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Those rates are not great. SBLK did a little better for itself a couple of months ago. I think SBLK is a better value at this point. Coverage rates for 2010 and 2011 are less at 71 and 42 but SBLK will out earn (per share as well) PRGN in 2010 and they have 100 million less debt. PRGN is still a good value and I would certainly feel comfortable holding the stock with the clearer future revenue visibility.
I need to delve into SBLK more, but appreciate this post. I once was all over this stock, but it then grew so fast that I sent it to the sidelines.
There is not that much difference between PRGN and SBLK. Very similar companies so I have a tendency to compare the two. I think SBLK is now a slightly better value right now but PRGN has probably the best guaranteed charter coverage % in drybulk for 2011. Both are good value stocks whose conservative strategy will allow them to survive and pay a nice divi.
 
itriple said:
Im thinking of piling on the PRGN at $3.70But, I think Ill be able to get more at $3.60ish in the next week or so???? I just dont wanna miss the boat.
You never can tell, but there are a lot of buyers in the queue from 3.66-3.61. If the market turns south or if the ATM offering isn't over you may get a chance at 3.60. That said, If your going to build a considerable position you may want to start now.
I think I just missed the boat (a bit). I dont see it going below $3.60 anymore. They are locking in good proftis for the next 2 and 1/2 years.Im gonna start loading up for anything under $3.75 (if I can).
 
Those rates are not great. SBLK did a little better for itself a couple of months ago. I think SBLK is a better value at this point. Coverage rates for 2010 and 2011 are less at 71 and 42 but SBLK will out earn (per share as well) PRGN in 2010 and they have 100 million less debt. PRGN is still a good value and I would certainly feel comfortable holding the stock with the clearer future revenue visibility.
I need to delve into SBLK more, but appreciate this post. I once was all over this stock, but it then grew so fast that I sent it to the sidelines.
There is not that much difference between PRGN and SBLK. Very similar companies so I have a tendency to compare the two. I think SBLK is now a slightly better value right now but PRGN has probably the best guaranteed charter coverage % in drybulk for 2011. Both are good value stocks whose conservative strategy will allow them to survive and pay a nice divi.
I used to be a big fan of SBLK moreso than PRGN. The thing about the two is the daily volume. SBLK doesn't have much volume, and doesn't seem to move as much on a single day. I got bored watching SBLK's ticker when I held it. I did make a large bulk of my profits back in April on it though.
 
Ok went through SBLK stuff a lot more. Also a very good company. They have built their company using 4 Capesize and 8 Supramax whereas PRGN consists of 8 Panamax and 4 Supramax. The Capes earn the most money, then Panamax and then Supramax. The bigger ships also carry higher depreciation and dry docking costs and are tougher to manage charters. One could make an argument for either company and they operate very similarly. Both generate great cash flow by locking down their charters longer term and staying away from dabbling much in the spot market (BDI rates are higher, but also hard to have close to 100% utilization)

Here is how I would rate these companies:

DWT Capacity: SBLK

Vessel Age: PRGN (Capes are getting old at SBLK)

Management Team: PRGN, but SBLK is also very good

Long-term Debt: SBLK now, but will be very close after PRGN dilution

Growth Potential: Both seem poised to be bigger companies. I would probably favor PRGN because Capes come with extra headaches to manage (Dry Docking, competition w/China, China charters, etc)

2nd Quarter Stock Pop potential: PRGN slightly. Look at PRGNs YTD numbers (way off that mark) and also their rise after 1st quarter earnings. Both should get an earnings bounce though.

Dividend: Tie - Both pay 0.05

P/E Ratio: SBLK looks like they will have the better future P/E, but both are extremely low.

Dilution chance after earnings: Neither seem to need to do it

Charters Locked Up: PRGN has 2010 and 2011 locked up pretty tight. SBLK has also done a good job locking down charters.

Surprises at earnings: Neither should have any surprises. PRGN could announce that they have bought back shares which would have a multiplication effect on their stock price if it is higher at earnings.

