" over the lack of contract progress with the Patriots.

We've seen this before, when Adam Vinatieri sat on the market, trying to convince teams he may not stay a Patriot. Other teams may be leery of being a pawn in negotiations, and only a few franchises have the cash and team to make sense. Philadelphia, Denver, Washington, and possibly Green Bay seem like the best fits to us. Dallas doesn't have the cap room.

Randy Moss-WR- Patriots Mar. 3 - 1:08 am et

An NFL source confirmed to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that free agent Randy Moss has been shopping himself around the league.

Moss was reportedly unhappy with the Patriots' initial contract offer. However, the NFL Network reported late Sunday that the sides are closing in on a deal and there were even rumblings in Boston about it spanning five years. It wouldn't be a surprise if the Patriots have Moss locked up by Monday afternoon.

So again... if you guys want to contend that Moss didn't put the Pats in a position to demand top dollar... what went on for these 4 days?

Question about every one of your proof points... Are there any direct quotes from Moss or his agent? Are there any direct quotes from the Patriots reps?It was all speculation. The "rumblings in Boston" were a posting on the boston.com message board. Schefter reports, after the deal, that the Patriots had a deal on the table from the opening.

Most likely scenario? Moss had the Pats offer in hand, thought they may have been a little low, shopped to see what the market was, and found the Patriots to be in the ballpark, and signed the deal. So, was DY and the Pats side 100% right? Nope. The deal wasn't done at 12:01, as many suspected.

But are you and the "Moss will go to the highest bidder" crowd 100% right? Nope again. He checked his market, and came back to the Patriots for less than he could have signed ( according to Reid and Schefter ... Not digging up the article )

If you want to change your tune because he did exactly what those who disagreed with you said he would, just a bit later than they expected and shout to the moutains "Hey, look at me!!!! I was right about Moss!!!" have at it. But its a rather silly position, IMO.

 

[twitch]

Once again, here's the LINK, that I provided in the 33rd post that apparently you chose to ignore, stating in plain english by that league's premier source of information, Adam Schefter, that the contract that Randy Moss signed was the contract New England had in place with him the entire time. You'll find it at the about 2 minute mark of the video. The statement he makes in this video is based on actual FACTS, and it trumps whatever he, or Clayton, or Mort or anyone else out there playing the guessing game was feeding their bosses on the Randy Moss story prior to the actual contract being signed. And whatever fun Randy Moss was having with other teams or the media, was just that, fun. To anyone's knowledge, he didnt ask for anything more than the original deal. And New England didnt give him anything more than the original deal. So, no, the guy didnt squeeze his team for any extra bucks. He'll play there for 3 years and get whatever he has coming to him. And the idiotic contracts of Javon Walker and Larry Fitzgerald, and Bernard Berrian to a degree, just remind us why some teams in this league win, and some teams just dont.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Once again, here's the LINK, that I provided in the 33rd post that apparently you chose to ignore, stating in plain english by that league's premier source of information, Adam Schefter, that the contract that Randy Moss signed was the contract New England had in place with him the entire time. You'll find it at the about 2 minute mark of the video. The statement he makes in this video is based on actual FACTS, and it trumps whatever he, or Clayton, or Mort or anyone else out there playing the guessing game was feeding their bosses on the Randy Moss story prior to the actual contract being signed. And whatever fun Randy Moss was having with other teams or the media, was just that, fun. To anyone's knowledge, he didnt ask for anything more than the original deal. And New England didnt give him anything more than the original deal. So, no, the guy didnt squeeze his team for any extra bucks. He'll play there for 3 years and get whatever he has coming to him. And the idiotic contracts of Javon Walker and Larry Fitzgerald, and Bernard Berrian to a degree, just remind us why some teams in this league win, and some teams just dont.

Come on guys... yeah; Adam Schefter claimed that this was the same deal... but that could be an attempt to save his skin after the last weekend. And if posters are going to request Statements from Moss and/or the Pats about the Reports I toss up from the following weekend; then I'm going to do the same on this. Where is the statement from Moss' people that says this was the orginal deal the Pats offered?And then, as pointed out by RW... its clear that Moss tested the market. You can not fight that.

