My all sleeper team for 2007 (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

 

[duaneok66]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everydayQB - Jay Cutler RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this yearRB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving TexansRB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUPRB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offenseWR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offenseWR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you goTE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offenseTE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurtK - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stallingDEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

nice list - but Norwood is NOT asleep . . . he's overrated if anything . . .

 

[NOONAN]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

 

[JohnnyU]

Disclaimer - I own Kev Jones in 3 out of 6 leagues, Santonio Holmes in 2 out of 6, Scobee in 1 of 6, James Jones in 5 of 6, Cutler in 1 of 6, Norwood 1 of 6, Steelers def 2 of 6, and McMichael in 1 of 6. The rest of the guys are not on any of my dynasty teams.

 

[JohnnyU]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

Is there any way I can explain it differently for you to understand? I'm open to anything.

 

[DoubleG]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

Is there any way I can explain it differently for you to understand? I'm open to anything.

I believe it was sarcasm. For a Jags drive to stall, there had to be a "drive" to begin with. With no passing game to speak of, it's pretty obvious that teams are just going to put 8 in the box to stuff Taylor/MJD/Gerrard and make Gerrard beat them with his arm. Ironically, I have Scobee - and he's the only Jag I'd even consider having on my team right now. They are a mess.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

QB - Matt Schaub - People are sleeping on the Texans, he's got weapons, and the team is rallying around him in the preseason. It'll become crystal clear by October that most of this team's problems we're caused by David Carr.

QB - Tarvaris Jackson - Wouldn't want him to be my starter or my primary backup right away, and it may take a couple of weeks for him to get into a rythym, but he's not as bad as people assume he is because their first impression of him was that NFL Network game debacle last year. QB3 with more upside than your Trent Green's and Jeff Garcia's

RB - Kevin Jones - loving how cheap he is this year. I also believe his doctors, Dunn and Duce Staley came back from the same injury and played well. You can get RB2 production at worst for the price of a RB5. Just hang tight for the first 6 weeks.

RB - Julius Jones - as hard as MBIII fans have been working to inform the world that Barber is the better back, as they may be right, the fact of the matter is that Julius is still the starter. I think he loosens up a bit with Parcells gone and has a nice season.

RB - Warrick Dunn - the forgotten man in Atlanta. Norwood may have more burst, but Dunn, assuming he's healthy, is not that far behind, and is better than Norwood at pass protection, which means more snaps since Joey needs all the help he can get in that area. I see a lot of receptions in Dunn's future this year.

WR - Patrick Crayton - I don't see Glenn playing at an optimal level for all 16 games this year, so Crayton, in a contract year, takes his opportunity and runs with it.

WR - Issac Bruce - this guy's still alive? Yes he is, and he seems to be getting more productive with age. The Holt health situation may send more balls Ike's way while defenses still must respect Drew Bennett, McMichael and SJax out of the backfield.

WR - James Jones/Jacoby Jones - have to make them one line since they'll probably be grouped together in owner's minds for awhile. Both probably a little overvalued at this point, but whenever you're compared by people to Sterling Sharpe (James), you listen. As for Jacoby, the kid's just electric. I can't see Kevin Walter holding him off, and you have to like Kubiak saying he needs to find ways to keep Jacoby on the field. I'm telling you, could be a nice year down in Houston.

TE - Jason Witten - Not so much a sleeper as just completely overlooked among the starting tier TE's. Jason Garrett and Romo both love him, and he can't do much worse than his 1 TD last year. (quick aside: as an Eagles fan, it makes me sick to have three Cowboys on this list, but I have to call them like I see them).

TE - Daniel Graham - they didn't pay him all that money to be a part-timer. Had a nose for the end zone with NE, and with Scheffler hurt, and Marshall's health always iffy, Graham should find himself to be a nice safety valve for Cutler.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

Is there any way I can explain it differently for you to understand? I'm open to anything.

Maybe you could way you think the Jags O will not be that good in the red zone, and that you swee them scoring more FGs compared to TDs relative to other teams in the NFL...

 

[gordonjerry]

I think these are strong. How many Td's do you see Chester Taylor with? I really think he will have value even with AP.

