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Name some buy lows on your Radars this off-season... (1 Viewer)

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Some Guys I'm thinking you can trade for cheaply that will be nice additions and add quality depth to your rosters

Torry Holt and Bulger... these 2 should rebound from a terrible season; I bet you can get either with a late 1st rder.. you might even be able to steal Bulger of a 2nd.

De Williams... should finally get a chance; Foster was awful last yr. The fact that DeWil couldn't topple Foster makes me worry

Norwood... made one more yr of experience will bring more PT. Its sounding like Dunn is finally finished.

Shockey... Manning has grown up right before our eyes. Shockey will be a part of the offense again when he comes back; especially the "Go Zone".

B Jacobs... very talent but injury concerns. Worth the risk IMO.

Reggie Bush... I bet the Bush owner is frustrated after last yr; throw them an offer and see where it gets u.

J Delhomme... may have one more season in him, was on fire before getting injured. He was dropped in one of my dynasties. He would make a great toss in for a package.

 
I don't really like Norwood or D. Williams. I'm always suspect of guys that should be able to easily take over a job but can't. I'll let someone else take the risk again this year.

Jacobs - I think what has become clear on the Giants is that they have 3 good rb's on their roster. I could see the Giants using Jacobs next year the way they used him down the stretch. let him pound for 3 yards a pop and then bring in Bradshaw to break the big ones.

I do like Bulger and think he'll be a forgotten man that be had cheap.

I like Jamal Lewis for cheap. He got better and better as the line continued to improve last year. We'll have to watch what happens in Clev. but he's still a bit forgotten despite the fact that he finished 6th last year.

 
If your team is built to win now, I'd go after Donald Driver. 2 TD season will not happen again, and while Jennings has certainly emerged, Driver should still be good for about 80+, 1100 yds, 5-8 TDs.

 
LJ Smith can probably be had for very cheap right now.

He may not be a great tight end, but he's a reasonable bet for 650/5 next year. He put up numbers similar to that in both 2005 and 2006. Low end starter or a quality backup.

 
jason Campbell showed some life at the mid-point and his injury down the stretch may make people forget. If ARE and Moss start the year healthy, he may be a very good QB2.

 
LJ Smith can probably be had for very cheap right now.He may not be a great tight end, but he's a reasonable bet for 650/5 next year. He put up numbers similar to that in both 2005 and 2006. Low end starter or a quality backup.
That's his upside. You could probably get Scheffler about the same spot if not later and I like him a little better. All those guys taste like chicken though and really aren't going to win you anything.
 
Shockey... Manning has grown up right before our eyes. Shockey will be a part of the offense again when he comes back; especially the "Go Zone".
I'm not sure on this. His numbers have been declining for a few years now. Eli's getting better but Shockey isn't. I see those dump off passes going to Bradshaw.
 
I had targeted LJ from an owner about a week ago as a buy low guy. Here's the trade I just completed:

I gave:

Torry Holt

Warrick Dunn

2008 Rookie Draft - 1.05

In exchange for:

Larry Johnson

2009 Rookie Draft - 1.00

§10 Free Agent Dollars

I like it because I had some depth at WR and took a chance on a stud regaining his form.

 
I would toss in Berrian in this too... it seems clear that the Bears aren't going to Tag him. Chances are hes on a new team next season.

 
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I think MJD will begin to play a much bigger role in JAX next year, and can be had relatively cheap right now. No way Taylor has a repeat of last year at age 32.

 
I think MJD will begin to play a much bigger role in JAX next year, and can be had relatively cheap right now. No way Taylor has a repeat of last year at age 32.
I don't think you will get MJD even "relatively" cheap right now, many have him in their top 10.
 
I think MJD will begin to play a much bigger role in JAX next year, and can be had relatively cheap right now. No way Taylor has a repeat of last year at age 32.
I agree that Taylor likely won't do as well. However, MJD owners need to be concerned with how often Taylor gets the ball. Anytime he carries it, it's one less touch for MJD. He got 23-250 touches the past two years . . . and had back to back years with career highs in ypc.
 
Way too much rookie love.

