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Footballguy
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
We we will arrive in NYC at La Guardia at 6pm next Wednesday night. We are staying at the Dumont NYC which is on the east side, I believe? 3 blocks east of the ESB, if that means anything.
So as to what we have, which is limited:
Wednesday - need a nicer dinner place, maybe a good time to get Times Square out of the way? Something else fun to get started? Open to whatever for dinner. Good day to pick up the week metro pass?
Thursday - Tonight Show tickets were a bust. Applied and said we should have them, but nah. So at some point will need to make it to the Javits Center to get my CE course stuff, but otherwise completely open this day. Maybe a morning run to Central Park? Wife wants to get the Statue of Liberty in, and they say morning is better for this. Hit Statue and 9/11 in the morning, then lunch and then free afternoon to evening.
Friday - Have CE class until 1pm then open until the evening when we have Les Mis at 8pm that night. Figure that eats the rest of the night, so have lunch/dinner and an afternoon to fill.
Saturday - completely open here. Might be a good time to spend in Central Park walking around?
Possibilities are a shorter time in something like the Met or MOMA, walking the Brooklyn Bridge, I don't know. What would be a good area to go and just walk around and people watch, etc?
So as to what we have, which is limited:
Wednesday - need a nicer dinner place, maybe a good time to get Times Square out of the way? Something else fun to get started? Open to whatever for dinner. Good day to pick up the week metro pass?
Thursday - Tonight Show tickets were a bust. Applied and said we should have them, but nah. So at some point will need to make it to the Javits Center to get my CE course stuff, but otherwise completely open this day. Maybe a morning run to Central Park? Wife wants to get the Statue of Liberty in, and they say morning is better for this. Hit Statue and 9/11 in the morning, then lunch and then free afternoon to evening.
Friday - Have CE class until 1pm then open until the evening when we have Les Mis at 8pm that night. Figure that eats the rest of the night, so have lunch/dinner and an afternoon to fill.
Saturday - completely open here. Might be a good time to spend in Central Park walking around?
Possibilities are a shorter time in something like the Met or MOMA, walking the Brooklyn Bridge, I don't know. What would be a good area to go and just walk around and people watch, etc?
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
So Thursday morning start at Ground Zero, work down to Statue of Liberty, then to the Brooklyn Bridge and end up for lunch at Katz's Deli - is that too much? Maybe Katz's then the bridge?
gump
Footballguy
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
That's tight. You won't have long at the memorial but you may not need it. You are boned for lunch unless you like concession stand fare or can wait until 2 or 3. You have to give up a few things to do the statue trip which is why I've only ever gone once.
Mad Cow
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So here is the question. In talking to a few people, they say the best time to do ESB or 30 Rock is night time. There are tickets you can buy with no waiting for $30 more. How long of a line are we talking? If it saves an hour, honestly, I will pay it. 20 minutes, not so much.
Mad Cow
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Well consider we will be firmly entrenched in MST, and we should be good. Late breakfast, then late lunch and late dinner.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
If you want to visit the statue I can't stop you. Honestly what I would do is head first thing to battery park, look at the statue across the water. Walk up to the memorial. Get a bagel after and hop on the a train, go one stop to Brooklyn. Walk the Brooklyn bridge then head up to Katz for lunch by 1/1:30. But that's me.Well consider we will be firmly entrenched in MST, and we should be good. Late breakfast, then late lunch and late dinner.
Mad Cow
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I hear you and trust you. My wife, however, is very set in her determination to see the statue.
Perhaps we can get away with riding the ferry and not getting off, but we shall see.
Gawain
Footballguy
Best time to do ESB is early morning IMO. Lines aren't there, no one's rushing you. The damn vultures aren't set up yet.
I guess the lights of the city are neat to see, but without a sense of NYC geography, I'd think you want to go when it's light. If you show up early enough, say 8ish there's no need to break out the extra cash. If you are trying to go up on a holiday, then it's worth it. Don't buy your ticket on the street.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
If you just want to do the ferry and not get off Staten Island ferry is the way to go. It gets pretty close.I hear you and trust you. My wife, however, is very set in her determination to see the statue.
RUSF18
Footballguy
I wouldn't say anything is dumb, but on a short trip, doing both just isn't worth the time.
Mad Cow
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OK, so far. . .
Wed - arrive, check in, get dinner, walk around and bed
Thurs - get up early-ish 7am or so and get a Central Park or maybe East River run in (need idea for that one). 10 am have the 9/11 memorial, noon Statue of Liberty. Around 2pm hit Katz's for lunch or perhaps Grimaldi's Pizza and do the Brooklyn Bridge. Pick up my class stuff later afternoon. Hit Top of the Rock around 6pm so get daylight, beginnings of evening. Dinner and then ??
