Nanny Refuses to Leave Family's Home (1 Viewer)

[deep vacuum]

I need me a live in nanny job

The people 2 doors down from me have one. Makes the whole thing super uncomfortable with everyone. She goes basically everywhere with them. Makes you wonder if she is also a side piece.

I dont want to be no side piece

Nobody puts MC Gas Money in the corner.

 

[DiStefano]

Lol... disappeared. Wink wink nudge nudge

Personally, I think you're the perp. But you've done your bit for society.

 

[matuski]

Pick her up, drop her on the porch, lock the doors.

 

[Guest]

In a vague way, it reminds me of the Typhoid Mary story. Woman knew damn well she was killing people as a kitchen cook, but kept hiding her identity, going from new job to new job and infecting new people - always refusing to acknowledge that she was in the wrong.

Eventually, she was kept in permanent quarantine. Some people really just need to be removed from society.

That said, hoping that someone didn't see fit to "remove her from society."

 

[Christo]

She's sleeping in her car.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Pick her up, drop her on the porch, lock the doors.

Is she Dino?

 

[GroveDiesel]

I haven't actually read the articles about this. Is it possible the family made the whole thing up and the woman never existed to begin with?

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I haven't actually read the articles about this. Is it possible the family made the whole thing up and the woman never existed to begin with?

No.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Im guessing the nanny had a breakdown and commited suicide

 

[DaVinci]

She was really the ex-husband in drag.

 

[The Big Guy]

Maybe she is in the basement hanging out with that little missing kid.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

General Malaise, you are our only hope.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

why don't the remove all the food from their home, turn off the water and wait her out. Put the family in a hotel while rotating shifts until she leaves. Change the locks..Problem solved. It is a PIA but i would rather not have to deal with her being there.

Generally you can't self-help an eviction.

You'd also be giving up physical possession of the property, likely granting her even greater legal status and perhaps at least an argument to take the property through adverse possession

No.

 

[Fennis]

She was really the ex-husband in drag.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnv0x3Oec41qd150io1_500.gif

 

[Koya]

why don't the remove all the food from their home, turn off the water and wait her out. Put the family in a hotel while rotating shifts until she leaves. Change the locks..Problem solved. It is a PIA but i would rather not have to deal with her being there.

Generally you can't self-help an eviction.

You'd also be giving up physical possession of the property, likely granting her even greater legal status and perhaps at least an argument to take the property through adverse possession

No.

Expand a little if you don't mind? Can't someone take hold of property and certain rights if you willingly leave the premises for some period?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Depends upon the state. This is Cali, correct? IIRC, a very tenant friendly state and she is now probably a tenant, legally.

Don't make it right but it could make it difficult.

It's California. Property owners can't do ####. Tenants control everything.

Guy I knew had a condo, then got married and moved into a house. Real estate was so down, he decided to rent out the condo instead of trying to sell it. Tenants moved in, paid the deposit and first month's, but then never paid rent again. Just up and decided they're not going to do it. Told the guy they knew the law & their rights and he could go through the legal process of eviction if he wanted. Last I heard, it was 18 months and they were still living there rent free. Now the market's recovered and he still can't get them out of the place to sell it.

It's easy to evict a tenant in California. If she is current on rent, you give her a 30-day notice (assuming it's month-to-month). If she's behind on rent, you give her a 3-day notice. (In this case, once she quit being a nanny, arguably a 3-day notice should work, but I'm not going to try to figure out the answer without being able to bill someone. Let's say a 30-day notice is appropriate, just to be safe.)

Once the notice period expires, you file an eviction proceeding and you get a trial date in about 14 days. You win at trial and have the sheriff remove her. (In most civil cases, the defendant has 30 days to answer the complaint and then you get a trial date about 12 months out. But everything is super fast-tracked for evictions.) There are things she can do, like moving to dismiss the complaint, that will add a little time, but typically just a few weeks.

She probably won't answer the complaint, and if she does, she probably won't show up for trial. But even if she does, what's she going to say? The whole thing should be fairly quick and easy -- unless the landlord does something stupid like shutting off her power or blasting heavy metal at night. That would complicate things.

 

[Christo]

why don't the remove all the food from their home, turn off the water and wait her out. Put the family in a hotel while rotating shifts until she leaves. Change the locks..Problem solved. It is a PIA but i would rather not have to deal with her being there.

Generally you can't self-help an eviction.

You'd also be giving up physical possession of the property, likely granting her even greater legal status and perhaps at least an argument to take the property through adverse possession

No.

Expand a little if you don't mind? Can't someone take hold of property and certain rights if you willingly leave the premises for some period?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=adverse+possession

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

why don't the remove all the food from their home, turn off the water and wait her out. Put the family in a hotel while rotating shifts until she leaves. Change the locks..Problem solved. It is a PIA but i would rather not have to deal with her being there.

Generally you can't self-help an eviction.