1. There's a bunch of NFL players worth more than the 1.01 pick.

2. The first few rookie picks have good value.

3. Then a huge pool of veterans are worth more than the run of the mill rookies.

4. Now here is the next 5-12 rookies. Guys with upside, opportunity, future QBs, etc.

5. Iffy guys to get on the field. The back-ups to the back-ups.

6. The rest of the rookies. A couple may do well, but it's hit or miss if you're the guy to pick them.

If you can sell a "late first round rookie pick" for most of the guys mentioned already: Do it.

 
Here's a dozen guys you can get for dirt, or at least cheap. Not all of them will pan out, but I think 4-6 of them will over the next couple seasons:

Good prospects (3-4 hits)

Brandon Jackson

Chris Henry (Ten)

Musa Smith

Chris Perry

Chad Jackson

Jason Avant

Demetrius Williams

Laurent Robinson

Longer shots (1-2 hits):

Brian Calhoun

Devard Darling

Mark Bradley

Ryan Moats

Gary Russell

 
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I own a late 1st in my dynasty league and I think the only one I could get on your list is Jake Delhmme. The rest are not close.The only player I would not trade it for other than Delhomme is Jerious Norwood unless I am using him in a second deal.

I own Holt and anything outside the #1 pick will not get it done. Holt in PPR still has 3 to 4 very good years left in him and he will help me win compared to a guy like Stewart or Mendenhall that could be Benson or Caddy like. No thanks. And even if they end up top 10, Holt probably outscores them the next 3 years anyways. Reminds me of Rudi Johnson for TO trade in my league 4 years ago. TO has crushed Rudi over that time.

 
I'll give you 1 per position:

Matt Hasselbeck, always seems to be top-10 but owners don't seem to value him much.

Cadillac Williams could probably be had for a late 2nd rounder and has more upside than anyone after the 1.04 pick IMO.

Roddy White might be easy to get from someone who thinks this was a fluke year. I'd trade anything after 1.04 to get him.

Jeremy Shockey might be available for a mid-late 1st rounder as well.

Edit to add:

Todd Heap, alot of owners have forgotten about him but whenever he's been healthy he's been a top-5 guy.

Trent Edwards might not be a bad QB2 to add, he's probably available for a 2nd rounder and he could be really good 1-2 years from now.

Chris Chambers sure looked like he was getting comfortable in SD late in the year. A late1st/early2nd could get him in most leagues and he could be a good WR3 with upside.

LenDale White has more talent than he's given credit for, he's a solid RB2 in non-ppr leagues and Henry isn't as close to him as most think.

 
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Various players, depending on your perspective:

QB: Tarvaris Jackson, Hasselbeck, Vince Young, Leinart, Brady Quinn, Drew Stanton

RB: Chris Henry, Ronnie Brown, Adrian Peterson CHI, Julius Jones, Thomas Jones, Lorenzo Booker

WR: Kevin Curtis, Roddy White, Reggie Brown, Ted Ginn, Sidney Rice, Steve Smith NYG, Jason Hill

TE: Jeremy Shockey, Zach Miller

 
I think MJD will begin to play a much bigger role in JAX next year, and can be had relatively cheap right now. No way Taylor has a repeat of last year at age 32.
I don't think you will get MJD even "relatively" cheap right now, many have him in their top 10.
Yeah... you'll have to send a top 4 pick atleast. He may be worth it too.
He would definitely be worth it. I would trade the #1 overall for Jones-Drew without hesitating for a second. I'd even throw in a bit if I had to. McFadden might look like a beast in college, but his body type is terrible and MJD is already, in my opinion, one of the five to ten most talented RBs in the NFL.
I think MJD will begin to play a much bigger role in JAX next year, and can be had relatively cheap right now. No way Taylor has a repeat of last year at age 32.
I agree that Taylor likely won't do as well. However, MJD owners need to be concerned with how often Taylor gets the ball. Anytime he carries it, it's one less touch for MJD. He got 23-250 touches the past two years . . . and had back to back years with career highs in ypc.
How concerned do they need to be? MJD has been a fantasy RB1 for two straight years while being on the short end of the carry stick. Taylor can still get the lion's share and, as an MJD owner, I won't be concerned, because I'll still be getting RB1 production from my RB2.
 
