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Footballguy
You get free lvl 2 with Etrade, I can deal with the 9.99 commissions because these Etrade tools are so great.
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My Stock Value Strategy Starts Now (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter David Dodds
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Cromedog
Footballguy
Where can I find the L2 quotes on Etrade?
optionmaven
Footballguy
Better numbers than i got, but pretty much same position. Still holding 500 @ 1.90. Sold 500 at 3.27.Otis and Otis's friend.......thanks for chk. 20 % in two days. To quote Larry David...."pretttty good...ppprettty good."
Card Trader
Footballguy
Open up the market trader or the power etrade pro apps and it's called "Market Depth".
Cromedog
Footballguy
Thanks!
Card Trader
Footballguy
NP, poweretrade is a little much for me here at work, so I use the MarketTrader app, it's great, you can do everything from it and it's pretty compact. Everything is tabbed so you can go from lvl 2 to charts instantly.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Who gave CENX?
They deserve a round of applause.....
They deserve a round of applause.....
optionmaven
Footballguy
Prgn @ 4.75 anyone??? July 2.50 calls have a bid of 2.15 and ask of 2.40. July 5 calls have a .40 bid and .50 ask. All we would need out of her is 5.50.
edit: both june 5 calls and july 5 calls have light volume but a 300/1 margin over the puts.
edit: both june 5 calls and july 5 calls have light volume but a 300/1 margin over the puts.
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NYG Endzone
Footballguy
Amex is delayed mostly everywhere.Use this live ticker
http://www.smartmoney.com/stock-quote/?symbol=HEB
The Ref
Footballguy
Once again - this whole market is tied to the USD Index. It's like clockwork.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=DXY%3AIND
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=DXY%3AIND
The Ref
Footballguy
PRGN is so May.
playin4beer
Footballguy
Ok... this is pissing me off...
How in the hell do you turn on the live stock ticker on scottrade?
I've looked everywhere....can somebody explain it to me like i'm an idiot????
How in the hell do you turn on the live stock ticker on scottrade?
I've looked everywhere....can somebody explain it to me like i'm an idiot????
The Ref
Footballguy
Could be wrong, but I think it was our Chairman.
I brought UNG to the table. 
Otis was CHK methinks 
KGB was HEB 
SIDA!
Footballguy
The same ####### that has been bearish and was too much of a tightass to buy it and profit. Oof!In all seriousness though, I am just happy to give back and appreciate the sharing other participants have provided.Kinda funny. Someone mentioned EMIS and I made 33%. I mentioned CENX and others have made money. Etc. Cool little deal we have going here.
McBokonon
Footballguy
On the left there is a link called Scottsdale Streaming Quotes. Click that. A little box will open for a second and then the other windows will load.
playin4beer
Footballguy
Why does it always seem to be the most obvious things that i make into a complicated mess???
McBokonon
Footballguy
Ended up unloading these at 1.40 today for a 55+% gain in two days. I expect it to go higher, but I promised myself to take profits and since these are July calls, I didn't want to take any chances.McBokonon said:Up almost 28% as they are trading at 1.15 already. I usually sell now but this is earlier than I thought.
The Ref
Footballguy
Scared of the roll? Or do you not like the chart?
SIDA!
Footballguy
Still a little bitter about not pulling the trigger on some of these names.
Came in today long UNG and GRS at 200 shares a piece. And short the NOC one lot.
Cheated on my 5K account and add two grand to get more shares of _UNG. Snagged 400 more UNG at 13.99.
Sold my 600 shares at 14.94 cuz I felt it was coming up on the short term downtrend line in the 15.00 level.
Hoping to reenter at 14.50.
Edit to add that my ahem 5K ...er...7K account is now up 885 bucks.
Came in today long UNG and GRS at 200 shares a piece. And short the NOC one lot.
Cheated on my 5K account and add two grand to get more shares of _UNG. Snagged 400 more UNG at 13.99.
