NFC Worst (1 Viewer)

[Hooper31]

The NFC West is raising eyebrows as it has a good shot at sending a sub-.500 team to the NFL playoffs.

Both Seattle and St. Louis are 6-6. Combined Seattle and St. Louis have to go 1-5 and the one that wins a game has to lose in week 17. The headline above reads "good shot". I don't have the words to describe how unlikely that good shot is. Geesh, they both play S.F. in the next three weeks. Could it happen? Sure, stranger combinations have occurred, but this is not a good shot.

 

[Abrantes]

Tiki actually had the truth of it, so naturally he was laughed off. They're only talking about it because people have made it a story and like the sound of their voices. Pretty terrible analysis all around, but unfortunately, that's nothing new.

 

[drummer]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8.

Had to chime in seeing SEA and STL fan talking about this.

 

[Abrantes]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8. Had to chime in seeing SEA and STL fan talking about this.

 

[Hooper31]

Had to chime in seeing SEA and STL fan talking about this.

If Seattle wins the division it will be with 8 wins. If its STL winning the division I would expect it to be with 9 wins. I would put my money on STL. S.F.? Best of luck.

 

[drummer]

Had to chime in seeing SEA and STL fan talking about this.

If Seattle wins the division it will be with 8 wins. If its STL winning the division I would expect it to be with 9 wins. I would put my money on STL. S.F.? Best of luck.

To be honest, I hope SF loses out, Alex Smith flames out gloriously, and both he and Singletary are finally done in SF. Oh, and Jed stops tweeting too.

 

[5Rings]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8. Had to chime in seeing SEA and STL fan talking about this.

The entire NFC West is terrible. I have no problem with the article.Hey D, you gotta love having Alex back under center this week....you know he'll give the game to you guys at some point.

 

[Bri]

The NFC West is raising eyebrows as it has a good shot at sending a sub-.500 team to the NFL playoffs.

Both Seattle and St. Louis are 6-6. Combined Seattle and St. Louis have to go 1-5 and the one that wins a game has to lose in week 17. The headline above reads "good shot". I don't have the words to describe how unlikely that good shot is. Geesh, they both play S.F. in the next three weeks. Could it happen? Sure, stranger combinations have occurred, but this is not a good shot.

Journalistic integrity, and what passes for journalistic integrity is shot. Perhaps it has always been this bad and I just didn't realize it.

So the writer chose to write "good shot" over "certainty" "likely" or whatever and you have an issue with it? I don't understand. What word choice do you prefer there?

 

[Hooper31]

So the writer chose to write "good shot" over "certainty" "likely" or whatever and you have an issue with it? I don't understand. What word choice do you prefer there?

The problem isn't the word choice, its the idea that a team with a losing record has a "good shot" to win the division. I think its a pretty slim shot. Has the NFC West represented it self well? No. Its the weakest division in the NFL. However, SEA and STL have some solid wins this year. They've played well enough to not be the punchline of so many jokes. Seattle beat up on San Diego and won convincingly in Chicago? Do those wins somehow not count?The problem here is a guy had a deadline and had to come up with something. As long as you're going to publish crap, might as well throw out some hyperbole in the title.

 

[The Redbeard]

Oh please. Your team is terrible. Best player is Big Mike Williams. Get over it.

 

[drummer]

So the writer chose to write "good shot" over "certainty" "likely" or whatever and you have an issue with it? I don't understand. What word choice do you prefer there?

The problem isn't the word choice, its the idea that a team with a losing record has a "good shot" to win the division. I think its a pretty slim shot. Has the NFC West represented it self well? No. Its the weakest division in the NFL. However, SEA and STL have some solid wins this year. They've played well enough to not be the punchline of so many jokes. Seattle beat up on San Diego and won convincingly in Chicago? Do those wins somehow not count?The problem here is a guy had a deadline and had to come up with something. As long as you're going to publish crap, might as well throw out some hyperbole in the title.

Jeebus, focusing on the media calling the NFCW out is the least of what you should be concerned with. Fessing over a Yahoo panel of Barber, Silver, and Cole? They do this every week about the NFCW. Biel covered the 49ers during the early 90's as well locally. I really don't see what the beef is here. The real difference between the three teams that are in the race are that STL has a QB, SEA has Pete Carroll (who the Yorks wanted 2 years earlier), and both Singletary and Smith will probably not be with the 49ers next season, hopefully. Who cares what Yahoo pundits say? The Division is a mess, and if SEA loses this coming Sunday, then why focus on pundits?

