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New Orleans at Atlanta: Exploit/Avoid (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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New Orleans at Atlanta (-3.5)

-The Saints had a tough time last week but the reality is they gift wrapped 14 points to SF and lost 28-21. Would this spread be 3.5 if New Orleans had won the game last week? I want to focus on keys to the game so let's focus on the Saints LT Jermon Bushrod vs DRE for Atlanta John Abraham. Some of you have already dozed off and are saying "MOP, what about Julio Jones?" This right here is the key to the game. If Brees has time to sit back and throw the football then things are going to be mighty interesting tonight. I look at Bushrod who had his hands full last week but before that he had not yielded an actual sack since week 1 when the Saints had no idea what to do without their HC. I look at the Saints like in Rocky III(uh oh movie analogy) where Stallone is going to the ring and all the sudden Clubber Lang(played by Roger Goodell of course) takes out Micky and Stallone gets his ### kicked much like the Saints. Enter Apollo Creed(Joe Vitt) who has had the Saints running wind sprints along the Mississippi and chasing chickens thru the French Quarter and has them lean, mean, and a fightin' machine.

The Haters: "MOP, you better have more than this."

:boxing: Sit down and listen cause I got all kinds of goodies for tonight. :boxing:

-John Abraham is a terrific DE and he has 9 sacks on the season but that stat can be very misleading. Now he doesn't have to record a bunch of sacks tonight to make his presence felt but he has feasted on terrible OLines. Look where most of his sacks came...SD, CAR, OAK, AZ, PHI(those are mostly bottom dwellers), all of them minus 1 in week 1 against KC. These two teams faced off a couple weeks ago and Abraham had a couple of QB pressures but he was pretty much a non factor and I look for Bushrod to win this challenge.

That is key match up #1 because as long as they handle Abraham, there isn't a lot of other spots for Atlanta to generate a big pass rush. Weatherspoon is back from injury but he is not dominant. I don't think Atlanta is going to want to blitz all that much as Brees can find the one on one match up and exploit it should that happen.

-We're going to continue this theme and move on to the Atlanta secondary which has been decent this year but they could have some issues tonight. Assante Samuel is far from 100%, but he's a warrior and will try to give it a go. Dunta Robinson has been getting some praise in the media but his Qb Rating allowed is 107. These are not shut down corners. Thomas DeCoud has 4 interceptions on the season but its been weeks, like early October since he picked off a pass and his tackling is up and down. SS-Moore has allowed almost a 100 QB passer rating so look for the Saints to try and exploit him a couple times.

That was key match up #2 and assuming NO can exploit the Falcons as they did a few weeks back, that means the Falcons will have to take to the air a lot.

So overall I feel the Falcons are ripe for the Saints to get things done and atone for their mistakes last week. Now some of you are saying big deal and when are we gonna focus on the skill position players. I understand but reading up on both the OL/DL play of both teams, trends in the secondary, that is where you are gonna find the real meat for these match ups. You can flip thru the stats at P-F-R, NFL, FBG...but you gotta dig deeper sometimes. Let's shift over to the Atlanta offense and the reason I do that now is I already feel even on a short week that Brees should have a strong game(300/3), must win situation if they have any hope of the playoffs. Imagine the Saints put up 30 tonight...what do you think Atlanta is going to do in return? Run Michael Turner? :lol:

The Falcons have Clabo and Baker who have combined for 43 QB rushes, 10 sacks allowed, 10 more QB hits, pretty avg IMO, the you have Justin Blalock at LG who leads the league in QB rushes allowed form that position(18), not good. I expect the Saints to blitz throughout the night and try to force Matt Ryan into making some bad decisions. Cameron Jordan and Will Smith must play up to the Falcons level tonight and get pressure even if they don't get sacks.

So on offense for the Saints I would start the usual suspects and at RB your guess is as good as mine. So much inconsistency but I do love watching Chris Ivory run the football and believe he could start some places.

For Atlanta I would assume if the Saints score 30+, they will be trying to shoot the lights out as well. How can you afford to sit JJ, White, or Gonzo? The bad news for Roddy White owners is that when Julio Jones has one of these 20-25 point nights, White is usually pretty quiet. The good news though is that Julio doesn't usually score 20-25 back to back weeks, in fact he is all over the map which is why he sits at #13 overall for WRs...that and he gets hurt causing him to miss time. I actually like the Saints tonight on a short week, I'll take the points in one of the rare offensive explosions on Thursday Night.

