NFL admits two blown calls in CIN-PIT game (1 Viewer)

[Frenchy Fuqua]

NFL says officials made 2 wrong calls against Steelers

Friday, November 12, 2010

By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers have been informed by the National Football League that two penalties that almost cost them in Monday night's victory in Cincinnati should not have been called, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Coach Mike Tomlin sent a complaint to the league office earlier this week, challenging the roughing-the-passer penalty on nose tackle Casey Hampton and a pass interference penalty against cornerback Ike Taylor on back-to-back plays that allowed the Bengals to move to the Steelers 1 in the fourth quarter.

Two plays later, the Bengals scored on a 1-yard run by Cedric Benson to cut the Steelers lead to 27-21.

After Jeff Reed missed a 46-yard field goal that would have given the Steelers a nine-point lead, the Bengals drove to the Steelers 12 and had a chance to win the game until a fourth-down pass to rookie receiver Jordan Shipley was broken up by Taylor and linebacker James Harrison with 34 seconds remaining.

The league informed the Steelers the penalty against Hampton should not have been called because he hit quarterback Carson Palmer on the thigh, not below the knee or to the head, after an incomplete pass.

On the next play from the Steelers 21, Taylor was penalized for pass interference against Terrell Owens, a call that was made by the official in the back of the end zone, not the side judge who was right in front of the play on the left sideline. The league told the Steelers no penalty should have been called.

More details in tomorrow's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

First published on November 12, 2010 at 10:25 am

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10316/11027...m#ixzz155DdrT6K

 

[Masked Vigilante]

For once, the Steelers weren't the beneficiaries of questionable refereeing.

 

[Choke]

That Hampton penalty was straight bull####.

 

[CrossEyed]

Somebody inform the Seahawks fans about this.

 

[Choke]

For once, the Steelers weren't the beneficiaries of questionable refereeing.

Get the hell out of here.James Harrison is put into a choke hold play after play, game after every game, by tackles who cant handle his strength. Its called about 1% of the time. Its beyond ludicrous.

 

[Choke]

Somebody inform the Seahawks fans about this.

Oh no you di'int!

 

[Kirby]

Did they also inform the Bengals that the holding call on Whit was bs?

 

[CrossEyed]

Somebody inform the Seahawks fans about this.

Oh no you di'int!

Expecting a flock of them in 3...2....1...

 

[dennis.moore]

I am in the "Who cares?" category. But it is a shock that a bad call went against the Steelers.

 

[Kai's Hero]

This is the funniest ##### ever! A steeler fan complaining that a call went against them? Hilarious .....

 

[hip80]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

 

[Godsbrother]

This is the funniest ##### ever! A steeler fan complaining that a call went against them? Hilarious .....

Meh. The Steelers get their share of blown calls that both benefit as well as those that go against them. No different from any other team.

 

[Godsbrother]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

Isn't that what the review system is for? The Bengals had a challenge and had they used it the TD would have been overturned.Blame Marvin Lewis on that one...

 

[THE SNOWMAN]

I am in the "Who cares?" category. But it is a shock that a bad call went against the Steelers.

Yes, yes it is my friend.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Somebody inform the Seahawks fans about this.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Yes, all teams are the victims of bad calls at some point, but it is funny how the NFL can't say it fast enough when the Steelers are one of them. Meanwhile, you don't hear such talk as much when other teams get victimized. The love affair between the NFL and the Rooneys sure is interesting, if nothing else.

 

[hip80]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

Isn't that what the review system is for? The Bengals had a challenge and had they used it the TD would have been overturned.Blame Marvin Lewis on that one...

Agreed, I guess Lewis figured they'd just punch it in anyway, or he is blind. I am bitter because that TD lost me a game. BUT, if that had been in the last 2 minutes, it would have been overturned with or without Lewis.

 

[Choke]

For once, the Steelers weren't the beneficiaries of questionable refereeing.

Get the hell out of here.James Harrison is put into a choke hold play after play, game after every game, by tackles who cant handle his strength.

