My 1st Mock (1 Viewer)

[Blackjacks]

1) Oakland Raiders- J. Russell

In my opinion this is a no brainer unless the Raiders trade Randy Moss before draft day and then the pick will go Calvin Johnson but as things look right now I think Russell is the guy.

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

ATL loves being able to get this home grown kid. Petrino is gonna give Vick the weapons to see how good he can really be. ATL gets the best prospect in this draft thanks to the trade for Schaub. If Johnson could make Reggie Ball look good in college he is going to make Vick look great.

3) Cle Browns- Joe Thomas

All I hear is Brady Quinn and Peterson here, sorry I'm not buying it. Cleveland has been looking to get a great LT since they got back in the league and here is their chance. I think they would be foolish to turn it down. Romeo has to win now and Brady isn't going to help that. I'm not saying that Frye is the answer but this team has some good parts and with the line secure I think they can make a run to the playoffs this year. I really liked what I saw out of the Browns last year and with this addition I think they are on the right track.

4) TB Bucs- J. Anderson

This pick is really hard and I think it is between Anderson or Adams but I think TB looks in Anderson's direction. I really think TB will try to trade out of this pick whether it be up or down. I just think ATL has more amo to move up to get Calvin and there isn't a player except Peterson to move up and get for other teams. Again I don't like the pick but this is where I'll guess.

5) Arizona Cardinals- Levi Brown

Talk about a reach but if Thomas isn't there I can't see Ariz. going anywhere except for the O-Line and I can't see them trading down fearing that Det., Miami or Houston would be all over him. I did like Levi this year when I saw him. He is very good in the running game which is where they need him. I really like Arizona to make a move in the west this year and that is coming from a Rams fan.

6) Washington Redskins- Amobi Okoye

The Skins' need help against the run and this young stud can help them for the next decade. A 19 year old phenom that will help open things up for the skins' big hitters.

7) Minn Vikings- Brady Quinn

If the Viked want to stay with Tavarus Jackson I say good luck. I think Brady could run Childress's system to perfection. Short passes and mobile that is an offense that was made for him plus he is very marketable which is good for Ziggy.

8) Det Lions (From ATL) Gaines Adams

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would the Lions look like genius's if this happend. I think they are prepared right now to take him @ #2. If they could move down 6 spots and save all that $$$$$$ plus pick up (2) #2's in the process I think Millen might actually earn his paycheck. Somehow I think if this were avilable I think that Millen would screw it up. How this man still has a job I don't get.

9) NYG (from Miami for a 2nd and fourth) A. Peterson

At the room erupts in New York. I really think if available the Giants make a move for a rb. It might be in the 2nd instead of the first but if they have a chance to get Peterson they'll jump all over it.

10) Houston Texans- Laron Landry

Slowly the Texans are building a nice young defense. This kid is the player they need in their secondary. You put him with Duanta and Ryans and Williams and you have a future...atleast on that side of the ball.

11) S.F. 49er's- Adam Carriker

A tough DE that will fit perfect in Nolan's defense.

12) SD (compensation for M. Turner from Buffalo) Reggie Nelson

I think Turner is gone to Buffalo and SD picks up a great young player to upgrade their secondary alittle.

13) STL Rams- Patrick Willis

With Witherspoon, Draft and Willis the Rams would have one of the better LB'ing corps in NFL.....okay homer alittle. Maybe not one of the best but a huge upgrade to what we have had for the last couple years.

14) Carolina Panthers- G. Olsen

They need a safety valve for Delhomme (or Carr) when he is getting pressure. The defense is set with skill and power they need another playmaker on offense and Olsen would add a big upgrade at the TE position.

15) Pitt Steelers- Alan Branch

Branch takes up alot of space and is known as a underachiever but has top ten talent. The Steelers can make talent ooze out of anyone.

16) GB Packers- M. Lynch

As long as Packers don't pick anyone up before the draft this is a slam dunk. Lynch will bring power and his slashing ability tot he Packers offense. This year's rookie of the year.

17) Jax Jags- L. Timmons

Just helps that defense get better. Extreme talent goes to an already stacked D.

18) Cinncy Bengles- L. Hall

This pick is just stuck in my head. The talks of D. O'Neal getting trading make this pick a given as long as he is still oon the board. If Buffalo would have still had their pick he probably would have gone there.

19) Tenn Titans- D. Jarrett

Vince Young let me introduce you to Mr. Jarrett. You 2 are going to be good friends for a long time. Norm Chow missed on his guy last year but this year he might get lucky with his stud from back in the days.