New Orleans 31...Atlanta 28

Good luck to everyone, and no I am not going to be doing every game this week so rest easy :)

 
I'm sure what you've got written is very interesting but a little better formatting / white space would do you good.

 
So you're saying Over 54.5 is the play MOP? :P

Anyways, thanks for the writeup, this is great stuff. :thumbup:

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Last I checked OL and DL players don't score fantasy points in my league. :mellow: Could have used a more standard FF friendly exploit/avoid with red/green fonts. But I understand. You want to change it up a bit. Thanks anyways for doing this. We needed some discussion started for tonights game.

 
Last I checked OL and DL players don't score fantasy points in my league. :mellow: Could have used a more standard FF friendly exploit/avoid with red/green fonts. But I understand. You want to change it up a bit. Thanks anyways for doing this. We needed some discussion started for tonights game.
All the sites do that stuff, was looking for some slightly deeper discussion. Bottom line, most are gonna roll with Brees, Colston, Jimmy Graham, Ryan, JJ, White, Gonzo.
 
Last I checked OL and DL players don't score fantasy points in my league. :mellow: Could have used a more standard FF friendly exploit/avoid with red/green fonts. But I understand. You want to change it up a bit. Thanks anyways for doing this. We needed some discussion started for tonights game.
All the sites do that stuff, was looking for some slightly deeper discussion. Bottom line, most are gonna roll with Brees, Colston, Jimmy Graham, Ryan, JJ, White, Gonzo.
I'm rolling with Ryan, JJ, Gonzo, Sproles, Graham. But I'm hedging back and forth on starting L. Moore. I'd have to bench one of these RB's in PPR: B. Brown, Sproles, Gore. It's scary to have so many players on one night! :eek:
 
I think maybe one point that I think was over-looked is the short week considering how physical SF played NO last week. They may have a signifcant lingering affect from that game.

 
Asante Samuel could barely lift his shoulder at the end of the Tampa game and Robinson left the field that day with a head injury.

I see a lot of Rodgers in this game, maybe because I own him and desperately want to start him. I'm thinking the final point total looks about right, give or take a few points. Thinking 34-28 or something like that, but it's Thursday, so who knows what effects that may have.

 
Digging Sproles in this...just hate that the game is tonight.

If somehow McFadden does not play...Id rather roll with Reece this week...but can't wait to figure that out unless I plan on making the decision between M. Bush, Reece, and McFadden.

Thinking I just go with my gut and SProles and hope he does not blow goats tonight.

 
Fantastic as always, MOP, and even better with the focus on the matchups in the trenches and in the defensive backfield -- totally agree that where everyone likes to focus on the key marquee offensive players and their potential, games are won and lost on these kinds of singular matchups like how Bushrod can handle Abraham, etc. Love the analysis.

Really debating about starting Lance Moore in the flex against what looks to be a weakened ATL secondary, as opposed to Moreno against an up-and-down Bucs run D. HAve been leaning towards Moreno, as even in PPR, there are a lot of targets to go around on the Saints.

But we all know what happens when Brees is given time to throw, which may be the case if Bushrod and the others on the line play up to potential. Could be a great day for everyone who catches balls for the Saints.

I think this is going to devolve into a shoot-out, with both Ds playing down to each other, and the winner being the Saints who make fewer mistakes on offense. Looking at you, Matty Ice-Pick.

 
Fantastic as always, MOP, and even better with the focus on the matchups in the trenches and in the defensive backfield -- totally agree that where everyone likes to focus on the key marquee offensive players and their potential, games are won and lost on these kinds of singular matchups like how Bushrod can handle Abraham, etc. Love the analysis.Really debating about starting Lance Moore in the flex against what looks to be a weakened ATL secondary, as opposed to Moreno against an up-and-down Bucs run D. HAve been leaning towards Moreno, as even in PPR, there are a lot of targets to go around on the Saints. But we all know what happens when Brees is given time to throw, which may be the case if Bushrod and the others on the line play up to potential. Could be a great day for everyone who catches balls for the Saints.I think this is going to devolve into a shoot-out, with both Ds playing down to each other, and the winner being the Saints who make fewer mistakes on offense. Looking at you, Matty Ice-Pick.
Thanks, right back at you. I like Lance Moore as long as Sproles is still on the mend.
 
