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JohnnyU

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Soreness and tightness in his right elbow. I think the pickup is Matt Guerrier over Jon Rauch.

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i think it is gurrier fwiw.. i already picked em up in a league that has already drafted...

that being said.. if it just scar tissue breaking up... i can't see that as a big deal for nathan... is it?

 
Angry Beavers said:
i think it is gurrier fwiw.. i already picked em up in a league that has already drafted...that being said.. if it just scar tissue breaking up... i can't see that as a big deal for nathan... is it?
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From CBS -News: Twins closer Joe Nathan was removed from Saturday's game against Boston and will return to the Twin Cities on Monday for an MRI on his surgically repaired elbow, reports Scott Miller of CBSSports.com. "We're going to repeat some tests," Twins general manager Bill Smith said Sunday morning. "We want to repeat some tests that we had done on him in August. Those were our baseline tests, and when we repeat those [and compare], then we'll have a much, much better idea of where it's at." Nathan, following a season in which he had 47 saves, had surgery to clean out the elbow in October. Noted orthopedist Dr. James Andrews removed two bone spurs and some bone chips, and Nathan said Saturday, in describing his elbow as "achy" and saying he felt "tightness", that doctors had warned him he would have moments like that along his recovery.Analysis: Nathan saved 47 games for the Twins last season and since 2004 has averaged 41 saves per year with a 1.87 ERA, 22 wins and just 12 losses. His WHIP has always been extremely good as well. An injury to Nathan would shake things up for the Twins, for the AL Central and especially for Fantasy owners. Stay tuned to news on the MRI Monday. This one could have major repercussions.
 
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Looks like TheInsidePitch.com changed from Guerrier to Rauch as 1st in line in the last few hours. Talk about not holding to your guns, or have they found out something we don't? Maybe it's neither. How about Mijares as a sleeper?

 
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JJP said:
Under 85 wins for the Twinkies looks like easy money if Nathan is out any length of time.
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why? have the Royals and Indians switched divisions?Closer is the most overrated position in baseball, imho. Sure, a good one is worth a few wins over the course of a season, but just a few.
 
I think Rauch is the favorite, since he's got some history as a closer.

Also a trade for Wood, Bell, or Frasor is a possibility.

 
ceo3west said:
Read an article today that mentioned Liriano would be a great fit, can't say I disagree.
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True, but kind of a waste. Looks like Liriano may be ready to resume being a really good starter again...more valuable and harder to find than a decent closer.
 
According to USA Today's Bob Nightengale, the Twins have been scouting Padres closer Heath Bell for a possible trade.

San Diego's demands were awfully high for the 32-year-old closer last season and it's doubtful they've come down. But if the Twins are willing to pay the price in prospects, they'll secure themselves one of the game's best ninth-inning men to fill in for the injured Joe Nathan. Bell compiled a 2.71 ERA, 1.12 WHIP and 42 saves in 68 appearances last season. Mar. 19 - 10:23 am et

Might want to go pickup Adams. Also, Gregerson is pretty good too. I think Adams is the guy to get first however.

 
MLB Trade Rumors

Heath Bell's Trade Value

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [March 19 at 4:59pm CST]

4:59pm: Former Padres GM Kevin Towers told Jim Bowden of FOX Sports that he would ask for Aaron Hicks, Ben Revere or Angel Morales from the Twins in return for Bell if he were still running the Padres (Twitter link). Baseball America ranked the three outfielders first, fifth and eighth among Twins prospects heading into the season.

FRIDAY, 1:34pm: Whether it happens now or in July, the Padres are likely to entertain trade offers for their All-Star closer. Heath Bell has value and the Padres don't appear ready to contend for a playoff spot so GM Jed Hoyer will presumably consider trading the right-hander. The Twins are eyeing Bell, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today and more teams will want relievers by late July.

Bell compares favorably to the group of relievers that signed the biggest free agent contracts this offseason. He had a lower walk rate (3.1 BB/9) and more saves (42) than Jose Valverde, Brandon Lyon, Fernando Rodney and Mike Gonzalez and posted a higher strikeout rate than everyone except Gonzalez (Bell: 10.2 K/9, Gonzalez: 10.9 K/9).

Valverde, Lyon, Rodney and Gonzalez all signed multi-year deals worth $11MM or more, but Bell makes just $4MM this year. Next year, he's in line for a raise via arbitration if, as expected, his club tenders him a deal. Bell's ability and salary make him a valuable commodity on the trade market, but it's not clear what that translates into for the Padres.

When the Orioles traded George Sherrill last summer, they were working with a similar player. Sherrill was making less ($2.75MM) and the Dodgers acquired him midseason, but he was nonetheless effective, cheap and controllable through 2011, like Bell is now.

The Orioles acquired Josh Bell - now ranked by Baseball America as the organization's number two prospect - in the Sherrill trade. The third base prospect has "above-average power and a good approach" and projects to be Baltimore's third baseman before long, according to BA. Given their closer's contract status and ability, the Padres have every reason to ask for a top prospect in any trade.
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Indications are that the Twins are compiling a list of closers if they decide to look outside the organization. But their approach, for now, is to look at in-house candidates. The Twins are expected to use the first several weeks of the season to see how righthanders Jon Rauch and Matt Guerrier and lefthander Jose Mijares fare.

If that doesn't work, then they could start shopping.

