NBA 2012-13 Back to the Future League (2 Viewers)

[the moops]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

 

[No. 16]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

We could flip or have rookies be a "separate draft" and be eligible to be drafted only in round 18/19/20 like we did in BABFL.

 

[the moops]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

Well, I am picking at the end of round 3. Picking at the beginning of round 3 sounds a lot better.Convinced?

 

[the moops]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

We could flip or have rookies be a "separate draft" and be eligible to be drafted only in round 18/19/20 like we did in BABFL.

When we drafted those rookies they weren't even drafted in real life yet. Seems to make no sense to have a separate draft for them now.

 

[No. 16]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

We could flip or have rookies be a "separate draft" and be eligible to be drafted only in round 18/19/20 like we did in BABFL.

When we drafted those rookies they weren't even drafted in real life yet. Seems to make no sense to have a separate draft for them now.

Still does. Gives teams who miss out the the for sure elite talent a chance to nab a dynamic rookie to bloster their bench/starting lineup.Teams at the top of the even rounds get first dibs on the rookies and can plan accordingly.

 

[scoobus]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

Well, I am picking at the end of round 3. Picking at the beginning of round 3 sounds a lot better.Convinced?

That's a rock solid argument right there.

 

[coyote5]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

I don't know, if you're starting with James, Durant, Howard, Wade etc; you are starting off with a huge advantage. And the talent drop off is steep so it is difficult to make up. If this was a 12-16 team league or something I'd say, yeah, a simple serpentine probably would work, but this is a 24 (28?) team league. Maybe the WIS scoring format will help mitigate the talent gap I don't know - first time playing in one.

 

[coyote5]

3RR in order for this given the huge drop off in elite talent?

I'm not sure it's worth doing for this. Drafting before the season with no transactions at all makes it sort of a crap shoot anyway. Add in the extra dimension that none of us are Whatifsports basketball experts, I feel like people could do just as well at the end of the draft as getting an elite talent early.I'm open to discussion about it though.

We could flip or have rookies be a "separate draft" and be eligible to be drafted only in round 18/19/20 like we did in BABFL.

When we drafted those rookies they weren't even drafted in real life yet. Seems to make no sense to have a separate draft for them now.

Still does. Gives teams who miss out the the for sure elite talent a chance to nab a dynamic rookie to bloster their bench/starting lineup.Teams at the top of the even rounds get first dibs on the rookies and can plan accordingly.

Made a lot more sense in a dynasty format. In a one and done format it's not such a big bonus and it's certainly not making up for the elite talent loss. This wasn't a James, Wade, Anthony type draft.

 

[Spartans Rule]

We should've had this argument before everyone knew their draft spot. Now we're all biased.

FWIW, we did a WIS league using the 05-06 season because they had a free team promotion. Serpentine draft. I won from the 23rd pick.

 

[jomar]

I have now attempted to do this 3 times, from 3 different computers. My first roll was 561. My second roll was 704. My third roll was 166. None of the rolls went through. I'm following your instructions. At this point I give up.If you want to roll for me, that's fine. I will trust you. I really don't care where I draft.

+1 My first roll was great so I was kinda hoping that eventually turned up, but go ahead and roll me a number Tre. I don't really care where I pick anyway and rolling is proving to be a pain.

+2I tried a number of times last night and again this morning, with no emails coming through. go ahead and roll for me but unlike these guys, I do care where I pick, so roll me as low as possible.

Whoa, how about a 38?1d1000, rolled once.Roll set 1Die rolls: 38Roll subtotal: 38Roll total: 38

you're the man, TRE.

 

[jomar]

You people that can't get your rolls to work aren't all using yahoo email addresses are you?

mine was a yahoo address

 

[No. 16]

We should've had this argument before everyone knew their draft spot. Now we're all biased.FWIW, we did a WIS league using the 05-06 season because they had a free team promotion. Serpentine draft. I won from the 23rd pick.