20) Miami (from NYG) T. Ginn Jr.

Some interesting pieces get answered here with this pick. Ginn is a superb talent with extreme speed. He can start as the return guy right away since Welker is gone and also fill the void in the passing game the Dolphins lost with the losses of Welker and McMichael.

21) Denver Broncos- J. Moss

They have lost T. Pryce and C. Brown in the last 2 years. Got to get some new blood on that DL. Moss made himself some $$$$$$ last January in the championship game. He has alot of talent that Denver could definetly use.

22) Dallas Cowboys- D. Revis

The boys need some help on defense and especially in the secondary. Revis might be a reach but has had some great showings and his stock had been on the rise lately.

23) KC Chiefs- D. Bowe

One of these year the Chiefs will actually draft a wr. I'm not a big fan of Bowe and I think he is very overrated but I do think he will go in the first round and the Chiefs look like a great destination.

24) NE Patroits- A. Ross

Protection if the lose Samuels. I've liked Ross for awhile (big Texas fan) and he has finally starting rising in most mocks. I think NE is getting a nice player that will fit in nicely with their team concept.

25) NY Jets- Anthony Spencer

Nice player that fits nicely on that line.

26) Philly Eagles- Justin Blalock

It just always seems that the Eagles are building their line and this big haus could give them alot of versitility. You could put him on the other side of Andrews and "Big John" and have as solis of a line as anyone in the NFL.

27) NO Saints- Robert Meachem

Nice wr going to a great offense. I think Meachem would be the #2 wr picked in rookie dynasty leagues if he ended up there.

28) NE Pats- Brian Leonard

1) Protection for Maroney

2) Can play fullback

3) Can catch the ball good

4) Very intellegent

5) Just seems like a Patroit

29) Balt Ravens- Brandon Meriweather

Him and Ed Reed would just be sick in the secondary.

30) Buff (from SD)- Brandon Siler

Buffalo tries to replace Fletcher. I really don't like where this team is heading. I think the game has passed Marv.

31) Chicago- Justin Harrell

Insurance for Tank. The Bears defense works with power upfront clearing the way for those great LB's. Harrell would be a nice option here for the NFC champs.

32) Indy Colts- Michael Griffin

Lose Doss and draft his replacement. Griffin is a nice player who will fit in the Dungy defense nicely. I think he'll go earlier but couldn't find a great fit. If Samuels doesn't get traded I could see NE taking Griffin earlier to replace the aging Harrison but in this scenario I see him ending up here.

Please be gentle................................................

 

[Burning Sensation]

The last time the Bills traded a high first round pick for a backup player who had a couple good games, they ended up with Rob Johnson and the Jags drafted Fred Taylor with the pick.

 

[David Yudkin]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

 

[Blackjacks]

The last time the Bills traded a high first round pick for a backup player who had a couple good games, they ended up with Rob Johnson and the Jags drafted Fred Taylor with the pick.

Just moving back in the 1st round

 

[Blackjacks]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

 

[Burning Sensation]

The last time the Bills traded a high first round pick for a backup player who had a couple good games, they ended up with Rob Johnson and the Jags drafted Fred Taylor with the pick.

Just moving back in the 1st round

I would much rather see them move up for AP.

 

[RC94]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

 

[Blackjacks]

The last time the Bills traded a high first round pick for a backup player who had a couple good games, they ended up with Rob Johnson and the Jags drafted Fred Taylor with the pick.

Just moving back in the 1st round

I would much rather see them move up for AP.

Filling 2 needs would be nice as well.

 

[Blackjacks]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

 

[Gottabesweet]

The game has passed Marv?

He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

 

[Da Flyin Lion]

I love the Lions/ATL trade. That would be great if they could trade down and still get Adams. I think that's who Marinelli has wanted all along.

Nice mock.

 

[Blackjacks]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

 

[RC94]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

If he falls to them then I can see the Giants taking him, but no way do they give up all of that to move up to get him.

 

[Burning Sensation]

The last time the Bills traded a high first round pick for a backup player who had a couple good games, they ended up with Rob Johnson and the Jags drafted Fred Taylor with the pick.

Just moving back in the 1st round

I would much rather see them move up for AP.

Filling 2 needs would be nice as well.

Filling the biggest need with one of the top RB's to come out of the draft in a while instead of a guy who was a 5th round pick a few years back seems like a better option.

