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OK team NYFBG.  Wife and I have a VERY rare, VERY late notice night out tomorrow.  What should we do?

Dinner is a given and we'll find a place near whatever event we purse.  

What's happening in NYC tomorrow that I may have (did) miss?

 
OK team NYFBG.  Wife and I have a VERY rare, VERY late notice night out tomorrow.  What should we do?

Dinner is a given and we'll find a place near whatever event we purse.  

What's happening in NYC tomorrow that I may have (did) miss?
Should I drop $500 on Dave Chapelle tickets?

 
It's like a freakin' swamp out there today. I hope this next shower coming through cools things off.
I'm just hoping it happens before or after I leave so I can squeeze in the citibike ride home. 

not in the mood to deal with the subway this afternoon.

 
Do it if you havent seen him live.  He is great.  Ive heard from a few people that the show is amazing.  Tomorrow he performs with Childish Gambino who is also an amazing artist if you arent familiar with him. 
I probably should have but the wife will like dolly better. Probably a once in a lifetime. I'll likely get another shot at chapelle. 

 
Hello Dolly tickets with Bette Midler. Front row center mezzanine. Less thean face on stubhub!  :thumbup:
Nice! 

Gb randomly ended up in town tonight with his son. Bought stubhub Hamilton tickets and found a last-second cancellation for Nobu downtown. I don't want to ask him how much it's all costing him but a pretty nice last-second night

 
Heading back next week - nieces wedding on Long Island (the Milleridge Inn  :X ), but Mrs. Koya and I are staying in the city.  Got a really good rate at the Muse, not first choice but also was a gift so no complaints whatsoever.  

Heading in Wed night, staying on the Island, then in the City Thurs-Mon.  Seeing a couple shows, will ask the wifey which and check back in. No idea as to restaurants and all, but it's not like our first and only time there so likely just play it loose. 

Thurs. and Sun night I'll have some time to kill, prob meet up with a couple friends at some fratty bar that my wife would hate. :banned:   

 
Heading back next week - nieces wedding on Long Island (the Milleridge Inn  :X ), but Mrs. Koya and I are staying in the city.  Got a really good rate at the Muse, not first choice but also was a gift so no complaints whatsoever.  

Heading in Wed night, staying on the Island, then in the City Thurs-Mon.  Seeing a couple shows, will ask the wifey which and check back in. No idea as to restaurants and all, but it's not like our first and only time there so likely just play it loose. 

Thurs. and Sun night I'll have some time to kill, prob meet up with a couple friends at some fratty bar that my wife would hate. :banned:   
Welcome back. Walk on the right and find a trash can you filthy tourist. 

 
You could do a lot worse than the Milleridge. Be happy that the Huntington Townhouse is no longer around. Now THAT was a dump!

 
You could do a lot worse than the Milleridge. Be happy that the Huntington Townhouse is no longer around. Now THAT was a dump!
Milleridge is also now under new ownership, so perhaps they've cleaned up the place.  And yeah, I attended a number of events (business) at the Townhouse. oof. 

At least Milleridge is convenient, just 10 min up from where I used to live in Glen Cove, and where my parents are in Sea Cliff. 

 
Once that squall blew past, the sky was absolutely amazing
I went to get pizza and ran out with my camera when I got home but it was too late. One of the most amazing skies I've ever seen. Full black with a band of orange underneath and bright blue below that. Unreal.

 
So, update:

Going to see 1984 (pretty damn appropriate :sadbanana:  ) with Olivia Wilde on Broadway and Napoli, Brooklyn at the Roundabout Theater.  

 
To be specific, Olivia is in the play.  Not my date. 

:kicksrock:

Maybe we can meet backstage and get her and Mrs. Koya in a threesome?  I gotta chance, right? (Mrs. Koya might I suppose)

 
anybody else besides Nick and I catch the eclipse? I mentioned it in the dedicated thread- but started watching from the office through the windows. zipped downtown around 2:15 so I'd be at home with the family on the roof of our building for the apex and then zipped back up (citibike). stinking hot today. family was a bit underwhelmed, but I enjoyed getting to share it with them- hope the kids remember it the way I remember the last one when I was a kid. also got to share the glasses on the way out with different shop owner/workers I know on the block, city cop, fed ex and other delivery guys, women waiting at a bus-stop and taxi driver. 

and my mom decided to spoil us by getting us hamilton tickets for next july. next july. amazingly generous of her- and I am psyched to go... but tbh, I'd rather use that money to pay for music lessons and whatnot for the kids. or food. I'll still pull the hamilton lottery daily and see what happens.

