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NFL agrees to deal with Comcast (1 Viewer)

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Edited to add. The deal is done. Comcast and the NFL have agreed to terms on a new deal.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...work/index.html

The NFL is about to solve one very, very large television headache, and get some momentum it hopes to carry over into negotiations for a new labor contract with the players.

That isn't the only bit of good TV news on the horizon for the NFL. The league is also on the verge of reaching agreements with its two Sunday afternoon network partners, FOX and CBS, on contract extensions. The deals with FOX, CBS and NBC run through the end of the 2011 season, and it's likely the networks will have two years added to their deals.

Added to the deal the NFL made with DirectTV in March -- a four-year extension of the current satellite deal for Sunday games, worth $1 billion a year from 2011 through 2014 -- the league is riding a strong wave of TV profitability in bad economic times.

Rights fees with CBS and FOX, in addition to the specifics of the deal, were not immediately available. But it's likely the league will get small bumps up from the $622 million it earns from CBS annually, and the $712 million FOX is paying.

Notably absent from the network news: Progress on a new deal with NBC, which wasn't a part of the talks with the NFL. Part of the league's motivation to deal with Comcast and the networks, surely, was its desire to be able to use the Red Zone Channel on cable instead of only on satellite, and NBC wasn't part of the Red Zone deal. (The Red Zone channel is a whiparound channel following teams' scoring chances over the six-hour Sunday period when FOX and CBS have rights. The NFL wanted to make the channel available to cable systems, but could do so only if the two networks agreed to allow it be used on digital cable. When deals got made with FOX and CBS, as Sports Business Journal reported Sunday afternoon, it allowed the NFL to move close to a deal with Comcast, because the league could give the cable giant a valuable chip in the Red Zone Channel to use on Sundays.) NBC has historically been more of a bottom-line entity than other networks. But it's likely NBC, which currently pays $600 million a year for a premier Sunday night package of games, will agree to a similar two-year extension through 2013 sometime this year.

NFL Network had been carried on a pay sports tier for Comcast's 24-million subscribers, and the NFL for years has been arguing its channel should be on the regular digital cable package with the ESPNs and CNNs of the cable TV world. Now that is close to happening. The deal would mean that instead of paying about $7 per month for the channel and other pay-TV sports channels, Comcast subscribers will get NFL Network with its regular digital package -- and it will increase the number of TV homes the Network is seen in from about 35 million to close to 50 million. More importantly, it could well pave the way for the NFL to make deals with other cable companies similarly chapped at the league's demand for huge rights fees for a sports channel with only 24 hours of NFL regular-season game programming per year.

How big is this? Well, some of my acquaintances who work for the Network feared that without wider distribution, some owners tired of the five-year fight for wider distribution of the Network would have soon moved to kill the channel in the current bad economy. Comcast and the NFL had been like Pete Rozelle and Al Davis, seemingly destined to never make peace, and some employees felt the channel would never get major traction as long as league insisted that NFL Network charge cable companies more to carry its product than CNN charged for its channel.

I'm told the key player in the deal from the NFL side has been commissioner Roger Goodell, who has worked personally with Comcast chairman and CEO Brian Roberts to bridge the major differences between the two sides. Comcast, and the rest of Big Cable, has found it ridiculous (as did most sane people) that the league wanted 70 to 80 cents per viewer household for a network that televised only eight live NFL games. "Roger," one league source told me Sunday, "has made it a personal project to build a great relationship with Brian Roberts. The logjam's been broken, and I think that really helped."

Last month, an administrative law judge began hearing the dispute between the two sides, with the NFL seeking to have the channel moved from the pay tier to the digital tier. Roberts told the judge Comcast would accept the league charging a fee of 25 cents per subscriber per month. The league argued its value was much higher.

I'm also told a deal between Comcast the league was close to being done on Thursday or Friday, but it never got done. The two sides were back talking Sunday, working on some final points. These two sides have been engaged in substantive talks that have broken off many times, so it's dangerous to say categorically that a deal will get done. But I think one is very close.

As for what this means to my parent company, Time Warner, I can't tell you. I can guess. Time Warner Cable has 14.7 million cable homes, and the relationship between the league and Time Warner has been as noxious as the one between Comcast and the NFL. It could be that the league is intent on getting the deal done with Comcast first, then moving on to the second-biggest of the Big Cables, Time Warner, with the framework of a concept in place.