Friday - classes in AM. Have time open from 1pm to about 4pm. From 4pm to 8pm, see Times Square and walk about, see Broadway, get dinner. 8pm show at the Imperial.
Saturday - wide open
Wed - arrive, check in, get dinner, walk around and bed
Thurs - get up early-ish 7am or so and get a Central Park or maybe East River run in (need idea for that one). 10 am have the 9/11 memorial, noon Statue of Liberty. Around 2pm hit Katz's for lunch or perhaps Grimaldi's Pizza and do the Brooklyn Bridge. Pick up my class stuff later afternoon. Hit Top of the Rock around 6pm so get daylight, beginnings of evening. Dinner and then ??
Friday - classes in AM. Have time open from 1pm to about 4pm. From 4pm to 8pm, see Times Square and walk about, see Broadway, get dinner. 8pm show at the Imperial.
Saturday - wide open
Mad Cow
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So bump, and a question. We have seen a lot of museums when we were in Italy a little over a year ago. We loved it, but at the same time, are thinking with such limited time would want to focus. If we were to have an hour or 2 in 1 museum, which would you choose? Met? MOMA? Natural History?
FWIW we will be hitting up the Smithsonian in June on an extended family trip to DC.
FWIW we will be hitting up the Smithsonian in June on an extended family trip to DC.
Koya
Footballguy
Me personally is Museum of Natural History. Just awesome... but for most and the most unique "impact" the Met is like the King of museums, especially when they have a kick ### program / showing going on. It's like the classics of the classics.
Hard to go wrong with either of them though, so if you have a topical preference, go with it.
I'll also suggest, especially with limited time, the Guggenheim which, just due to it's architecture, is an experience like no other, anywhere. That depends a lot on what is showing at the time perhaps as far as subject matter, though.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I like Nat History for kids, but dinosaur bones and animal dioramas arent exactly my thing.
Met is massive and can be exhausting. You need a surgical strike to visit- temple of dundur, frank lloyd wright room, 20th century painting rooms and/or special exhibit that takes your fancy. Walking quickly between those gives you a sense of the rest without getting bogged down by feeling like you "have" to see the rest of the stuff.
But MoMA, IMO is where you go to see Art with capital A. Can skip some rooms and just hit the masters... seeing some of these things in person, like Starry Night, is breathtaking. Unless youre not a fan of the modern masters like van Gogh, Picasso, Klimt, Cezanne etc.
Guggenheim is an amazing building, but terrible for art due to the ramps making any rectangular frame or artpiece look out of kilter with ramping floor as your "horizon". Its also the furthest, up north a bit. That said, a cool show there now and the building is amazing/iconic.
New Whitney is another great building and in amazing location to combine with the High Line (which should be visited). Other than the Biennial, I've always found the art missable.
Or go the Frick for the Vermeers.
Met is massive and can be exhausting. You need a surgical strike to visit- temple of dundur, frank lloyd wright room, 20th century painting rooms and/or special exhibit that takes your fancy. Walking quickly between those gives you a sense of the rest without getting bogged down by feeling like you "have" to see the rest of the stuff.
But MoMA, IMO is where you go to see Art with capital A. Can skip some rooms and just hit the masters... seeing some of these things in person, like Starry Night, is breathtaking. Unless youre not a fan of the modern masters like van Gogh, Picasso, Klimt, Cezanne etc.
Guggenheim is an amazing building, but terrible for art due to the ramps making any rectangular frame or artpiece look out of kilter with ramping floor as your "horizon". Its also the furthest, up north a bit. That said, a cool show there now and the building is amazing/iconic.
New Whitney is another great building and in amazing location to combine with the High Line (which should be visited). Other than the Biennial, I've always found the art missable.
Or go the Frick for the Vermeers.
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
So working on a new itinerary for comments, but quick question - would a visit to Coney Island just for the sights be something cool or not? I cannot say we would do the amusement park because we have been to many bigger ones and love them. Just for the nostalgia/sight-seeing really. Looks like it would be a fairly quick subway ride.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I personally would say no. It's likely to still be kind of cold and a lot of the nostalgia is gone now. You would be at least an hour and half total on the subway, so I would stay focused on Manhattan.
Mad Cow
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Cool. I am trying to fit things relatively close together at this point then will have to get restaurants nearby. Anyone have any must-see or must-eat places to throw out there?