 

[Blackjacks]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

If he falls to them then I can see the Giants taking him, but no way do they give up all of that to move up to get him.

Well he isn't going to fall to them with their original pick.Rueben and Brandon........nough said

 

[David Yudkin]

IMO, if the Giants were going to take a first round RB then they would not have gone out and got Droughns. So trading up equally seems unlikely. And like with the #2 pick, the point values don't come close to adding up. It takes a lot to move up in to the Top 10. For example, it would probably take both of the Patriots first round picks to get up to the #9 pick.

 

[RC94]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

If he falls to them then I can see the Giants taking him, but no way do they give up all of that to move up to get him.

Well he isn't going to fall to them with their original pick.Rueben and Brandon........nough said

I know he isn't going to fall to them, which is why they aren't going to have AD on their roster.

 

[Blackjacks]

IMO, if the Giants were going to take a first round RB then they would not have gone out and got Droughns. So trading up equally seems unlikely. And like with the #2 pick, the point values don't come close to adding up. It takes a lot to move up in to the Top 10. For example, it would probably take both of the Patriots first round picks to get up to the #9 pick.

I'm not trying to sound like a smart ### here but I don't think Droughens is a long term answer by any means. I know that isn't what your saying but if they could trade up and snag Peterson I'm thinking they would regardless if they just pick up "SOME GUY" named Droughens.

 

[David Yudkin]

IMO, if the Giants were going to take a first round RB then they would not have gone out and got Droughns. So trading up equally seems unlikely. And like with the #2 pick, the point values don't come close to adding up. It takes a lot to move up in to the Top 10. For example, it would probably take both of the Patriots first round picks to get up to the #9 pick.

I'm not trying to sound like a smart ### here but I don't think Droughens is a long term answer by any means. I know that isn't what your saying but if they could trade up and snag Peterson I'm thinking they would regardless if they just pick up "SOME GUY" named Droughens.

I'm not saying that ADP is not an upgrade over Droughns (and I think Jacobs is going to be the starter not Droughns). All I'm saying is that the Giants have other needs and it will likely be too costly (draft pick wise) to move up to get him. They may look at and draft another RB to compliment what they have, but I think it is unlikely that they would take the steps necessary to make a move for ADP.

 

[Blackjacks]

IMO, if the Giants were going to take a first round RB then they would not have gone out and got Droughns. So trading up equally seems unlikely. And like with the #2 pick, the point values don't come close to adding up. It takes a lot to move up in to the Top 10. For example, it would probably take both of the Patriots first round picks to get up to the #9 pick.

I'm not trying to sound like a smart ### here but I don't think Droughens is a long term answer by any means. I know that isn't what your saying but if they could trade up and snag Peterson I'm thinking they would regardless if they just pick up "SOME GUY" named Droughens.

I'm not saying that ADP is not an upgrade over Droughns (and I think Jacobs is going to be the starter not Droughns). All I'm saying is that the Giants have other needs and it will likely be too costly (draft pick wise) to move up to get him. They may look at and draft another RB to compliment what they have, but I think it is unlikely that they would take the steps necessary to make a move for ADP.

I can agree with that outlook. I could see a player like Kenny Irons with the #51 pick or maybe even in the 3rd. I really just don't like either RB's the G-Men have right now. I know alot of people are high on Jacobs, I'm just not. They need someone with some versitility.9) NYG (from Miami for a 2nd and fourth) A. Peterson

At the room erupts in New York. I really think if available the Giants make a move for a rb. It might be in the 2nd instead of the first but if they have a chance to get Peterson they'll jump all over it.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

 

[Blackjacks]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

What good would you say he has done? I loved Marv at one time but I thought he reached horribly last year and 3 of his best players this offseason.You tell me what he has done good lately and I'll listen.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

What good would you say he has done? I loved Marv at one time but I thought he reached horribly last year and 3 of his best players this offseason.You tell me what he has done good lately and I'll listen.

I'll just list a few of the genius things he has done. And in no particular order:1. The 2006 Rookie Draft2. Getting rid of McGahee3. Getting rid of Spikes4. Letting Clements walk5. Letting Fletcher walkNow, that's just a few. The list of genius things Marv Levy does will only continue to grow as the years go by.

 

[djcolts]

Colts need a safety or two for depth, but not a starter. Antoine Bethea replaced Doss on his own, and Doss's injury had nothing to do with it. I'd be surprised if the Colts took a S (or a CB) in round 1.

I think the Colts will take the best defensive front 7 player or WR on their board at pick #32.