Its called about 1% of the time. Its beyond ludicrous.

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

The Steelers are simply in position, more often then others, to take advatage of them. Espeically in huge memorable moments. "You have to play better than the referees officiate"

~Chuck Noll~ 1972

before having ever won a super bowl.

 

[golfguy]

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

really? seems quite a few teams have gotten calls over the years. "tuck" rule down?

 

[Bojang0301]

Apparently the rest of the league is: and

 

[Bojang0301]

For once, the Steelers weren't the beneficiaries of questionable refereeing.

Get the hell out of here.James Harrison is put into a choke hold play after play, game after every game, by tackles who cant handle his strength. Its called about 1% of the time. Its beyond ludicrous.

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

San Diego and Ed Hochuli down guy? Guess so...

 

[DepthCharts]

I think it would be easier on all of us if the costume mfg's would just start referring to those referee costumes they sell simply as Pittsburgh Steeler Costumes. It tends to get a little confusing. Please help.

Thanks,

Sean Locklear

 

[cheese]

Did they also inform the Bengals that the holding call on Whit was bs?

As a Bengals fan I was going nuts about the phantom holding call as well, but that Hampton call was just as bad. Holy crap, if you can't do that, what can you do?Not so sure on the pass interference though. That gets called and not called on a weekly basis, so you just hope they go your way.

 

[FarEastKilla]

It's easy to admit fault knowing steelers still won the game after blowing 2 dumb BS calls, but what about Miami? Just a red headed step child?!?

NFL says officials made 2 wrong calls against Steelers

Friday, November 12, 2010

By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers have been informed by the National Football League that two penalties that almost cost them in Monday night's victory in Cincinnati should not have been called, the Post-Gazette has learned.

Coach Mike Tomlin sent a complaint to the league office earlier this week, challenging the roughing-the-passer penalty on nose tackle Casey Hampton and a pass interference penalty against cornerback Ike Taylor on back-to-back plays that allowed the Bengals to move to the Steelers 1 in the fourth quarter.

Two plays later, the Bengals scored on a 1-yard run by Cedric Benson to cut the Steelers lead to 27-21.

After Jeff Reed missed a 46-yard field goal that would have given the Steelers a nine-point lead, the Bengals drove to the Steelers 12 and had a chance to win the game until a fourth-down pass to rookie receiver Jordan Shipley was broken up by Taylor and linebacker James Harrison with 34 seconds remaining.

The league informed the Steelers the penalty against Hampton should not have been called because he hit quarterback Carson Palmer on the thigh, not below the knee or to the head, after an incomplete pass.

On the next play from the Steelers 21, Taylor was penalized for pass interference against Terrell Owens, a call that was made by the official in the back of the end zone, not the side judge who was right in front of the play on the left sideline. The league told the Steelers no penalty should have been called.

More details in tomorrow's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

First published on November 12, 2010 at 10:25 am

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10316/11027...m#ixzz155DdrT6K

 

[Choke]

but what about Miami? Just a red headed step child?!?

Maybe the local reporters should look into it. You know, like actually contact the NFL office. Were the Dolphins even pro-active in contacting the NFL about it themselves?

 

[FF Newbie]

Laughing my foot off. NFL officials make egregiously bad calls week after week. Normally the Steelers are the beneficiary and the NFL always insists the calls were right, even in the face of all evidence to the contrary. So a questionable call is made against the Steelers that didn't even cost them or affect the outcome of the game and the NFL is tripping all over themselves in a rush to apologize to the Steelers. Classic.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

Isn't that what the review system is for? The Bengals had a challenge and had they used it the TD would have been overturned.Blame Marvin Lewis on that one...

I do blame Marvin Lewis for not challenging the play, but does the fact that coaches can challenge absolve the officials from actually attempting to make the correct call once in awhile?

 

[mr roboto]

Changing the subject from the Steeler's love/hatefest...

Do you think announcements like this make any difference one way or the other?

Does it make you feel better as a fan of the team that got screwed?

Is it good or bad for the NFL to make these announcements?