You'd also be giving up physical possession of the property, likely granting her even greater legal status and perhaps at least an argument to take the property through adverse possession

No.

Expand a little if you don't mind? Can't someone take hold of property and certain rights if you willingly leave the premises for some period?

It's not about willingly leaving. It's about failing to kick her out (whether or not you leave).

In California, the "some period" for adverse possession is five years. (In most states it's more like twenty.) And not only does she have to occupy the property for those five years, but she also must pay property taxes on it during that time. That's not going to happen.

Moving to a hotel for a while is not going to help the tenant with an adverse possession claim.

 

[Godsbrother]

Haven't read through the entire thread yet but what a MILF!

 

[Koya]

why don't the remove all the food from their home, turn off the water and wait her out. Put the family in a hotel while rotating shifts until she leaves. Change the locks..Problem solved. It is a PIA but i would rather not have to deal with her being there.

Generally you can't self-help an eviction.

You'd also be giving up physical possession of the property, likely granting her even greater legal status and perhaps at least an argument to take the property through adverse possession

No.

Expand a little if you don't mind? Can't someone take hold of property and certain rights if you willingly leave the premises for some period?

It's not about willingly leaving. It's about failing to kick her out (whether or not you leave).

In California, the "some period" for adverse possession is five years. (In most states it's more like twenty.) And not only does she have to occupy the property for those five years, but she also must pay property taxes on it during that time. That's not going to happen.

Moving to a hotel for a while is not going to help the tenant with an adverse possession claim.

Appreciated.

 

[Keerock]

I need me a live in nanny job

The people 2 doors down from me have one. Makes the whole thing super uncomfortable with everyone. She goes basically everywhere with them. Makes you wonder if she is also a side piece.

She hot?

On the asian scale a 7. If you are way into asians maybe an 8.

So a 12 on the johnycakes scale?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

The Nanny is moving out...maybe

 

[tonydead]

This is on 20/20 tonight. Nanny speaking out.

 

[Sarnoff]

The Nanny from Hell is an American Hero

As the story of the so-called "Nanny From Hell" continues to unfold, it becomes clearer and clearer that America is a nation of cringing dupes and shameless predators, and that most of the predators are also dupes. The coverage, very much including this site's own coverage, has been dedicated to the peculiar notion that the villain in the story is Diane Stretton, the so-called "nanny" who has been refusing to leave the house of her employers.

Take a moment to look at the bigger metaphoric or metaphysical picture. What is Hell, anyway, that we are supposed to believe Diane Stretton has come from it? Hell is the place where sinners get the torment they deserve.

So it goes for the Bracamonte family of Upland, California. The Bracamontes decided they needed a live-in servant to help care for their children, but they did not want to pay wages for that labor. Through some combination of greed, stupidity, and self-regard, they believed that in lieu of paying for the work, they could simply give the person they hired meals and a place in their house to sleep.

Now, to their shock, the Bracamontes have discovered that the person who initially agreed to work on their exploitative and illegal terms is unreasonable. They are so upset that they have gone to the press with this problem: that the person they unlawfully brought into their home, as an unpaid servant, now will neither work as their servant nor leave their house.

What a terrible problem for the Bracamonte family to have. Now they say they are afraid in their own home, because this person they were ripping off—this marginal and allegedly disturbed person they thought should be caring for their children—won't go away.

Good for Stretton. How sadly fallen is this country when crooks like the Bracamontes can put themselves forth as sympathetic figures? Why, because they own a house? Because they "created" a "job"? The Nanny From Hell is an avatar of our collective future, the symbol of a nation that screws people remorselessly and pretends it's business as usual. What do we expect will happen, after "entitlement reform" and "pension restructuring," when everyone whose benefits have been looted reaches retirement age? There will be desperate and unyielding old people lurking in every closet of the house. And we will all deserve it.

 

[DiStefano]

The Nanny from Hell is an American Hero

As the story of the so-called "Nanny From Hell" continues to unfold, it becomes clearer and clearer that America is a nation of cringing dupes and shameless predators, and that most of the predators are also dupes. The coverage, very much including this site's own coverage, has been dedicated to the peculiar notion that the villain in the story is Diane Stretton, the so-called "nanny" who has been refusing to leave the house of her employers.

Take a moment to look at the bigger metaphoric or metaphysical picture. What is Hell, anyway, that we are supposed to believe Diane Stretton has come from it? Hell is the place where sinners get the torment they deserve.

So it goes for the Bracamonte family of Upland, California. The Bracamontes decided they needed a live-in servant to help care for their children, but they did not want to pay wages for that labor. Through some combination of greed, stupidity, and self-regard, they believed that in lieu of paying for the work, they could simply give the person they hired meals and a place in their house to sleep.

Now, to their shock, the Bracamontes have discovered that the person who initially agreed to work on their exploitative and illegal terms is unreasonable. They are so upset that they have gone to the press with this problem: that the person they unlawfully brought into their home, as an unpaid servant, now will neither work as their servant nor leave their house.

