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NFC North (1 Viewer)

I'm very impressed with how this division continues to get better yet stay relatively young.

QB's- Rodgers, Cutler, Favre, Stafford.....that is a tough combo to beat in any division.

The team that has closed the gap the most is the Detroit Lions.

The defense became a lot better with the additions of Suh, vanden bosch, Corey Williams, Chris Houston, drafting Amari Spievey, and Louis Delmas developing.

The offense adds Tony Scheffler, Nate Burleson, to go along with Calvin Johnson, Matt Stafford, Brandon Pettigrew(hope he returns from injury ok).

But then they add Jahvid Best....the most creative runner in the draft...and he will play on turf 1/2 the season.

The Lions will not be an easy win this year folks.

The Chicago Bears closed the Gap as well.

The defense became better by essentially adding Brian Urlacher(missed 15.5 games last year) by not playing the rest of his injuries(besides his wrist) should've healed as well as giving his body a rest...might have elongated his career.

-Also adding one of the best DE's in the game in Julius Peppers, who will make the rest of that defense much much better vs the Pass AND the run.

-I'm excited the Bears let Alex Brown and Adewale Ogunleye. They were very averaged DE's at that. Being replaced by Mark Anderson/Israel Idonjie is okay. But I am more excited about Henry Melton(4th round pick that was on IR last year....converted RB) and Corey Wootton(4th round pick this year).

-resigning Pisa Tinoisomoa was huge IMO. He looked very good last year early in the year before he was lost to injuries for the year.

-Getting Major Wright a FS in the draft was huge as the rest of the scraps at S can fight over the SS spot.

-Cutting Vasher is a gain as well.

The offense got better just by doing nothing.

-Forte is now healthy after offseason knee surgery(sprained his knee week 3).

-Bennett, Knox, Aromashadu...barely played WR in the NFL before last season and now have experience.

Now adding Mike Martz...who, whether you like him or not, is a large upgrade over the challenged Ron Turner.

-Signing two guys that fit his system in Brandon Manumaleuna and Chester Taylor(one of the best 3rd down RB's in football).

-Lastly moving Frank Omiyale to his natural position(and position he had success) at RT is a huge upgrade.

The GB Packers got better as well.

-Finley will have more development under his belt and frankly scares me....bad matchup problem for D's.

-The Oline made progress towards the end of the year..but added Bulaga(who I feel is a better RT) but is still a huge upgrade to Clifton/tauscher.

-James Starks could come in as the 3rd down RB.

On D

-Mathews, Raji, Tramon Williams, Brad Jones all got significant playing time last season which should only help their development going forward.

-While many agree that Mike Neal was a reach for them in round 2, I think the pick makes sense. Jolly has legal issues, Jenkins is getting up their in age, and Harrell is a first class bust. They needed someone who can play the 5 technique in the future. Maybe he needs a year to develop....but the Packers can have that luxary with him.

-Morgan Burnett could come in right away and challenge Bigby for the starting role...which in the end competition brings out the best in a player...so whoever wins the job should be a better player on the field for GB.

-Only concern with GB is they didn't address CB or the return position.

The Vikings...well everyone knows how special of a team they are already.

They added a 6'2 DB that could play CB or S.

One of the steals in the draft in Everson Griffin...really...did the Vikings Dline need to get any better??? His issue is motivation...if he can't get motivated playing next to the Williams duo and Jared Allen...I don't know if he could ever get motivated.

Add in they have the most underappreciated RB in this draft in Toby Gerhart.

Also adding a very very athletic QB in Joe Webb that will convert to WR...i'm sure they can wait on his development with Harvin, Rice, Berrian.

Did I mention that Rice and Harvin are only going to get better after their first seasons of significant playing time in the NFL.

I know biggest question is will Favre come back....but regardless....this team got better.

The entire division got better this offseason and the gap closed from the 4th best team to the top one.

 
Some people are ripping the Lions for moving up and taking Jahvid Best. I think he might have been the most explosive player in the draft. He is going to have a huge impact on the Lions offense.

 
AFC East is absolutely the best division in football. Dolphins, Jets, and Patriots could all be in the thick of things in the AFC.

 
This division definitely got better this offseason. The Lions have done some great things....on paper, we'll see if it translates to the field. Either way, it's looks like they're on the right path. Pretty crazy how bad Millen was. They may not be a playoff team for a little while still, but they're doing all the right things.