MLB ump admits he screwed a guy out of a perfect game. Could have been overturned and would not have affected the game in any way. Still, nothing happened.

 

[Reaper]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

Isn't that what the review system is for? The Bengals had a challenge and had they used it the TD would have been overturned.Blame Marvin Lewis on that one...

I do blame Marvin Lewis for not challenging the play, but does the fact that coaches can challenge absolve the officials from actually attempting to make the correct call once in awhile?

You could hardly make that call with super slow motion and stop action....Any human will always be 50% on a call like that.If that was my team I'd be much more pissed at the coaching staff. Guys in the booth need to make the call.

 

[Choke]

Do you think announcements like this make any difference one way or the other?

Are you a conspiracy theorist? If you are then the answer = No.

If you are not then the answer = Yes.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I hated both of those calls as they happened, and had the Steelers lost, I would have hated them more. Bottom line is that this stuff happens every week.

Only lesson to be learned here is for the people who (jokingly?) claim the NFL or the referees have a pro-Steelers bias and consistently call games in their favor. It's preposterous, and maybe people can now see that close or controversial calls always go both ways.

 

[Godsbrother]

Yes, all teams are the victims of bad calls at some point, but it is funny how the NFL can't say it fast enough when the Steelers are one of them. Meanwhile, you don't hear such talk as much when other teams get victimized. The love affair between the NFL and the Rooneys sure is interesting, if nothing else.

Either the NFL brass & officials are all Steelers fans and the rest of the owners go along with it because tehy are in awe of the Rooneys-OR-Mike Tomlin made inquiries about the calls, the league responsed to it and a Pittsburgh reporter picked up on it and wrote a story. You make the call...

 

[fred_1_15301]

For once, the Steelers weren't the beneficiaries of questionable refereeing.

Get the hell out of here.James Harrison is put into a choke hold play after play, game after every game, by tackles who cant handle his strength. Its called about 1% of the time. Its beyond ludicrous.

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

Get the hell out of here. And if you're going to make a claim like this, please provide a link.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Yes, all teams are the victims of bad calls at some point, but it is funny how the NFL can't say it fast enough when the Steelers are one of them. Meanwhile, you don't hear such talk as much when other teams get victimized. The love affair between the NFL and the Rooneys sure is interesting, if nothing else.

Either the NFL brass & officials are all Steelers fans and the rest of the owners go along with it because tehy are in awe of the Rooneys-OR-Mike Tomlin made inquiries about the calls, the league responsed to it and a Pittsburgh reporter picked up on it and wrote a story. You make the call...

Alcoa presents........

 

[Godsbrother]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

Isn't that what the review system is for? The Bengals had a challenge and had they used it the TD would have been overturned.Blame Marvin Lewis on that one...

I do blame Marvin Lewis for not challenging the play, but does the fact that coaches can challenge absolve the officials from actually attempting to make the correct call once in awhile?

Not at all. I wholeheartedly agree they blew the call and it would have been reversed had it been reviewed but this happens in almost every NFL game nowadays. That is why they have the challenge system to begin with. Personally I think every play involving a score, should be quickly reviewed by the booth regardless if a team has a challenge or not. But until they have such a system you gotta put it on Marvin since he had the challenge and opted not to use it.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

How about the Ward TD catch that was not a TD?

Isn't that what the review system is for? The Bengals had a challenge and had they used it the TD would have been overturned.Blame Marvin Lewis on that one...

I do blame Marvin Lewis for not challenging the play, but does the fact that coaches can challenge absolve the officials from actually attempting to make the correct call once in awhile?

You could hardly make that call with super slow motion and stop action....Any human will always be 50% on a call like that.If that was my team I'd be much more pissed at the coaching staff. Guys in the booth need to make the call.

Really? I watche dit real time and said he was down before the end zone. Replay confirmed it, but it looked pretty obvious.Mind you I am a Rams fan, not a Steeler or Bengals fan so i really don't have a dog in the hunt.

