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Shefter's report is good enough for me. :)

Wow, so much for Keyshawn to Oakland.

Mr. Johnson, I have Green Bay on line 1 for you.

 
kevthegrad said:
Shefter's report is good enough for me. :)Wow, so much for Keyshawn to Oakland. Mr. Johnson, I have Green Bay on line 1 for you.
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Note to self: do not draft a Raiders WR. Man, that's a crowded house: Porter, Curry, Mike Williams, Gabriel, Taylor, Higgins, etc.
 
UCSBgerry said:
Note to self: do not draft a Raiders WR. Man, that's a crowded house: Porter, Curry, Mike Williams, Gabriel, Taylor, Higgins, etc.
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Not really. There will be a pecking order just like with any other team.Curry will start. Porter will start if he doesn't open his mouth or park in Big Al's parking space again.Taylor is likely to be the WR3 if he catches on, or even WR2 if Porter messes up. Taylor's never been special but just OK. If he doesn't catch on, no guarantee he makes it through camp without being cut.Williams has nothing guaranteed. He'll have a chance to make the team and have a role if he doesn't putz out like he did in DET (weight was just one issue -- he was also late to practices, running the wrong routes, not knowing the plays, etc.). WR4-6 if he makes the team. Gabriel wasn't a starter in OAK when he was there before (except when injuries hit), and showed after a short time in NE that he wasn't starter material. He's fine on a fly pattern, but lacks all around starter ability. WR3-5Higgins will have a year to learn and won't see the field much. Maybe the 5th WR this year, depending on the success of others.Say bye bye to Morant and Whitted, unless one or more of the above don't make the team.
 
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msommer said:
duaneok66 said:
msommer said:
Why?Why sign Travis Taylor?Why?
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tells you how bad the situation is in Oakland . . . of course, their problems would've been solved by taking Johnson in the 1st and another QB in the second . . .
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Maybe they are about to trade Porter...
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They are not going to trade Porter. They signed him to take a look at him. He will either catch on right away or be cut.....no big deal fellas.
 
jdraiders said:
msommer said:
duaneok66 said:
msommer said:
Why?Why sign Travis Taylor?Why?
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tells you how bad the situation is in Oakland . . . of course, their problems would've been solved by taking Johnson in the 1st and another QB in the second . . .
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Maybe they are about to trade Porter...
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They are not going to trade Porter. They signed him to take a look at him. He will either catch on right away or be cut.....no big deal fellas.
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it's not a big deal, but it goes to show you how desperate they are . . .
 
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In other news... does this say anything about Troy Williamson or S. Rice's stock on the rise. IIRC Marcus Robinson was released in December. Is anyone left besides these 2 - worthy of even a (very) late round flyer in MN?

 
Couch Potato said:
UCSBgerry said:
Note to self: do not draft a Raiders WR. Man, that's a crowded house: Porter, Curry, Mike Williams, Gabriel, Taylor, Higgins, etc.
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Not really. There will be a pecking order just like with any other team.Curry will start. Porter will start if he doesn't open his mouth or park in Big Al's parking space again.Taylor is likely to be the WR3 if he catches on, or even WR2 if Porter messes up. Taylor's never been special but just OK. If he doesn't catch on, no guarantee he makes it through camp without being cut.Williams has nothing guaranteed. He'll have a chance to make the team and have a role if he doesn't putz out like he did in DET (weight was just one issue -- he was also late to practices, running the wrong routes, not knowing the plays, etc.). WR4-6 if he makes the team. Gabriel wasn't a starter in OAK when he was there before (except when injuries hit), and showed after a short time in NE that he wasn't starter material. He's fine on a fly pattern, but lacks all around starter ability. WR3-5Higgins will have a year to learn and won't see the field much. Maybe the 5th WR this year, depending on the success of others.Say bye bye to Morant and Whitted, unless one or more of the above don't make the team.
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:homer:
 
thecardiackid said:
:partialhijack:In other news... does this say anything about Troy Williamson or S. Rice's stock on the rise. IIRC Marcus Robinson was released in December. Is anyone left besides these 2 - worthy of even a (very) late round flyer in MN?
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no . . . the Minny passing situation is just ............. sad . . .
 
Couch Potato said:
UCSBgerry said:
Note to self: do not draft a Raiders WR. Man, that's a crowded house: Porter, Curry, Mike Williams, Gabriel, Taylor, Higgins, etc.
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Not really. There will be a pecking order just like with any other team.Curry will start. until he gets hurt again

Porter will start if he doesn't open his mouth or park in Big Al's parking space again. he will open his mouth. it's a matter of when, not if.

Taylor is likely to be the WR3 if he catches on, or even WR2 if Porter messes up. Taylor's never been special but just OK. If he doesn't catch on, no guarantee he makes it through camp without being cut. major bust, but cheap, and available. hey why not add gardner, and boston too

Williams has nothing guaranteed. He'll have a chance to make the team and have a role if he doesn't putz out like he did in DET (weight was just one issue -- he was also late to practices, running the wrong routes, not knowing the plays, etc.). WR4-6 if he makes the team. hasn't he already come up lame in mini-camp?

Gabriel wasn't a starter in OAK when he was there before (except when injuries hit), and showed after a short time in NE that he wasn't starter material. He's fine on a fly pattern, but lacks all around starter ability. WR3-5 true. closer to WR5

Higgins will have a year to learn and won't see the field much. Maybe the 5th WR this year, depending on the success of others.

