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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Against my own good judgement, I took the F today. Left the house at 915am, sitting in a taxi now 75 minutes later still not at work.
Ive basically avoided the F for weeks and taken the 4/5, but bc of the rain, I took the F due to it being closer. What a ####### mistake! The app said it was fine, signal problems, ####### shocked!
I hate the MTA!
Ive basically avoided the F for weeks and taken the 4/5, but bc of the rain, I took the F due to it being closer. What a ####### mistake! The app said it was fine, signal problems, ####### shocked!
I hate the MTA!
El Floppo
Footballguy
what app do you use? my wife checks the mta twitter feed, which seems to be the most up-to-minute.
I'm on the F every morning. if we're on it before or by 8:15 (at 2nd ave), it's fine*. after 8:15, a mess.
*but yeah- the last several months, there have been more and more "signal problems" or other generic issues that really ding it. if we catch them via twitter in time, we'll bus it to bwy/lafayette to take the B/D... but inevitbly, we end up on the same F that we could've caught at 2nd ave.
El Floppo
Footballguy
oh! speaking of the F...
the morning after the manchester incident, we ended up on it earlier than normal- before 8:10, and actually got seats together.... first time that's ever happened. I notice a young professional (looking) woman sitting across from us who seems completely out of it. because it's so empty, I can actually see and watch her (with heightened vigilance because of manchester)... she's leaning forward the way heroin junkies do while standing, her backpack is on the seat next to her and some of her papers are on the ground the other way. something is definitely off, and I'm ready to protect the kids if she starts acting crazy.
she leans even further forward (eyes at a slit, not focused, but not asleep) and then face-plants onto the floor. another rider and I jump up and help her to her feet asking if she's ok- she's conscious, but not responding. we seat her back down and ask if she needs help. not responding. medical help- not responding. we're about to get off, and I ask if she needs help to get off the train- thinking if she's this out of it, maybe she's missed her stop or just needs some air- this time she says no out loud, but is clearly out of it. I ask the other guy if he's staying on the train- and he was- so I felt less guilty about leaving her alone.
what do you guys do in this situation? I thought that maybe I should call for help at the next stop and let them know there's a sick passenger... but then I thought that would mean they shut the line down indefinitely and poor ol' FC and his brooklyn pals on the F end up screwed because of a junkie.
the morning after the manchester incident, we ended up on it earlier than normal- before 8:10, and actually got seats together.... first time that's ever happened. I notice a young professional (looking) woman sitting across from us who seems completely out of it. because it's so empty, I can actually see and watch her (with heightened vigilance because of manchester)... she's leaning forward the way heroin junkies do while standing, her backpack is on the seat next to her and some of her papers are on the ground the other way. something is definitely off, and I'm ready to protect the kids if she starts acting crazy.
she leans even further forward (eyes at a slit, not focused, but not asleep) and then face-plants onto the floor. another rider and I jump up and help her to her feet asking if she's ok- she's conscious, but not responding. we seat her back down and ask if she needs help. not responding. medical help- not responding. we're about to get off, and I ask if she needs help to get off the train- thinking if she's this out of it, maybe she's missed her stop or just needs some air- this time she says no out loud, but is clearly out of it. I ask the other guy if he's staying on the train- and he was- so I felt less guilty about leaving her alone.
what do you guys do in this situation? I thought that maybe I should call for help at the next stop and let them know there's a sick passenger... but then I thought that would mean they shut the line down indefinitely and poor ol' FC and his brooklyn pals on the F end up screwed because of a junkie.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I use the MTA subway app. I've been taking the 4/5 which is extra walking, but less crowded and much less delayed. Today, due to the rain, I decided to just take the F after the app said no delays.
I got to the stop, waited 20 minutes for a train to come - first a "track inspection train" came into the stop for 10 minutes, then slowly left, 10 minutes later an F rolls into the station, amazingly wasn't overpacked, prob bc it was already almost 10am. Train leaves the station and then stops for 10 minutes. Gets to the next station and is held in the station for 10 minutes. Slowly moves along for another 2 stops, then gets stuck after Delancey before 2nd Ave. Gets into the 2nd Ave stop and conductor announces "signal problems, big delays" 4 stops from 14th St, I got off and just took a cab.
The entire way I'm checking the app at every stop showing me "good service," finally after 30 minutes it updates and shows delays for the orange line and the blue line. Beyond the F signal problems, the ACE were running on the FM lines.
Might be the last time I ever get on an F, #### that!