The Bears made a splash with Peppers, some say they overpaid....but this was the year to overpay with the absence of a cap. Their defense should be improved this year. Not too sure we're going to see a whole lot of difference out of the receivers even with the added experience. Mike Martz may bring an element of excitement to the offense, however without quality receivers and with the sack problems in his scheme it could end up being a tough year for Cutler.

The Packers didn't really add any quality starters via free agency or draft. Maybe Burnett, but that's about it. What helps though, is the drafting of Baluga. With him as the backup LT (and eventual starter after Clifton gets injured, which is a guarantee) the Packers can stop the shuffle they've had with their OLine since McCarthy got there. With a more reliable offensive line, and the breakout season of Finley...the offense should only get better. For the most part though, they are just relying on improving from within as always. Their defense got torched by quality QB's last year, and they're hoping that all of the injured cornerbacks from last season will be back at full health this year. Not sure if Harris, Lee, Underwood, or Blackmon are the answer to their problems....even if healthy.

The Vikings keep improving as well, which is difficult to do since they already are a complete team with no glaring weaknesses. With Favre coming back (assuming), Gerhart as a strong replacement for Chester, and another year for Harvin and Rice to develope this offense should continue to click just as it did last year. No reason to think this team shouldn't contend for the title again this year.

 
AFC East > NFC East > NFC North
Bears would beat the Phins.
Huge X
Cutler>>>HenneForte/Taylor=Brown/Williams

Marshall/hartline/Bess/Camirillo>>Aroma/Hester/Knox/Bennett

Olsen>>>Sperry/haynos/etc

Phins OL>>>Bears OL

Peppers/Tommie Harris/rest of DL>>Merling/Starks/Ferg(35 and suspension I believe)/Odrick

Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisomoa>>Dansby/Crowder

V. Davis/Allen/rest > Tillman/Bowman/Wright

Gould>>>Carpenter

Fields>Maynard

Bears coverage/return teams>>>>>>>>>Dolphins

Bears coaching>Phins coaching

What am I not seeing here?

 
AFC East > NFC East > NFC North
Bears would beat the Phins.
Huge X
Cutler>>>HenneForte/Taylor=Brown/Williams

Marshall/hartline/Bess/Camirillo>>Aroma/Hester/Knox/Bennett

Olsen>>>Sperry/haynos/etc

Phins OL>>>Bears OL

Peppers/Tommie Harris/rest of DL>>Merling/Starks/Ferg(35 and suspension I believe)/Odrick

Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisomoa>>Dansby/Crowder

V. Davis/Allen/rest > Tillman/Bowman/Wright

Gould>>>Carpenter

Fields>Maynard

Bears coverage/return teams>>>>>>>>>Dolphins

Bears coaching>Phins coaching

What am I not seeing here?
bears have a crap offense and an old mediocre defense. miami is much younger and on the right end of their primebears might finish last in nfc north this season

 
I'll throw my vote in for the AFC South.

Indy is Indy

Houston is getting better every year and were about 5 bad plays away from going 13-3.

Tennessee went 8-2 after Vince Young took over and is only a year removed from a 13-3 season.

Jacksonville went 7-9 and will likely stay around there. But they are still a much tougher team to beat than Detroit or Buffalo in my opinion.

 
AFC East > NFC East > NFC North
Bears would beat the Phins.
Huge X
Cutler>>>Henne Forte/Taylor=Brown/Williams

Marshall/hartline/Bess/Camirillo>>Aroma/Hester/Knox/Bennett

Olsen>>>Sperry/haynos/etc

Phins OL>>>Bears OL

Peppers/Tommie Harris/rest of DL>>Merling/Starks/Ferg(35 and suspension I believe)/Odrick

Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisomoa>>Dansby/Crowder

V. Davis/Allen/rest > Tillman/Bowman/Wright

Gould>>>Carpenter

Fields>Maynard

Bears coverage/return teams>>>>>>>>>Dolphins

Bears coaching>Phins coaching

What am I not seeing here?
I've highlighted the flaws in your thinking...
 
Jay Cutler's pro bowl and having a better TD/INT ratio in his worst year....think otherwise to henne's 2800 and 12/14 effort.

Also a 3 Super Bowl appearance's and 4 current/former HC's on staff give the Bears a slight edge in coaching.