Say bye bye to Morant and Whitted, unless one or more of the above don't make the team.
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i have a feeling they still aren't done. not much here right now.
 
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thecardiackid said:
:partialhijack:In other news... does this say anything about Troy Williamson or S. Rice's stock on the rise. IIRC Marcus Robinson was released in December. Is anyone left besides these 2 - worthy of even a (very) late round flyer in MN?
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Taylor was released some time ago with no intent to re-sign him, so his signing in OAK is a non-issue for MIN. The earlier release of Taylor however (as well as the release of MRob you that mentioned), obviously created opportunity for others.Williamson will be given another opportunity to develop. He says he had a vision problem that's now been corrected and that should help (I've forgotten the details, you can research if interested). This may be his last year to show he has what it takes.Rice will have to show he can start as a rookie, and I think they'd love him to be able to do that.Bobby Wade was signed in free agency for more coin than most thought he should have been paid, and he looks to be either the #3 or the #2 if Williamson and/or Rice aren't ready to assume a starter's role.Aundrae Allison was drafted in the 5th round. He could make the roster and be a contributor, or end up on the practice squad.Also drafted was Chandler Williams in the 7th, who will probably land on the practice squad.McMullen became the default starter once Taylor was released, but the drafting of Rice (and Allison maybe) and the signing of Wade drops him down.Hankton was signed this offseason, but he's just a special teamer if he sticks. Jason Carter, Maurice Mann and Martin Nance will be hoping for a roster spot.
 
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Couch Potato said:
thecardiackid said:
:partialhijack:In other news... does this say anything about Troy Williamson or S. Rice's stock on the rise. IIRC Marcus Robinson was released in December. Is anyone left besides these 2 - worthy of even a (very) late round flyer in MN?
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Taylor was released some time ago with no intent to re-sign him, so his signing in OAK is a non-issue for MIN. The earlier release of Taylor however (as well as the release of MRob you that mentioned), obviously created opportunity for others.Williamson will be given another opportunity to develop. He says he had a vision problem that's now been corrected and that should help (I've forgotten the details, you can research if interested). This may be his last year to show he has what it takes.Rice will have to show he can start as a rookie, and I think they'd love him to be able to do that.Bobby Wade was signed in free agency for more coin than most thought he should have been paid, and he looks to be either the #3 or the #2 if Williamson and/or Rice aren't ready to assume a starter's role.Aundrae Allison was drafted in the 5th round. He could make the roster and be a contributor, or end up on the practice squad.Also drafted was Chandler Williams in the 7th, who will probably land on the practice squad.McMullen became the default starter once Taylor was released, but the drafting of Rice (and Allison maybe) and the signing of Wade drops him down.Hankton was signed this offseason, but he's just a special teamer if he sticks. Jason Carter, Maurice Mann and Martin Nance will be hoping for a roster spot.
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Thx CP. Pretty work. :eek:
 
Yeah, I think Taylor is better than Morant or Whitted, but why is everyone assuming he will make the final 53? Taylor has underwhelmed everywhere he's been.

 
Both drafted in 2000:

Porter: 89 games, 46 starts, 240 catches, 3234 yards, 24 TD

Taylor: 100 games, 90 starts, 311 catches, 4013 yards, 22 TD

Its arguable Taylor is the most accomplished WR on the team. He has the most starts, the most catches, and the most yards of any WR on the team ...

 
I was really hoping Johnnie Morant would turn into something. He has a lot of natural skills, but I guess he just doesn't have what it takes. :shrug:

 
Curtis Brown, an undrafted running back from Brigham Young, was also added to the roster. Brown averaged 5.0 yards per carry or better all three years with the Cougars. Over the past two seasons, Brown gained 2,133 yards on 411 carries and caught 115 passes for 1,020 yards.

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Why not? I did not see the contract #'s but you have to figure he came cheaply with the off field issue. He obviously has shown some ability in the NFL but he is obviously not a top tier guy either. I think he is a very good #3 or #4 WR for most any team. If the Raider's get the other guys to play well then it is a good signing.... if they are stuck with him being a #1 or #2 (not that crazy to think about with all the questions, injuries, and busts on the Raider roster) then that is bad news but it would make this signing even more valuable.

In short, it is not going to put the Raider's over the hump but it is not going to hurt them either.

 
Chadstroma said:
Why not? I did not see the contract #'s but you have to figure he came cheaply with the off field issue. He obviously has shown some ability in the NFL but he is obviously not a top tier guy either. I think he is a very good #3 or #4 WR for most any team. If the Raider's get the other guys to play well then it is a good signing.... if they are stuck with him being a #1 or #2 (not that crazy to think about with all the questions, injuries, and busts on the Raider roster) then that is bad news but it would make this signing even more valuable. In short, it is not going to put the Raider's over the hump but it is not going to hurt them either.
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$750k league vet minimum IIRC
 
Beaumont said:
Chadstroma said:
Why not? I did not see the contract #'s but you have to figure he came cheaply with the off field issue. He obviously has shown some ability in the NFL but he is obviously not a top tier guy either. I think he is a very good #3 or #4 WR for most any team. If the Raider's get the other guys to play well then it is a good signing.... if they are stuck with him being a #1 or #2 (not that crazy to think about with all the questions, injuries, and busts on the Raider roster) then that is bad news but it would make this signing even more valuable. In short, it is not going to put the Raider's over the hump but it is not going to hurt them either.
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$750k league vet minimum IIRC
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And with the vet minimum rules, he would only count 435,000 against the cap.
 
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