 

[Bri]

So the writer chose to write "good shot" over "certainty" "likely" or whatever and you have an issue with it? I don't understand. What word choice do you prefer there?

The problem isn't the word choice, its the idea that a team with a losing record has a "good shot" to win the division. I think its a pretty slim shot. Has the NFC West represented it self well? No. Its the weakest division in the NFL. However, SEA and STL have some solid wins this year. They've played well enough to not be the punchline of so many jokes. Seattle beat up on San Diego and won convincingly in Chicago? Do those wins somehow not count?The problem here is a guy had a deadline and had to come up with something. As long as you're going to publish crap, might as well throw out some hyperbole in the title.

The headline isn't often a writer's choice. Sure he might have a good idea for one but the headline to most articles is created by an editor and/or reviewed by an editor or two or three. Many publishers are pretentious and want every headline to reach out N grab the reader and make them feel they have to read each and every article. I had days at a paper where we literally redid every headline before it went to the printer.To many publishers the headline is like a separate entity altogether to the article.I don't see the journalistic integrity issue here. This writer glows with integrity compared to Whitlock and Florio and you're all over him. That's throwing me.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Had to chime in seeing SEA and STL fan talking about this.

If Seattle wins the division it will be with 8 wins. If its STL winning the division I would expect it to be with 9 wins. I would put my money on STL. S.F.? Best of luck.

Hey, Seattle just might beat Atlanta.

 

[Insein]

So the writer chose to write "good shot" over "certainty" "likely" or whatever and you have an issue with it? I don't understand. What word choice do you prefer there?

The problem isn't the word choice, its the idea that a team with a losing record has a "good shot" to win the division. I think its a pretty slim shot. Has the NFC West represented it self well? No. Its the weakest division in the NFL. However, SEA and STL have some solid wins this year. They've played well enough to not be the punchline of so many jokes. Seattle beat up on San Diego and won convincingly in Chicago? Do those wins somehow not count?The problem here is a guy had a deadline and had to come up with something. As long as you're going to publish crap, might as well throw out some hyperbole in the title.

Semantics. The point of the article is that an NFC West team will make the playoffs and have a home game while a team that has a 10-6 or 11-5 record will not. Its merely bringing light to that fact.

 

[Hooper31]

Absurd will happen and the talking heads will feel vindicated. I still think the Rams chances to finish at .500 or better are solid, but Seattle looked embarrassingly bad today.

Wheeeeeeeeee. Well don't I look like the overly emotional fan?

 

[Bri]

happens to us all

 

[drummer]

Absurd will happen and the talking heads will feel vindicated. I still think the Rams chances to finish at .500 or better are solid, but Seattle looked embarrassingly bad today. Wheeeeeeeeee. Well don't I look like the overly emotional fan?

What's worse is SF's big win might keep the Status Quo alive. Your loss today might be a blessing in disguise. It may be Sing and Smith all over again in SF, 2011.

 

[Abrantes]

Absurd will happen and the talking heads will feel vindicated. I still think the Rams chances to finish at .500 or better are solid, but Seattle looked embarrassingly bad today. Wheeeeeeeeee. Well don't I look like the overly emotional fan?

What's worse is SF's big win might keep the Status Quo alive. Your loss today might be a blessing in disguise. It may be Sing and Smith all over again in SF, 2011.

Don't tease.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8.

Yep. And what is funny is, it happened two years ago. The Chargers were 4-8 in 2008 and won their last four games to win the AFC West with an 8-8 record.

 

[QuizGuy66]

NFC West is 12-22 against the rest of the NFL.

What's interesting is imagine what it would be like if they weren't paired with the AFC West this year for out of conference games and had, say the AFC East to contend with.

The AFC West and NFC West are 13-27 in games outside of their group of 8. (8-12 for the AFC West, 5-15 for the NFC West)

-QG

 

[BoltBacker]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8.

Yep. And what is funny is, it happened two years ago. The Chargers were 4-8 in 2008 and won their last four games to win the AFC West with an 8-8 record.

I remember that year well.After all the hand wringing over those terrible Charger/Cardinal teams getting into the playoffs in '08 when everyone knew they didn't belong... what happened?SD beat a 12-4 Colts team in the first round before losing to the eventual superbowl champs and the Cardinals went on to nearly win the superbowl.There isn't nearly as much separating these teams as the average fan thinks.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8.

Yep. And what is funny is, it happened two years ago. The Chargers were 4-8 in 2008 and won their last four games to win the AFC West with an 8-8 record.