Yah I don't really care much. Just offered a solution. Would rather drafting began.Is there a clock?

 

[scoobus]

We should've had this argument before everyone knew their draft spot. Now we're all biased.FWIW, we did a WIS league using the 05-06 season because they had a free team promotion. Serpentine draft. I won from the 23rd pick.

That's what gave me the idea for this one. You had Melo right?

 

[scoobus]

You people that can't get your rolls to work aren't all using yahoo email addresses are you?

mine was a yahoo address

mine wasn't

 

[Gr00vus]

I won from the 23rd pick.

Look at me - I'm an elite WISser!

 

[Spartans Rule]

We should've had this argument before everyone knew their draft spot. Now we're all biased.FWIW, we did a WIS league using the 05-06 season because they had a free team promotion. Serpentine draft. I won from the 23rd pick.

That's what gave me the idea for this one. You had Melo right?

Yep.The thread for that league is actually still in the FFA.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I won from the 23rd pick.

Look at me - I'm an elite WISser!

 

[No. 16]

Is there anyway to access the player ratings right now or do you have to pay $15?

 

[scoobus]

Is there anyway to access the player ratings right now or do you have to pay $15?

My link

 

[Spartans Rule]

Is there anyway to access the player ratings right now or do you have to pay $15?

Once you make an account there, you can go build an exhibition team for free. That gives you access to the full database of stats from past seasons.

 

[JMon348]

We should've had this argument before everyone knew their draft spot. Now we're all biased.FWIW, we did a WIS league using the 05-06 season because they had a free team promotion. Serpentine draft. I won from the 23rd pick.

I got swept in the Western Finals by a team I had a 7-1 regular season against.ETA: I think I was the only one to have both my teams make the playoffs!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

How about a switching in the 5th instead of the 3rd? I'm middlish, so I have no dog in this fight, but the 3rd round seems a bit much.

Really hate the rookie idea.

 

[scoobus]

How about a switching in the 5th instead of the 3rd? I'm middlish, so I have no dog in this fight, but the 3rd round seems a bit much.Really hate the rookie idea.

Works for me.We ready to start this thing yet or what?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

How about a switching in the 5th instead of the 3rd? I'm middlish, so I have no dog in this fight, but the 3rd round seems a bit much.Really hate the rookie idea.

Works for me.We ready to start this thing yet or what?

I think we need 2 more rolls.

 

[Spartans Rule]

How about a switching in the 5th instead of the 3rd? I'm middlish, so I have no dog in this fight, but the 3rd round seems a bit much.Really hate the rookie idea.

If it's put to a vote I'd go for standard serpentine, but I wouldn't fight a 5th round reversal.

 

[No. 16]

Full and combined seasons from 2012-13. No salary cap, no clones, 15 man roster (I think).

Just to clarify.. if you draft a player you OWN that player's full season and/or combined seasons if they are traded?Also is there a draft clock or are we going on an honor system?

 

[scoobus]

Full and combined seasons from 2012-13. No salary cap, no clones, 15 man roster (I think).

Just to clarify.. if you draft a player you OWN that player's full season and/or combined seasons if they are traded?Also is there a draft clock or are we going on an honor system?

If they're traded you have to use their full season, no partials.I'm assuming there will be a clock, especially with the season less than a month away.

 

[scoobus]

How about a switching in the 5th instead of the 3rd? I'm middlish, so I have no dog in this fight, but the 3rd round seems a bit much.Really hate the rookie idea.

Works for me.We ready to start this thing yet or what?

I think we need 2 more rolls.

PMed Arizona Ron. I'd PM TU but I don't think he ever checks his PMs.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I texted TUP, I imagine he'll have me roll for him.

 

[rodg12]

I'd vote just straight serpentine.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Full and combined seasons from 2012-13. No salary cap, no clones, 15 man roster (I think).