Lance Moore just got dropped in 1 league from a guy hit by other injuries

I am considering grabbing and starting him over D Moore or D Alexander.

(the Oakland game could be a mess, an the Cinci D is playing well lately)

I like Lance moore here today, but I have to drop D Moore or D Alexander

an I'm not sure I'm ready to do that, going to have to ponder that desision.

Good OP, thanks for the input..

Planty of fantasy relevant players in this game in multiple leagues for some.. :)

 
Great read MOP. I agree on your assessment with the RBs but how do you feel with Sproles in a ppr league in this game? a must start as a flex?

 
Just curious: Throwing last weekend against the Niners out, is anyone buying Ingram's resurgence?
It's encouraging for the future, but it's a RBBC mess for fantasy purposes right now. There's a pretty good chance a RB scores a TD, but good luck guessing which one it will be.
 
Great read MOP. I agree on your assessment with the RBs but how do you feel with Sproles in a ppr league in this game? a must start as a flex?
7/65 last week on 30 snaps...I guess in PPR leagues he is a must start in the flex. 16...25...6...17...8...bye...15...18...inj/inj/inj...back last week. The trend says 12-18 as long as he gets the snaps, no reason to not start him.
 
Just curious: Throwing last weekend against the Niners out, is anyone buying Ingram's resurgence?
Not really, need to see a lot more. I still feel Ivory should be getting 12-15 carries a game.
Amen. Someone's going to *eventually* give that kid a shot at 15-20 carries a game, and it's going to be fun to watch. Love him in Dynasty, even if the full payoff doesn't come till 2014.
 
I think Michael Turner has a pretty solid game. Saints D has improved some, but I think he gets 80+ total yards and a TD.
This is my hangup. I don't have to start him, but I could. The saints have such an atrocious run defense that I could see him having a good night if they stay close...but if the Saints pull ahead early at all, it could be the Quizz show until they get to the goal line...if they do.
 
I think Michael Turner has a pretty solid game. Saints D has improved some, but I think he gets 80+ total yards and a TD.
Have you seen what we've done to Turner over the past couple seasons?He tops out at 50ish yards IMO.We have completely shut him down the past few games; Quiz Rodgers probably has a better chance of doing damage if they'd use him more.
 
When ATL faced NO last, Turner was the first RB all season to look like complete and utter #### versus them. I wasn't totally surprised, but seriously the dudes tank is on E.

I'm flip flopping on whether or not I'm going to be starting L.Moore tonight. The thing is, I personally have a very hard time sitting him whenever he plays on turf. This coupled with the fact that ATLs secondary is beat up and this has the makings of a shootout, and I think he'll make for a strong WR3/flex play once again.

I also like Quizz tonight but do not have the stones to start him, although my options aren't even that great. If he gets the touches he deserves, I could easily have a 100 total yards tonight.

By the way MoP, this was a fantastic read as always.

 
When ATL faced NO last, Turner was the first RB all season to look like complete and utter #### versus them. I wasn't totally surprised, but seriously the dudes tank is on E.

I'm flip flopping on whether or not I'm going to be starting L.Moore tonight. The thing is, I personally have a very hard time sitting him whenever he plays on turf. This coupled with the fact that ATLs secondary is beat up and this has the makings of a shootout, and I think he'll make for a strong WR3/flex play once again.

I also like Quizz tonight but do not have the stones to start him, although my options aren't even that great. If he gets the touches he deserves, I could easily have a 100 total yards tonight.

By the way MoP, this was a fantastic read as always.
... didn't Turner house a 60 yard screen in that game? :shock:
 
When ATL faced NO last, Turner was the first RB all season to look like complete and utter #### versus them. I wasn't totally surprised, but seriously the dudes tank is on E.

I'm flip flopping on whether or not I'm going to be starting L.Moore tonight. The thing is, I personally have a very hard time sitting him whenever he plays on turf. This coupled with the fact that ATLs secondary is beat up and this has the makings of a shootout, and I think he'll make for a strong WR3/flex play once again.