Meanwhile, Twins closer Joe Nathan will play catch sometime this weekend to test his elbow and see if there's any chance he could pitch this season.

minneapolis star & tribune

 
Gopher State said:
Indications are that the Twins are compiling a list of closers if they decide to look outside the organization. But their approach, for now, is to look at in-house candidates. The Twins are expected to use the first several weeks of the season to see how righthanders Jon Rauch and Matt Guerrier and lefthander Jose Mijares fare.If that doesn't work, then they could start shopping.Meanwhile, Twins closer Joe Nathan will play catch sometime this weekend to test his elbow and see if there's any chance he could pitch this season.minneapolis star & tribune
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If those are the 3 they're looking at they might as well start looking outside the organization. If they were smart they would convert Liriano to a closer. That would do two things, it would give them a dominate closer, and it would probably help prevent future injury to Liriano.
 
JohnnyU said:
Gopher State said:
Indications are that the Twins are compiling a list of closers if they decide to look outside the organization. But their approach, for now, is to look at in-house candidates. The Twins are expected to use the first several weeks of the season to see how righthanders Jon Rauch and Matt Guerrier and lefthander Jose Mijares fare.If that doesn't work, then they could start shopping.Meanwhile, Twins closer Joe Nathan will play catch sometime this weekend to test his elbow and see if there's any chance he could pitch this season.minneapolis star & tribune
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If those are the 3 they're looking at they might as well start looking outside the organization. If they were smart they would convert Liriano to a closer. That would do two things, it would give them a dominate closer, and it would probably help prevent future injury to Liriano.
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Liriano has been dominating since last fall, and I think he's about ready to get back to his rookie year form or at least very close to it. I think you're wasting him if he goes to the pen as he could easily be their best starter as soon as this season.
 
Michael Brown said:
JohnnyU said:
Gopher State said:
Indications are that the Twins are compiling a list of closers if they decide to look outside the organization. But their approach, for now, is to look at in-house candidates. The Twins are expected to use the first several weeks of the season to see how righthanders Jon Rauch and Matt Guerrier and lefthander Jose Mijares fare.If that doesn't work, then they could start shopping.Meanwhile, Twins closer Joe Nathan will play catch sometime this weekend to test his elbow and see if there's any chance he could pitch this season.minneapolis star & tribune
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If those are the 3 they're looking at they might as well start looking outside the organization. If they were smart they would convert Liriano to a closer. That would do two things, it would give them a dominate closer, and it would probably help prevent future injury to Liriano.
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Liriano has been dominating since last fall, and I think he's about ready to get back to his rookie year form or at least very close to it. I think you're wasting him if he goes to the pen as he could easily be their best starter as soon as this season.
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I hear he's throwing that slider more often, and at the same arm angle that hurt his arm previously. They (the Twins) need to make sure they have a handle on that.
 
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Joe Nathan has decided to have Tommy John surgery, which will cost him his 2010 season.

As hopeful as the news had been lately, this was always the most likely outcome. Nathan told reporters that his elbow felt stiff during the much-anticipated game of catch he had with pitching coach Rick Anderson on Sunday. He will miss 2010 but should be back around this time next year, assuming all goes according to plan with his ulnar collateral ligament replacement surgery. The Twins have already been linked to Jason Frasor and Heath Bell, so be prepared for those rumors to begin in earnest. Mar. 21 - 9:30 am et

Source: Kelsie Smith on Twitter

 
Michael Brown said:
Liriano has been dominating since last fall
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This is not true. He threw a grand total of 11 innings in Sept/Oct and the playoffs. He gave up 7 earned runs, walked 8 guys, and gave up 3 home runs.He managed to have 3 good outings in the fall, but they were sandwiched around 3 terrible outings (one of them was a start where he lasted less than 2 innings).
 
the moops said:
Michael Brown said:
Liriano has been dominating since last fall
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This is not true. He threw a grand total of 11 innings in Sept/Oct and the playoffs. He gave up 7 earned runs, walked 8 guys, and gave up 3 home runs.He managed to have 3 good outings in the fall, but they were sandwiched around 3 terrible outings (one of them was a start where he lasted less than 2 innings).
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Sorry -- I wasn't referring to his MLB performance, I was talking about in the Dominican League, which is actually a winter league and not a fall one.0.49 ERA54/7 strikeout to walk ratio in 43.2 IPRegularly hitting 95 mph with his fastball, high 80's sliderI know it wasn't against regular MLB talent but he has followed it up with very nice K numbers this spring and has looked good while doing it. But yes I agree he was getting knocked around regularly last year in the majors.
 
Michael Brown said:
the moops said:
Michael Brown said:
Liriano has been dominating since last fall
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This is not true. He threw a grand total of 11 innings in Sept/Oct and the playoffs. He gave up 7 earned runs, walked 8 guys, and gave up 3 home runs.He managed to have 3 good outings in the fall, but they were sandwiched around 3 terrible outings (one of them was a start where he lasted less than 2 innings).
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Sorry -- I wasn't referring to his MLB performance, I was talking about in the Dominican League, which is actually a winter league and not a fall one.0.49 ERA54/7 strikeout to walk ratio in 43.2 IPRegularly hitting 95 mph with his fastball, high 80's sliderI know it wasn't against regular MLB talent but he has followed it up with very nice K numbers this spring and has looked good while doing it. But yes I agree he was getting knocked around regularly last year in the majors.
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:thumbup: He dominated. Only question is how accurate the guns were on his fastball as it was 3 or 4 mph above his average last season.They've been known to release inflated numbers before.
 
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