 

[On The Rocks]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

If he falls to them then I can see the Giants taking him, but no way do they give up all of that to move up to get him.

Peterson won't fall all the way to the Giants where they sit right now and I don't think they have recovered from giving up so much for Eli Manning to make a trade up like this again at this time.Just my unqualified opinion.Oh yeah....and the comments about the game passing by Marv Levy are silly.

 

[Obie Wan]

30) Buff (from SD)- Brandon SilerBuffalo tries to replace Fletcher. I really don't like where this team is heading. I think the game has passed Marv.

With stupid ### trades like you propose no wonder you don't like where the Bills are heading.There is no way that the Bills move out of the 12 spot with Willis available.He is an elite player who could provide Urlacher like impact to the cover-2.Turner is worth no more than a 3rd round pick.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

1) Oakland Raiders- J. Russell In my opinion this is a no brainer unless the Raiders trade Randy Moss before draft day and then the pick will go Calvin Johnson but as things look right now I think Russell is the guy.

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. The Raiders were terrible last year with Moss. He doesn't want to be there. He doesn't help them. I don't think their selection here has anything to do with if Moss is on the team or not. They may well pick Russell, but they aren't going to not pick Russell if they have traded Moss, Similarly, they might take Johnson, and if they do- it will because he is the best player on their board.

 

[Blackjacks]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

What good would you say he has done? I loved Marv at one time but I thought he reached horribly last year and 3 of his best players this offseason.You tell me what he has done good lately and I'll listen.

I'll just list a few of the genius things he has done. And in no particular order:1. The 2006 Rookie Draft2. Getting rid of McGahee3. Getting rid of Spikes4. Letting Clements walk5. Letting Fletcher walkNow, that's just a few. The list of genius things Marv Levy does will only continue to grow as the years go by.

My opinion here but I thoguht he reached "big time" on Whitner as a top ten pick. He is a nice player but he could have traded down and collected some picks and gotten him alittle later.Except Lee Evans you are stating that letting go of your top 4 players is a good thing. If you say htey had attitudes then welcome to the NFL. You can't let your top 4 players go and replace them with nothing. I call that a horrible offseason. You might not but I do.

 

[Blackjacks]

Colts need a safety or two for depth, but not a starter. Antoine Bethea replaced Doss on his own, and Doss's injury had nothing to do with it. I'd be surprised if the Colts took a S (or a CB) in round 1. I think the Colts will take the best defensive front 7 player or WR on their board at pick #32.

I as going to have them taking Harrell but Chicago took right in front of them. I would think if Griifin was there the value would be something they would have to look at.

 

[Capella]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

 

[Blackjacks]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

If he falls to them then I can see the Giants taking him, but no way do they give up all of that to move up to get him.

Peterson won't fall all the way to the Giants where they sit right now and I don't think they have recovered from giving up so much for Eli Manning to make a trade up like this again at this time.Just my unqualified opinion.Oh yeah....and the comments about the game passing by Marv Levy are silly.

The Eli experience probably still does leave a bad taste in some Giants mouth but it's just my opinnion that they would pull this trigger if available.Let me know your thoughts on why Marv has done his job ggod since coming back the NFL.

 

[Blackjacks]

1) Oakland Raiders- J. Russell In my opinion this is a no brainer unless the Raiders trade Randy Moss before draft day and then the pick will go Calvin Johnson but as things look right now I think Russell is the guy.

I don't understand this line of thinking at all. The Raiders were terrible last year with Moss. He doesn't want to be there. He doesn't help them. I don't think their selection here has anything to do with if Moss is on the team or not. They may well pick Russell, but they aren't going to not pick Russell if they have traded Moss, Similarly, they might take Johnson, and if they do- it will because he is the best player on their board.

I thik it would have to do with too much $ tied up in one position as well as crowding the position. If Moss did go to GB, which was strongly rumored for A. Rodgers and a pick , than I think Johnson would be the pick here. In my opinion as long as Moss is there Calvin won't be.

 

[Blackjacks]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

Good input. Do you think TB would give up both #2's to move up to the #2 overall.

 

[vandelyons]

16) GB Packers- M. Lynch

As long as Packers don't pick anyone up before the draft this is a slam dunk. Lynch will bring power and his slashing ability tot he Packers offense. This year's rookie of the year.

Lynch is FAR from a slam dunk here. Word in Wisconsin is that the Packers' brass is seriously considering sticking with Morency and maybe a second or third round RB.