Sold my 600 shares at 14.94 cuz I felt it was coming up on the short term downtrend line in the 15.00 level.
Hoping to reenter at 14.50.
Edit to add that my ahem 5K ...er...7K account is now up 885 bucks.
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Otis
Footballguy
Another great reason to like CHK:
It looks like we're about to see a golden cross in the chart:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CHK&p...p;dy=0&id=0
It looks like we're about to see a golden cross in the chart:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CHK&p...p;dy=0&id=0
NajehHejan
Footballguy
Still holding 1,733 HEB at average cost of $1.83. As Dodds said before. and I’ll say it again – if Ampligen was going to be denied, the FDA would have done it already. In Feb the decision was pushed out for 3 months. Then in May the FDA asked for 1-2 more weeks. Why not just put it out of its misery? The length of time has to be due to the labeling and other legal matters.
I’m so giddy about those sponges I can’t wait to buy another 3,000 shares of SPNG tomorrow once my funds settle. I’m already up about 15% on my 6,705 shares. Come on in and join the fun.
I’m so giddy about those sponges I can’t wait to buy another 3,000 shares of SPNG tomorrow once my funds settle. I’m already up about 15% on my 6,705 shares. Come on in and join the fun.
The bolded isn't true. The new commish of the FDA has to divest stock holdings, that is the holdup. The recent delay gives zero indication whether HEB is going to be approved or not.They have to remove any conflicts of interest whether the decision is positive or negative.
optionmaven
Footballguy
I bought into these calls near the buzzer today. 5 July 15 calls for 1.20. 600 buy in.Couldn't help myself, had to bite on paragon. 10 july 5 calls for .45. 450 buy in. If this is still on its southward run, i will either toss it with a 200-250 loss, or, come over the top and buy 20-30 more options to cost average down.Ended up unloading these at 1.40 today for a 55+% gain in two days. I expect it to go higher, but I promised myself to take profits and since these are July calls, I didn't want to take any chances.McBokonon said:Up almost 28% as they are trading at 1.15 already. I usually sell now but this is earlier than I thought.
David Dodds
Administrator
I know someone here said they received their PRGN dividend. I have not yet. Has everyone received theirs? Not sure who I should call here or how long I should wait on this.
06/09/2009 DIVIDEND RECEIVED PRGN PARAGON SHIPPING INC Cash Amount: $175.00
djmich
Footballguy
Got mine.
The Kerminator
Footballguy
Got mine as well.
David Dodds
Administrator
Year to Date Profit = $130,909
Last Trades Realized Gains/Losses = just bought today
Holding:
8,000 CENX @ 6.97 (7.99 in After Hours)
2500 UNG @13.98 (14.76 in After Hours)
5,000 HEB @ 2.34 (2.57 in After Hours)
400 CHK @ 22.77 (24.25 in After Hours)
1,000 KERX @ 1.22 (1.21 in After Hours)
Last Trades Realized Gains/Losses = just bought today
Holding:
8,000 CENX @ 6.97 (7.99 in After Hours)
2500 UNG @13.98 (14.76 in After Hours)
5,000 HEB @ 2.34 (2.57 in After Hours)
400 CHK @ 22.77 (24.25 in After Hours)
1,000 KERX @ 1.22 (1.21 in After Hours)
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
My world, welcome to it.Why does it always seem to be the most obvious things that i make into a complicated mess???
David Dodds
Administrator
Great post on PRGN from the Google Message Board:
As a fundamentalist/value investor, PRGN sure is maddening. If one
looks at their booked fleet, they could earn around $100 million in
the next 5 Qtrs. After that, they still could be solidly profitable
for another 2-3 quarters before the new lower shipping rates kick in.
It seems like, listening to their CFO speak at the MS conference (it's
on another post on this board), that -
- He's a fairly straight forward, seasoned guy. He's not "hypy" at
all.