If I were building the company: I think both have great blueprints actually. Long-term, I would rather have Panamax and Supramax ships, but it's hard to argue with the revenues the Capes produce now. China seems intent on being a big player in Shipping and they are building a lot of Capesize ships so that market will get worse going forward. Most of the ship cancellations you are seeing being announced are for Capes. But short-term, the BCI is very high and helping SBLK crush revenues.

Bottom Line: I plan to diversify a bit here and carry both SBLK and PRGN into August. I expect both to do well leading up to and through earnings.

 
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Thoughts on UNG (or other NG plays) at this point? This should be a hold position through EOY-ish ... anyone considering adding here? Down again pre-market ... slow bleed over the last 2 wks.

 
I think I am going to be active early in this market and might dump all PRGN and HEB early with the hopes of getting back in later in the day

 
David...thoughts on this...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/143707-fcg...natural-gas-etf

Thought I've been profitable on OIL and UNG this year...but there has to be a better way to go...maybe FCG is one.
I think this is the Natural Gas play going forward. I am holding UNG and CHK, but will start trading and building in FCG. This also eliminates the Contango issues.
FCG is very lightly traded.
I know it is, but since I mostly just plan to wait and hold I really want something that is not going to get killed by the Contango. I think this is it as it's comprised of the Natural Gas companies instead of the commodity. I plan to buy now, add on dips and be super strong in this by January.
 
I'm thinking DXO looks pretty good(safe) to enter if it tanks some more today.

ETA: of course I have no more money to buy with now...

 
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My “make a quick 20% off ADXS” failed miserably. Bought in at Monday and, contrary to the past month’s history, the stock barely budged. I could have sold for 6% profit at one point but instead just sold for 8% loss to free up money to buy 315 SPPI @ $6.40

 
New indices to cover maritime shipping sector

Capital Link Shipping, a New York based investor relations and advisory firm, this week announced the launching of a set of indices to track the different classes of shipping stocks. Here is a listing of the new indices:

* Capital Link Maritime Index

* Capital Link Tanker Index

* Capital Link Drybulk Index

* Capital Link Container Index

* Capital Link LNG/LPG Index

* Capital Link Mixed Fleet Index

* Capital Link MLP Index
 
My “make a quick 20% off ADXS” failed miserably. Bought in at Monday and, contrary to the past month’s history, the stock barely budged. I could have sold for 6% profit at one point but instead just sold for 8% loss to free up money to buy 315 SPPI @ $6.40
What was that crazy #### you bought a few weeks back that blew up in your face? Then someone else jumped in at like 9 cents a share and rode it to 13+ cents.
 
sold 17,800 PRGN at 3.70 (woohoo I made a penny per share...lol). I just expect with the market puling back so much, I will get a better spot to get back in here. I had 20,000 for sale, but the others have not executed yet. Hoping to be back in at low around 3.60 soon.

 
sold 17,800 PRGN at 3.70 (woohoo I made a penny per share...lol). I just expect with the market puling back so much, I will get a better spot to get back in here. I had 20,000 for sale, but the others have not executed yet. Hoping to be back in at low around 3.60 soon.
Thanks for killing the run. Would be $3.75 now. :popcorn:
 
sold 17,800 PRGN at 3.70 (woohoo I made a penny per share...lol). I just expect with the market puling back so much, I will get a better spot to get back in here. I had 20,000 for sale, but the others have not executed yet. Hoping to be back in at low around 3.60 soon.
Thanks for killing the run. Would be $3.75 now. :confused:
When every other Shipper is down 2-5% and PRGN is up a percent with the market down 2.5%, I am going to sell everytime. I know I will be in this stock strong by earnings and I will consistently move in and out to better my price before taking my final stand. Today should have been a great day for PRGN with their announcement, but the overall market doomed them.
 