 

[2112]

Yes, all teams are the victims of bad calls at some point, but it is funny how the NFL can't say it fast enough when the Steelers are one of them. Meanwhile, you don't hear such talk as much when other teams get victimized. The love affair between the NFL and the Rooneys sure is interesting, if nothing else.

Either the NFL brass & officials are all Steelers fans and the rest of the owners go along with it because tehy are in awe of the Rooneys-OR-Mike Tomlin made inquiries about the calls, the league responded to it and a Pittsburgh reporter picked up on it and wrote a story. You make the call...

I don't personally buy into conspiracy theories like that. Mostly because I don't believe people (officials) can think that in-depth on the fly during live game action. But if, and I mean it's a huge "IF", the league does have a preference for the Steeler organization, can you really blame them? In a very real sense, this team does things the right way. This team does the business and sport of football with integrity, and frankly the NFL needs the Steelers' example.My case?1. Small market team, with strong ownership. Not intimidated by the big market teams, and doesn't need to follow their example to thrive2. Does not over-spend to buy a good team, and DEVELOPS it's own talent (see steady flow of no-name defenders that become big-name)3. Plays tough football with a classy emphasis on the TEAM, and not the individual, nor the owner. (ahem...Jerry Jones anyone?)4. Has it's own identity & style of playing football that simply wins. Defense and running game, with intermittent periods of passing successIn short, the team plays football the way all teams should. Want a big contract, Joey Porter? or Kevin Greene, etc? See ya! Attitude issues, Mr. Burress, Mr. Holmes and nearly Mr. Roethlisberger? See ya!Simply put, the Cowboys, Raiders, Bengals and others that routinely grasp at straws and look to buy the best teams can learn a big lesson from the Steelers and Rooneys. Sometimes LESS IS MORE. Take the road less traveled. Be more about "good" than about "immediate success"I personally take great comfort in knowing that the team I grew up loving is a team I can proudly show my son, as an example of doing things the right way. Not the flashy way. And with few recent exceptions (Big Ben) I don't have to have those awkward discussions with my son about how much of an idiot this player is or that player is. They simply won't sign - and don't want to sign - the Moss' or TO's of the world. And perhaps....IF the league does have some preference for the Steelers, these reasons are part of that. The NFL does need the Steelers and other teams like them, lest the league might become more like the NBA and the me-first, flashy versions of one-on-one "sport" they play.I'm out.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

really? seems quite a few teams have gotten calls over the years. "tuck" rule down?

Agreed. I think the Pats are easily #1, with Pit #2.

 

[Godsbrother]

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

really? seems quite a few teams have gotten calls over the years. "tuck" rule down?

Agreed. I think the Pats are easily #1, with Pit #2.

Hmmm, two of the most successful teams of the last decade. My guess is that is your perception because teams like the Bills get the same number of blown calls in their favor but aren't able to take advantage of them and they get the same number of bad calls against them but they aren't able to overcome them.The referees do not have a bias for or against any team.

 

[CrossEyed]

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

really? seems quite a few teams have gotten calls over the years. "tuck" rule down?

Agreed. I think the Pats are easily #1, with Pit #2.

Hmmm, two of the most successful teams of the last decade. My guess is that is your perception because teams like the Bills get the same number of blown calls in their favor but aren't able to take advantage of them and they get the same number of bad calls against them but they aren't able to overcome them.The referees do not have a bias for or against any team.

I think it's because nobody actually watches the Bills games. Who knows WHAT in the world the refs are doing during those games?

 

[delusional]

Big ####, they admitted it, what good does that do? Some of these calls are changing outcomes of games this season.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

The whining in this place is getting unbearable.

The NFL did comment on the Miami game and the call was handled correctly given the circumstance. You may not have liked the circumstance, but don't question why the NFL bends over backwards to get the Steelers explanations. They do it for everyone.

And I like the fact that they admit mistakes. It's not like the NHL where the refs and decisions are handled like the old Soviet Union.

In closing, some of you haters seem to think Steeler fans enjoy the controversy...I for one could do without it, if not just to stop the whining...

