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NCAA HOOPS THREAD! -- K petitions to get Maui Jim Maui Invitational moved to Transylvania (2 Viewers)
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Bruce Dickinson
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Bruce Dickinson
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Love that Self dusted off the junk defense for this. Worked a lot better with Briscoe out, but it's really frustrating Ulis.
Prince Myshkin
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Willis not being out there to threaten the corner 3 has killed UK. Briscoe and Hawkins are non-shooters and don't have to be guarded outside the paint...
Bruce Dickinson
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Missing all those FTs was tough to watch - Ellis's FT airball was an unfortunate harbinger - but all those fouls drawn creating all those FTs sure paid off in OT. UK has the size of a Valley team right now.
Prince Myshkin
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and who would have thought Ullis would turn it over with the game in his hands 
overall good effort for UK but not good enough
overall good effort for UK but not good enough
Long Ball Larry
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Kentucky-Kansas was great, though I apologize to all for not pointing out the crown jewel of the day: Tennessee-TCU.
Rustoleum
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He lost the handle a couple of times late, undoubtedly due to fatigue. Second-half fouls killed them.and who would have thought Ullis would turn it over with the game in his hands
overall good effort for UK but not good enough
Bruce Dickinson
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Unseasonably warm in Lawrence this weekend (57 today, 68 yesterday) and IIRC The Phog doesn't have air conditioning. Put 16300 screaming fans in there and you've got prime cramping conditions.
Bruce Dickinson
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Might be working too hard to defend Ulis here (I'm big fan of his work), but on that last play in regulation, I pin the blame on Murray for standing still and watching Ulis dribble. Either cut to the corner for a three and spacing, or clear out towards midcourt to get you and your man out of the way. Standing pat on the wing even with the tip of the triangle really clogged the line Ulis wanted to take on that play.and who would have thought Ullis would turn it over with the game in his hands
overall good effort for UK but not good enough
UK being out of timeouts there really hurt them. It's hard to hear instructions from the bench when the Phog gets that worked up, so it's possible guys were running different sets on that play.
Prince Myshkin
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I'm a big fan of Ulis as well (although he does tend to disappear for stretches) and as a UK fan I couldn't have been happier to see the ball in his hands in a tie game with 8 seconds left. Murray definitely should have moved, but you just don't expect Ulis to turn it over in any situation, much less that one.Might be working too hard to defend Ulis here (I'm big fan of his work), but on that last play in regulation, I pin the blame on Murray for standing still and watching Ulis dribble. Either cut to the corner for a three and spacing, or clear out towards midcourt to get you and your man out of the way. Standing pat on the wing even with the tip of the triangle really clogged the line Ulis wanted to take on that play.and who would have thought Ullis would turn it over with the game in his hands
overall good effort for UK but not good enough
UK being out of timeouts there really hurt them. It's hard to hear instructions from the bench when the Phog gets that worked up, so it's possible guys were running different sets on that play.
Thought the 2 plays of the game for Kansas were the offensive rebound snatched from Ulis leading to the scramble 3 and the play where Murray got lost and left Seldon wide open in the corner for 3.
Skal needed to play more in the second half...could have saved Willis, Poythress and Lee from as much foul trouble. That and UK has to learn to defend without fouling. It has been a problem all year.
Bruce Dickinson
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That was a low moment for Murray. He was so far gone, Bilas assumed Murray got screened out of the play and was stunned on the replay that Murray just lost track of his man.
That play was a new wrinkle on a weave play Self has run for years. Usually it's three guys running dribble-handoffs, waiting for an opportunity to turn the corner and drive to the hoop. They added Ellis to the weave and got four guys shuffling around the perimeter, then Selden dropped out of the weave and broke to the corner. It's a movement they haven't had out of that set before.
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Uruk-Hai
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Jackson had no range because "range" implies that there's a limit. If he was somewhere in the building, he was within shooting distance. Man, was he fun to watch. Closest player I can think of to him is Steph Curry.trader jake said:
Didn't Jackson, Shaq, and Stanley Roberts all play at the same time for LSU?
Speaking of LSU, they had a C named Vernell(?) Singleton who was only like 6'6" but could leap out of the gym - he was sort of like a shorter Pervis Ellison. I think he was on that Tigers' squad that went to the FF as an 8 seed?
Bruce Dickinson
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TSTSNBN dropped out of the AP Top 25 for the first time during the Obama administration. Kansas takes over longest active streak of poll appearances with 136.
Other than UNC at Ville tonight it's a quiet slate of games this week, but several good ones coming up on Saturrday.
Other than UNC at Ville tonight it's a quiet slate of games this week, but several good ones coming up on Saturrday.