 
My part of Brooklyn is going crazy over J'Ouvert/West Indian Day parade. The music from outside is 80db inside on my couch, and the security was crazy this year. Every street to the parade had a police checkpoint so you couldn't get to the parade without being wanded down. There was a cop car on both sides of every side street. I was out early this morning and in a couple spots it looked like there were more police than revelers.

 
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Had to go into NJ after work yesterday, so I drove and parked in a garage, left at 530, by 7 oclock I had gone a total of 12 miles. I don't know how people do that on a daily basis. 

 
Had to go into NJ after work yesterday, so I drove and parked in a garage, left at 530, by 7 oclock I had gone a total of 12 miles. I don't know how people do that on a daily basis. 
once we lose our apartment (which is bound to happen one of these years- rental), we'll have to be one of those people as I can't afford anything comparable in the city.

and speaking of commute- first day of school! reminds me how much I hate the subways... loved only using the citibike for commute during the summer without having to take the kids to school.

and speaking of school... what did you end up doing? did you sue the city and get lil' skippy red-shirted? or is he starting school today... kindergarten, right?

 
once we lose our apartment (which is bound to happen one of these years- rental), we'll have to be one of those people as I can't afford anything comparable in the city.

and speaking of commute- first day of school! reminds me how much I hate the subways... loved only using the citibike for commute during the summer without having to take the kids to school.

and speaking of school... what did you end up doing? did you sue the city and get lil' skippy red-shirted? or is he starting school today... kindergarten, right?
Kindergarten. I've already had a lengthy chat with the Superintendent - nobody redshirts Kindergarten, nobody... However, if you really press, and you think your child will be better repeating Kindergarten, that option is on the table. 

You need to read your lease agreement - I can prob tell you if you're locked in just based on the rent increase. If you resigned this year for a 1 year lease and it didn't go up, you could be stabilized, 2 years 2%. 

 
Kindergarten. I've already had a lengthy chat with the Superintendent - nobody redshirts Kindergarten, nobody... However, if you really press, and you think your child will be better repeating Kindergarten, that option is on the table. 

You need to read your lease agreement - I can prob tell you if you're locked in just based on the rent increase. If you resigned this year for a 1 year lease and it didn't go up, you could be stabilized, 2 years 2%. 
We were able to do this with our son a couple of years ago.  I have heard horror stories of kids getting put into first grade if you try to redshirt so you went the right route.

My son was born on Christmas Eve so was the youngest kid in his grade and the extra year really helped him.  To be honest the city needs to push back the start date to Sept 1 or somewhere around there to line up with the rest of the country.   

 
Kindergarten. I've already had a lengthy chat with the Superintendent - nobody redshirts Kindergarten, nobody... However, if you really press, and you think your child will be better repeating Kindergarten, that option is on the table. 

You need to read your lease agreement - I can prob tell you if you're locked in just based on the rent increase. If you resigned this year for a 1 year lease and it didn't go up, you could be stabilized, 2 years 2%. 
the issue isn't rent going up. the landlords are french- we know them... nice people with whom we went through a building fire, managing the rebuild for them (and doing all manner of other things around the apartment over the last 15 years). rent has been more than reasonable, but not a stabilzed apartment. it's 3% every year.. or sometimes every two years. but also went down a bunch after the fire. the same apartment above us (but without a patio) has been renting out for more than 50% more than what we pay.

the issue is that they'll sell the place. and then we're out and living in poughkeepsie.

yeah- we had this conversation when you first brought it up. nobody's allowed to redshirt. everybody wants to, and everybody thinks it's uniquely unfair to their kid because their kid is something soemthing something too young. and then the year progresses and the kid does just fine... even if there are kids almost a year older who are clearly more developed physically, emotionally and intellectually and capable of absorbing school better, especially at the beginning. and then 1st grade hits, and for the most part nobody remembers that their kid is something something something too young. unless Jr has other issues going on... he'll do just fine. but definitely push with the teacher to remind them that your kid is much younger (the teacher will know this and likely be working with and around it) and might need extra something. the only place I've seen this to be a legitimate issue is with sports at the younger ages- the better players tend to be the ones who are more developmentally advanced. but even that rounds out eventually.

 
Redwes25 said:
We were able to do this with our son a couple of years ago.  I have heard horror stories of kids getting put into first grade if you try to redshirt so you went the right route.

My son was born on Christmas Eve so was the youngest kid in his grade and the extra year really helped him.  To be honest the city needs to push back the start date to Sept 1 or somewhere around there to line up with the rest of the country.   
that's great... so there's hope for fc after all.

you went through this with NYC DOE, right? 

 
So is it pretty much a done deal that DeBlasio will win? How is there not even a decent opponent? He's hated even among the left.