In terms of the junkie, IDK. It is complete bull#### that some junkie ruins the commute of 1000's of people, #### them. 1000's of people just trying to get to or from work have to suffer bc of some unemployed drug addict, IDK.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
the wife is convinced the MTA app is crap- much prefers their twitter feed for being current. we've taken to using the bus (mta's bus-time app is dead-on, fwiw) to bwy/lafayette so we can add the m, b and d to our options of trains to take to W4. but there's been so much construction on houston (STILL... it's been going on longer than my almost 6yo daughter has been alive... no exaggeration) that the bus ends up taking longer than walking most times... and walking is a little long for my almost 6yo.
fwiw- I don't know that this woman was a junkie. tbh, she looked like a professional in dress and appearance.... just was acting like she was on heroin. could've aslo been legitimately sick or having a bad reaction to medicine. that's why my sense of conflict kicked in.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I would love to know what percentage of "sick" passengers are derelicts and drug addicts, I'd be willing to be at least 1/3 to half.
El Floppo
Footballguy
also- not sure what happened to change the zoning/regulations... but not feeling optimistic about what this proliferation of big-box stores (Target, especially) is going to do to the city. between ridiculous rents and these things- I feel for the smaller business and individual.
and speaking of rents... Schiller's is closing!
... was told their rent is doubling from 30k to 60. mcnally has said he wasn't making money on it, but loved the location and staff and felt it was a part of the neighborhood so has been keeping it going. this one really hurts- we've been going there since it opened... always consistent food (not tip-top, but good) and friendly, decent service that remembers the locals. we're there about once a month (at least) with the kids. will probably be replaced by a duane reade or idiot bar for the idiots that come and puke/piss all over the neighborhood.
and speaking of rents... Schiller's is closing!
... was told their rent is doubling from 30k to 60. mcnally has said he wasn't making money on it, but loved the location and staff and felt it was a part of the neighborhood so has been keeping it going. this one really hurts- we've been going there since it opened... always consistent food (not tip-top, but good) and friendly, decent service that remembers the locals. we're there about once a month (at least) with the kids. will probably be replaced by a duane reade or idiot bar for the idiots that come and puke/piss all over the neighborhood.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
You alert the train crew that there is a sick passenger. What else can you do? In most cases like this, they will help her off the train and set her up with station crew. 5 minutes tops.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I let the other guy deal with her. we talked briefly about whether he'd be staying on the train to help.. he said yes. so hands washed and all of that.
massraider
Footballguy
Schiller's had a very solid cheese steak, back in the day, dunno if it was still on menu.also- not sure what happened to change the zoning/regulations... but not feeling optimistic about what this proliferation of big-box stores (Target, especially) is going to do to the city. between ridiculous rents and these things- I feel for the smaller business and individual.
and speaking of rents... Schiller's is closing!
The rent thing in Manhattan......it's just gonna be Duane Reades, banks, and Starbucks, and a whole bunch of rotating places that give it a shot, get closed down, and empty storefronts. Sucks.
massraider
Footballguy
Shakespeare in the Park has returned!
Free performances of Shakespeare, tickets are a first come, first served basis, you gotta line up in the morning, wait on a line that stretches through the park, and return at night for the show.
I've done this off and on for years, it's a power move on a date.
There are ways around waiting on line, oinline lottery, being a patron, paying a homeless guy to hold your place, but every time I have done the line it's been fun. People chilling, playing frisbee, local deli that delivers to you on the line (''I'm close to 72nd street, wearing a blue hoodie, give me an egg sandwich and an iced coffee...'').
Free performances of Shakespeare, tickets are a first come, first served basis, you gotta line up in the morning, wait on a line that stretches through the park, and return at night for the show.
I've done this off and on for years, it's a power move on a date.
There are ways around waiting on line, oinline lottery, being a patron, paying a homeless guy to hold your place, but every time I have done the line it's been fun. People chilling, playing frisbee, local deli that delivers to you on the line (''I'm close to 72nd street, wearing a blue hoodie, give me an egg sandwich and an iced coffee...'').
El Floppo
Footballguy
I've tried this once- showed up, obviously too late, saw the line and bailed. I've never gotten to see it.
talk to me about when you need to get there and how long it all takes? I'd love to do it, but really don't have the time.
El Floppo
Footballguy
they've changed their menu up a bit in the last few years. still have the french onion soup, moules frites and roast chicken... other than that the menu is different than day 1. their tacos are always surprisingly good... as is their $8 frozen marguerita.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Whatever allows you to sleep through the night...
I let the other guy deal with her. we talked briefly about whether he'd be staying on the train to help.. he said yes. so hands washed and all of that.
