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My Knee!!! (2 Viewers)

Should I...

  • Go to an ER

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Call my primary doc tomorrow (actually have an unrelated appointment scheduled for next Friday)

    Votes: 20 60.6%
  • Rub some dirt on it

    Votes: 10 30.3%

  • Total voters
    33
Almost exactly 15 years ago I was sitting on the floor in my living room and I noticed I couldn't fully extend my left leg. I didn't necessarily have pain but it really freaked me out that I couldn't fully extend my left leg. So I bypassed my primary physician, the ER and all of that and I went directly to an Ortho center. I had torn the meniscus which then caused a Baker's cyst (or popliteal cyst) to form behind my knee. The Ortho surgeon repaired the meniscus, drained the cyst, rinsed the area with saline and I think I was only off my feet for a couple of days. My memory is that I found the crutches so aggravating to use that I just stayed off the leg but slowly recovered as I was instructed. In my case I didn't have to have rehab or anything, apparently my situation was fairly typical. I will say that I'm happy that I decided to cut to the chase and go directly to the Ortho center. The facility was then a brand new facility, they were advertising everywhere at the time so it just made sense to go there directly.
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yes this. I’ve done about everything one can do to a knee. May it only be meniscus. The pop suggests acl. And in rare cases ball cancer. Thops
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
I am trying to dig into this right now. I just switched insurance as of June 1...haven't used it for anything yet.
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
I am trying to dig into this right now. I just switched insurance as of June 1...haven't used it for anything yet.
Our local orthopedic surgeons office has walk ins on certain days of the week. Might want to call around and see if that is an option.
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function

Awe man, speedy recovery, GB. :thumbup:

You too @Galileo
 
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RIP your meniscus old timer
As the owner of two bad knees, a couple meniscus tears & repairs and a knee that will require replacement at some point...yep
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
Also this. Your knee should look like a softball now and you should notice some pain while walking on it. In about a week the swelling will go away and you'll be able to walk alright but the stability in your knee won't be there. Go see an ortho and get that thing clipped, stripped and glued back together. Assuming it's torn, probably 6 months soup to nuts to get back on your feet feeling good but it's not a hard recovery. Just do what the doc tells you, can't emphasize that enough.
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
Good luck to you. At least you were doing something exciting when you got hurt. I was just going down the stairs.
 
A year or so ago I had some bad pain in my knee and it just seemed like my knee wasn't working right. I didn't seem to have full mobility and it ached.

During the night while in bed I moved to turn over and felt a pop (no pain) in the knee. Next day I woke up and the pain was gone and I had mobility back. Been fine ever since (knock on wood).

Others speculated a flap in my meniscus got caught causing the pain and the the pop freed it and pain went away. I have no idea.
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
Samkon Gado?
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
Samkon Gado?
That was the same thought I had, but he's an ENT.
 
GET THE MRI!!!!

My first knee surgery, the DR was convinced it was just the meniscus, scheduled surgery and found the ACL was torn. Had to go back in a month later to get that fixed. All because he didn't do an MRI. He also didn't do PT before surgery and the PT after was just weight training. Knee has never been the same.

10 or so years later, did the other knee. Used a different Dr. MRI showed what was wrong, PT/Surgery/PT and no issues.

Anyway, just my suggestion. Knee injuries are not the end of the world. Meniscus, ACL, MCL, LCL can all be repaired and get you back to normal. GOOD LUCK!
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
Good luck to you. At least you were doing something exciting when you got hurt. I was just going down the stairs.
No, you were training for your upcoming triathlon.
 
GET THE MRI!!!!

My first knee surgery, the DR was convinced it was just the meniscus, scheduled surgery and found the ACL was torn. Had to go back in a month later to get that fixed. All because he didn't do an MRI. He also didn't do PT before surgery and the PT after was just weight training. Knee has never been the same.

10 or so years later, did the other knee. Used a different Dr. MRI showed what was wrong, PT/Surgery/PT and no issues.

Anyway, just my suggestion. Knee injuries are not the end of the world. Meniscus, ACL, MCL, LCL can all be repaired and get you back to normal. GOOD LUCK!
Wtf? Surgery without any imaging? That’s beyond odd.
 
GET THE MRI!!!!

My first knee surgery, the DR was convinced it was just the meniscus, scheduled surgery and found the ACL was torn. Had to go back in a month later to get that fixed. All because he didn't do an MRI. He also didn't do PT before surgery and the PT after was just weight training. Knee has never been the same.

10 or so years later, did the other knee. Used a different Dr. MRI showed what was wrong, PT/Surgery/PT and no issues.