 

[twitch]

Once again, here's the LINK, that I provided in the 33rd post that apparently you chose to ignore, stating in plain english by that league's premier source of information, Adam Schefter, that the contract that Randy Moss signed was the contract New England had in place with him the entire time. You'll find it at the about 2 minute mark of the video. The statement he makes in this video is based on actual FACTS, and it trumps whatever he, or Clayton, or Mort or anyone else out there playing the guessing game was feeding their bosses on the Randy Moss story prior to the actual contract being signed. And whatever fun Randy Moss was having with other teams or the media, was just that, fun. To anyone's knowledge, he didnt ask for anything more than the original deal. And New England didnt give him anything more than the original deal. So, no, the guy didnt squeeze his team for any extra bucks. He'll play there for 3 years and get whatever he has coming to him. And the idiotic contracts of Javon Walker and Larry Fitzgerald, and Bernard Berrian to a degree, just remind us why some teams in this league win, and some teams just dont.

Come on guys... yeah; Adam Schefter claimed that this was the same deal... but that could be an attempt to save his skin after the last weekend. And if posters are going to request Statements from Moss and/or the Pats about the Reports I toss up from the following weekend; then I'm going to do the same on this. Where is the statement from Moss' people that says this was the orginal deal the Pats offered?And then, as pointed out by RW... its clear that Moss tested the market. You can not fight that.

there comes a point in time, when "youre an idiot" applies. Im not gonna say this is one of those times. but Im just sayin'.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Once again, here's the LINK, that I provided in the 33rd post that apparently you chose to ignore, stating in plain english by that league's premier source of information, Adam Schefter, that the contract that Randy Moss signed was the contract New England had in place with him the entire time. You'll find it at the about 2 minute mark of the video. The statement he makes in this video is based on actual FACTS, and it trumps whatever he, or Clayton, or Mort or anyone else out there playing the guessing game was feeding their bosses on the Randy Moss story prior to the actual contract being signed. And whatever fun Randy Moss was having with other teams or the media, was just that, fun. To anyone's knowledge, he didnt ask for anything more than the original deal. And New England didnt give him anything more than the original deal. So, no, the guy didnt squeeze his team for any extra bucks. He'll play there for 3 years and get whatever he has coming to him. And the idiotic contracts of Javon Walker and Larry Fitzgerald, and Bernard Berrian to a degree, just remind us why some teams in this league win, and some teams just dont.

Come on guys... yeah; Adam Schefter claimed that this was the same deal... but that could be an attempt to save his skin after the last weekend. And if posters are going to request Statements from Moss and/or the Pats about the Reports I toss up from the following weekend; then I'm going to do the same on this. Where is the statement from Moss' people that says this was the orginal deal the Pats offered?And then, as pointed out by RW... its clear that Moss tested the market. You can not fight that.

there comes a point in time, when "youre an idiot" applies. Im not gonna say this is one of those times. but Im just sayin'.

Even I would have given up arguing with this guy a while ago, but I admire your perserverance!

 

[KellysHeroes]

Once again, here's the LINK, that I provided in the 33rd post that apparently you chose to ignore, stating in plain english by that league's premier source of information, Adam Schefter, that the contract that Randy Moss signed was the contract New England had in place with him the entire time. You'll find it at the about 2 minute mark of the video. The statement he makes in this video is based on actual FACTS, and it trumps whatever he, or Clayton, or Mort or anyone else out there playing the guessing game was feeding their bosses on the Randy Moss story prior to the actual contract being signed. And whatever fun Randy Moss was having with other teams or the media, was just that, fun. To anyone's knowledge, he didnt ask for anything more than the original deal. And New England didnt give him anything more than the original deal. So, no, the guy didnt squeeze his team for any extra bucks. He'll play there for 3 years and get whatever he has coming to him. And the idiotic contracts of Javon Walker and Larry Fitzgerald, and Bernard Berrian to a degree, just remind us why some teams in this league win, and some teams just dont.

Come on guys... yeah; Adam Schefter claimed that this was the same deal... but that could be an attempt to save his skin after the last weekend. And if posters are going to request Statements from Moss and/or the Pats about the Reports I toss up from the following weekend; then I'm going to do the same on this. Where is the statement from Moss' people that says this was the orginal deal the Pats offered?And then, as pointed out by RW... its clear that Moss tested the market. You can not fight that.

there comes a point in time, when "youre an idiot" applies. Im not gonna say this is one of those times. but Im just sayin'.

Is that it then? Your done.

 

[Routilla]

 

[Boston]

Here's a pretty good article about the Moss situation from the Boston Herald:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...&position=2

Moss shuns late grab

Receiver comfortable with Patriots

By Karen Guregian

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 - Updated 7h ago

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The Eagles made a valiant 11th-hour push to try to lure Randy Moss away from the Patriots [team stats]. There also were a few other teams involved, trying to convince the receiver to give them a shot.

Moss listened, but in the end, no matter how impressively Eagles coach Andy Reid made his pitch or how much money the Eagles piled on, it didn’t matter.