what to buy? what to buy? Lots of bargains out there today.
Bargains. Really?I guess where some people see the so-called "green shoots" in the economy as a positive...the "green" I see sprouting up are noxious weeds.These days, be careful of what the whores and shills of wall street have to sell.I have 3 on-going trades made a few days ago.DDG at $61.97...now at $63.50PUI at $13.86...now at $13.86SBB: at $50.30...now at $50.85.Taking positions today in:DIA, DBB and DBC via puts (Oct and Dec).Reviewing Pro and Powershare etfs. The following are now on Daily Sell Signals:PXR, PEF, PBD, PMNA, DBB, DBC, PAGG,PSAU, PSTL, PDP, PPA, PUW, PJB, PHB, PXI, PXE, PRN, PBS, PXJ, PMR.MANY MANY OTHERS CLOSE TO ROLLING OVER.SPY and QQQQ are range bound...right now bias is to the downside...on a daily chart. DOW is a SELL.Summer time is often traded in a range. So I'm not very comfortable being on the short side.Most likely going to be closing up "shop" in an hour or so. Then it is golf for about 10 straight days.
 
what to buy? what to buy? Lots of bargains out there today.
Bargains. Really?I guess where some people see the so-called "green shoots" in the economy as a positive...the "green" I see sprouting up are noxious weeds.These days, be careful of what the whores and shills of wall street have to sell.I have 3 on-going trades made a few days ago.DDG at $61.97...now at $63.50PUI at $13.86...now at $13.86SBB: at $50.30...now at $50.85.Taking positions today in:DIA, DBB and DBC via puts (Oct and Dec).Reviewing Pro and Powershare etfs. The following are now on Daily Sell Signals:PXR, PEF, PBD, PMNA, DBB, DBC, PAGG,PSAU, PSTL, PDP, PPA, PUW, PJB, PHB, PXI, PXE, PRN, PBS, PXJ, PMR.MANY MANY OTHERS CLOSE TO ROLLING OVER.SPY and QQQQ are range bound...right now bias is to the downside...on a daily chart. DOW is a SELL.Summer time is often traded in a range. So I'm not very comfortable being on the short side.Most likely going to be closing up "shop" in an hour or so. Then it is golf for about 10 straight days.
As you said, I think we are range bound, it's the summer doldrums. To me that means buy on a day where we pull back sharply and sell a few days later for a small gain.Most of the china stocks I've been following all are starting to look attractive after pulling back or going sideways for the last month.
 
Take a peak at Prospect Capital Corporation - PSEC. Trading at less than book at $10/per share with an estimated value per share at $37.

Last day to get a big dividend too (Ex-Div Monday).

 
Just wrote a Oct 13 put on SLV for $.95. SLV has pulled back some from its run up and I still think longer term I want to own some. Not a bad premium to collect based on where it is currently trading.

 
Bought 500 FCG at 12.35. Seems like a great time to get into Natural Gas with inventories high and prices really low. Hurricane season is coming as is the winter

 
Otis said:
springroll said:
Otis said:
what to buy? what to buy? Lots of bargains out there today.
I like CNB the best right now. No way does the government let that bank fail and you can have it at 58 cents a share today
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dont you dare buy this stock.
:lmao:If it makes you feel any better, I sold PRGN to buy it, so that one should go through the roof.
you just screwed me double. I am not in PRGN and now it will cost me more. I own CNB and now it will drop like a rock.Thanks Otis. Great guy you are.
 
sold 17,800 PRGN at 3.70 (woohoo I made a penny per share...lol). I just expect with the market puling back so much, I will get a better spot to get back in here. I had 20,000 for sale, but the others have not executed yet. Hoping to be back in at low around 3.60 soon.
:confused:Don't want to ruin your mojo but why so skittish? $170 profit on a 50k+ investment? Seems a bit risky to chase a few pennies when this stock could skyrocket.
 
springroll said:
Take a peak at Prospect Capital Corporation - PSEC. Trading at less than book at $10/per share with an estimated value per share at $37.Last day to get a big dividend too (Ex-Div Monday).
am i reading that right??? .38 per share dividend???
No, always focus on the yield. $ 0.4062 p/share but Annual Dividend Yield of 16.20%
 