El Floppo
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
7:30 to me is the magic number. Gotta be early in the performance schedule, people rush later in the schedule.
Folding chair, ear buds, battery pack.
Worth looking into other options. Lottery and such.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
oh- that's not too bad. I feel like I got there around that time... but must've been towards the end of the run as you say.
how long are you there?
massraider
Footballguy
Redwes25
Footballguy
I could barely live in that neighborhood at 25. How you do it with kids is beyond me.also- not sure what happened to change the zoning/regulations... but not feeling optimistic about what this proliferation of big-box stores (Target, especially) is going to do to the city. between ridiculous rents and these things- I feel for the smaller business and individual.
and speaking of rents... Schiller's is closing!
Waingro
Footballguy
I have attempted the lottery a number of times and have come up empty every time. Would love to score some tix this summer though so going to keep on entering.
I agree with you, great idea for a date night.
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massraider
Footballguy
Yeah, I never ever tried, I always assumed that your experience was the common one (I mean, it's called a lottery....).
I have days off in mid week, and can do it, I think the best thing is to make arrangements with someone to grab them. College kid, dog-walker, whomever.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
So here is a dilemma for you New Yorkers. Our tenants are moving out in August. To recap, we own a 4 story townhouse in Bed Stuy, not one of those super nice blocks but centrally located and the house is in pretty good shape. We are debating whether we seek new tenants (questionable 3 bedroom, grandfathered by building code workarounds) or go the Air BNB route. I'm on the fence because in general I think Air BNB has really hurt the renter. Our block is lousy with Air BNBs and they are making a killing, but our space is not the typical unit for that. We would have to charge more than a studio or one bedroom but families need to Air BNB too, right? But as a 3 bedroom, our rental pool is families (unlikely based on the hood) and a group of 3 students (pains in my ###, unreliable).
Not sure what to do here. And we have to live underneath whatever we do, so that is a factor.
Not sure what to do here. And we have to live underneath whatever we do, so that is a factor.
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Major
Footballguy
Yep. Really sad to hear this. I remember when Pastis got to be too much of a scene, Schillers was my spot. Can't remember how many dates a Yung Major took to Schillers. I remember it being kinda off the radar early on which gives you cool points and improves your chances of gettingand speaking of rents... Schiller's is closing!
. Always a good atmosphere, quality food/drink and never too snooty. Last time I was living in NYC, I was staying on Rivington off Orchard. Loved walking over for a casual lunch or dinner. RIP
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Major
Footballguy
Rent out the bedrooms individually on Air BNB? Seems like an easier way to fill it but definitely more work.
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RUSF18
Footballguy
The good thing about AirBNB is that you can list your unit as being available for August starting today if you want. Maybe see how bookings are going early on and re-evaluate in a month or so? That would still leave plenty of time to find a typical tenant and you can't really take the reverse approach.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Another positive is I would have a whole apartment available for out of town friends and family to stay in when they visit. Assuming I can make enough the rest of the time, that may be the deciding factor.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Waingro
Footballguy
This is exactly what my brother is doing with his BK air BNB.Nick Vermeil said:
We have family coming into town for 2 weeks in Aug and he blocked it off for them. Saves them from having to book accommodations and gives them easy access to Manhattan.
They blocked off the unit some time ago since it stays consistently booked well in advance. It makes them more money but it's definitely more work. Most of the work comes from managing the online bookings and cleaning, but they've hired a cleaning crew to come in after every booking.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
The mamangement is definitely a check in the "con" column since that will all fall on me. How big is your brothers bnb if you don't mind me asking?
Waingro
Footballguy
It's a 3 bedroom in Bushwick. He also does not live in the house so never really has to meet the visitors. House is locked by a password coded lock. They share the PW with the guests then change it after.
massraider
Footballguy
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/fashion/bleecker-street-shopping-empty-storefronts.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=http://m.facebook.com/
Interesting story on what's happening to Bleecker st. and the West Village in general
Interesting story on what's happening to Bleecker st. and the West Village in general
jamny
Footballguy
Really good article, thanks. It reminds me of Brookfield Place. You walk around and all the high end shops are empty of costumers. And they just add more below ground leading towards the Oculus.
Luckily, we haven't had the gentrification hit where I live in Queens yet but it is starting a bit. Everything I need is within walking distance. But a nearby area (Grand Avenue) is starting to fall apart. Lots of vacant stores and what moves in are nail salons, banks, drug stores and 99 cent stores. That area is declining and I'm nervous about it spreading to where I live.