The Packers are EXTREMELY thin at DB and WR. Look for Hall, Revis, or Bowe in the first round. Then a RB to compete with Morency and Heron in the second or third - Pittman, Jackson, etc.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

What good would you say he has done? I loved Marv at one time but I thought he reached horribly last year and 3 of his best players this offseason.You tell me what he has done good lately and I'll listen.

I'll just list a few of the genius things he has done. And in no particular order:1. The 2006 Rookie Draft2. Getting rid of McGahee3. Getting rid of Spikes4. Letting Clements walk5. Letting Fletcher walkNow, that's just a few. The list of genius things Marv Levy does will only continue to grow as the years go by.

My opinion here but I thoguht he reached "big time" on Whitner as a top ten pick. He is a nice player but he could have traded down and collected some picks and gotten him alittle later.Except Lee Evans you are stating that letting go of your top 4 players is a good thing. If you say htey had attitudes then welcome to the NFL. You can't let your top 4 players go and replace them with nothing. I call that a horrible offseason. You might not but I do.

Well the general consensus is that Marv had a great draft. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way. I felt the same way you did when he reached for Whitner and then traded up to get McCargo. But when all was said and done the draft turned out to be one of the best in the league. As far as getting rid of bad seeds on the team it goes with his whole philosophy. Besides, Willis was on the last year of his contract and he was already starting to threaten a hold-out unless he got top dollar (Rosenhouse is his agent). So I thought it was great that Marv got what he did for him instead of just listening to him complain (or sit out) and then watching him walk away on his own. I'm not sure if we got all that we could have for Spikes, but maybe that just goes to show how much his game has suffered from the injury and his age. He was not the same TKO since his injury. Not even close. And you should know the Bills were not going to match the prices that Fletcher and Clements got in FA. Fletcher is not even close to what he was either. All his tackles came 5 yards down field. He was a great leader and great example on and off the field, but he was not worth what the Redskins paid him. And the Bills do not need a shut down corner like Clements in the cover-2 they run. So to pay that HUGE contract for a CB in thier system just doesn't make sense. So I think Marv is actually doing a great job so far. We'll see more after this year but if the Bills take another step forward instead of backwards then Marv should get his credit. I'm sure people will criticize his draft again untill they see the results. But so far the 2nd Marv Era is going pretty well.

 

[Blackjacks]

The game has passed Marv?He had a great draft last year. Has to clear out the mess to run the team the way he wants to. High character players, young, and ready to fit our system.

Agree to disagreeHe should check into the home while he can still sign his own name

Wow, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

What good would you say he has done? I loved Marv at one time but I thought he reached horribly last year and 3 of his best players this offseason.You tell me what he has done good lately and I'll listen.

I'll just list a few of the genius things he has done. And in no particular order:1. The 2006 Rookie Draft2. Getting rid of McGahee3. Getting rid of Spikes4. Letting Clements walk5. Letting Fletcher walkNow, that's just a few. The list of genius things Marv Levy does will only continue to grow as the years go by.

My opinion here but I thoguht he reached "big time" on Whitner as a top ten pick. He is a nice player but he could have traded down and collected some picks and gotten him alittle later.Except Lee Evans you are stating that letting go of your top 4 players is a good thing. If you say htey had attitudes then welcome to the NFL. You can't let your top 4 players go and replace them with nothing. I call that a horrible offseason. You might not but I do.

Well the general consensus is that Marv had a great draft. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way. I felt the same way you did when he reached for Whitner and then traded up to get McCargo. But when all was said and done the draft turned out to be one of the best in the league. As far as getting rid of bad seeds on the team it goes with his whole philosophy. Besides, Willis was on the last year of his contract and he was already starting to threaten a hold-out unless he got top dollar (Rosenhouse is his agent). So I thought it was great that Marv got what he did for him instead of just listening to him complain (or sit out) and then watching him walk away on his own. I'm not sure if we got all that we could have for Spikes, but maybe that just goes to show how much his game has suffered from the injury and his age. He was not the same TKO since his injury. Not even close. And you should know the Bills were not going to match the prices that Fletcher and Clements got in FA. Fletcher is not even close to what he was either. All his tackles came 5 yards down field. He was a great leader and great example on and off the field, but he was not worth what the Redskins paid him. And the Bills do not need a shut down corner like Clements in the cover-2 they run. So to pay that HUGE contract for a CB in thier system just doesn't make sense. So I think Marv is actually doing a great job so far. We'll see more after this year but if the Bills take another step forward instead of backwards then Marv should get his credit. I'm sure people will criticize his draft again untill they see the results. But so far the 2nd Marv Era is going pretty well.