- PRGN is raising the current capital- most probably due to bank
covenant issues- but, should have no problems retaining their cash
position because they don't have any new build requirements.
- PRGN will look to buy ships in 2010.
- He presented the shipping build glut in a very straight forward
manner. Didn't pull any punches.
Added that the self servicing underwriters- Cantor- puts a price of
over $20 on PRGN- suggests that PRGN was probably too aggressive in
registering the second 10,000,000 shares for ATM sales.
The only thing I can think of is with all the newly minted ATM shares,
there really isn't anyone excited enough to buy up the shares. Maybe
it's starting to get "orphaned".
Look at it another way, say if a company comes to you and says-
1) We're a fairly new player in the shipping field.
2) Our fleet is above average; but, 1/3 to 1/4 the size of some of the
"big boys."
3) We have great earnings now; but, in 1.5 years, we're going to fall
off a cliff (earnings wise.)
4) The shipping industry, by the way, before 2003, encountered a glut
of ships for around 18 years.
5) But, we're a bunch of pretty savvy guys and we'll be hoarding
money. At the current projected valuation in another 2 years, we'll
have almost as much cash as our current market value. At that time,
we'll go around buying a bunch of ships and hope to God that there are
a bunch of these new-builds being scrapped so we'll get a windfall in
4-5 years buy buying them at distress prices.
It's a great company for a value investor; but, probably not for the
DRYS crowd that sees the potential skyrocketing value of DRYS' 6
drillships being deployed in the next 1-2 years.
I'm not sure the stock price will necessarily go up with earnings
announcements. It feels like the news is being discounted. Maybe
after they're done with the ATM fundraising and if the rest of the dry
ship continues a general up-trend, some of the "fast money" will pile
into PRGN.
The current weakness is frustrating because it seems that the "fast
money" is selling the stock.
As a fundamentalist/value investor, PRGN sure is maddening. If one
looks at their booked fleet, they could earn around $100 million in
the next 5 Qtrs. After that, they still could be solidly profitable
for another 2-3 quarters before the new lower shipping rates kick in.
It seems like, listening to their CFO speak at the MS conference (it's
on another post on this board), that -
- He's a fairly straight forward, seasoned guy. He's not "hypy" at
all.
- PRGN is raising the current capital- most probably due to bank
covenant issues- but, should have no problems retaining their cash
position because they don't have any new build requirements.
- PRGN will look to buy ships in 2010.
- He presented the shipping build glut in a very straight forward
manner. Didn't pull any punches.
Added that the self servicing underwriters- Cantor- puts a price of
over $20 on PRGN- suggests that PRGN was probably too aggressive in
registering the second 10,000,000 shares for ATM sales.
The only thing I can think of is with all the newly minted ATM shares,
there really isn't anyone excited enough to buy up the shares. Maybe
it's starting to get "orphaned".
Look at it another way, say if a company comes to you and says-
1) We're a fairly new player in the shipping field.
2) Our fleet is above average; but, 1/3 to 1/4 the size of some of the
"big boys."
3) We have great earnings now; but, in 1.5 years, we're going to fall
off a cliff (earnings wise.)
4) The shipping industry, by the way, before 2003, encountered a glut
of ships for around 18 years.
5) But, we're a bunch of pretty savvy guys and we'll be hoarding
money. At the current projected valuation in another 2 years, we'll
have almost as much cash as our current market value. At that time,
we'll go around buying a bunch of ships and hope to God that there are
a bunch of these new-builds being scrapped so we'll get a windfall in
4-5 years buy buying them at distress prices.
It's a great company for a value investor; but, probably not for the
DRYS crowd that sees the potential skyrocketing value of DRYS' 6
drillships being deployed in the next 1-2 years.
I'm not sure the stock price will necessarily go up with earnings
announcements. It feels like the news is being discounted. Maybe
after they're done with the ATM fundraising and if the rest of the dry
ship continues a general up-trend, some of the "fast money" will pile
into PRGN.