I also like Quizz tonight but do not have the stones to start him, although my options aren't even that great. If he gets the touches he deserves, I could easily have a 100 total yards tonight.

By the way MoP, this was a fantastic read as always.
... didn't Turner house a 60 yard screen in that game? :shock:
No. That was versus CAR. He rushed 13 times for 15 yards and looked like he was running backwards 90% of the time versus NO.
 
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When ATL faced NO last, Turner was the first RB all season to look like complete and utter #### versus them. I wasn't totally surprised, but seriously the dudes tank is on E.I'm flip flopping on whether or not I'm going to be starting L.Moore tonight. The thing is, I personally have a very hard time sitting him whenever he plays on turf. This coupled with the fact that ATLs secondary is beat up and this has the makings of a shootout, and I think he'll make for a strong WR3/flex play once again.I also like Quizz tonight but do not have the stones to start him, although my options aren't even that great. If he gets the touches he deserves, I could easily have a 100 total yards tonight.By the way MoP, this was a fantastic read as always.
Thanks SSnD, let me play with the Moore numbers a bit here...73 targets over 11 games=6-7 targets a week. He had 25 targets over 2 games early on in the season. He had 46 of those targets over 4 games or 11-12 target avg for about 1/3 of the games. Those 46 targets yielded 29/400/1Td. The other 27 targets over 7 games is about 4 targets a game. Those games yielded 16/300/3Td. 4 of the last 5 games he has managed 6, 6, 3, and 2 targets so his target avg is no really that high at the moment however he cashed in big at Oak on 3 targets/2Tds...I would be leery or at best cautiously optimistic. 4/48 @Atl 2010, 1/28 @Atl 2011, 2/53 ATL 2011, 7/90 ATL this season...he hasn't done that well on the road in Atlanta the last couple years. Have fun figuring this out :)
 
When ATL faced NO last, Turner was the first RB all season to look like complete and utter #### versus them. I wasn't totally surprised, but seriously the dudes tank is on E.I'm flip flopping on whether or not I'm going to be starting L.Moore tonight. The thing is, I personally have a very hard time sitting him whenever he plays on turf. This coupled with the fact that ATLs secondary is beat up and this has the makings of a shootout, and I think he'll make for a strong WR3/flex play once again.I also like Quizz tonight but do not have the stones to start him, although my options aren't even that great. If he gets the touches he deserves, I could easily have a 100 total yards tonight.By the way MoP, this was a fantastic read as always.
Thanks SSnD, let me play with the Moore numbers a bit here...73 targets over 11 games=6-7 targets a week. He had 25 targets over 2 games early on in the season. He had 46 of those targets over 4 games or 11-12 target avg for about 1/3 of the games. Those 46 targets yielded 29/400/1Td. The other 27 targets over 7 games is about 4 targets a game. Those games yielded 16/300/3Td. 4 of the last 5 games he has managed 6, 6, 3, and 2 targets so his target avg is no really that high at the moment however he cashed in big at Oak on 3 targets/2Tds...I would be leery or at best cautiously optimistic. 4/48 @Atl 2010, 1/28 @Atl 2011, 2/53 ATL 2011, 7/90 ATL this season...he hasn't done that well on the road in Atlanta the last couple years. Have fun figuring this out :)
I was not aware of those historical stats vs. ATL. I can say, early in the season he saw a bump in targets due to Colston's injury. Colston was playing less snaps than people realized.He had a great game (targets were high I'm sure) with Graham out vs. TB.Vs. ATL, Sproles didn't play (7/90).So, now that everyone is healthy, It'd be fair to assume that it doesn't bode well for Moore.This turf thing always bugs me though, where he has 27 TDs on 51 games on turf, averaging 45 YPG versus 7 TDs in 28 games on grass, averaging 35 YPG. Admittedly, surface hasn't mattered much for him this year, whether or not other NO weapons have been available has.I'm talking myself out of it. I have to assume Sproles is healthier than he was last week meaning less looks for Moore in the short game. I can see his day being "salvaged" by a TD, but his ceiling isn't where I'd like it to be.Talking this out helped haha.ETA: I AM starting Quizz though. :thumbup:
 
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When ATL faced NO last, Turner was the first RB all season to look like complete and utter #### versus them. I wasn't totally surprised, but seriously the dudes tank is on E.

