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I would think their age would answer your dynasty Q
Burleson is only 25? You sure? Wow did I guess his age wrong
Holmgren loves Obomanu, and has been grooming him for two (?) years now. I would think he's the good play. However, he is still a bit raw.
Mind if I ask what you're basing this on?
Neither. Bobby Engram is the guy you want.
Comments made by Holmgren per friends in Seattle.
I've heard similar things which is why I even brought this up. It seems that those who know about Obomanu rave about him and his skills, but it could simply be the same hype we hear about lots of obscure players. But, at the same time, it seems that the Seattle coaching staff really does like the kid. I hope others who really know about him or have seen him play can help out here because he could be a really good pickup if that's indeed the case.
Later my be too late. I like to act, not react, as do most others here. Unfortunately, probably won't have an answer for a few weeks as you said, but trying to figure out which is the better "gamble" and bring up awareness for Obomanu as I'm sure there are a few out there that don't even know about him.
When choosing to gamble on someone who's done it before and someone who's never done it, do yourself a favor and take the guy who's 25 years old and done it before.That being said, we still won't know for a few weeks.
Are these close personal friends of the coach? Do you have a link to his quotes on a blog or some beat writer's article? I'm curious because I follow the team closely. Very closely. I daily read the blogs of all three local beat writers and every column they write (Tacoma New Tribune, Seattle Times, and Seattle PI). I've never got the impression that Holmgren "loves" Obomanu more so than any other receiver in Seattle. Was curious to read about what I've missed. Perhaps I've just interpreted his comments differently.
I'm beginning to think this myself. Engram may be the guy that Hass has the most comfort level with of any of the WRs currently on the roster(including Hackett). Burleson and Obawhatsit could potentially be a detriment to each other. Cycled in and out. Who knows? Engram and his ancient hands will always be in the slot on third downs though..Burleson is probably the guy to grab if you're hoping to hit the home run, I suppose, but Engram is probably the guy that will get his 4-5 catches a game(Whether what he does with those is worth a roster spot for you is another discussion.).
If I had links, don't you think I would have posted them? As I said, I heard from friends - how close they are to Holmgren, I'm not sure. Everything they've told me before has been spot on...
I agree - Hasselbeck will go back to ole faithful with hackett gone, though I think Burleson would have more FF worth as the WR2 if he is targeted as such.The fact that Wallace will be moved into a slash role, and the number of WRs on this team make me very leery right now of wasting a roster spot on any of them outside Engram, whose the only one with an unchanged role on the team.in fact, I think Hackett's injury bumps Pollard and Engram, and maybe Branch, but that the Seattle WR2 just became a rotating door with inconsistency as the norm.
That can't be right. I drafted him as a rookie in 2003 in my Dynasty league, maybe I am wrong, but I doubt he was 21 at the time.
I thought I'd read speculation somewhere that the Frye acquisition would provide some comfort assigning Wallace to punt return duties, in turn freeing Burleson for a greater role as starting WR. Presumably Wallace would see some WR time but he'd largely be freeing another guy to be a mainstay WR. Is that inaccurate?
DOB August 19, 1981. Therefore he just turned 26.
???I graduated college at 21 years old.
Don't any of you guys have the Google yet?
This is Obu's 2nd year. He was the last pick of the draft last year, spent most of the season on the practice squad and was called up for the last 2-3 games, though never activated for the games.I haven't heard anything about Holmgren loving him more than any other young receiver, but that he was very happy Ben was still available when they got to their last pick and ecstatic that Ben cleared waivers and was available for the practice squad.Burleson was pushing Hackett for time, though Hackett got the start. I don't think Obu is any more than the WR4 on the team, though I think he'll be a very good NFL WR eventually. But if Nate continues to play like he has in the preseason there's no reason to believe that Ben will overtake him or significantly cut into his reps. They will however go more 4 WR sets than they did vs TB. They only had 4 WRs dressed for the game and once Hackett went down that formation was unavailable. I think he'll get some good playing time, and could possibly do quite well, as we saw with the Morris TD, Hass will throw to the open guy or the guy with the best matchup. But FF-wise he is little more than a lottery ticket bye week fill in. Burleson was close to getting the starting nod and has a good hold on the position as long as he keeps a good hold on the ball.
You're wrong. Burleson is the split end and Engram will remain the #3.
You're kidding yourself if you think Engram moves to split end. He IS the slot receiver and will always be. He's not a big play threat, he's a chain mover and is Hass' security blanket. Burleson will be the starting split end, Engram will stay in the slot. They tried moving him out a few years ago but he doesn't do well as a primary receiver. His strength is finding the soft spot of a zone and settling in for a 12 yard gain and first down. On occasion he gets a long pass but it's usually over the middle with little YAC becasue he's not a burner, not an end zone leaper and not a home run threat. But he will ALWAYS be the slot guy for Hass. If you don't know that, you don't know anything about the Seahwks WR situation. Period.Not to mention the fact that Burleson was already slated to share time at the position, why would he not just step in as the starter? Engram might be the better pickup for ppr leagues but otherwise Burleson is the pickup.
one thing I've realized about WR's in Seattle....flip a coin. Engram has been Matt's favorite target, Burleson has great YAC ability, Obmanu has looked quick, and shown better hands than Nate.
Did it yesterday. High ankle sprains can take a while. Hackett will probably still be on my WW in 3-4 weeks. If Burleson shows something, forget about Hackett. If he shows nothing, cut him then and get Hackett a week or 2 before he comes back.
I did for Burleson.The Goose is Loose said:
I don't know. I don't know you. I see people post all sorts of hyperbole without links and/or any support. I'm not saying this is you, but I'm trying to objectively analyze the situation. I'm sure you understand that "I hear from friends" doesn't carry a lot of weight. Nothing personal, that's just reality.switz said:
Perhaps you could tell us who these friends are. Do they post here at the FBG boards? Live in the Seattle area? Diehard Seahawks homers?
Sorry wasn't trying to be difficult. After you've been on these boards a while, you get tired of the
I do realize that "I hear from friends" doesn't carry a lot of weight - but it is all I have at this time on the issue.
Individuals in the NFL circle, who at times provide me with feedback on specific questions I have, if they feel it won't impact their relationship with other individuals in the NFL circle. If it seems like I'm being intentionally vague, well that's because I am. Their info hasn't always helped me from an FF perspective, because they don't look at things from an FF perspective. But for the most part they've been spot on, and I am confident they wouldn't say anything to me they didn't believe was the truth.
Thanks, switz. I appreciate the response and understand the "vagueness". Makes sense now.
In this case age is 100% irrelevant