The current weakness is frustrating because it seems that the "fast
money" is selling the stock.
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None_More_Black
Footballguy
Management is trying to figure out if they are going to have to do another equity offering to pay you.
David Dodds
Administrator
Positive HEB article today
Even if somehow the FDA does not give the green light for CFS for HEB, their real promise is how far they are down the pipeline in the FDA circus to be a quality adjuvant for things like H1N1. I am guessing today will be rocky (lots of swings) for HEB, but I am planning to ride my 5,000 shares to a decision. And if FDA disapproves, I might even cost average down for a large stake into what these guys are doing.
Even if somehow the FDA does not give the green light for CFS for HEB, their real promise is how far they are down the pipeline in the FDA circus to be a quality adjuvant for things like H1N1. I am guessing today will be rocky (lots of swings) for HEB, but I am planning to ride my 5,000 shares to a decision. And if FDA disapproves, I might even cost average down for a large stake into what these guys are doing.
David Dodds
Administrator
This is the post on Yahoo's message boards that sums up HEB for me personally:
Hi All,
I know how anxious everyone is getting, but maybe the people that are the most anxious are the ones at HEB! To suggest they know the answer and are sitting on it is ludicrous. No one knows if it will be approved right now, not the street.com, not tim sykes, not me, not you, no one. We will know when the FDA decides and that is all there is to it.
When will they decide? No one knows that either. Tomorrow? Maybe. Next week? Maybe. Next month? Maybe. There are so many wild theories as to why it is being delayed like this that we just can't post them all on this forum!
You know I always like to look at facts. The facts look good right now for HEB. We have a major drug in line for approval, we are a major player in the latest swine flu outbreak, and we have enough cash to keep us going for a long time. HEB is not going anywhere. The potential for this company far outweighs the risks at this point. The upside potential in stock price is enormous, look at the swings we have had over the last 5 days. This is certainly not a stock for the faint of heart. As many have pointed out, the day traders are having their way with us right now, but, once Ampligen is approved, many will get burned.
The bottom line is, in order for us to keep moving higher (without any FDA decision right now) we need real news rather than speculation. It is great that Japan loves our product for the flu battle, but we need orders! It is great Ausralia is interested, but we need orders! It is great that Italy invited us to the conference just recently, but we need a commitment from them. Until we start hearing about legitimate monetary commitments for our products, I am afraid we just trade sideways on speculation.
How quick can all of that change? In the blink of an eye! Many have asked if all of this good news can come out at once. Yes, it can, in a relatively short amount of time. Once again, do your research and draw your own conclusions, I would seriously reconsider giving up on HEB because a government agency did not stick to a two week timeline, if you do lose your patience, you might be incredibly disappointed that you didn't hold onto HEB once we get the outcome.
Hi All,
I know how anxious everyone is getting, but maybe the people that are the most anxious are the ones at HEB! To suggest they know the answer and are sitting on it is ludicrous. No one knows if it will be approved right now, not the street.com, not tim sykes, not me, not you, no one. We will know when the FDA decides and that is all there is to it.
When will they decide? No one knows that either. Tomorrow? Maybe. Next week? Maybe. Next month? Maybe. There are so many wild theories as to why it is being delayed like this that we just can't post them all on this forum!
You know I always like to look at facts. The facts look good right now for HEB. We have a major drug in line for approval, we are a major player in the latest swine flu outbreak, and we have enough cash to keep us going for a long time. HEB is not going anywhere. The potential for this company far outweighs the risks at this point. The upside potential in stock price is enormous, look at the swings we have had over the last 5 days. This is certainly not a stock for the faint of heart. As many have pointed out, the day traders are having their way with us right now, but, once Ampligen is approved, many will get burned.