Shutout
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It's unrealistic, sure, but man what fun it would be to see Kentucky keep some of these guys for 3 years and learn what Cal is offering to teach.Prince Myshkin said:I'm a big fan of Ulis as well (although he does tend to disappear for stretches) and as a UK fan I couldn't have been happier to see the ball in his hands in a tie game with 8 seconds left. Murray definitely should have moved, but you just don't expect Ulis to turn it over in any situation, much less that one.Bruce Dickinson said:Might be working too hard to defend Ulis here (I'm big fan of his work), but on that last play in regulation, I pin the blame on Murray for standing still and watching Ulis dribble. Either cut to the corner for a three and spacing, or clear out towards midcourt to get you and your man out of the way. Standing pat on the wing even with the tip of the triangle really clogged the line Ulis wanted to take on that play.Prince Myshkin said:and who would have thought Ullis would turn it over with the game in his hands
overall good effort for UK but not good enough
UK being out of timeouts there really hurt them. It's hard to hear instructions from the bench when the Phog gets that worked up, so it's possible guys were running different sets on that play.
Thought the 2 plays of the game for Kansas were the offensive rebound snatched from Ulis leading to the scramble 3 and the play where Murray got lost and left Seldon wide open in the corner for 3.
Skal needed to play more in the second half...could have saved Willis, Poythress and Lee from as much foul trouble. That and UK has to learn to defend without fouling. It has been a problem all year.
Well, it would be fun for UK fans but not anyone else.
AAABatteries
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What is Ripleys/Archers new alias?
Bruce Dickinson
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I remember hearing my club basketball teammates talking about this guard from LSU who was a scoring machine. When I finally saw Chris Jackson play, I was in shock. I didn't think anyone move that quick and shoot from that deep.Yes, Jackson, Shaq, and Stanley Roberts had one season of overlap at LSU. Shaq and Roberts were freshmen (ETA: Roberts was Prop 48, so he was a sophomore first-year player) Jackson came back for a second and final season. ESPN Classic still shows one of their games, a phenomenal 148-141 win over Loyola Marymount. LSU was the preseason #2 that year and beat UNLV in non-conference play, but hit a cold streak late in the season (Jackson was playing through a shoulder injury) and dropped to a 5-seed. They drew a Georgia Tech team featuring Kenny Anderson, Dennis Scott, and Brian Oliver opening weekend and went home early.
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Junior Burrough
Todd Lichti
Scotty Thurman
Exree Hipp (as much for his name as his play)
Lou Roe
Troy Bell
Lonny Baxter
Scoonie Penn
Lamond Murray
Doron sheffer
Khalid Reeves
Rustoleum
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Think I remember Jackson hitting a halftime buzzer beater against Kentucky where his momentum took him halfway down the tunnel to the locker room. Don't think he even broke stride.
Bruce Dickinson
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Chris Jackson was 1-2 lifetime in the NCAA Tournament, but his two losses were matchups against Tim Hardaway and Kenny Anderson. "Congrats on your season, Chris. We put the best PG we could find in your subregion. Good luck."
Ramblin Wreck
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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I had the misfortune of attending Chris Jackson's 53 point game in Gainesville in '89. Later that year he had 48 against UF in Baton Rouge. He also put up 55 vs Ole Miss that year, his freshman season.
Uruk-Hai
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If Gathers didn't, he had to be close. For some reason, my pathetic memory thinks Lionel Simmons did too.
PlasmaDogPlasma
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Pretty sure Gathers did.
Uruk-Hai
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Exree Hipp was part of Gary's first really good team at Maryland after the sanctions. Joe Smith turned out to be the crown jewel of that squad. Hipp was one of the strangest looking cats I've ever seen (and that's saying something on a team that also had Johnny Rhodes). His dad was Native American and his mom was black (or maybe it was the other way around). Hipp had AA skin tones, but NA features. He also had an albino ear.That team's highlight was coming from way down to beat (I think) #2 seed UMASS in the NCAAT that had Camby, etc.... (Can't recall if Roe was still there). Maryland must have shot 75% from the field in the 2nd half. I think they got annihilated by the O'Bannon UCLA team next game.
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Uruk-Hai
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I don't think any of the true Centers I've seen in my lifetime led the nation in both scoring and rebounding. When Walton, Gilmore, and Alcindor played you had dudes like Pistol Pete, Cal Murphy, and Austin Carr scoring 45 ppg. Elvin Hayes might have been close, I guess. Bird, too, maybe? Hayes and Bird weren't really Cs, though.
I know I've posted this before somewhere around here, but THE most frightening thing I've ever seen as a fan of the opposing team was Curtis Staples coming off of a screen. He was Reddick but 100x quicker.
I know I've posted this before somewhere around here, but THE most frightening thing I've ever seen as a fan of the opposing team was Curtis Staples coming off of a screen. He was Reddick but 100x quicker.
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Ramblin Wreck
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Staples had the fastest release I can remember. Those UVA teams with him, Deane, Cory Alexander, Burrough and Norman Nolan should have won more than they did. It's a shame Courtney Alexander was such as knucklehead.