 

[JohnnyU]

Maybe you could way you think the Jags O will not be that good in the red zone, and that you swee them scoring more FGs compared to TDs relative to other teams in the NFL...

I think the Jags have enough weapons to move the ball, but I don't think they can close the deal (QB play mostly). The offense and Del Rio will see to that. Scobee has improved every year and this year he could become the Robbie Gould of the AFC.

 

[JohnnyU]

I think these are strong. How many Td's do you see Chester Taylor with? I really think he will have value even with AP.

Well, I don't really know. I can see ADP stepping in sometime and everyone forgetting Taylor. I still think he will be there like a nagging boil on the lip of ADP. I can see 8 rushing TDs for Taylor.

 

[Zigg]

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

The NFL is 50% talent, 50% preparation. Last years Raiders were the least prepared team that I have ever seen by a considerable margin. To use last years performance as a basis for what will happen this season is a huge mistake. Jordan and Curry will be huge bargains.

 

[JohnnyU]

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

The NFL is 50% talent, 50% preparation. Last years Raiders were the least prepared team that I have ever seen by a considerable margin. To use last years performance as a basis for what will happen this season is a huge mistake. Jordan and Curry will be huge bargains.

Oh, I don't place this year's production on last year's results. I happen to know that the Raiders suck offensively. They don't have a QB, OL, or WR. That's enough for me to say Jordan will suck this year. I do however think the Raiders will be pretty good defensively.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Wow. I think this hurts the Jag's offense as a whole. I would steer clear of their kicker for a little more potent of an offense like Brown in Seattle if he's available.

 

[JohnnyU]

Wow. I think this hurts the Jag's offense as a whole. I would steer clear of their kicker for a little more potent of an offense like Brown in Seattle if he's available.

With kickers, it is a very hard question. Do I go with the explosive offense and count my extra points, or do I go with a kicker on a team with a very good defense and a decent offense, but not explosive? I tend to lean toward teams with a good defense and decent offense (especially running game), who will leave my kicker with a lot of chances. Most of those chances are within the 40-50 yd range also.

 

[-OZ-]

Wow. I think this hurts the Jag's offense as a whole. I would steer clear of their kicker for a little more potent of an offense like Brown in Seattle if he's available.

With kickers, it is a very hard question. Do I go with the explosive offense and count my extra points, or do I go with a kicker on a team with a very good defense and a decent offense, but not explosive? I tend to lean toward teams with a good defense and decent offense (especially running game), who will leave my kicker with a lot of chances. Most of those chances are within the 40-50 yd range also.

this has to be for another thread, but I'd love to see the statistical analysis here.

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everydayQB - Jay Cutler RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this yearRB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving TexansRB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUPRB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offenseWR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offenseWR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you goTE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offenseTE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurtK - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stallingDEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

In a redraft, I put Campbell ahead of Cutler for value and I see them producing about the same this year. (QB13 / 96 overall for Cutler, QB26 / 163 overall for Campbell)Also, Duane may be right about Norwood. Aside from those, good list. I have to remember, being hyped in the SP doesn't always mean they're no longer in value in most drafts.

 

[Fantaholic]

QB - Matt Schaub - People are sleeping on the Texans, he's got weapons, and the team is rallying around him in the preseason. It'll become crystal clear by October that most of this team's problems we're caused by David Carr.

QB - Tarvaris Jackson - Wouldn't want him to be my starter or my primary backup right away, and it may take a couple of weeks for him to get into a rythym, but he's not as bad as people assume he is because their first impression of him was that NFL Network game debacle last year. QB3 with more upside than your Trent Green's and Jeff Garcia's

RB - Kevin Jones - loving how cheap he is this year. I also believe his doctors, Dunn and Duce Staley came back from the same injury and played well. You can get RB2 production at worst for the price of a RB5. Just hang tight for the first 6 weeks.

RB - Julius Jones - as hard as MBIII fans have been working to inform the world that Barber is the better back, as they may be right, the fact of the matter is that Julius is still the starter. I think he loosens up a bit with Parcells gone and has a nice season.

RB - Warrick Dunn - the forgotten man in Atlanta. Norwood may have more burst, but Dunn, assuming he's healthy, is not that far behind, and is better than Norwood at pass protection, which means more snaps since Joey needs all the help he can get in that area. I see a lot of receptions in Dunn's future this year.

