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Movie Director Rankings: Stanley Kubrick (1 Viewer)
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El Floppo
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HItchcock was another that portrayed women in a distinct way, typically not heroic (femme fatales, #####y mommy figures, treacherous, etc). I'm sure the misogynist label has gotten attached to him as well.
and it's not that these guys don't have any women in their movies- it's how they portray the women that are in their movies.
and for me, doesn't diminish their genius- but is definitely worth discussing.
eta: I would oppose those guys to somebody like Lars von Trier who obviously has some kind of issue with women, even if all his movies star women. his take on women (from portrayal to repeated woman-in-scandalous-ruin story-lines) impacts every movie/tv-show of his I"ve seen... distracting and diminishing the rest of what's going.
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Bob Magaw
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Interesting point about Hitchcock (my third favorite director*), hadn't thought of that.
Lady Vanishes (?), the teenage niece in Shadow of a Doubt, Ingrid Bergman in Spellbound and Notorious, Grace Kelly in Rear Window and Eva Marie Saint in North By Northwest portray varying forms of strong female leads, imo. There are plenty of counter-examples, too, as you noted.
Hitchcock filmography (agree certainly nothing to detract one iota from his genius)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock_filmography
* My tied first with Kubrick director Kurosawa also may not have portrayed a lot of heroic female archetype roles, they tended to be in the background, or if they were shifted to the foreground, they were duplicitous troublemakers, like in Throne Of Blood and Ran (but than they were Shakespeare adaptations, so blame it on the Bard - but not the Tibetan bardo realms
). The one exception that roars off the page after a cursory glance at the below list is the heroine in the atypical but consciously lighter in tone and fun Hidden Fortress (Lucas admitted this was somewhat of an influence on Star Wars, compare the two bickering character actors returning from war in a wasted landscape that begins the films with the two robots in Star Wars).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creative_works_by_Akira_Kurosawa
Lady Vanishes (?), the teenage niece in Shadow of a Doubt, Ingrid Bergman in Spellbound and Notorious, Grace Kelly in Rear Window and Eva Marie Saint in North By Northwest portray varying forms of strong female leads, imo. There are plenty of counter-examples, too, as you noted.
Hitchcock filmography (agree certainly nothing to detract one iota from his genius)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock_filmography
* My tied first with Kubrick director Kurosawa also may not have portrayed a lot of heroic female archetype roles, they tended to be in the background, or if they were shifted to the foreground, they were duplicitous troublemakers, like in Throne Of Blood and Ran (but than they were Shakespeare adaptations, so blame it on the Bard - but not the Tibetan bardo realms
). The one exception that roars off the page after a cursory glance at the below list is the heroine in the atypical but consciously lighter in tone and fun Hidden Fortress (Lucas admitted this was somewhat of an influence on Star Wars, compare the two bickering character actors returning from war in a wasted landscape that begins the films with the two robots in Star Wars).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creative_works_by_Akira_Kurosawa
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KarmaPolice
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Bob Magaw
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Making of Dr. Strangelove doc (VIDEO 45+ minutes)
Fear And Desire - restored, full length version of Kubrick's first feature (1 hour approx., with 5 minute interview preface)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJzQvjhndw
* Moving these to page three (A Life In Pictures probably remains the best single doc).
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Bob Magaw
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This is traditionally Oscar month on the TCM channel.
Next Tues (2-9-16), they are showing Barry Lyndon and Clockwork Orange back-to-back, starting at 10:15 PM PST, check local times and listings. Also, Lolita the following Sat 10:30 PM. I was just about to rewatch Barry Lyndon, and did rewatch Clockwork Orange and Lolita recently.
AFI Top 100 Films list
#15 - 2001
#39 - Dr. Strangelove
#70 - Clockwork Orange
#82 - Spartacus (again, a movie Kubrick has largely disowned and washed his hands of, made the list )
* Hitchcock
#9 - Vertigo
#14 - Psycho
#48 - Rear Window
#55 - North By Northwest
Next Tues (2-9-16), they are showing Barry Lyndon and Clockwork Orange back-to-back, starting at 10:15 PM PST, check local times and listings. Also, Lolita the following Sat 10:30 PM. I was just about to rewatch Barry Lyndon, and did rewatch Clockwork Orange and Lolita recently.
AFI Top 100 Films list
#15 - 2001
#39 - Dr. Strangelove
#70 - Clockwork Orange
#82 - Spartacus (again, a movie Kubrick has largely disowned and washed his hands of, made the list
)* Hitchcock
#9 - Vertigo
#14 - Psycho
#48 - Rear Window
#55 - North By Northwest
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