Bo Dietl?...wtf!

 
Redwes25 said:
We were able to do this with our son a couple of years ago.  I have heard horror stories of kids getting put into first grade if you try to redshirt so you went the right route.

My son was born on Christmas Eve so was the youngest kid in his grade and the extra year really helped him.  To be honest the city needs to push back the start date to Sept 1 or somewhere around there to line up with the rest of the country.   
This is what pisses me off so much!!

Nowhere else in the country, at least the northeast - I can't speak for elsewhere... I've got a niece who is 14 months older than my son starting Kindergarten, per her school district guidelines in Pennsylvania. Nephew is a year younger and in NJ, will be 2 grades lower. Same for a friend's kid in Boston... It's ####### ridiculous!

 
that's great... so there's hope for fc after all.

you went through this with NYC DOE, right? 
No, through the principal and his teacher.  They can decide to hold a kid back.  NYC DOE is a complete disaster but you can find understanding teachers and principal that will now your kid and situation better.  Of course if he is a very smart kid he may be forced to stay on track.  

 
This is what pisses me off so much!!

Nowhere else in the country, at least the northeast - I can't speak for elsewhere... I've got a niece who is 14 months older than my son starting Kindergarten, per her school district guidelines in Pennsylvania. Nephew is a year younger and in NJ, will be 2 grades lower. Same for a friend's kid in Boston... It's ####### ridiculous!
Exactly, it pisses me off as well.  Nowhere in the country has the NYC schedule and holds to it.  

 
Yea, they're the worst... Navigating that is misery.
IME, it's all about finding the exact right person to deal with. 

we had to lobby for speech therapy for our kids- up and down process, but it was always about getting the right person on the phone or in person- and hanging up or moving on from the wrong one. but the right ones were all pretty great and decidedly on teh side of the kid above and beyond the parent or bureaucratic desires or requirements.

we've got middle school applications this year (Jr's in 5th grade)... and for district 2 it's a bizarre process. there are 4 or 5 really great schools that everybody wants to go to. BUT... you have to rank the schools in your application and if you don't rank one of those schools 1st, they won't bother to look at the application. so you only have a shot at only one. AND some of those schools have a screening process where they may not even take the application even if they were ranked 1st. so then you have to strategically rank the 2nd school as not one of those top schools but a school where you'd be ok going  :loco:  

and now I'm hearing the similar kind of conversation from our peers that you were having last year about wanting to redshirt. it doesn't make any sense... it's unfair... my kid should be able to (fill in the blank- do what we want them to do). and it's all true. and it might mean that Jr may not get into the best school for him after working really hard these last years and doing fantastically well... which would really suck.

but it somehow gets done every year, and somehow tends to work out. our friends who's kids end up at their next choice schools are all happy and thriving. 

 
El Floppo said:
the issue isn't rent going up. the landlords are french- we know them... nice people with whom we went through a building fire, managing the rebuild for them (and doing all manner of other things around the apartment over the last 15 years). rent has been more than reasonable, but not a stabilzed apartment. it's 3% every year.. or sometimes every two years. but also went down a bunch after the fire. the same apartment above us (but without a patio) has been renting out for more than 50% more than what we pay.

the issue is that they'll sell the place. and then we're out and living in poughkeepsie.

yeah- we had this conversation when you first brought it up. nobody's allowed to redshirt. everybody wants to, and everybody thinks it's uniquely unfair to their kid because their kid is something soemthing something too young. and then the year progresses and the kid does just fine... even if there are kids almost a year older who are clearly more developed physically, emotionally and intellectually and capable of absorbing school better, especially at the beginning. and then 1st grade hits, and for the most part nobody remembers that their kid is something something something too young. unless Jr has other issues going on... he'll do just fine. but definitely push with the teacher to remind them that your kid is much younger (the teacher will know this and likely be working with and around it) and might need extra something. the only place I've seen this to be a legitimate issue is with sports at the younger ages- the better players tend to be the ones who are more developmentally advanced. but even that rounds out eventually.
This is what you need to do from day 1.  I would try and set up a meeting with the teacher shortly after curriculum night and point out your kid's age and concerns.  Don't say you want to to hold him back but that you have concerns about his age.  The teacher is really your best advocate and if you can get her/him on your side you should be able to hold your child back and open communication with them is the best approach.

We also set up a meeting mid-year with the principal to say we had concerns but still hadn't made up our minds but wanted their thoughts and input on process.  Then come year end we did a full push to hold back and said we had kept an open mind through the year but we really think he is too young.  Hopefully, by then you have gotten teacher on your side.  