WR - Patrick Crayton - I don't see Glenn playing at an optimal level for all 16 games this year, so Crayton, in a contract year, takes his opportunity and runs with it.

WR - Issac Bruce - this guy's still alive? Yes he is, and he seems to be getting more productive with age. The Holt health situation may send more balls Ike's way while defenses still must respect Drew Bennett, McMichael and SJax out of the backfield.

WR - James Jones/Jacoby Jones - have to make them one line since they'll probably be grouped together in owner's minds for awhile. Both probably a little overvalued at this point, but whenever you're compared by people to Sterling Sharpe (James), you listen. As for Jacoby, the kid's just electric. I can't see Kevin Walter holding him off, and you have to like Kubiak saying he needs to find ways to keep Jacoby on the field. I'm telling you, could be a nice year down in Houston.

TE - Jason Witten - Not so much a sleeper as just completely overlooked among the starting tier TE's. Jason Garrett and Romo both love him, and he can't do much worse than his 1 TD last year. (quick aside: as an Eagles fan, it makes me sick to have three Cowboys on this list, but I have to call them like I see them).

TE - Daniel Graham - they didn't pay him all that money to be a part-timer. Had a nose for the end zone with NE, and with Scheffler hurt, and Marshall's health always iffy, Graham should find himself to be a nice safety valve for Cutler.

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

 

[JohnnyU]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

 

[Fantaholic]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

QB - Matt Schaub - People are sleeping on the Texans, he's got weapons, and the team is rallying around him in the preseason. It'll become crystal clear by October that most of this team's problems we're caused by David Carr.

QB - Tarvaris Jackson - Wouldn't want him to be my starter or my primary backup right away, and it may take a couple of weeks for him to get into a rythym, but he's not as bad as people assume he is because their first impression of him was that NFL Network game debacle last year. QB3 with more upside than your Trent Green's and Jeff Garcia's

RB - Kevin Jones - loving how cheap he is this year. I also believe his doctors, Dunn and Duce Staley came back from the same injury and played well. You can get RB2 production at worst for the price of a RB5. Just hang tight for the first 6 weeks.

RB - Julius Jones - as hard as MBIII fans have been working to inform the world that Barber is the better back, as they may be right, the fact of the matter is that Julius is still the starter. I think he loosens up a bit with Parcells gone and has a nice season.

RB - Warrick Dunn - the forgotten man in Atlanta. Norwood may have more burst, but Dunn, assuming he's healthy, is not that far behind, and is better than Norwood at pass protection, which means more snaps since Joey needs all the help he can get in that area. I see a lot of receptions in Dunn's future this year.

WR - Patrick Crayton - I don't see Glenn playing at an optimal level for all 16 games this year, so Crayton, in a contract year, takes his opportunity and runs with it.

WR - Issac Bruce - this guy's still alive? Yes he is, and he seems to be getting more productive with age. The Holt health situation may send more balls Ike's way while defenses still must respect Drew Bennett, McMichael and SJax out of the backfield.

WR - James Jones/Jacoby Jones - have to make them one line since they'll probably be grouped together in owner's minds for awhile. Both probably a little overvalued at this point, but whenever you're compared by people to Sterling Sharpe (James), you listen. As for Jacoby, the kid's just electric. I can't see Kevin Walter holding him off, and you have to like Kubiak saying he needs to find ways to keep Jacoby on the field. I'm telling you, could be a nice year down in Houston.

TE - Jason Witten - Not so much a sleeper as just completely overlooked among the starting tier TE's. Jason Garrett and Romo both love him, and he can't do much worse than his 1 TD last year. (quick aside: as an Eagles fan, it makes me sick to have three Cowboys on this list, but I have to call them like I see them).

TE - Daniel Graham - they didn't pay him all that money to be a part-timer. Had a nose for the end zone with NE, and with Scheffler hurt, and Marshall's health always iffy, Graham should find himself to be a nice safety valve for Cutler.