BTW looking at it, looks like I can be at the East River in 2 blocks from my hotel, so figure just head that way and there are running paths? Looks to be something that heads south to the Brooklyn Bridge at least. How far roughly from the UN to the Brooklyn Bridge?
ETA what is the best way from La Guardia to hotel? Just grab a taxi or is the subway an option?
BTW looking at it, looks like I can be at the East River in 2 blocks from my hotel, so figure just head that way and there are running paths? Looks to be something that heads south to the Brooklyn Bridge at least. How far roughly from the UN to the Brooklyn Bridge?
ETA what is the best way from La Guardia to hotel? Just grab a taxi or is the subway an option?
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Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Taxi. Always taxi. Wait for a yellow cab or arrange your own car ahead of time. DO NOT get in a car with someone at luggage pickup who asks you if you need a taxi. No matter how many times I tell people this, they still get in these cars. It's a scam. Just wait for the yellow.
jamny
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Moves quick even if the line seems enormous.
Uber is a good play as well as mentioned.
jamny
Footballguy
Pretty much. The bus system is really good too. You can download the mta app that tells you where the buses are.
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
We take the bus all the time with the kids, but ITs slower. Crosstown, maybe, otherwise stick w subway, uber and cabs.
Mta bustime app Is pretty great though.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I know there is a flat rate to midtown, maybe the $45 I quoted is from JFK? It doesn't apply to me, I go to Brooklyn Heights... So it costs more to go to Brooklyn Heights than Midtown, go figure.
There is no subway directly to any airport. Airtrain connects to an A for JFK and I'm 99.9% there is no train for LGA.
If you're traveling for work, I assume carfare is expensed. If you're traveling for personal reasons, hopefully you have the extra $40-$50 for a cab or money for LTP.
In my early 20's I used public transportation for the airport 2 or 3 times, what a ####### nightmare! Luckily, unless something goes terribly wrong, that is a thing of the distant past.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Maybe it's changed- but I've never payed a flat fare to or from LGA. it's usually around $25 to/from the EVil... and super fast.
IIRC, JFK is $52 or $55 flat rate.
you can take the subway to a bus for LGA... dont' remember exactly how to do either, but if you want to save $25 and don't mind the hassle, that's the way to do it.
I used to use the Carey bus from Grand Central or Port Authority when I was younger.
IIRC, JFK is $52 or $55 flat rate.
you can take the subway to a bus for LGA... dont' remember exactly how to do either, but if you want to save $25 and don't mind the hassle, that's the way to do it.
I used to use the Carey bus from Grand Central or Port Authority when I was younger.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Correct. Usually they'll pick up at the "passenger pickup" area vs the taxi lines.
You'll be fine using subways for the rest of your trip. It's just not anywhere near worth the time/effort to use public transportation for the airports. Then you add in baggage...kill me.
eta: Newark is doable. At least the train takes you directly to the airport monorail. But then you're at EWR which is awful.
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El Floppo
Footballguy
right... you have to call them when you have your bags and then meet them at passenger pick up area # whatever. but it's a painless process.
Koya
Footballguy
The NY area airport situation is really pretty awful. JFK's gotten a lot better depending on terminal and at least they now have rail to connect, but it's can be a pain with luggage between the need for the AT, then LIRR / Subway, maybe a transfer, shoot me. Though in an ironic twist, my ####ty LIRR line is actually pretty good for the airport, and I've used transit rather than driving at times.
LGA is a hell hole. At least they are undergoing "some" improvement now, and more importantly are eyeing like $3-4 Billion in upgrades to make it a respectable first world airport. We will see how many of us are alive to see that gig get completed.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I'll still take a cab. The subway from the airport is for losers and immigrants. :trumpquote:
Major
Footballguy
I'd pass if just visiting. I lived in NYC 10 years and only visited Coney Island once to see a concert. Really far out there and time consuming.
Major
Footballguy
Yep. The only time I'd take a train from the airport is if you're flying into Newark and then cab it from Penn. LGA and JFK are a major PIA. With all those bags, stairs and crowds it's not worth the hassle.
They also have these group buses for $15 or so that drop you off at the major train stations. If you're on a budget and not in a rush, it's not a bad option.
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Mad Cow
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So food, talk to me about great places that are lesser known near places we are likely to go. I know Katz's, but you just never know about those articles that say the 25 restaurants every New Yorker should visit, etc. I have a couple of breakfasts, 3 lunches and 4 dinners to fill. Would like a nicer place one night, say the night of Les Mis on Friday, but can go either way.
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