I moved the 1.12 for LenDale White just the other day.. I think I am pretty happy with it?
I sure would be!In one of my leagues, I have 4 of the first 14 picks and will be looking to wheel and deal (I have the #2 overall pick, but the other three are at 10, 12 and 14 so I will be shopping those - but probably not until closer to the rookie draft).
 
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?

 
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
 
Banger said:
Warhogs said:
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
I got the feeling that he will be replaced this yr or next... totally bust
 
I am in a keep 3 league and have S-Jax, Fitz and Barber III. I also have Ronnie Brown and have seen him as a buy low candidate throughout the thread. Since I am "forced" to sell one of them, I am in a position to probably move him because I do not see how I could get equal value in return for the rest.

I am on the sell side, but are people targeting Brown? Personally I would be a little scared off (injury, new staff, RW returning). Obviously there is a lot of time for things to play out, but I would be curious to see what folks would be willing to pay for him and if selling, what they are getting.

 
I am in a keep 3 league and have S-Jax, Fitz and Barber III. I also have Ronnie Brown and have seen him as a buy low candidate throughout the thread. Since I am "forced" to sell one of them, I am in a position to probably move him because I do not see how I could get equal value in return for the rest.I am on the sell side, but are people targeting Brown? Personally I would be a little scared off (injury, new staff, RW returning). Obviously there is a lot of time for things to play out, but I would be curious to see what folks would be willing to pay for him and if selling, what they are getting.
Honestly... I am waiting till the season starts up. Ronnie isn't going to be 100% when he returns, usually players are return to 100% in their 2nd yr of an ACL tear... so after the Ronnie owner is a little frustrated; that might be the time to make the move.
 
Banger said:
Warhogs said:
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
I got the feeling that he will be replaced this yr or next... totally bust
These are the opinions that made me wonder if he is a buy low. I honestly have not thought about buying him myself but I would be curious what it would take to buy him from a Benson owner right now? If the asking price is low I personally might buy. Nobody had much success running behind that Bears OL last season. Maybe the Bears address that in the off season? He certainly had a great college career. I'm just think the cost may be worth the chance at this point. Lots of ifs but if I can pay a price of a marginal RB3 or a RB4 on a dynasty roster price price maybe I take the chance?
 
Banger said:
Warhogs said:
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
You've just done a great job of outlining the situation of some of the best buy-low RB's I've ever acquired. They ain't buy-low because they look poised. Five months from now they make some key F/A additions along the O-Line, swing the miracle trade for McNabb, a rookie guard has people wondering how he lasted until the 3rd round, the D stays healthy, boom. All of a sudden you're looking like genius in October. It would take a parlay but that's pretty much true with any buy-low candidate.
 
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Some Guys I'm thinking you can trade for cheaply that will be nice additions and add quality depth to your rostersTorry Holt and Bulger... these 2 should rebound from a terrible season; I bet you can get either with a late 1st rder.. you might even be able to steal Bulger of a 2nd.De Williams... should finally get a chance; Foster was awful last yr. The fact that DeWil couldn't topple Foster makes me worryNorwood... made one more yr of experience will bring more PT. Its sounding like Dunn is finally finished.Shockey... Manning has grown up right before our eyes. Shockey will be a part of the offense again when he comes back; especially the "Go Zone". B Jacobs... very talent but injury concerns. Worth the risk IMO.Reggie Bush... I bet the Bush owner is frustrated after last yr; throw them an offer and see where it gets u.J Delhomme... may have one more season in him, was on fire before getting injured. He was dropped in one of my dynasties. He would make a great toss in for a package.
Sorry, but just don't agree on some of these. Not that they aren't worth it, but that they aren't "buy lows".I owned Holt. If 93/1189/7 is a terrible season, then I'll order up a few more "terrible" seasons for my roster. It may be below what he's been used to putting up, but not by much and not nearly enough that I would sell him for anything even remotely low.Likewise for Bush (in a ppr league). I was far from frustrated with him. In fact, I was quite glad I owned him in my PPR league as he was good for 20/week for almost 2/3 of the season.The only one I really agree with on that list is Delhomme who I agree can be had really cheap and is a very solid backup.
 