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

If you don't believe the doctors or think his season is sunk, then so be it. It's a serious injury, and he could always have a setback between now and then. I'll defer to the doctors who say he's close to healed, and by about week 8 or so, once Tatum Bell stabs his owners in the heart, yet again, with his subpar play, KJ retakes the starting job and ranks at least in the top 24 RBs while he plays. Remeber that last year was his first in the Martz offense, and he was top 10 until he got injured. The fact that you have a chance at that kind of production down the stretch for the same price as a Leon Washington, Chris Brown or Michael Turner makes it a gamble worth taking.

 

[JohnnyU]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

 

[Fantaholic]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

 

[JohnnyU]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

You call KJ, who was top-10 last year, a bum, and then come back with Tatum Bell? Tatum Bell? Mr. Ploy to Motivate Guy? This guy couldn't get a sniff of top 10 if you gave him Dallas' O-Line from the 90s. He got pushed out of his job by an undrafted rookie last year. Tatum Bell is not a threat.

 

[Fantaholic]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

I know you're not making this up.All I was saying was that when KJ and RB2 were put in the same sentence together for this season I found it amusing. Furthermore, if you can tell me that you would feel comfortable starting a healthy KJ as your number 2 then all the power to you. I personally throw up a little in my mouth at the thought of it.

 

[Linton Trust]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

I bolded those that i strongly agree with... the others i think could have good sesons, i just don't feel strong about them...I also would replace Cutler with Campbell... I have Camp in every league i'm in and got him near the end of the draft across the board... he's ranked 25-30 and every magazine i looked at... HE THREW 10 TDS IN 7 GAMES... Cutler had 9 Tds in 5 games... both have good rec corps... both are on strong running teams... don't see much difference in them other than Camp can be drafted about 100 players later than Cutler... and is probably sitting on a lot of leagues waiver wire....

Lamont Jordan can be gotten as late as the 12th round... same with Lendale White... at that point - who cares if they flop?

 

[Linton Trust]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

I know you're not making this up.All I was saying was that when KJ and RB2 were put in the same sentence together for this season I found it amusing. Furthermore, if you can tell me that you would feel comfortable starting a healthy KJ as your number 2 then all the power to you. I personally throw up a little in my mouth at the thought of it.

in ppr leagues - he can be a RB2 easily... in non-ppr leagues - i wouldn't touch him (for health concerns).my first statement is assuming Tatum doesn't cut too much into his load...

 

[Bernie Digs]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

I know you're not making this up.All I was saying was that when KJ and RB2 were put in the same sentence together for this season I found it amusing. Furthermore, if you can tell me that you would feel comfortable starting a healthy KJ as your number 2 then all the power to you. I personally throw up a little in my mouth at the thought of it.

That last statement was incredibly ignorant. If KJ did not suffer from the foot injury mid-season last year he would be drafted by the middle of round 2 this season. Even with an incredibly horrible offensive line last season he was still averaging around 100 yards a game rushing/recieving. The Lions line can not be any worse than it was last year and the players have had time to learn Martz's timing system that much better.

 

[thehornet]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

Is there any way I can explain it differently for you to understand? I'm open to anything.

I believe it was sarcasm. For a Jags drive to stall, there had to be a "drive" to begin with. With no passing game to speak of, it's pretty obvious that teams are just going to put 8 in the box to stuff Taylor/MJD/Gerrard and make Gerrard beat them with his arm. Ironically, I have Scobee - and he's the only Jag I'd even consider having on my team right now. They are a mess.

haahaa! All of a sudden the Jags are a big mess!! But they weren't a few hours ago when Leftwich was the starter?? News Flash: Leftwich and Garrard are basically the same quality QB, with Garrard possibly getting the edge. Also, i love the saying, "teams are going to put 8 in the box". What are you even talking about? With the emergence of MJD and solid play of Taylor, the Jags have an extremely muti-dimensional running game that will caus fits to opposing defenses. If anything, defenses were more likely to load the box on Lefty because he is less mobile then Garrard.

Jacksonville is a pretty good team. You are translating what other people on this board are saying about Jacksonville player fantasy value and applying it to the success and faliure of the Jags "real life" team. They are not the same thing.