El Floppo
Footballguy
very interesting. I'm usually not over there, but had to ride home from my kids' school in Chelsea and bleeker's the best way. was amazed at all the closed stores.
Bowery's been going through this, but I think still on the upswing (or at the very least, plateau)... but even my Ave A has been hit, where we're seeing a bunch of spots sitting empty. I mentioned Schiller's closing in August because of rents. the LES went crazy- gluten-free cupcake stores, macarons, endless art galleries... this is going to crash and hard when those leases come up. I just don't get wtf is buying all this expensive gluten free crap or art.
massraider
Footballguy
I have friends that own (and have owned until recently) bars and restaurants in that area (West village). It's bizarre down there. In a neighborhood that wealthy, one would expect some bustling spots, but you simply don't see it.
In general, the landlords holding out for rent are, I don't want to say a problem, but empty stores everywhere is really bad. I wish there was kind of an incentive to keep these tenants in there.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I thought the bars and restaurants were still in good shape over there... are they getting hit like the stores?
eta: is it lack of customers or landlords gauging them for higher rents? or both?
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El Floppo
Footballguy
there's a strip of NYCHA owned properties on ave A between 2nd and 3rd- used to have lots of neighborhoody little shops and restaurants (there was a two-boots sit-down spot there). when the neighborhood starting heating up 15+ years ago, one of the little stores was replaced by a nice kid's store... toys, furniture, clothing- but a little pricey (not a lot). after that place moved in, you could see the $$ in NYCHA's eyes light up, so they either forced out or refused to renew the leases for the other spots, hoping to cash in on the wave. the wave never happened, and that row of stores sat empty for years. I suppose that numbers supported letting that happen over renting at cheaper prices... either way, sucked for the neighborhood.
RC94
Footballguy
I think it's perfectly fine to say the landlords are a problem, because they are. They will let the stores stay empty for a long time too because they will get tax write-offs. When I was in commercial real estate I heard lots of stories about landlords who do things that would seem bizarre to normal people, but they don't care. One of the strangest stories involves office space more than retail, but it's basically the same thing.
There is a guy named Frank Ring who made his real estate empire the old fashioned way - he inherited it. He had hundreds of millions of dollars worth of office buildings, largely in the Chelsea and south midtown areas. For some reason he had no interest in renting them out so he would make ridiculous demands in his leases, such as saying that the tenant can't have more than 4 people in the space at any given time, this for a 5000 square foot space. Obviously nobody would ever agree to that, so he had something like 1 million square feet of empty office space for years.
Unfortunately for Ring, his father had partners and they eventually got fed up. They made a deal with Extell, who finally forced Ring to sell. Here is an interesting article about that: https://therealdeal.com/2014/10/21/gary-barnett-reveals-how-he-beat-out-rivals-for-the-ring-portfolio/
We are seeing similar things from other landlords for these retail spaces.
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massraider
Footballguy
That's what you would think, but it's not the case. To answer your last question, I think it's both.
Had a buddy open an Italian restaurant there, Pagani. Bleecker and 7th. Nice place, open air walls in the nice weather. Rent killed them. They had a good little crowd, but zero lunch business, and they never made money. 50 grand amonth, or whatever it was. Place was doing business, and these guys are smart businessmen, it should still be open. But it needed to be doing gangbusters business to compensate for the rent.
7th Ave itself sucks. Caliente Cab Co, freaking Sushi Samba, Jekyll and Hyde's, that's some very not cool spots all in a row, they must have 30 year leases. I've seen ropers outside those larger joints, trying to get passerby to come inside. Not a good look for the West Village.
Another friend has the Garret, a little speakeasy type joint above Five Guys right there. Rent is super, super cheap, and they make money. But the place isn't BUSY, and it should be. It is tailor-made for the West Village crowd, white people with money that want a classy local joint. Their place in the East Village, not nearly as cool a space, is doing much, much better.
Maybe the West Village is aging, and the neighborhood people don't go out
I mean, how many single people that go out on the regular can afford a West Village place? Lot of people that used to go out live in that area.You will see people in the dive bars there, but no place is crushing it.
massraider
Footballguy
Saw it on a much smaller scale when I was living in Aspen. Two or three guys owned all the real estate in town, and would let places sit empty. They didn't need the money, and wanted a certain number, even though places were failing at those numbers.
massraider
Footballguy
mrip541
Footballguy
One space near my old apt used to be a Sleepys and it's been vacant for at least 5 years. I don't understand how that's the best strategy.