I'm flip flopping on whether or not I'm going to be starting L.Moore tonight. The thing is, I personally have a very hard time sitting him whenever he plays on turf. This coupled with the fact that ATLs secondary is beat up and this has the makings of a shootout, and I think he'll make for a strong WR3/flex play once again.

I also like Quizz tonight but do not have the stones to start him, although my options aren't even that great. If he gets the touches he deserves, I could easily have a 100 total yards tonight.

By the way MoP, this was a fantastic read as always.
Thanks SSnD, let me play with the Moore numbers a bit here...73 targets over 11 games=6-7 targets a week. He had 25 targets over 2 games early on in the season. He had 46 of those targets over 4 games or 11-12 target avg for about 1/3 of the games. Those 46 targets yielded 29/400/1Td. The other 27 targets over 7 games is about 4 targets a game. Those games yielded 16/300/3Td. 4 of the last 5 games he has managed 6, 6, 3, and 2 targets so his target avg is no really that high at the moment however he cashed in big at Oak on 3 targets/2Tds...I would be leery or at best cautiously optimistic. 4/48 @Atl 2010, 1/28 @Atl 2011, 2/53 ATL 2011, 7/90 ATL this season...he hasn't done that well on the road in Atlanta the last couple years.

Have fun figuring this out :)
I was not aware of those historical stats vs. ATL. I can say, early in the season he saw a bump in targets due to Colston's injury. Colston was playing less snaps than people realized.

He had a great game (targets were high I'm sure) with Graham out vs. TB.

Vs. ATL, Sproles didn't play (7/90).

So, now that everyone is healthy, It'd be fair to assume that it doesn't bode well for Moore.

This turf thing always bugs me though, where he has 27 TDs on 51 games on turf, averaging 45 YPG versus 7 TDs in 28 games on grass, averaging 35 YPG.

Admittedly, surface hasn't mattered much for him this year, whether or not other NO weapons have been available has.

I'm talking myself out of it. I have to assume Sproles is healthier than he was last week meaning less looks for Moore in the short game. I can see his day being "salvaged" by a TD, but his ceiling isn't where I'd like it to be.

Talking this out helped haha.

ETA: I AM starting Quizz though. :thumbup:
And that's what makes the SP awesome. I have Brees, Gonzo, and Matt Bryant going tonight in the only non best ball league I compete in.
 
Very unsure about Colston here and tempted to go with a home run hitter like D.Alexander over him (even against a tough Bengals pass D). Colston's targets and catches while Graham has played have been plain bad. He's generally looking at 4 catches for 40 yards every one of those games, with a 50% chance of a TD. Breees just doesn't look to Colston like he used to. If there's a game where he could blowup, it could be a dome-based shootout with two high powered offenses, but I'm still just not comfortable here.

 
Very unsure about Colston here and tempted to go with a home run hitter like D.Alexander over him (even against a tough Bengals pass D). Colston's targets and catches while Graham has played have been plain bad. He's generally looking at 4 catches for 40 yards every one of those games, with a 50% chance of a TD. Breees just doesn't look to Colston like he used to. If there's a game where he could blowup, it could be a dome-based shootout with two high powered offenses, but I'm still just not comfortable here.
Good point Otis, while Colston is #13WR in PPR, he has not topped 6 targets in over a month.
 
Interesting that a guy gunning for a staff position plays almost exclusively in best ball leagues.

Not that it takes anything away from this thread. Thanks for the effort. Just interesting, since its an entirely different mindset.

 
Interesting that a guy gunning for a staff position plays almost exclusively in best ball leagues. Not that it takes anything away from this thread. Thanks for the effort. Just interesting, since its an entirely different mindset.
What makes you think the OP is gunning for a staff position?
 
Very unsure about Colston here and tempted to go with a home run hitter like D.Alexander over him (even against a tough Bengals pass D). Colston's targets and catches while Graham has played have been plain bad. He's generally looking at 4 catches for 40 yards every one of those games, with a 50% chance of a TD. Breees just doesn't look to Colston like he used to. If there's a game where he could blowup, it could be a dome-based shootout with two high powered offenses, but I'm still just not comfortable here.
Good point Otis, while Colston is #13WR in PPR, he has not topped 6 targets in over a month.
That said, I confess I folded to the rankings from all the "experts" and subbed in Colston over Alexander at the last minute. I may regret it, but in a dome, with the Saints likely playing from behind a bunch, and with just a gut feeling that Colston could be "due" for a big game... I just couldn't resist.Maybe a huge mistake, but with the Saints down big here, there will be lots of throwing. Colston has been targeted a ton, and ATL's secondary is beat up. Could end up a decent decision. Cowardly, but decent. I still say, on the whole, people are ranking Colston too high.