Sorry, totally off topic.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hey guys and gals, it's not like most of these will prove to work out, but I usually don't put myself out there like this, so there you go. I'm not naive enough to think that I will hit on most of these, but it is fun to try. That's the fun part of OUR hobby. Hell, I don't know more than 50% of you people that patrol this board, but I do like that I win most of the time

 

[ImTheScientist]

Since when are players picked in the early to middle rounds of drafts sleepers? Give me some late round players or players that will be on the FF wire and those are sleepers.

 

[Steel Town]

Many will disagree, but I see alot of value in Chris Brown. I think he is flat out better than LenDale White, and will earn a majority of carries. I also feel he is better suited to catch passes out of the backfield or benefit from a scamper from VY for big plays - than White is. Available in later rounds. Teams that draft qbs or wrs early could look to Brown for a rb2 option.

 

[Heaton]

So, James Jones over Brandon Jones? Or?

 

[TheNext0]

Since when are players picked in the early to middle rounds of drafts sleepers? Give me some late round players or players that will be on the FF wire and those are sleepers.

Took all the way until this post for me to agree with something in this thread. Seriously, I don't mean to be rude, but I don't consider any of the guys you posted "sleepers". That term is thrown around so loosely anymore. Seriously, I've got guys in my league that don't even surf the net and even they are big on most of these guys.

 

[Dt's Mules]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

I know you're not making this up.All I was saying was that when KJ and RB2 were put in the same sentence together for this season I found it amusing. Furthermore, if you can tell me that you would feel comfortable starting a healthy KJ as your number 2 then all the power to you. I personally throw up a little in my mouth at the thought of it.

good point! he really isn't a RB2 at allmore like bottom tier RB1

 

[JohnnyU]

Took all the way until this post for me to agree with something in this thread. Seriously, I don't mean to be rude, but I don't consider any of the guys you posted "sleepers". That term is thrown around so loosely anymore. Seriously, I've got guys in my league that don't even surf the net and even they are big on most of these guys.

Sleepers is loose term, so who are yours? Put yourself out there instead of slamming my sleepers. Do you want to name some RB3 or WR3, or QB2 as your sleepers? It's easy to criticize others when you don't have an opinion of our own.Thanks for your 26th post to the shark pool. We await your next one with great anticipation.

 

[Mr. Pink]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

I'm trying to navigate through the English here, but in doing so, if I'm reading this right, you're suggesting that the Lions brought in T. Bell as insurance for KJ. The way I remember it, T. Bell was a throw-in by Denver when they traded George Foster to Detroit.To reiterate other responses to this post, KJ was top ten in terms of PPG last season, so yes, he has a great deal of value where he is being drafted.

 

[DoubleG]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

Is there any way I can explain it differently for you to understand? I'm open to anything.

I believe it was sarcasm. For a Jags drive to stall, there had to be a "drive" to begin with. With no passing game to speak of, it's pretty obvious that teams are just going to put 8 in the box to stuff Taylor/MJD/Gerrard and make Gerrard beat them with his arm. Ironically, I have Scobee - and he's the only Jag I'd even consider having on my team right now. They are a mess.

haahaa! All of a sudden the Jags are a big mess!! But they weren't a few hours ago when Leftwich was the starter?? News Flash: Leftwich and Garrard are basically the same quality QB, with Garrard possibly getting the edge. Also, i love the saying, "teams are going to put 8 in the box". What are you even talking about? With the emergence of MJD and solid play of Taylor, the Jags have an extremely muti-dimensional running game that will caus fits to opposing defenses. If anything, defenses were more likely to load the box on Lefty because he is less mobile then Garrard.

Jacksonville is a pretty good team. You are translating what other people on this board are saying about Jacksonville player fantasy value and applying it to the success and faliure of the Jags "real life" team. They are not the same thing.

Sorry, totally off topic.

First, sorry to the OP for a minor hijack. Second, multi-dimensional typically refers to a team that can run AND pass (not just run with 3 different guys) - for more on this point please see the 7-9 Falcons from last year. Although that's not really a fair comparison as the Falcons also have Crumpler.

Putting 8 in the box means bringing all 3 LBs and a safety up close to stop the run (typically because you don't need your safety to help deep because you're not afraid of the QB beating you with his arm). QB mobility has nothing to do with whether or not you bring the safety up - QB arm strength, ability to read and react and QB accuracy deep does.