Uruk-Hai
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Deanne & Burroughs were tough as nails. Alexander was an idiot, and Nolan was never as good as his rep coming out of HS. Biggest problems was Jeff Jones, who just wanted to get drunk and flirt with coeds. Freaking Gary Williams - who never met a 10th Scotch & soda he didn't like, and dated a 25 year old younger than his daughter - told Jones to reign it in, it was so bad. Jeff didn't listen and drank himself out of his dream job.
Bruce Dickinson
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X-Man, Gathers, and Krazy Eyez all led D-I in scoring and rebounding in the same season.
Bruce Dickinson
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I've been an ABCD ACC guy (Anybody But Carolina or Duke) since I started following the sport, so of course I was a fan of Lethal Weapon 3, as well as the Mark Price/John Salley teams a couple years prior.
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trader jake
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Good pull. The team that I remember being surprised by was the late 80's (89?) Illinois squad. Early in the season, one of my friends asked if I had watched them play and I recall mumbling something about how that school always had some hyped recruit that never amounted to much. Then I watched the team and remember the payer that I was most impressed by was Kendall Gill. H looked like an NBA swing player from the first game. That team also had Kenny Battle, Nick Anderson, Larry Smith, and a few others that were solid.It's surprising the Chicago area hasn't had a better Bball program (outside of DePaul every blue moon). Same with New York. Watched Mullin coach St John's this weekend and there were one or two players that didn't look like D1 players on the team to me.
Ramblin Wreck
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Loved those teams. Tom Hammonds was awesome. Bruce Dalrymple, Duane Ferrell, Craig Neal, and Yvon Joseph in addition to the guys you named.
Ramblin Wreck
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I remember watching those Illini teams on WGN. Steve Bardo was on that team as well as Lowell Hamilton. Marcus Liberty was supposed to be a superstar but he never lived up to the hype.
Bruce Dickinson
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Liberty was the poster child for Prop 48. He was a dominant player on a strong program against tough competition. But he airballed the ACT: rumored to have scored much lower than random guessing would be expected to produce. Losing that first year of eligibility really threw off his development.
Thought that 89 Illini team would win it all. Gill, Anderson, Battle, and Bardo were all about the same size and crazy athletic. But Michigan had to cut Frieder loose before the Tournament and a real coach took over all that talent.
Thought that 89 Illini team would win it all. Gill, Anderson, Battle, and Bardo were all about the same size and crazy athletic. But Michigan had to cut Frieder loose before the Tournament and a real coach took over all that talent.
Bruce Dickinson
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Ramblin Wreck
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Bruce Dickinson
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There's a few guys here, including me, who rave about the legendary Sega Genesis game Coach K College Basketball. It was the players of the 1995 season. Staples was just a freshman but his rep as a shooter reached the gamemakers; UVA was a really fun team to control in that game, and bringing Staples off the bench to rain threes was a big reason why. The three-guard lineup of Deane, Cory Alexander, and Staples was really tough to defend.
Dickie Dunn
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... Lou is an admin. assistant on Derek Kellogg's staff at UMass.Speaking of players with range ... that great Arkansas team had Alex Dillard, who was a threat to pull up any time as soon as he reached halfcourt. Also had that big kid Dwight Stewart who could really shoot it too.
I also remember a kid named Chris Kingsbury for Iowa back around '96 or so. He had no conscience, either.
Fell in love with Shea Seals and Tulsa when I saw them play at the Albany Regional in 1995. Followed the program for a few years ... I thought for sure they were going to the FF in 2000 with Eric Coley, Greg Harrington, Brandon Kurtz until they got "upset" by 8 seed North Carolina in the regional final. Some guy named "Self" was the coach. Such a fun team to watch.
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Bruce Dickinson
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I wondered what happened to Roe. Thought he was going to be a better pro. He was an immovable object in the paint as a college player - Roe and Camby were a devastating tandem.
After Shaq broke a couple baskets, I was convinced Dwight Stewart was going to be the guy to take it to the next level and break a court, come down so hard after a rebound or dunk he'd put a dent in the floor.
Liked how he remained committed to the bowl cut even as he gained fame.
Tulsa has an unusually strong record for launching coaches. Nolan Richardson and Tubby Smith got their starts there. Danny Manning had some success there, too.
Dickie Dunn
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Roe had a pretty long career in Europe, mainly in Spain.I wondered what happened to Roe. Thought he was going to be a better pro. He was an immovable object in the paint as a college player - Roe and Camby were a devastating tandem.
Aerial Assault
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A mention of Chris Kingsbury made me realize you could practically have an all-Iowa scholarship team of largely forgotten guys who were really good college ballers. I already mentioned Woolridge.
Kingsbury
Jess Settles
Acie Earl
Chris Street :(
Val Barnes
B.J. Armstrong
Reggie Evans
Dean Oliver
Roy Marble :(
Kingsbury
Jess Settles
Acie Earl
Chris Street :(
Val Barnes
B.J. Armstrong
Reggie Evans
Dean Oliver
Roy Marble :(
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
This is not a joke: Coach K not coaching tonight because of "illness".
First game he's missed since 1995.
First game he's missed since 1995.