I remember that year well.After all the hand wringing over those terrible Charger/Cardinal teams getting into the playoffs in '08 when everyone knew they didn't belong... what happened?SD beat a 12-4 Colts team in the first round before losing to the eventual superbowl champs and the Cardinals went on to nearly win the superbowl.There isn't nearly as much separating these teams as the average fan thinks.

Very true. And a Jets team that was basically a .500 team last year almost made it to the Super Bowl. The difference between winning and losing in the NFL is so small sometimes that it is difficult to completely discount any team that makes it to the playoffs nowadays.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8.

Yep. And what is funny is, it happened two years ago. The Chargers were 4-8 in 2008 and won their last four games to win the AFC West with an 8-8 record.

I remember that year well.After all the hand wringing over those terrible Charger/Cardinal teams getting into the playoffs in '08 when everyone knew they didn't belong... what happened?SD beat a 12-4 Colts team in the first round before losing to the eventual superbowl champs and the Cardinals went on to nearly win the superbowl.There isn't nearly as much separating these teams as the average fan thinks.

Very true. And a Jets team that was basically a .500 team last year almost made it to the Super Bowl. The difference between winning and losing in the NFL is so small sometimes that it is difficult to completely discount any team that makes it to the playoffs nowadays.

I don't think it's that. I think records are often poor indicators of how good a team really is. This year, the Chargers are pretty damn good despite a poor record. The Jaguars aren't that good despite a good record. The NFC West? Not only do all of those teams stink, but their records do, too. The '09 Jets had the best defense in the league, an incredibly dominant pass defense and one of the most dominant rushing attacks in the league. They were a very good team. The '07 Chargers and '08 Cardinals had awesome passing offenses that got hot at the right time.

 

[5Rings]

Ya gotta admit, it's bad when you have a shot at 4-8.

Yep. And what is funny is, it happened two years ago. The Chargers were 4-8 in 2008 and won their last four games to win the AFC West with an 8-8 record.

I remember that year well.After all the hand wringing over those terrible Charger/Cardinal teams getting into the playoffs in '08 when everyone knew they didn't belong... what happened?SD beat a 12-4 Colts team in the first round before losing to the eventual superbowl champs and the Cardinals went on to nearly win the superbowl.There isn't nearly as much separating these teams as the average fan thinks.

Very true. And a Jets team that was basically a .500 team last year almost made it to the Super Bowl. The difference between winning and losing in the NFL is so small sometimes that it is difficult to completely discount any team that makes it to the playoffs nowadays.

IIRC, the Jets benefitted from playing three teams in a row who laid down for them to end the season. I tip my cap to them for putting together a heckuva post season run though....prior to that, I thought they had no business in the playoffs....which means StL or SF will upset two teams and get to the NFC Champ Game... or maybe not

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't think it's that. I think records are often poor indicators of how good a team really is. This year, the Chargers are pretty damn good despite a poor record. The Jaguars aren't that good despite a good record.

I don't think it is as simple as looking at total offense and defense rankings. The Chargers have had very poor special teams for much of the year and are one of the worst teams in the league as far as turnover differential goes. Is that your definition of pretty damn good?

 

[sartre]

The NFC West is raising eyebrows as it has a good shot at sending a sub-.500 team to the NFL playoffs.

Both Seattle and St. Louis are 6-6. Combined Seattle and St. Louis have to go 1-5 and the one that wins a game has to lose in week 17. The headline above reads "good shot". I don't have the words to describe how unlikely that good shot is. Geesh, they both play S.F. in the next three weeks. Could it happen? Sure, stranger combinations have occurred, but this is not a good shot.

Journalistic integrity, and what passes for journalistic integrity is shot. Perhaps it has always been this bad and I just didn't realize it.

Do you still feel this way?

 

[proninja]

SF and SEA have 10 of 27 all pro spots. Amazing how fast things can change in the NFL.

 

[Alkahsu]

SF and SEA have 10 of 27 all pro spots. Amazing how fast things can change in the NFL.

And that's part of the reason why football is the best pro sport.

 

[meyerj31]

SF and SEA have 10 of 27 all pro spots. Amazing how fast things can change in the NFL.

And that's part of the reason why football is the best pro sport.

Other sports will never have the all-nation following of the NFL until they implement the kind of revenue-sharing that the NFL employs.Gotta give mad props to Pete Rozelle for seeing what needed to be done for football to grow to today's popularity. I have to believe that the NBA and MLB would be more popular if every team had a fair shake of talent.