According to Tim DiPiero, who represents Moss, there was no real bidding war. The game’s single-season record-holder for touchdown receptions wasn’t trying to pit the Patriots against anyone else.

His heart always was in New England. The purpose all along was to try to work out a suitable deal, something Moss knew would have to be in the hometown discount category, but also something he could live with as the game’s premier receiver.

While the three-year, $27 million contract, with $15 million guaranteed and a $12 million signing bonus, isn’t overwhelming by other standards set around the league, it works for both parties.

Bottom line, it was good enough to satisfy Moss and also keep the Pats viable in terms of being able to sign other players.

“My indicating he could have taken more was in no way saying anything negative about the Patriots at all. It was just simply trying to explain, I think in Randy’s mind, there’s value in things other than money,” DiPiero said yesterday. “In this crazy business, players and agents are just measured by how much they can get. That shouldn’t always be the consideration. The more you get, the better you look. But that just wasn’t where Randy was. If he saw a good deal, he was going to take it, and we did just that.”

Out of respect for the negotiations and the personnel involved, DiPiero did not want to go into details about which teams called, who was making the hard sell, or exactly how much money Moss turned down.

He claimed the nature of the free agent process brought people to them, not vice versa, especially when time went on and a deal with the Pats did not come to pass. While he spoke in generalities, the point was clear.

“We didn’t go into a bidding war, and some teams were pretty aggressive in wanting him,” DiPiero said. “When you’re seeing some of those offers, it’s human nature to look at them. It’s a natural thing. I think he just opted to do what was in his best interest. Once it became apparent to some other teams a deal wasn’t final, then we got some calls. But as I said, we didn’t get into a bidding war because he was trying to see if he could work things out with the Patriots.”

The Eagles situation came to light late Monday afternoon, after it became clear Moss was in the process of finalizing the deal with the Pats. Word out of Philly was that Moss’ relationship with Tom Brady [stats] played a significant role in his wanting to remain a Patriot, along with his comfort level in New England and staying with a team that had a chance of winning.

“He did what he wanted to do, which was return to his teammates and the organziation,” DiPiero said. “I think obviously, (all of those factors) were important, because if it was just about money, he’d be somewhere else.”

As negotiations dragged on, the Pats started to take some heat for not applying the franchise tag on Moss. That would have protected them from having the 31-year-old superstar wideout potentially leave if they couldn’t hammer out a long-term deal.

DiPiero, however, indicated not having the tag applied was beneficial to the Pats in getting the deal done.

“I just think one of the things that’s been established between Randy and the coaching staff is a great respect for each other. There’s a lot of honesty and openness,” he said. “And, I think that was something that showed him they respected him, and wanted him, and were willing to take a risk in hopes of working out a deal. You can talk to (the Patriots) about why they didn’t franchise him. But obviously, we took it as a good faith gesture.”

DiPiero didn’t want to say if, or how much, the Pats moved off the offer that was on the table last Friday.

“It was kind of a crazy, harried process,” DiPiero said. “I think he’s glad it’s over and happy to still be with the Patriots [team stats]. I’m happy for him and for the Patriots. I think it’s a good match for both.”

 

[Jason Wood]

Patriots fans have to be feeling all kinds of giddy about this contract; particularly when you consider Javon Walker just got the same money over the first three years of his deal with Oakland, AND got $1mm more guaranteed than Randy. Snicker, snicker...Al Davis is hilarious, isn't he?

 

[sib]

Here's a pretty good article about the Moss situation from the Boston Herald:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...&position=2

Moss shuns late grab

Receiver comfortable with Patriots

By Karen Guregian

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 - Updated 7h ago

+ Recent Articles Boston Herald General Sports Reporter and Columnist

E-mail Printable (1) Comments Text size Share (5) Rate

The Eagles made a valiant 11th-hour push to try to lure Randy Moss away from the Patriots [team stats]. There also were a few other teams involved, trying to convince the receiver to give them a shot.

Moss listened, but in the end, no matter how impressively Eagles coach Andy Reid made his pitch or how much money the Eagles piled on, it didn’t matter.

According to Tim DiPiero, who represents Moss, there was no real bidding war. The game’s single-season record-holder for touchdown receptions wasn’t trying to pit the Patriots against anyone else.

His heart always was in New England. The purpose all along was to try to work out a suitable deal, something Moss knew would have to be in the hometown discount category, but also something he could live with as the game’s premier receiver.

While the three-year, $27 million contract, with $15 million guaranteed and a $12 million signing bonus, isn’t overwhelming by other standards set around the league, it works for both parties.