El Floppo
Footballguy
with the young family, we barely go out- so a spot outside our little 5 block radius (or even 2 blockThat's what you would think, but it's not the case. To answer your last question, I think it's both.
Had a buddy open an Italian restaurant there, Pagani. Bleecker and 7th. Nice place, open air walls in the nice weather. Rent killed them. They had a good little crowd, but zero lunch business, and they never made money. 50 grand amonth, or whatever it was. Place was doing business, and these guys are smart businessmen, it should still be open. But it needed to be doing gangbusters business to compensate for the rent.
7th Ave itself sucks. Caliente Cab Co, freaking Sushi Samba, Jekyll and Hyde's, that's some very not cool spots all in a row, they must have 30 year leases. I've seen ropers outside those larger joints, trying to get passerby to come inside. Not a good look for the West Village.
Another friend has the Garret, a little speakeasy type joint above Five Guys right there. Rent is super, super cheap, and they make money. But the place isn't BUSY, and it should be. It is tailor-made for the West Village crowd, white people with money that want a classy local joint. Their place in the East Village, not nearly as cool a space, is doing much, much better.
Maybe the West Village is aging, and the neighborhood people don't go out
You will see people in the dive bars there, but no place is crushing it.
) is outside of our knowledge.but the garret looks great- google says it's a second floor spot which must make it harder than normal to fill. what's their EVil bar?... oh... just googled- it's on ave a... lol see previous sentence
El Floppo
Footballguy
the NYCHA strip I was talking about was vacant for about that long at least.
there's a spot on A and 2nd now that used to be a kids' furniture store (like old school, people come from all over to buy their furniture there type of store, not a yippity yo bs flash-in-the pan spot like they have now) and then sat empty before Chase moved in. Chase moved out a couple years back and it just sits there. my Ave A citibank spot closed too. not sure what's moving in to either of those places.
we'd joke that it was only banks and duane-reades moving in... now with banks closing, not sure who is going to pay those crazy rents.
El Floppo
Footballguy
oh... and you know its summer time in the EVil- all the fair-weather "anarchist/homeless" kids and their dogs have been arriving in flocks over the last couple weeks. they're either asleep on the sidewalk or running wild-eyed... somewhere... in a hurry.
eta: I figure there's a costume shop somewhere at the bridges or tunnels that hands out their outfits. heaven forbid you look different... that would go against whatever it is they're trying to achieve every summer.
eta: I figure there's a costume shop somewhere at the bridges or tunnels that hands out their outfits. heaven forbid you look different... that would go against whatever it is they're trying to achieve every summer.
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massraider
Footballguy
It's teeny, 15 people in there looks good. But they'll shove 80 in there.with the young family, we barely go out- so a spot outside our little 5 block radius (or even 2 block
but the garret looks great- google says it's a second floor spot which must make it harder than normal to fill.
You have to go into the 5 Guys to enter it, walk right up to the counter, then bang a left, and go upstairs. Typical NYC weird spot.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
A lot of people who own homes in the West Village aren't home very much. They have homes in other cities, beach houses, etc. which makes building up a regular clientele at a restaurant difficult. My boss lives in that hood and he is out of town half the year and every weekend in summer. Those that are there all the time are commuting to other neighborhoods during the day, so bye bye lunch crowd. It is also a tough neighborhood for tourists to navigate. Couple all of that with high rents and restaurants are going to struggle.That's what you would think, but it's not the case. To answer your last question, I think it's both.
Had a buddy open an Italian restaurant there, Pagani. Bleecker and 7th. Nice place, open air walls in the nice weather. Rent killed them. They had a good little crowd, but zero lunch business, and they never made money. 50 grand amonth, or whatever it was. Place was doing business, and these guys are smart businessmen, it should still be open. But it needed to be doing gangbusters business to compensate for the rent.
7th Ave itself sucks. Caliente Cab Co, freaking Sushi Samba, Jekyll and Hyde's, that's some very not cool spots all in a row, they must have 30 year leases. I've seen ropers outside those larger joints, trying to get passerby to come inside. Not a good look for the West Village.
Another friend has the Garret, a little speakeasy type joint above Five Guys right there. Rent is super, super cheap, and they make money. But the place isn't BUSY, and it should be. It is tailor-made for the West Village crowd, white people with money that want a classy local joint. Their place in the East Village, not nearly as cool a space, is doing much, much better.
Maybe the West Village is aging, and the neighborhood people don't go out
You will see people in the dive bars there, but no place is crushing it.
El Floppo
Footballguy
oh- love that. it's like Angels' Share (my old go-to date spot), except replacing the shabu-shabu joint with 5 guys.
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