Anyway, just my suggestion. Knee injuries are not the end of the world. Meniscus, ACL, MCL, LCL can all be repaired and get you back to normal. GOOD LUCK!
Wtf? Surgery without any imaging? That’s beyond odd.
Agreed. All their normal tests for strength and stability indicated no tear in the ACL. And the Dr supposedly worked with the USC football team so I didn't question and didn't know any better.
Did seem odd but trusted the dr.
 
GET THE MRI!!!!

My first knee surgery, the DR was convinced it was just the meniscus, scheduled surgery and found the ACL was torn. Had to go back in a month later to get that fixed. All because he didn't do an MRI. He also didn't do PT before surgery and the PT after was just weight training. Knee has never been the same.

10 or so years later, did the other knee. Used a different Dr. MRI showed what was wrong, PT/Surgery/PT and no issues.

Anyway, just my suggestion. Knee injuries are not the end of the world. Meniscus, ACL, MCL, LCL can all be repaired and get you back to normal. GOOD LUCK!
Wtf? Surgery without any imaging? That’s beyond odd.
I had that when I tore my achilles. Doctor felt and did a couple other tests and said it was a compete rupture and an MRI wasn't needed and a waste of money. Had surgery the next day.
 
I've got quite a little party going on in my knee...arthritis (knew about this), thinning cartilage, bone spurs, floaters, knee cap slightly off center and...torn meniscus. At least the doc said my story and the tests she did are consistent with a meniscus tear. She speculates the rough arthritis edge probably wore through a part of the meniscus that No MRI done, just an x-ray. The plan moving forward is Advil, a supportive brace, and PT. She didn't think it was significant enough for a surgical repair. I had this knee scoped some 30ish years ago where my meniscus was "cleaned up". She said any surgical procedure would involve cutting away more of the meniscus which she didn't think was necessary at this point and it may be possible to avoid with PT. Sadly, the earliest PT appointment I was able to make is July 7th.
 
I've got quite a little party going on in my knee...arthritis (knew about this), thinning cartilage, bone spurs, floaters, knee cap slightly off center and...torn meniscus. At least the doc said my story and the tests she did are consistent with a meniscus tear. She speculates the rough arthritis edge probably wore through a part of the meniscus that No MRI done, just an x-ray. The plan moving forward is Advil, a supportive brace, and PT. She didn't think it was significant enough for a surgical repair. I had this knee scoped some 30ish years ago where my meniscus was "cleaned up". She said any surgical procedure would involve cutting away more of the meniscus which she didn't think was necessary at this point and it may be possible to avoid with PT. Sadly, the earliest PT appointment I was able to make is July 7th.
As someone who has had 4 knee surgeries (all severe Meniscus tears) and has basically no meniscus left in my right knee, 50% in left, be grateful for the PT route.
 

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
@the moops

works here. But also where the hell did that post of mine come from?

Also - sorry to hear about the hamstring. That sucks
@the moops worked, this time.

That’s not an actual post by you. I just cut-and-pasted a random response you had made, replacing the content with the heel hook warning.

BTW, I haaaaaate heel hooks, often mocking my friends who use them as “stupid boulderers”.

Well, I guess I found out why. The tear occurred as I was performing a shoulder high heel hook. It was strenuous, but static, with the pop! occurring as I rocked from heel to toe.

I’m guessing my reluctance to embrace heel hooks contributed to the injury, as my hamstring wasn’t conditioned for the unusual forces involved. Still, it’s pretty nuts a body weight move was enough to tear two tendons of one of the largest muscles in the body.
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
Good luck to you. At least you were doing something exciting when you got hurt. I was just going down the stairs.
Appreciate it. Actually, not super exciting, as I hate the move that caused the injury. I did it just to cross the climb off my “list”, so I never had to do it again.

Well, I guess I accomplished my goal :kicksrock:
 
I wouldn't mess with an ER unless the pain is excruciating. If your insurance doesn't require a referral I'd just go to a sports med specialist.
This.

Wrap it, ice it, elevate it, don't put any weight on it, ibuprofen.
Yeah, if you can still walk on it, non-emergent evaluation. I’d consider sports medicine/orthopedic urgent care, insurance permitting.

Related, I felt a pop in my hip/upper leg while climbing Sunday, followed by excruciating pain. Couldn’t walk, so friends took me to the ED.

Eight hours later, after x-ray, CT, MRI, and consultation by the ortho resident (ex-NFL player, I’ve now learned), I’ve been diagnosed with a torn hamstring. I hobbled to my car on crutches, maybe 100 yards away, but it took over an hour, due to pain and nausea.

Had follow up with ortho attending today. Two of three tendons torn, surgery next Monday. So much for the four hiking/climbing trips I’d scheduled this summer. 🙁

Be careful with your heel hooks.
ETA Can’t ever locate moops using the @ function
Samkon Gado?
Nah, some rando who was signed by the Broncos, but never played.
 