Bottom line, it was good enough to satisfy Moss and also keep the Pats viable in terms of being able to sign other players.

“My indicating he could have taken more was in no way saying anything negative about the Patriots at all. It was just simply trying to explain, I think in Randy’s mind, there’s value in things other than money,” DiPiero said yesterday. “In this crazy business, players and agents are just measured by how much they can get. That shouldn’t always be the consideration. The more you get, the better you look. But that just wasn’t where Randy was. If he saw a good deal, he was going to take it, and we did just that.”

Out of respect for the negotiations and the personnel involved, DiPiero did not want to go into details about which teams called, who was making the hard sell, or exactly how much money Moss turned down.

He claimed the nature of the free agent process brought people to them, not vice versa, especially when time went on and a deal with the Pats did not come to pass. While he spoke in generalities, the point was clear.

“We didn’t go into a bidding war, and some teams were pretty aggressive in wanting him,” DiPiero said. “When you’re seeing some of those offers, it’s human nature to look at them. It’s a natural thing. I think he just opted to do what was in his best interest. Once it became apparent to some other teams a deal wasn’t final, then we got some calls. But as I said, we didn’t get into a bidding war because he was trying to see if he could work things out with the Patriots.”

The Eagles situation came to light late Monday afternoon, after it became clear Moss was in the process of finalizing the deal with the Pats. Word out of Philly was that Moss’ relationship with Tom Brady [stats] played a significant role in his wanting to remain a Patriot, along with his comfort level in New England and staying with a team that had a chance of winning.

“He did what he wanted to do, which was return to his teammates and the organziation,” DiPiero said. “I think obviously, (all of those factors) were important, because if it was just about money, he’d be somewhere else.”

As negotiations dragged on, the Pats started to take some heat for not applying the franchise tag on Moss. That would have protected them from having the 31-year-old superstar wideout potentially leave if they couldn’t hammer out a long-term deal.

DiPiero, however, indicated not having the tag applied was beneficial to the Pats in getting the deal done.

“I just think one of the things that’s been established between Randy and the coaching staff is a great respect for each other. There’s a lot of honesty and openness,” he said. “And, I think that was something that showed him they respected him, and wanted him, and were willing to take a risk in hopes of working out a deal. You can talk to (the Patriots) about why they didn’t franchise him. But obviously, we took it as a good faith gesture.”

DiPiero didn’t want to say if, or how much, the Pats moved off the offer that was on the table last Friday.

“It was kind of a crazy, harried process,” DiPiero said. “I think he’s glad it’s over and happy to still be with the Patriots [team stats]. I’m happy for him and for the Patriots. I think it’s a good match for both.”

To me I think this is a pretty realistic summary of what happened if you read between the lines a bit:-Why didn't NE franchise him? It was probably two-fold..they didn't want to annoy the guy and they must have had some indication that NE was where he wanted to stay.

-The whole "Moss is signed, sealed, and delivered" before free agency turned out to be inaccurate, but there is no doubt in my mind that NE had a deal on the table prior to the start of free agency that Moss found agreeable. But maybe his agent, his family, or Moss himself felt "This is the first time you're a free agent..it's smart to at least see and hear what's out there"

Should we kill the guy for that? That's just a smart business decision. And I'm sure that after hearing some proposals and seeing the $$ Berrian got, Moss asked for a slight adjustment. And I say a slight adjustment because if it was really a big deal, I doubt the deal would've been done on Monday afternoon.

-A lot has been made about the $$ Moss is making on this deal. Javon Walker just got a 6 year 55 million contract with 16 million guaranteed making 27 million in his first 3 years..that's better than Moss's deal. Randy Moss >>>>> Javon Walker so I would say Moss's deal was a fair one.

-Randy Moss 2007 - 93 catches, 1493 yds, 23 TDs. Moss's average for the past 10 seasons (including the 2 subpar years in Oak) is 77 catches, 1219 yds, and 12.4 TDs. With that track record and his most recent performance he deserves to be among the highest paid WR in the game and you cannot fault him for that.

 

[mozzy84]

Patriots fans have to be feeling all kinds of giddy about this contract; particularly when you consider Javon Walker just got the same money over the first three years of his deal with Oakland, AND got $1mm more guaranteed than Randy. Snicker, snicker...Al Davis is hilarious, isn't he?

they should be

 

[Road Warriors]

Patriots fans have to be feeling all kinds of giddy about this contract; particularly when you consider Javon Walker just got the same money over the first three years of his deal with Oakland, AND got $1mm more guaranteed than Randy. Snicker, snicker...Al Davis is hilarious, isn't he?

Certainly not going to speak for all of them, but this one is!