The bottom line is, in order for us to keep moving higher (without any FDA decision right now) we need real news rather than speculation. It is great that Japan loves our product for the flu battle, but we need orders! It is great Ausralia is interested, but we need orders! It is great that Italy invited us to the conference just recently, but we need a commitment from them. Until we start hearing about legitimate monetary commitments for our products, I am afraid we just trade sideways on speculation.
How quick can all of that change? In the blink of an eye! Many have asked if all of this good news can come out at once. Yes, it can, in a relatively short amount of time. Once again, do your research and draw your own conclusions, I would seriously reconsider giving up on HEB because a government agency did not stick to a two week timeline, if you do lose your patience, you might be incredibly disappointed that you didn't hold onto HEB once we get the outcome.
Random
Footballguy
Awesome. If that does half of what those baseless The Street articles do we should see a very nice run today.
David Dodds
Administrator
What dip? LOL. No one here can read exactly what the market is going to do at a precise moment in time. Natural Gas is priced way too low. We all know that. So this is a good time to buy. I would cost average in (buy some now and wait for a dip to get more in). Good luck
David Dodds
Administrator
As funny as it sounds in 5 years HEB could be the biggest vaccine company in the world...
The capacity of the manufacturing facility could in fact supply the entire world with 90% of the contents of seasonal flu vaccines...
and do it far cheaper than the big companies
Even more promising, says Carter, is to use Ampligen together with traditional antiviral medications like Tamiflu or Relenza. That would allow doctors to dilute those drugs by a factor of five and still retain efficacy. That would turn our planned stockpile of 44 million Tamiflu treatments into 220 million treatments, without making it a less effective drug. "We can produce 30 million doses a year if it's called for," says Carter.
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My view - snippets from the Yahoo board...the quality adjuvant piece though is very exciting. They are FAR ahead of other companies here. 75,000 or so doses has been given to humans already.
This is all being presented by the bashers that it's over if somehow FDA approval is denied. I think far from it. This company has something that the world wants/needs and it's close. If not today, then in a few months. Even without FDA approval, Japan seems ready to use it as an adjuvant for H1N1 now.
The capacity of the manufacturing facility could in fact supply the entire world with 90% of the contents of seasonal flu vaccines...
and do it far cheaper than the big companies
Even more promising, says Carter, is to use Ampligen together with traditional antiviral medications like Tamiflu or Relenza. That would allow doctors to dilute those drugs by a factor of five and still retain efficacy. That would turn our planned stockpile of 44 million Tamiflu treatments into 220 million treatments, without making it a less effective drug. "We can produce 30 million doses a year if it's called for," says Carter.
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My view - snippets from the Yahoo board...the quality adjuvant piece though is very exciting. They are FAR ahead of other companies here. 75,000 or so doses has been given to humans already.
This is all being presented by the bashers that it's over if somehow FDA approval is denied. I think far from it. This company has something that the world wants/needs and it's close. If not today, then in a few months. Even without FDA approval, Japan seems ready to use it as an adjuvant for H1N1 now.
Cromedog
Footballguy
14.35 pre-market
David Dodds
Administrator
I look at HEB as a stock play through this lens:
FDA rejection - stock plummets to about $1.10
FDA positive, but wants more tests - stock drops to about $1.90
FDA Approval - Stock bounces to 9.00+
FDA Approval / Japan orders - Stock jumps to $15.00+
Almost regardless of what percentages you would assign to the above probabilities, it's very under-priced because of it's homerun potential. Maybe this is full-fledged gambling. But I think the long view of this company is very positive. If there was no risk, there would be no big reward either.
FDA rejection - stock plummets to about $1.10
FDA positive, but wants more tests - stock drops to about $1.90
FDA Approval - Stock bounces to 9.00+
FDA Approval / Japan orders - Stock jumps to $15.00+
Almost regardless of what percentages you would assign to the above probabilities, it's very under-priced because of it's homerun potential. Maybe this is full-fledged gambling. But I think the long view of this company is very positive. If there was no risk, there would be no big reward either.