The Jags were 8-8 last year. There QB situation is a mess. There coach is an idiot and a jerk. To illustrate these points, he cut hi starting QB AFTER the entire preseason thus making it almost impossible for Lefty to catch on with another team while, simultaneously, wasting vital 1st team preseason snaps on a QB who won't play a down of regular season football for his team. Taylor is a year older, and, by his own admission, more out of shape. If the Jags finish .500 I will be shocked.

In summary, to call the Jags a "pretty good team" is an extreme stretch of the word and the facts. Forgive me, I am a Bears fan - they are a "pretty good team".

Out of respect for the OP, this topic, if continued should start a new thread.

 

[dmac37]

QB - Matt Schaub - People are sleeping on the Texans, he's got weapons, and the team is rallying around him in the preseason. It'll become crystal clear by October that most of this team's problems we're caused by David Carr.

I've got him in my dynasty as a #2, something tells me he could turn out to be my #1 over Leinart. AJ could see top 5 numbers with Schaub, Jacoby Jones, and Daniels.

 

[Jayrod]

First, sorry to the OP for a minor hijack.

Second, multi-dimensional typically refers to a team that can run AND pass (not just run with 3 different guys) - for more on this point please see the 7-9 Falcons from last year. Although that's not really a fair comparison as the Falcons also have Crumpler.

Putting 8 in the box means bringing all 3 LBs and a safety up close to stop the run (typically because you don't need your safety to help deep because you're not afraid of the QB beating you with his arm). QB mobility has nothing to do with whether or not you bring the safety up - QB arm strength, ability to read and react and QB accuracy deep does.

The Jags were 8-8 last year. There QB situation is a mess. There coach is an idiot and a jerk. To illustrate these points, he cut hi starting QB AFTER the entire preseason thus making it almost impossible for Lefty to catch on with another team while, simultaneously, wasting vital 1st team preseason snaps on a QB who won't play a down of regular season football for his team. Taylor is a year older, and, by his own admission, more out of shape. If the Jags finish .500 I will be shocked.

In summary, to call the Jags a "pretty good team" is an extreme stretch of the word and the facts. Forgive me, I am a Bears fan - they are a "pretty good team".

Out of respect for the OP, this topic, if continued should start a new thread.

The Jags were almost as good as the Bears last year (I figured the Bears were about the 5th best team in the NFL last year). The Jags could have made it to the Championship game if they played in the NFC. (And they beat the Colts 44-17)I don't think the Leftwich decision was JDR's. Head coaches don't usually make this kind of decision (based primarily on $$$). I'm sure JDR wanted to keep Lefty and would have started him over Garrard, but for $5+ mil., he wasn't looking THAT much better.

The Jags are a pretty darn good team...almost as good as the Bears, who I consider a VERY good team.

 

[Guru]

Garrard is an upgrade over Slowitch. It was like night and day watching the 2 of them against the Packers. After that game I said Slowitch is not a starting QB in the NFL. I am glad the Jags seen the light.

 

[Gopher State]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

I know you're not making this up.All I was saying was that when KJ and RB2 were put in the same sentence together for this season I found it amusing. Furthermore, if you can tell me that you would feel comfortable starting a healthy KJ as your number 2 then all the power to you. I personally throw up a little in my mouth at the thought of it.

I agree even when KJ back he's going to be sharing times with Bell and the other RB's

 

[nygiants56]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everydayQB - Jay Cutler RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this yearRB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving TexansRB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUPRB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offenseWR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offenseWR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you goTE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offenseTE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurtK - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stallingDEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

Nice list.I would have added Joey Harrington , he looks like he might revived his career in Atl. disagree on Lamont Jordan, the Oak offense has looked surprisingly good in preseason.How about adding Kevin Curtis to WR list: the guy can flat-out run! McNabb kept hitting Stallworth on bombs, early last season, until Stallworth got hurt. Curtis should do the same in 2007. could be a top 10 WR. :gulperhaps you could add LenDale White to the RB list too? he is,afterall, backing up or at least splitting with Chrissy Brown, who's due to get hurt in 3.....2.......1...