That's great feedback but with a minus you need a plus. Your statements are good here and I agree you have to get rid of players sometimes but when you lose the kind of talent they lost and you don't replave it with anything you need to make your move and get talent in your clubhouse.

 

[Capella]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

Good input. Do you think TB would give up both #2's to move up to the #2 overall.

yea I do

 

[On The Rocks]

The Giants won't be making a trade like that. They need a CB, LT, LB and DT more than a RB. In the case of CB they need 2 new starters, not just one. Too many very pressing needs to make a deal like that for Peterson, no matter how good Peterson can be.

While I don't disagree with you about the needs your team has I don't see them turninig down AP.

If he falls to them then I can see the Giants taking him, but no way do they give up all of that to move up to get him.

Peterson won't fall all the way to the Giants where they sit right now and I don't think they have recovered from giving up so much for Eli Manning to make a trade up like this again at this time.Just my unqualified opinion.Oh yeah....and the comments about the game passing by Marv Levy are silly.

The Eli experience probably still does leave a bad taste in some Giants mouth but it's just my opinnion that they would pull this trigger if available.Let me know your thoughts on why Marv has done his job ggod since coming back the NFL.

I think you give too much or too little credit to Marv.He is a mouthpiece for the organization. Tom Modrak, John Guy and Jim Devendorf run the orgainzation from a personel side of things.

 

[Snotbubbles]

26) Philly Eagles- Justin BlalockIt just always seems that the Eagles are building their line and this big haus could give them alot of versitility. You could put him on the other side of Andrews and "Big John" and have as solis of a line as anyone in the NFL.

Eagles line is pretty much set for a long timeTodd Herremans (signed through 2013)Jamal Jackson (signed through 2013)Shaun Andrews (signed through 2015)Plus they drafted Winston Justice and Max Jean-Gilles last year. Both Herremans and Andrews can slide out to tackle if need be. They may take a OL in this draft, but I doubt it will be in Round 1.

 

[David Yudkin]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

Good input. Do you think TB would give up both #2's to move up to the #2 overall.

yea I do

Using the handy-dandy draft pick calculator . . .Pick #2 = 2600Pick #4 = 1800Pick #35 = 550Pick #64 = 270Total = 2620

 

[Capella]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

Good input. Do you think TB would give up both #2's to move up to the #2 overall.

yea I do

Using the handy-dandy draft pick calculator . . .Pick #2 = 2600Pick #4 = 1800Pick #35 = 550Pick #64 = 270Total = 2620

it makes perfect sense.

 

[David Yudkin]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

Good input. Do you think TB would give up both #2's to move up to the #2 overall.

yea I do

Using the handy-dandy draft pick calculator . . .Pick #2 = 2600Pick #4 = 1800Pick #35 = 550Pick #64 = 270Total = 2620

it makes perfect sense.

Obvioulsy it would not happen until the first pick was off the board.

 

[Capella]

2) ATL Falcons- Calvin Johnson (Atl trades #2 in 2007 and 2008 along with #8 overall)

Using the NFL point grading sytem . . .#2 pick = 2600 points#8 pick = 1400 points#42 pick = 480 points (I believe ATL 2nd round pick is the #10 pick)Picks for future seasons typically are graded out at a round later, so 2008 second rounder = 2007 third rounderFor argument's sake, Pick 106 = 82 pointsAdd it up 2600 points trumps 1962 points. Long story short, that package of picks is not enough to move up to the #2 pick.

It might not add up but we are talking about Millen here right?With all honesty I think that will be the best deal Detroit can get for a pick they are shopping and will have to take it.

with one of the best prospects this decade sitting there, there's no way that would be the best package they'll see. the bucs have already said they are considering moving up, and they have the #4 and two second-rounders THIS year.

Good input. Do you think TB would give up both #2's to move up to the #2 overall.

yea I do

Using the handy-dandy draft pick calculator . . .Pick #2 = 2600Pick #4 = 1800Pick #35 = 550Pick #64 = 270Total = 2620

it makes perfect sense.

Obvioulsy it would not happen until the first pick was off the board.

right. but if we see russell go first, I expect to hear "we have a trade" from the commish shortly thereafter.

 

[Capella]

and the faiders would have the most to gain from trading down, as either russell or quinn will likely be there for them.