New Dynasty League and we've had our first trade where people are asking questions (3 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

First of all, this is exactly why I don't enjoy Dynasty but was talked into it by MoPJr
Second, we are not going to veto it, doubtful I would say but still I wanted to see what this place thinks
-I kind of know some of you are not going to like this

Malik Nabers (Out for the year) and Breece Hall for JK Dobbins, Kenneth Gainwell, Michael Pittman and a 2026 2nd round pick
The guy sending Nabers wants to try and win this season, doesn't want to sit around until next year or 2027

-My take is only one of them was thinking long term
The guy who sent Nabers and Hall doesn't like that he is being questioned or asked to explain how this makes his team better.

The guy with Nabers and Hall could have split them into 2 trades and likely have landed at least a 1st round pick and a solid player coming back, maybe I'm wrong, this is my 1st Dynasty in 10-15 years, been a while
And then he could have likely traded Hall and gotten something better for him too

Like I said, we are not prepared to veto this trade. The Commish is the one receiving Nabers and Hall, he's a stand up guy, we talk on Sundays with my son while we are watching the games on the Ticket
I did a good job of loading up on young talent at the Auction we held last month, i'm just trying to be patient right now.

Any feedback you all have would be greatly appreciated and i want to stress, outside of the Commish almost none of us have any Dynasty experience, i think that is going to make for some slightly uneven trades

 

[JohnnyU]

That's fugly for the dynasty owner trading Nabers and Hall. That kind of trade causes leagues to fold.

That's all I'm going to say about that.
-Forrest Gump

 

[OldMilwaukee]

Breath in..........breath out.

Let it go..........

 

[-OZ-]

I kind of know some of you are not going to like this

What do you want us to say?
Fugly, you’re not going to veto (although it’s probably justifiable here).
Just venting?

 

[Birdie048]

Not how to start a dynasty season ... the team getting Nabers only gave away a few crackers
There should be a pair of 1st in that Dobins, Pittman side.. even if both are late, that is criminal.

I agree I don't like the VETO aspect, but that is nasty

 

[warpig33]

Breath in..........breath out.

Let it go..........

This. I only do dynasty, and I've seen some things like this. If someone is in win now mode, can't really blame them. To play devil's advocate...WHAT IF Nabors comes back a shell of himself? And Hall, while talented, is a RB in the NFL...there are numerous backs scoring similar to Hall. Just gotta keep doing your thing and trying to make your team better. Sometimes I blame myself in not sending offers to people to make trades like this. I just get tired of the back and forth since MOST owners over value THEIR players.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I kind of know some of you are not going to like this

What do you want us to say?
Fugly, you’re not going to veto (although it’s probably justifiable here).
Just venting?

Good question, I think we are doing the right thing by not doing a Veto but even the Veto rules might need some tweaking in the off season
How many people have to vote "Veto" to stop a trade in most dynasty leagues? This came up with different answers from GMs

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I'm in the "only veto collusion" camp, but I get that it sets a tone for the league. Maybe this will be a learning experience for the Nabers seller?

 

[JohnnyU]

Sounds like someone is still playing with a redraft mentality, and a bad one at that.

 

[wlwiles]

I hate the term "league altering trade". Been playing dynasty for 8 years now across 3 leagues, and I have yet to see a trade so bad that made someone quit or made the league fold. This is a terrible trade but if the guy has justified his reasoning and it's not collusion then you gotta let the guy learn.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

I hope you guys pre-paid at least one season in advance or are playing empire. If the moron tries to leave after this season, time to get nasty.

In the meantime, good-natured ridicule with a firm message that teams need to start communicating to the league's chat platform if they're gung ho on trading two studs for $.30 on the dollar.

In 2022, some guy traded J Chase after he had the audacity to get knocked out for FOUR games. Keenan Allen and A Jones trade accepted from the commish. It's more fun when the commish still fails to win a championship despite his plunder.

 

[TartanLion]

Correct not to veto. Smacks of someone still being new to dynasty and finding their feet in terms of player values and long term value re age. Be annoyed, grin and bear it and move on

 

[Gally]

I kind of know some of you are not going to like this

What do you want us to say?
Fugly, you’re not going to veto (although it’s probably justifiable here).
Just venting?

Good question, I think we are doing the right thing by not doing a Veto but even the Veto rules might need some tweaking in the off season
How many people have to vote "Veto" to stop a trade in most dynasty leagues? This came up with different answers from GMs

A veto should only happen for collusion and that should be a decision made by the Commish. Trade committess suck because more often than not the people on the committee vote on a trade based on how the trade will affect their chances and not on the merits of the trade. it causes more problems than it is worth. Have a quality Commish and he should do the job accordingly.

 

[Gally]

I hate the term "league altering trade". Been playing dynasty for 8 years now across 3 leagues, and I have yet to see a trade so bad that made someone quit or made the league fold. This is a terrible trade but if the guy has justified his reasoning and it's not collusion then you gotta let the guy learn.

I have found that typically the more leaguemates ***** about a trade the more it ends up being meh in how it actually plays out. In this instance, people are taking this on reputation of the Nabers and Breece part and not the actual performances. No guarantees that Nabers ever comes back to normal and Breece has never lived up to what he was supposed to be. That may change but then again it may not.

Let people run teams the way they want to run their teams......however, paying ahead one or two years is definitely warranted so people don't bail leaving the league in a lurch.

 

[Desert_Power]

Malik Nabers (Out for the year) and Breece Hall for JK Dobbins, Kenneth Gainwell, Michael Pittman and a 2026 2nd round pick
The guy sending Nabers wants to try and win this season, doesn't want to sit around until next year or 2027

I mean is that team even better this season? I'd Hall over that package.

Should be veto'd

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

In my re-draft league of 20 years that I commission, we have had a 1-day trade processing / review time (plus however many hours it was accepted prior to midnight PT). The trade can be cancelled by either party up until the midnight processing time. It can also be cancelled by four dissenting votes from the rest of the league. That number might not work for a lot of leagues and I recognize that the idea of a veto for many is a non-starter. However, this group is really chill, so there has only has only been one instance where a trade was rejected by league veto, and it was definitely warranted.

The much more valuable part of the 1-day review is allowing either team to cancel during that period. We've definitely had the losing party of several bad trades cancel after getting inundated with far superior counter-offers and good natured ribbing. Sometimes they re-work the deal with the original trade partner for something slightly less awful. Sometimes they get offended and double-down, which is also fine. I do recommend it as a decent option for forcing some level of dialogue on alternate trade offers, which has gotten things closer to fair market value about a half-dozen times in our league's history. The trade-off is not being able to get a deal done instantly for the upcoming week on Saturday night.

 

[zed2283]

It's a new dynasty league and this is how you learn dynasty.