This was the process at a very good public school in Park Slope, Brooklyn.     

 
No, through the principal and his teacher.  They can decide to hold a kid back.  NYC DOE is a complete disaster but you can find understanding teachers and principal that will now your kid and situation better.  Of course if he is a very smart kid he may be forced to stay on track.  
oh- cool. 

but the school was within the NYC DOE, right? just making sure this didn't happen in a different school district.

eta: just saw your post above... nm. :thumbup:  

 
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oh- cool. 

but the school was within the NYC DOE, right? just making sure this didn't happen in a different school district.
yes, public school.  You can always pull your kid into private school and have him repeat a year when you bring him in. 

 
So is it pretty much a done deal that DeBlasio will win? How is there not even a decent opponent? He's hated even among the left.

Bo Dietl?...wtf!
i'm pissed I missed the debate last night. have to do a lot more research for the primary... I hate the idea of voting for him (again) but won't vote for people I know nothing about. as it stands, I'd either do a write-in or leave it blank.

 
I think I will write in El Floppo. Hopefully that can get some traction.  Or at least confuse someone.  

 
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Redwes25 said:
We were able to do this with our son a couple of years ago.  I have heard horror stories of kids getting put into first grade if you try to redshirt so you went the right route.

My son was born on Christmas Eve so was the youngest kid in his grade and the extra year really helped him.  To be honest the city needs to push back the start date to Sept 1 or somewhere around there to line up with the rest of the country.   
Wait, in NYC they start kids in Kindergarten if they turn 5 by then end of December?  Am I understanding this correctly?

 
Wait, in NYC they start kids in Kindergarten if they turn 5 by then end of December?  Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes and if you screw with the system so your kid doesn't go to Kindergarten in the City system, they'll put him/her right into first grade.

What I don't know is if someone moves into the city in 6th grade, that should be a 7th grader under the city system if they'll just bump the kid.

ETA: In Nassau county, it's generally a Dec 1 cutoff. Which means that a move across the county line can really change your approach. However the systems outside of the city (Nassau and Westchester) are generally much more amenable to holding a child back. NYC resists holding back with a passion

 
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Yo...that's crazy.  Completely different from everywhere else.

How does this impact your high school athletics?  I suppose since everyone is on the same playing field it's a bit moot.  Are a lot of people 'held back' in junior high?  Man, that's a LOT of people graduating at 17 instead of 18.

 
Yes and if you screw with the system so your kid doesn't go to Kindergarten in the City system, they'll put him/her right into first grade.

What I don't know is if someone moves into the city in 6th grade, that should be a 7th grader under the city system if they'll just bump the kid.

ETA: In Nassau county, it's generally a Dec 1 cutoff. Which means that a move across the county line can really change your approach. However the systems outside of the city (Nassau and Westchester) are generally much more amenable to holding a child back. NYC resists holding back with a passion
Once you pass first grade they don't skip you ahead.  We are in the same situation, Christmas birthday.  But we have opted for private school for a whole bunch of reasons.  

 
Once you pass first grade they don't skip you ahead.  We are in the same situation, Christmas birthday.  But we have opted for private school for a whole bunch of reasons.  
That's good to know. My daughter is April, so that's fine, but my son will likely be between the Dec 1 and Dec 31 cutoffs. Currently we're in Nassau, but may move in depending on work. I'd stay in Nassau if it meant that he could delay that grade.

 
Yes and if you screw with the system so your kid doesn't go to Kindergarten in the City system, they'll put him/her right into first grade.

What I don't know is if someone moves into the city in 6th grade, that should be a 7th grader under the city system if they'll just bump the kid.

ETA: In Nassau county, it's generally a Dec 1 cutoff. Which means that a move across the county line can really change your approach. However the systems outside of the city (Nassau and Westchester) are generally much more amenable to holding a child back. NYC resists holding back with a passion
The city used to ignore the issue and did not strictly enforce the rule (think in 2013 they actually changed DOE regulations to strictly enforce the rules).  I can understand the strict enforcement as you can't make decisions based on individual situations when you have over a million kids in NYC public schools.  However, they need to push back the date if they are going to have this hard and fast rule.  

 
The city used to ignore the issue and did not strictly enforce the rule (think in 2013 they actually changed DOE regulations to strictly enforce the rules).  I can understand the strict enforcement as you can't make decisions based on individual situations when you have over a million kids in NYC public schools.  However, they need to push back the date if they are going to have this hard and fast rule.  
:shrug:

somebody's always going to be the youngest and oldest, regardless of the date.

the issue for me is that NYC seems alone in using the calendar year I think. seems like most places use school year, which makes people who move in or out a bit out of sorts.

 

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