 
Jay Cutler's pro bowl and having a better TD/INT ratio in his worst year....think otherwise to henne's 2800 and 12/14 effort.Also a 3 Super Bowl appearance's and 4 current/former HC's on staff give the Bears a slight edge in coaching.
well, you were wrong about benson leading the way, so i'd say it isn't a stretch to say you are wrong here, too, in your overall analysis of the NFL. won't weigh in on cutler vs. henne and lovie vs. sparano, but ... overall, you are wrong. AFC E, NFC E, AFC C are all better.
 
Jay Cutler's pro bowl and having a better TD/INT ratio in his worst year....think otherwise to henne's 2800 and 12/14 effort.

Also a 3 Super Bowl appearance's and 4 current/former HC's on staff give the Bears a slight edge in coaching.
well, you were wrong about benson leading the way, so i'd say it isn't a stretch to say you are wrong here, too, in your overall analysis of the NFL. won't weigh in on cutler vs. henne and lovie vs. sparano, but ... overall, you are wrong.

AFC E, NFC E, AFC C are all better.
Wow your original....seeing as he helped the Bears to the Super bowl...and did LEAD the bengals to the playoffs.
 
AFC East > NFC East > NFC North
Bears would beat the Phins.
Huge X
Cutler>>>HenneForte/Taylor=Brown/Williams

Marshall/hartline/Bess/Camirillo>>Aroma/Hester/Knox/Bennett

Olsen>>>Sperry/haynos/etc

Phins OL>>>Bears OL

Peppers/Tommie Harris/rest of DL>>Merling/Starks/Ferg(35 and suspension I believe)/Odrick

Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisomoa>>Dansby/Crowder

V. Davis/Allen/rest > Tillman/Bowman/Wright

Gould>>>Carpenter

Fields>Maynard

Bears coverage/return teams>>>>>>>>>Dolphins

Bears coaching>Phins coaching

What am I not seeing here?
For starters, you give the Miami WRs only two of these thingys (>) compared to the Bears' WRs...now I think that is ludicrous as sans Marshall, I think the Miami receivers would get 1-2 of those puppies, but I can live with your assessment. But are you going to tell me that the chasm of talent between Gould and Carpenter is greater than that of the Miami WRs and Bears WRs??? Honestly, there is a chance that Marshall walks away with more receptions next year than the top two Bears receivers...and them Miami also has three potential #2 receivers in Bess, Camarillo and Hartline. I can live with Gould be greater than Carpenter, but when you say the gap is more there than between the two receiving groups, I just think you hit the "greater than" key at random.
 
It looks like the AFC East is the best on paper. After that, it's wide open for 2nd, could be the NFC North but as someone already mentioned, it has to translate to the field, it can't be decided here on a message board in words.

 
AFC East > NFC East > NFC North
Bears would beat the Phins.
Huge X
Cutler>>>HenneForte/Taylor=Brown/Williams

Marshall/hartline/Bess/Camirillo>>Aroma/Hester/Knox/Bennett

Olsen>>>Sperry/haynos/etc

Phins OL>>>Bears OL

Peppers/Tommie Harris/rest of DL>>Merling/Starks/Ferg(35 and suspension I believe)/Odrick

Urlacher/Briggs/Tinoisomoa>>Dansby/Crowder

V. Davis/Allen/rest > Tillman/Bowman/Wright

Gould>>>Carpenter

Fields>Maynard

Bears coverage/return teams>>>>>>>>>Dolphins

Bears coaching>Phins coaching

What am I not seeing here?
For starters, you give the Miami WRs only two of these thingys (>) compared to the Bears' WRs...now I think that is ludicrous as sans Marshall, I think the Miami receivers would get 1-2 of those puppies, but I can live with your assessment. But are you going to tell me that the chasm of talent between Gould and Carpenter is greater than that of the Miami WRs and Bears WRs??? Honestly, there is a chance that Marshall walks away with more receptions next year than the top two Bears receivers...and them Miami also has three potential #2 receivers in Bess, Camarillo and Hartline. I can live with Gould be greater than Carpenter, but when you say the gap is more there than between the two receiving groups, I just think you hit the "greater than" key at random.
Nice catch....I glanced at stats quick and thought it showed 12 missed FG's for Carpenter....maybe that was career.It would definitely be even then.

The WR situation I view as

Marshall

Aromashadu

Knox

Bess

Bennett

Hartline

Camarillo

 

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