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I'm not sure I would call any kickers "sleepers" but I really like Ryan Longwell this season. Everyone is staying away from him because of the Vikings' offense, but I feel that is the reason you should target the guy. He plays in a dome and with the defense that he has (and the lack of offense), they will be playing conservatively and kicking a ton of field goals - he is accurate and think he can have a great year.

 

[NOONAN]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everyday

QB - Jay Cutler

RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this year

RB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving Texans

RB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUP

RB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offense

WR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.

WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offense

WR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you go

TE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offense

TE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurt

K - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stalling

DEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

You lost me here...

Is there any way I can explain it differently for you to understand? I'm open to anything.

I believe it was sarcasm. For a Jags drive to stall, there had to be a "drive" to begin with. With no passing game to speak of, it's pretty obvious that teams are just going to put 8 in the box to stuff Taylor/MJD/Gerrard and make Gerrard beat them with his arm. Ironically, I have Scobee - and he's the only Jag I'd even consider having on my team right now. They are a mess.

haahaa! All of a sudden the Jags are a big mess!! But they weren't a few hours ago when Leftwich was the starter?? News Flash: Leftwich and Garrard are basically the same quality QB, with Garrard possibly getting the edge. Also, i love the saying, "teams are going to put 8 in the box". What are you even talking about? With the emergence of MJD and solid play of Taylor, the Jags have an extremely muti-dimensional running game that will caus fits to opposing defenses. If anything, defenses were more likely to load the box on Lefty because he is less mobile then Garrard.

Jacksonville is a pretty good team. You are translating what other people on this board are saying about Jacksonville player fantasy value and applying it to the success and faliure of the Jags "real life" team. They are not the same thing.

Sorry, totally off topic.

First, sorry to the OP for a minor hijack. Second, multi-dimensional typically refers to a team that can run AND pass (not just run with 3 different guys) - for more on this point please see the 7-9 Falcons from last year. Although that's not really a fair comparison as the Falcons also have Crumpler.

Putting 8 in the box means bringing all 3 LBs and a safety up close to stop the run (typically because you don't need your safety to help deep because you're not afraid of the QB beating you with his arm). QB mobility has nothing to do with whether or not you bring the safety up - QB arm strength, ability to read and react and QB accuracy deep does.

The Jags were 8-8 last year. There QB situation is a mess. There coach is an idiot and a jerk. To illustrate these points, he cut hi starting QB AFTER the entire preseason thus making it almost impossible for Lefty to catch on with another team while, simultaneously, wasting vital 1st team preseason snaps on a QB who won't play a down of regular season football for his team. Taylor is a year older, and, by his own admission, more out of shape. If the Jags finish .500 I will be shocked.

In summary, to call the Jags a "pretty good team" is an extreme stretch of the word and the facts. Forgive me, I am a Bears fan - they are a "pretty good team".

Out of respect for the OP, this topic, if continued should start a new thread.

1) Garrard is superior in all 3 areas here.2) Why would the Jags want to give Leftwich time to catch on with another team? Also, the preseason gave them the evaluation time they needed. My guess is they were leaning toward Garrard after last year and wanted confirmation from this preseason. Garrard was stellar in his appearances and is already very familiar with the offense.

3) Less Taylor(who I love BTW-have a Taylor jersey, drafted as a ROOKIE in a keeper league behind Mack) means more MJD(who I also love and picked up last year). That is a BIG plus for the Jags.

4) The Jags D keeps them competitive. A little help from the offense could put them at 10-11 wins.

*apologizesforcontinuinghijack*

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

The NFL is 50% talent, 50% preparation. Last years Raiders were the least prepared team that I have ever seen by a considerable margin. To use last years performance as a basis for what will happen this season is a huge mistake. Jordan and Curry will be huge bargains.

Oh, I don't place this year's production on last year's results. I happen to know that the Raiders suck offensively. They don't have a QB, OL, or WR. That's enough for me to say Jordan will suck this year. I do however think the Raiders will be pretty good defensively.

 

[JohnnyU]

Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.

The NFL is 50% talent, 50% preparation. Last years Raiders were the least prepared team that I have ever seen by a considerable margin. To use last years performance as a basis for what will happen this season is a huge mistake. Jordan and Curry will be huge bargains.