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Warhogs said:
Banger said:
Warhogs said:
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
I got the feeling that he will be replaced this yr or next... totally bust
These are the opinions that made me wonder if he is a buy low. I honestly have not thought about buying him myself but I would be curious what it would take to buy him from a Benson owner right now? If the asking price is low I personally might buy. Nobody had much success running behind that Bears OL last season. Maybe the Bears address that in the off season? He certainly had a great college career. I'm just think the cost may be worth the chance at this point. Lots of ifs but if I can pay a price of a marginal RB3 or a RB4 on a dynasty roster price price maybe I take the chance?
I think he is a buy low.....altho some may think im biased.
 
Some Guys I'm thinking you can trade for cheaply that will be nice additions and add quality depth to your rostersTorry Holt and Bulger... these 2 should rebound from a terrible season; I bet you can get either with a late 1st rder.. you might even be able to steal Bulger of a 2nd.De Williams... should finally get a chance; Foster was awful last yr. The fact that DeWil couldn't topple Foster makes me worryNorwood... made one more yr of experience will bring more PT. Its sounding like Dunn is finally finished.Shockey... Manning has grown up right before our eyes. Shockey will be a part of the offense again when he comes back; especially the "Go Zone". B Jacobs... very talent but injury concerns. Worth the risk IMO.Reggie Bush... I bet the Bush owner is frustrated after last yr; throw them an offer and see where it gets u.J Delhomme... may have one more season in him, was on fire before getting injured. He was dropped in one of my dynasties. He would make a great toss in for a package.
Sorry, but just don't agree on some of these. Not that they aren't worth it, but that they aren't "buy lows".I owned Holt. If 86/1096/7 is a terrible season, then I'll order up a few more "terrible" seasons for my roster. It may be below what he's been used to putting up, but not by much and not nearly enough that I would sell him for anything even remotely low.Likewise for Bush (in a ppr league). I was far from frustrated with him. In fact, I was quite glad I owned him in my PPR league as he was good for 20/week for almost 2/3 of the season.The only one I really agree with on that list is Delhomme who I agree can be had really cheap and is a very solid backup.
:blackdot: :goodposting: :goodposting: It seems like some are confusing buy-low candidates as anyone who had a slightly below average to poor year by their standards. Maybe it's just the league I'm in but:Holt and Bulger. Their owners in my leagues know there was a plausible explanation for '07. They aren't adjusting their personal values for these two at all. Norwood. As long as he keeps going at 6.0+ a clip and Dunn keeps getting a year older every offseason I see Norwood's upside as pretty transparent. His ADP was 7.01 last year, the highest of any non-starting RB in the league other than MJD and I don't see his ADP slipping from that spot AT ALL this year.And as an MJD owner, I have to agree with the other MJD owner above. You would have to seriously bring the kitchen sink to get him from me in dynasty right now.
 
Banger said:
Warhogs said:
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
You've just done a great job of outlining the situation of some of the best buy-low RB's I've ever acquired. They ain't buy-low because they look poised. Five months from now they make some key F/A additions along the O-Line, swing the miracle trade for McNabb, a rookie guard has people wondering how he lasted until the 3rd round, the D stays healthy, boom. All of a sudden you're looking like genius in October. It would take a parlay but that's pretty much true with any buy-low candidate.
If that were the case I'd certainly re-evaluate the situation. As it stands now I wouldn't touch him.
 
Ronnie Brown is a player I think is a buy low with the Tuna in charge. His owner might have reservations because of the injury. I think it might take more than a late first, but could pay off in spades.