GET THE MRI!!!!

My first knee surgery, the DR was convinced it was just the meniscus, scheduled surgery and found the ACL was torn. Had to go back in a month later to get that fixed. All because he didn't do an MRI. He also didn't do PT before surgery and the PT after was just weight training. Knee has never been the same.

10 or so years later, did the other knee. Used a different Dr. MRI showed what was wrong, PT/Surgery/PT and no issues.

Anyway, just my suggestion. Knee injuries are not the end of the world. Meniscus, ACL, MCL, LCL can all be repaired and get you back to normal. GOOD LUCK!
Wtf? Surgery without any imaging? That’s beyond odd.
I had that when I tore my achilles. Doctor felt and did a couple other tests and said it was a compete rupture and an MRI wasn't needed and a waste of money. Had surgery the next day.
Yeah, this happens. If anything, far too many imaging tests are performed. The classic one is MRI for low back pain.

I’m saying this as someone who just had X-rays, CT, and MRI performed in a single visit. And no, I don’t think all were indicated.
 
I've got quite a little party going on in my knee...arthritis (knew about this), thinning cartilage, bone spurs, floaters, knee cap slightly off center and...torn meniscus. At least the doc said my story and the tests she did are consistent with a meniscus tear. She speculates the rough arthritis edge probably wore through a part of the meniscus that No MRI done, just an x-ray. The plan moving forward is Advil, a supportive brace, and PT. She didn't think it was significant enough for a surgical repair. I had this knee scoped some 30ish years ago where my meniscus was "cleaned up". She said any surgical procedure would involve cutting away more of the meniscus which she didn't think was necessary at this point and it may be possible to avoid with PT. Sadly, the earliest PT appointment I was able to make is July 7th.
I wouldn’t wait a month before starting PT. Look up the rehab online, or ask AI for exercises and timeline for recovery.
Rehabilitation following a meniscus tear in a middle-aged man (typically 40–60 years old) depends on several factors, including:
  • Type of tear (e.g., degenerative vs. traumatic)
  • Treatment approach (non-surgical vs. surgical — and if surgical, whether it's a meniscectomy or meniscus repair)
  • Overall joint health (e.g., presence of osteoarthritis)
  • Activity goals (return to sport vs. functional daily living)

Below is a general timeline and exercise progression for both non-surgical and post-surgical management, assuming no major complications.

🩺 Non-Surgical Management (Degenerative Tear)


This is common in middle-aged men and usually managed conservatively unless symptoms persist.


Weeks 0–2: Acute Phase
  • Goals: Reduce pain/swelling, maintain ROM, protect the knee
  • Exercises:
    • Rest, ice, compression, elevation (RICE)
    • Heel slides (gentle knee flexion/extension)
    • Quadriceps setting (isometric)
    • Straight leg raises (if no pain)

Weeks 2–4: Subacute Phase
  • Goals: Improve ROM, begin light strength, normalize gait
  • Exercises:
    • Stationary cycling (pain-free range)
    • Mini squats (0–45°)
    • Step-ups
    • Calf raises
    • Balance training (e.g., single-leg stance)

Weeks 4–8: Strengthening Phase
  • Goals: Restore full strength, stability, and function
  • Exercises:
    • Leg press (0–60° ROM)
    • Lateral band walks
    • Hamstring curls
    • Lunges (if tolerated)
    • Proprioception drills (balance board, BOSU)

Weeks 8–12+: Return to Activity
  • Gradual return to sport or high-level activity
  • Agility drills (if needed)
  • Continue strength/balance maintenance
Now that’s very generic, but you didn’t specify lateral vs. medial meniscus, or other limitations you have. But it’s a good starting point, to be supplemented by stuff like YouTube video for proper exercise form, until you can see the therapist.
 
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Judging by the age poll of this site id assume 80% of us have really really bad knees. 50% of my military disability rating is my knee. Stupid knees.
Other than low back, my joints are great.

And yeah, the hammy hurt. Was a really bad idea to chose crutches to get back to my car. Probably not too smart driving home either, though I could do most of the work with my thumbs, and brake with my left foot.

How bad was your hamstring injury, and how long was rehab? Can message me directly to nor derail the thread further.
 
Just got the estimate for my hamstring repair, a same day surgery: $55K :eek:
I've been pretty hard on my body my entire life. The injury page is deep. My hamstring tear was by far my most painful. Just brutal
and NFL fans howl when players on their team don't come back to play after a torn hamstring in 4 weeks
Yeah, those wusses usually just tear the muscle, typically decelerating from sprinting. I pulled two tendons right off the bone.
 

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