Oh, I don't place this year's production on last year's results. I happen to know that the Raiders suck offensively. They don't have a QB, OL, or WR. That's enough for me to say Jordan will suck this year. I do however think the Raiders will be pretty good defensively.

 

[Gr00vus]

Since when are players picked in the early to middle rounds of drafts sleepers? Give me some late round players or players that will be on the FF wire and those are sleepers.

O.K. I'll try my hand. I'm not saying all these guys will be studs, but that they could very well prove useful at some point - and a couple of them may become regulars in someone's FF starting lineup by season's end.Players currently with and ADP of 204 or lower (ie. 18th round or worse of a 12 team draft), with an * next to guys are think are screaming deals:QB: Brady Quinn*QB: John BeckQB: Kellen ClemensRB: Noah HerronRB: Jason Snelling*RB: Ahmad BradshawRB: Nick GoingsRB: Heath EvansWR: Jacoby Jones* (still ADP of 206!?!?)WR: Craig Davis*WR: Nate Burleson*WR: Sidney Rice*WR: Roydell WilliamsTE: Marcedes Lewis*TE: Visanthe ShiancoeOne thing to learn from this, which as usual confirms what I already knew, is that WR is the place to slough and take chances. ALWAYS value there on the waiver wire.

 

[Fantaholic]

Holy crap. KJ couldn't put up RB2 numbers this year with LT running for him.

You may very well be right, and I must say that he was one of my weaker sleepers, but hey, his doctors say he's close to 100% and they may not even put him on the PUP. That gives us Jones in week 3 or 4. How do you like them apples?

While he may prove to be somewhat of a sleeper based on where gets picked, he couldn't consisently put up RB2 numbers when healthy with the starting job. Why would that happen when injured and sharing time with Bell?

Exqueeze me? I believe he was top 10 at the time he got hurt last year, lol.

Wow, top 10! Go ahead and take him as your RB2. Good luck.The guy is a bum. That's the way brought the wonderful Tatum Bell in.

Hey, I'm not making this s--t up.

I know you're not making this up.All I was saying was that when KJ and RB2 were put in the same sentence together for this season I found it amusing. Furthermore, if you can tell me that you would feel comfortable starting a healthy KJ as your number 2 then all the power to you. I personally throw up a little in my mouth at the thought of it.

I agree even when KJ back he's going to be sharing times with Bell and the other RB's

Thanks for agreeing with me. ####, for a second there I thought I was stuck in some Kevin Jones fan club site instead the the shark pool.Stats aside boys and girls, because we all know there is room for qualitative analysis in the fantasy world (pardon me Mr. Drinen). Take your KJ stats and shove em. All of you praising him, please forward me your lineups that show him as your RB2 at any point this season.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

QB - J.P Losman - Getting better everydayQB - Jay Cutler RB - Jerious Norwood - I don't care if Dunn is starting, Norwood will be the better back this yearRB - Ahman Green - Will have a very good year for the improving TexansRB - Kevin Jones - Something tells me to believe his doctors, plus he may not go on PUPRB - Chester Taylor - He had 1200+ yds and 6 tds last year and ADP is injury prone. Even if Peterson doesn't get hurt Taylor will start the season and do well.Those who think LaMont Jordan will be a sleeper this year are out of your mind. Another team, maybe, but not the Raiders offesnse.WR - Santonio Holmes - Stud in the making, even in a run first offenseWR - Braylon Edwards - With the QB play improving this year, so will Braylon.WR - Jacoby Jones - Looking like a playmaker in an improving offenseWR - James Jones - I have him in every dynasty league I have, so there you goTE - Randy McMichael - Love him in that offenseTE - Daniel Graham - Looks like the main TE in Denver now that Scheffler is hurtK - Josh Scobee - improving every year, and I see a lot of Jags drives stallingDEF - Pittsburgh Steelers - They will be better than last year

Nice idea, all though a couple on your list may not qualify as sleepers.For your dinning pleasure:QB - PenningtonQB - GarrardQB - Smith RB - Tatum BellRB - Ladell Betts RB - Leon WashingtonWR - Patrick CraytonWR - Terrance CopperWR - Roydell WilliamsWR - James Jones TE - Marcus PollardTE - Daniel OwensK - Jeff ReedDEF - Titans