 
Very unsure about Colston here and tempted to go with a home run hitter like D.Alexander over him (even against a tough Bengals pass D). Colston's targets and catches while Graham has played have been plain bad. He's generally looking at 4 catches for 40 yards every one of those games, with a 50% chance of a TD. Breees just doesn't look to Colston like he used to. If there's a game where he could blowup, it could be a dome-based shootout with two high powered offenses, but I'm still just not comfortable here.
Good point Otis, while Colston is #13WR in PPR, he has not topped 6 targets in over a month.
That said, I confess I folded to the rankings from all the "experts" and subbed in Colston over Alexander at the last minute. I may regret it, but in a dome, with the Saints likely playing from behind a bunch, and with just a gut feeling that Colston could be "due" for a big game... I just couldn't resist.Maybe a huge mistake, but with the Saints down big here, there will be lots of throwing. Colston has been targeted a ton, and ATL's secondary is beat up. Could end up a decent decision. Cowardly, but decent. I still say, on the whole, people are ranking Colston too high.
Same boat here, guys. The trend and historical numbers just didn't look good for Colston, so we sat him at #3 for either a Broyles or Blackmon home run. Got very nervous after Colston's strong first half, but not kicking myself yet, pending a garbage time Marques TD
 
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Very unsure about Colston here and tempted to go with a home run hitter like D.Alexander over him (even against a tough Bengals pass D). Colston's targets and catches while Graham has played have been plain bad. He's generally looking at 4 catches for 40 yards every one of those games, with a 50% chance of a TD. Breees just doesn't look to Colston like he used to. If there's a game where he could blowup, it could be a dome-based shootout with two high powered offenses, but I'm still just not comfortable here.
Good point Otis, while Colston is #13WR in PPR, he has not topped 6 targets in over a month.
That said, I confess I folded to the rankings from all the "experts" and subbed in Colston over Alexander at the last minute. I may regret it, but in a dome, with the Saints likely playing from behind a bunch, and with just a gut feeling that Colston could be "due" for a big game... I just couldn't resist.Maybe a huge mistake, but with the Saints down big here, there will be lots of throwing. Colston has been targeted a ton, and ATL's secondary is beat up. Could end up a decent decision. Cowardly, but decent. I still say, on the whole, people are ranking Colston too high.
Same boat here, guys. The trend and historical numbers just didn't look good for Colston, so we sat him at #3 for either a Broyles or Blackmon home run. Got very nervous after Colston's strong first half, but not kcikeing myself yet, pending a garbage time Marrques TD
You made a good call -- I probably should have stuck with my gut. I think Colston is done as a stud WR. The trend looks very bad.
 
Very unsure about Colston here and tempted to go with a home run hitter like D.Alexander over him (even against a tough Bengals pass D). Colston's targets and catches while Graham has played have been plain bad. He's generally looking at 4 catches for 40 yards every one of those games, with a 50% chance of a TD. Breees just doesn't look to Colston like he used to. If there's a game where he could blowup, it could be a dome-based shootout with two high powered offenses, but I'm still just not comfortable here.
Good point Otis, while Colston is #13WR in PPR, he has not topped 6 targets in over a month.
That said, I confess I folded to the rankings from all the "experts" and subbed in Colston over Alexander at the last minute. I may regret it, but in a dome, with the Saints likely playing from behind a bunch, and with just a gut feeling that Colston could be "due" for a big game... I just couldn't resist.Maybe a huge mistake, but with the Saints down big here, there will be lots of throwing. Colston has been targeted a ton, and ATL's secondary is beat up. Could end up a decent decision. Cowardly, but decent. I still say, on the whole, people are ranking Colston too high.
Same boat here, guys. The trend and historical numbers just didn't look good for Colston, so we sat him at #3 for either a Broyles or Blackmon home run. Got very nervous after Colston's strong first half, but not kcikeing myself yet, pending a garbage time Marrques TD
You made a good call -- I probably should have stuck with my gut. I think Colston is done as a stud WR. The trend looks very bad.
But there's no worse (ff) feeling than benching a stud in a prime time "shootout" when you're playing for a playoff spot and watching him blow up; the backdrop kind of clouds your analytical judgement
 
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I won't be able to get a job at Bleacher Reports at this pace.