 

[GroveDiesel]

Yes, all teams are the victims of bad calls at some point, but it is funny how the NFL can't say it fast enough when the Steelers are one of them. Meanwhile, you don't hear such talk as much when other teams get victimized. The love affair between the NFL and the Rooneys sure is interesting, if nothing else.

That's because this information isn't supposed to be released. The Steelers will probably receive a fine behind the scenes over this. Every week the NFL admits to teams all over the league that calls are blown. Clubs are NOT allowed to disclose this information though.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

For once, the Steelers weren't the beneficiaries of questionable refereeing.

Get the hell out of here.James Harrison is put into a choke hold play after play, game after every game, by tackles who cant handle his strength. Its called about 1% of the time. Its beyond ludicrous.

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

San Diego and Ed Hochuli down guy? Guess so...

1 < 278364872364

 

[ScottyFargo]

Big ####, they admitted it, what good does that do? Some of these calls are changing outcomes of games this season.

Of course, it didn't in this game, so it's not newsworthy. But the noncall in Miami that was touted as the correct call remains blasphemy.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Typical Steelers fan. No team in NFL history has gotten more questionable calls in their favor than the Steelers and their response to anyone who brings that up is "get the hell out of here".

really? seems quite a few teams have gotten calls over the years. "tuck" rule down?

Agreed. I think the Pats are easily #1, with Pit #2.

Hmmm, two of the most successful teams of the last decade. My guess is that is your perception because teams like the Bills get the same number of blown calls in their favor but aren't able to take advantage of them and they get the same number of bad calls against them but they aren't able to overcome them.The referees do not have a bias for or against any team.

While we're on the subject of being blinded by perception, ever notice how this argument always comes down to Steelers fans vs. everyone else? Tampa Bay Bucs fans have nothing to be biased about. Detroit Lions fans have nothing to be biased about. Cleveland Browns fans have nothing to be biased about. Yet they, and every other team, feel that Pittsburgh has gotten very lucky with the calls over the years. The only group that has any bias here is Steelers fans, and they also happen to be the only group that doesn't believe the Steelers have gotten the benefit of bad calls more than most teams have.To continue on with your point about perception, what about the Colts? They've been a pretty darn successful team over the last 10+ years, yet there is no stigma of luck with them. You'd have to think about it pretty hard to come up with the last time they benefited from an egregiously bad call on a high level, even though they've played in just as many playoff games and just as many close games on national TV as the Steelers have over the last decade.Going even further, what about Super Bowls? If I walked up to 100 random people and asked them to name the Super Bowl most marred by bad calls, which one would they say? I'd wager that 90 of them would say the Seahawks vs. Steelers game. We're comparing a level playing field here, super bowl games vs. super bowl games, so there's no error in perception, yet that is what they'd answer.That said, I don't think that the league has any bias towards the Steelers (or Patriots). What I do think is that benefiting from bad calls in important situations is a small sample size, and statistically with a small sample size that is very unlikely to disperse evenly. Pittsburgh hasn't gotten "help" with the benefit of lots of bad calls, they've just gotten lucky. Tomorrow, that could all completely reverse and it wouldn't have anything to do with them falling out of favor with the league or anything crazy like that. It would just be typical statistical variance.

 

[Steeler]

I think it would be easier on all of us if the costume mfg's would just start referring to those referee costumes they sell simply as Pittsburgh Steeler Costumes. It tends to get a little confusing. Please help.

Thanks,

Sean Locklear

Locklear holding

 

[The General]

It's hard to say whose more annoying Steeler fan or Duke fan.

 

[Steeler]

It's hard to say whose more annoying Steeler fan or Duke fan.

Jim Rome listeners are probably more annoying than both.

 

[golfguy]

i still can't believe people complain about that call.

the hasselbeck one, okay.

I think it would be easier on all of us if the costume mfg's would just start referring to those referee costumes they sell simply as Pittsburgh Steeler Costumes. It tends to get a little confusing. Please help.

Thanks,

Sean Locklear

Locklear holding