 
Banger said:
Warhogs said:
I have not targeted this guy and he has had a lot of talk about him over the past couple of years but Could Cedric Benson actually be a solid buy low? I really thought he was the safest RB pick in his class and I admit he has just not looked good as a pro. A lot of people are really down on him with good reason but maybe he is actually a buy candidate now?
That's if he has a starting job. If he does, he'll certainly be cheap. Personally, I'd avoid at all costs. His situation in Chicago isn't great (defense isn't dominant, line isn't great, no QB, etc.) and he's shown nothing to me to indicate that he's got the ability to succeed in NFL.
You've just done a great job of outlining the situation of some of the best buy-low RB's I've ever acquired. They ain't buy-low because they look poised. Five months from now they make some key F/A additions along the O-Line, swing the miracle trade for McNabb, a rookie guard has people wondering how he lasted until the 3rd round, the D stays healthy, boom. All of a sudden you're looking like genius in October. It would take a parlay but that's pretty much true with any buy-low candidate.
If that were the case I'd certainly re-evaluate the situation. As it stands now I wouldn't touch him.
But see, that's kind of my point. By the time you've re-evaluated him - so has his current owner (typically). At least that's the way it is in my league. When a guy's situation has changed, so has his value - maybe you've had a different experience in your league.
 
If your team is built to win now, I'd go after Donald Driver. 2 TD season will not happen again, and while Jennings has certainly emerged, Driver should still be good for about 80+, 1100 yds, 5-8 TDs.
i disagree on this one. I think the last time to trade Donald Driver was last year. It's all downhilll from here.
 
QB's

Derek Anderson

Matt Shaub

Matt Leinart

Jason Campbell

Aaron Rogers

RB's

Deangelo Williams

Amhad Bradshaw

Kevin Jones

Michael Bush

WR's

Anthony Gonzalez

Roddy White

Mark Clayton

Chris Henry

Donte Stallworth

 
I am in a keep 3 league and have S-Jax, Fitz and Barber III. I also have Ronnie Brown and have seen him as a buy low candidate throughout the thread. Since I am "forced" to sell one of them, I am in a position to probably move him because I do not see how I could get equal value in return for the rest.I am on the sell side, but are people targeting Brown? Personally I would be a little scared off (injury, new staff, RW returning). Obviously there is a lot of time for things to play out, but I would be curious to see what folks would be willing to pay for him and if selling, what they are getting.
I offered someone Portis for Brown...and they turned it down.
 
After some posts in the LJ tread, LJ may be a buy low canidate. I traded rookie 1.03 for him.
And i traded 1.4 and Selvin Young and got LJ Kolby Smith, C.Davis and MWalker. Im very excited about my deal as well. Already had SJax MBIII and Maroney at rb before the trade. I said i would take a chance on him.
 
I am in a keep 3 league and have S-Jax, Fitz and Barber III. I also have Ronnie Brown and have seen him as a buy low candidate throughout the thread. Since I am "forced" to sell one of them, I am in a position to probably move him because I do not see how I could get equal value in return for the rest.

I am on the sell side, but are people targeting Brown? Personally I would be a little scared off (injury, new staff, RW returning). Obviously there is a lot of time for things to play out, but I would be curious to see what folks would be willing to pay for him and if selling, what they are getting.
I offered someone Portis for Brown...and they turned it down.
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Some Guys I'm thinking you can trade for cheaply that will be nice additions and add quality depth to your rostersTorry Holt and Bulger... these 2 should rebound from a terrible season; I bet you can get either with a late 1st rder.. you might even be able to steal Bulger of a 2nd.De Williams... should finally get a chance; Foster was awful last yr. The fact that DeWil couldn't topple Foster makes me worryNorwood... made one more yr of experience will bring more PT. Its sounding like Dunn is finally finished.Shockey... Manning has grown up right before our eyes. Shockey will be a part of the offense again when he comes back; especially the "Go Zone". B Jacobs... very talent but injury concerns. Worth the risk IMO.Reggie Bush... I bet the Bush owner is frustrated after last yr; throw them an offer and see where it gets u.J Delhomme... may have one more season in him, was on fire before getting injured. He was dropped in one of my dynasties. He would make a great toss in for a package.
Ginn, Jr , James Jones, Earnest Graham, Sproles,Bryant Johnson ( soon-to-be F/a)
 

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