What a terrible problem for the Bracamonte family to have. Now they say they are afraid in their own home, because this person they were ripping off—this marginal and allegedly disturbed person they thought should be caring for their children—won't go away.

Good for Stretton. How sadly fallen is this country when crooks like the Bracamontes can put themselves forth as sympathetic figures? Why, because they own a house? Because they "created" a "job"? The Nanny From Hell is an avatar of our collective future, the symbol of a nation that screws people remorselessly and pretends it's business as usual. What do we expect will happen, after "entitlement reform" and "pension restructuring," when everyone whose benefits have been looted reaches retirement age? There will be desperate and unyielding old people lurking in every closet of the house. And we will all deserve it.

It never would have happened if Mr. Bracamonte had kept his wife barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.

 

[Christo]

The Nanny from Hell is an American Hero

As the story of the so-called "Nanny From Hell" continues to unfold, it becomes clearer and clearer that America is a nation of cringing dupes and shameless predators, and that most of the predators are also dupes. The coverage, very much including this site's own coverage, has been dedicated to the peculiar notion that the villain in the story is Diane Stretton, the so-called "nanny" who has been refusing to leave the house of her employers.

Take a moment to look at the bigger metaphoric or metaphysical picture. What is Hell, anyway, that we are supposed to believe Diane Stretton has come from it? Hell is the place where sinners get the torment they deserve.

So it goes for the Bracamonte family of Upland, California. The Bracamontes decided they needed a live-in servant to help care for their children, but they did not want to pay wages for that labor. Through some combination of greed, stupidity, and self-regard, they believed that in lieu of paying for the work, they could simply give the person they hired meals and a place in their house to sleep.

Now, to their shock, the Bracamontes have discovered that the person who initially agreed to work on their exploitative and illegal terms is unreasonable. They are so upset that they have gone to the press with this problem: that the person they unlawfully brought into their home, as an unpaid servant, now will neither work as their servant nor leave their house.

What a terrible problem for the Bracamonte family to have. Now they say they are afraid in their own home, because this person they were ripping off—this marginal and allegedly disturbed person they thought should be caring for their children—won't go away.

Good for Stretton. How sadly fallen is this country when crooks like the Bracamontes can put themselves forth as sympathetic figures? Why, because they own a house? Because they "created" a "job"? The Nanny From Hell is an avatar of our collective future, the symbol of a nation that screws people remorselessly and pretends it's business as usual. What do we expect will happen, after "entitlement reform" and "pension restructuring," when everyone whose benefits have been looted reaches retirement age? There will be desperate and unyielding old people lurking in every closet of the house. And we will all deserve it.

While it may be illegal, I have yet to see anything that demonstrates that it is exploitative. And she was not an "unpaid servant." Room and board is value. The state has just decided it doesn't like that type of arrangement because it doesn't get its cut.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The Nanny from Hell is an American Hero

As the story of the so-called "Nanny From Hell" continues to unfold, it becomes clearer and clearer that America is a nation of cringing dupes and shameless predators, and that most of the predators are also dupes. The coverage, very much including this site's own coverage, has been dedicated to the peculiar notion that the villain in the story is Diane Stretton, the so-called "nanny" who has been refusing to leave the house of her employers.

Take a moment to look at the bigger metaphoric or metaphysical picture. What is Hell, anyway, that we are supposed to believe Diane Stretton has come from it? Hell is the place where sinners get the torment they deserve.

So it goes for the Bracamonte family of Upland, California. The Bracamontes decided they needed a live-in servant to help care for their children, but they did not want to pay wages for that labor. Through some combination of greed, stupidity, and self-regard, they believed that in lieu of paying for the work, they could simply give the person they hired meals and a place in their house to sleep.

Now, to their shock, the Bracamontes have discovered that the person who initially agreed to work on their exploitative and illegal terms is unreasonable. They are so upset that they have gone to the press with this problem: that the person they unlawfully brought into their home, as an unpaid servant, now will neither work as their servant nor leave their house.

What a terrible problem for the Bracamonte family to have. Now they say they are afraid in their own home, because this person they were ripping off—this marginal and allegedly disturbed person they thought should be caring for their children—won't go away.

Good for Stretton. How sadly fallen is this country when crooks like the Bracamontes can put themselves forth as sympathetic figures? Why, because they own a house? Because they "created" a "job"? The Nanny From Hell is an avatar of our collective future, the symbol of a nation that screws people remorselessly and pretends it's business as usual. What do we expect will happen, after "entitlement reform" and "pension restructuring," when everyone whose benefits have been looted reaches retirement age? There will be desperate and unyielding old people lurking in every closet of the house. And we will all deserve it.

I don't see how this makes the nanny any more sympathetic. She agreed to the illegal deal clearly with the intent of exploiting them and seems to have a history of all sorts of shenanigans.

Both sides in this story just seem to be rather unlikeable.