Good for the Falcons. Seems like everyone did alright except Drew Gabbert tonight, oof.

 
I won't be able to get a job at Bleacher Reports at this pace. Good for the Falcons. Seems like everyone did alright except Drew Gabbert tonight, oof.
Hindsight is always 20/20, and the thoughtful and cogent analysis you give always sparks the right kinds of debates about keys to the game, FF positional prospects, start/sit analysis, and much more.Hey, I made fun of Ryan and his 5-pick game, just to see Brees pull that off himself. To me, it's not whether you call it right or wrong, it's that you take the time to call it in a way that adds value.
 
I freaking hate Michael Turner...draft him to be my #3...he blows most of the year...I replace him for better matchups/options at times during the year...play him for matchups. Over and over he puts up duds in my lineup...shines on my bench.

:ptts:

 
Just curious: Throwing last weekend against the Niners out, is anyone buying Ingram's resurgence?
Not really, need to see a lot more. I still feel Ivory should be getting 12-15 carries a game.
I really think the Saints RBBC does a disservice to all of the RBs. I think Ivory, Thomas or Ingram would all be better served by being the man and being allowed to get into the flow of the game - particualraly Ivory or Ingram who when on the field basically hold a sign that says to the defense "we're going to run the ball on this down".
 
I want to focus on keys to the game so let's focus on the Saints LT Jermon Bushrod vs DRE for Atlanta John Abraham.
Didn't get a chance to watch the game last night, but saw some footage where Abraham was actually lined up on the right side of the Saints O-line over tackle -- perhaps to take advantage of Streif's return after injury, hoping for rust.Was Abraham lined up as DRE the entire game, and was this one of the factors leading to Brees' cruddy performance?
 
I was stunned that the Falcons went away from Turner so quickly in the 1st quarter. He (and the o-line) were dominating with runs up the middle of the defense. Then they drew up three passing plays and punted, and then basically abandoned running up the middle. So strange.

 
Just another Thursday night game where neither team looked good.

Outside of Thanksgiving Day games, Thursday games have not been good to Fantasy owners.

 
'sho nuff said:
I freaking hate Michael Turner...draft him to be my #3...he blows most of the year...I replace him for better matchups/options at times during the year...play him for matchups. Over and over he puts up duds in my lineup...shines on my bench. :ptts:
Is this Michael Turner's fault or the guy who is putting him in and out of the lineup ? :P JK. 'Tis life in FF.
 
I was stunned that the Falcons went away from Turner so quickly in the 1st quarter. He (and the o-line) were dominating with runs up the middle of the defense. Then they drew up three passing plays and punted, and then basically abandoned running up the middle. So strange.
Yes, it is a little perplexing. even with about 8 minutes left in the game and with a lead, they passed almost exclusively. I get it that the identity of the team is now pass-first, but they still have a few things to learn. Even the great Payton Manning-led colts used to check their throwing compulsion at the door and run as much as they could when they were trying to ice a game. Yes, sometimes that was run for 1, run for 1, then throw on 3rd down to move the chains, but its still a far cary from dropping back and looking at intermediate passes on all three downs. Nothing but bad things tend to happen when you expose yourself that much. At the very least, at least make sure the clock continues to run and you minimize the chances of taking sacks/fumbles in the pocket.
 
I want to focus on keys to the game so let's focus on the Saints LT Jermon Bushrod vs DRE for Atlanta John Abraham.
Didn't get a chance to watch the game last night, but saw some footage where Abraham was actually lined up on the right side of the Saints O-line over tackle -- perhaps to take advantage of Streif's return after injury, hoping for rust.Was Abraham lined up as DRE the entire game, and was this one of the factors leading to Brees' cruddy performance?
His big sack was on the RT Streif. He did start lining up on the Right side if the OL.
 

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