Just to clarify.. if you draft a player you OWN that player's full season and/or combined seasons if they are traded?Also is there a draft clock or are we going on an honor system?

Yeah, no partial seasons...either full season or if traded "combined" season.We'll do a two hour clock on Monday. What do we usually do for hours? 9am-6pm for the drafter's local time?

As soon as all rolls are in, we'll start with no clock. That will give everyone time to prepare and see we've started.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

1. Jomar 382. Goat Herders 713. jag_player 854. Juxtatarot 965. Arsenal of Doom 1196. Yo Mama 1227. Spartans Rule 2398. Rodg12 3089. Chemical X 33010. Kraft 39711. AcerFC 48312. cheese (warm body)49913. Gr00vus 55214. Tremendous Upside 59515. TRE 69516. No. 16 75517. 8ebok24 78218. Frosty 79619. Moops 79820. Scoobus 83221. Kev0429 88522. Coyote5 98923. Timschochet 1000Arizona Ron

 

[Gr00vus]

Can we be a little lenient/generous with the clock thing? We're moving next week and I don't know that I'll be able to keep pace with the draft if it goes rapidly. I'd say I'd get lists out, but I probably won't have time to assemble them.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Can we be a little lenient/generous with the clock thing? We're moving next week and I don't know that I'll be able to keep pace with the draft if it goes rapidly. I'd say I'd get lists out, but I probably won't have time to assemble them.

Can I stext you?

 

[No. 16]

Can we be a little lenient/generous with the clock thing? We're moving next week and I don't know that I'll be able to keep pace with the draft if it goes rapidly. I'd say I'd get lists out, but I probably won't have time to assemble them.

Agree.In the BABF draft there was no clock for most of the time (or else a 12 hour clock) and we got to round 15 (30 teams) in about 1 month. I'd be happy with a generous clock for the first 8 rounds at least and then you speed things up at the end depending on the time.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

We have 2 clock whiners, anyone else?

 

[Arizona Ron]

1d1000, rolled once.

Roll set 1

Die rolls: 244

Roll subtotal: 244

Roll total: 244

 

[coyote5]

So will we need to actually join WIS for this? If so, what product? I see a SIM league basketball for $9.95. What is the $15 thing we're talking about??

 

[scoobus]

So will we need to actually join WIS for this? If so, what product? I see a SIM league basketball for $9.95. What is the $15 thing we're talking about??

Yeah I think it's the $10 one; you won't need to sign up until after the season though.

 

[Spartans Rule]

So will we need to actually join WIS for this? If so, what product? I see a SIM league basketball for $9.95. What is the $15 thing we're talking about??

It's $10. I think baseball costs around $15 and that's where that number is coming from.

 

[Yo Mama]

I vote serpentine

 

[Tremendous Upside]

1d1000, rolled once.

Roll set 1

Die rolls: 353

Roll subtotal: 353

Roll total: 353

 

[Frostillicus]

I'm going to suck at this.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm going to suck at this.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

1d1000, rolled once.Roll set 1Die rolls: 353Roll subtotal: 353Roll total: 353

Not received. Surprise! Try sending to wisruthroll@gmail.com only - don't send to yourself as well.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So will we need to actually join WIS for this? If so, what product? I see a SIM league basketball for $9.95. What is the $15 thing we're talking about??

We won't need to join until the end of the basketball season. Good question.I can set us up a roto league to track our rosters/players and I'll need emails for that to invite everyone.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

1d1000, rolled once.

Roll set 1

Die rolls: 595

Roll subtotal: 595

Roll total: 595

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

1d1000, rolled once.Roll set 1Die rolls: 595Roll subtotal: 595Roll total: 595

Thanks. Confirmed.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

1d1000, rolled once.Roll set 1Die rolls: 244Roll subtotal: 244Roll total: 244

Same deal for you. Roll not received at the email. Try re-rolling and only sending to wisruthroll@gmail.com (don't add your own email).