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springroll said:
Take a peak at Prospect Capital Corporation - PSEC. Trading at less than book at $10/per share with an estimated value per share at $37.Last day to get a big dividend too (Ex-Div Monday).
am i reading that right??? .38 per share dividend???
No, always focus on the yield. $ 0.4062 p/share but Annual Dividend Yield of 16.20%
i thought I read that the yield went up to 17.9% of the June 22 stock price of 9.09.I do now see where it says 16.2 somewhere else. Wonder why the difference.
 
sold 17,800 PRGN at 3.70 (woohoo I made a penny per share...lol). I just expect with the market puling back so much, I will get a better spot to get back in here. I had 20,000 for sale, but the others have not executed yet. Hoping to be back in at low around 3.60 soon.
:mellow: Don't want to ruin your mojo but why so skittish? $170 profit on a 50k+ investment? Seems a bit risky to chase a few pennies when this stock could skyrocket.
I will be back in for sure...maybe even today. I love PRGN and see this at $4.75+ by early August. But when every other Dry Shipper is down today (most 3%), but PRGN was up 1% on a market that is down 2.5%, then I am going to lock in a little gain (while mostly preserving my money for a better spot to enter in). Typically the Shippers plunge by twice the NASDAQ fall and that was what I was fearing here mostly. If there are going to be 3.60 and below shares available, I want to make sure I have them.
 
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dont you dare buy this stock.

:lmao:

If it makes you feel any better, I sold PRGN to buy it, so that one should go through the roof.

you just screwed me double. I am not in PRGN and now it will cost me more. I own CNB and now it will drop like a rock.

Thanks Otis. Great guy you are.

You've been "otisfied" :mellow:

 
Trying to add 5,000 FREE at 2.13 (about 2,000 have filled so far). This is the other Dry Shipper that should have great earnings. They are doing most everything on spot (BDI rates), but have been able to lock down 30-45 day charters. Whereas Paragon locked down for a measly 16K a ship longer term, FREE is getting 28K / day and 58K / day on a smaller ship (Handymax).

 
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<_< :pickle:

I'll gamble. In for 500 CNB @.56.

BTW, GGN(gold) is holding up well. This is a good hedge against inflation plus there are some nice dividends coming up.

(BUSINESS WIRE)--The Board of Trustees of The Gabelli Global Gold, Natural Resources & Income Trust (NYSE Amex:GGN) (the “Fund”) declared monthly cash distributions of $0.14 per share for July, August, and September 2009.

The distribution for July 2009 will be payable on July 24, 2009 to common shareholders of record on July 17, 2009.

The distribution for August 2009 will be payable on August 24, 2009 to common shareholders of record on August 17, 2009.

The distribution for September 2009 will be payable on September 23, 2009 to common shareholders of record on September 16, 2009.
 
My “make a quick 20% off ADXS” failed miserably. Bought in at Monday and, contrary to the past month’s history, the stock barely budged. I could have sold for 6% profit at one point but instead just sold for 8% loss to free up money to buy 315 SPPI @ $6.40
What was that crazy #### you bought a few weeks back that blew up in your face? Then someone else jumped in at like 9 cents a share and rode it to 13+ cents.
SPNG - I lost like 1-2 cents a share, not a huge deal, then Harris jumped in and mad elike 50% in an hour. Unreal!
 
My “make a quick 20% off ADXS” failed miserably. Bought in at Monday and, contrary to the past month’s history, the stock barely budged. I could have sold for 6% profit at one point but instead just sold for 8% loss to free up money to buy 315 SPPI @ $6.40
What was that crazy #### you bought a few weeks back that blew up in your face? Then someone else jumped in at like 9 cents a share and rode it to 13+ cents.
SPNG - I lost like 1-2 cents a share, not a huge deal, then Harris jumped in and mad elike 50% in an hour. Unreal!
That's the one. Didn't think you got out before that thing drove off the cliff that day.
 
Take a peak at Prospect Capital Corporation - PSEC. Trading at less than book at $10/per share with an estimated value per share at $37.Last day to get a big dividend too (Ex-Div Monday).
It's holding up very well vs the market today, obviously because people are trying to lock in the dividend, how much of a decrease do you think happens when it gets dumped the following week? Half the dividend rate?
 

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