The deal with DirecTV, and the imminent ones with Comcast, CBS and FOX, bode well for the start of talks between the league and players this spring on a new collective bargaining agreement. NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith is expected to begin serious talks with league officials this spring.

 
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I found a couple of more pieces of information. I really like the news concerning the Red Zone package.

NFL Network coming to a TV set near you? Maybe

6:32 AM Mon, May 18, 2009 | Permalink

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http://sportsmediablog.dallasnews.com/arch...o-a-tv-set.html

Word is trickling out that NFL Network and Comcast will agree to get the subscriber-starved network on a basic digital package.

What does that mean? It may translate into an immediate 25 33 percent uptick in homes for NFLN, which would go from about 30 million homes to 40 million. And if Comcast, the biggest cable operator in the business is in, Time Warner Cable, the big dog in these parts, would almost certainly follow. Once they are in, the rest of the cable dominoes will fall.

Looks like it could be a very Deion Sanders Thanksgiving around here.

And if you need to declare a winner when two giant businesses butt heads, then the right arm of cable gets raised. It will be interesting to see how the NFL spins this in an effort to save face,

Also, CBS and Fox may soon be announcing 2-year extensions in their AFC and NFC packages taking then through 2013.

For more news on this subject head here to Sports Business Journal. It's the bible of NFL Network-Comcast news.

___________________________________

NFL close to extensions with Fox, CBS

Agreement to put NFL Network on Comcast also near, and negotiations are linked

Print This Story By DANIEL KAPLAN and JOHN OURAND

Staff writers

Published May 18, 2009 : Page 01

http://sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/62475

The NFL is negotiating to extend its television contracts with CBS and Fox by two years, sources said, taking the deals through the 2013 season. The developments emerged as the league late last week was said to be on the verge of settling its long-running dispute with Comcast over the cable distribution of NFL Network.

The two sets of negotiations are linked.

As an incentive to get cable operators to agree to carry its poorly distributed cable channel, the NFL has been dangling the idea of bundling in Sunday Ticket’s Red Zone Channel, which shows live-game look-ins during the league’s Sunday afternoon games. The league, however, needs to get permission from its Sunday afternoon broadcasters, CBS and Fox, before making such a channel widely available on cable. The league approached CBS and Fox in March about extending their deals through 2013, with the talks coming shortly after the NFL renewed DirecTV’s Sunday Ticket deal and disclosed plans to make the Red Zone Channel available to cable.

Several sources described the extensions as being close, with the networks most likely agreeing to a 3 percent to 5 percent increase over their current rights deals. That amount would be in line with previous negotiations. In 2004, when CBS and Fox signed the current deal, they agreed to roughly 4 percent annual increases. Fox agreed to pay the NFL an average of $712.5 million per year for the Sunday afternoon NFC package, and CBS agreed to pay an average of $622.5 million per year for the Sunday afternoon AFC package.

If the broadcasters agree to the two-year extensions, it would ensure that CBS broadcasts the 2013 Super Bowl and Fox would get the 2014 game. It’s not known if the negotiations have included talks about the extra one or two games that the league has discussed adding to the regular season.

The NFL Network deal would be much more surprising, given the public acrimony between the NFL and Comcast over the past year. Sources said the NFL dropped its 70-cent per subscriber license fee significantly in order to get digital-basic penetration, the same tier that houses MLB Network. Though a deal hasn’t been signed, sources said Comcast would not take equity in the network.

Sources credit Comcast CEO Brian Roberts and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell for providing the impetus behind getting a deal so close. A digital-basic Comcast deal would account for more than 10 million homes, pushing total carriage for the network to more than 40 million homes.

But just as important for the NFL is that once Comcast, the nation’s largest cable operator, cuts a deal, that other cable operators generally will fall in line.

The status of both sets of negotiations is certain to be a topic of discussion at the NFL owners spring meeting this week.

Both the NFL and broadcast committee member Pat Bowlen, owner of the Denver Broncos, declined to comment.

The league’s broadcast partners are clearly keen to extend their deals given the ratings power of NFL programming, generally among the highest-rated programs on TV. Last season, Fox averaged a 10.5 rating and 17 million viewers for its regular-season games; CBS averaged a 10.0 rating and 16.2 million viewers.

In addition, a quick extension would keep the league from opening the process to other TV channels.

The extensions also make sense to the league for a number of reasons. Media and NFL sources said the league wants to match the contracts for CBS and Fox with the term of ESPN’s deal, which is scheduled to run through 2013. Sources expect Sunday night game broadcaster NBC eventually will sign a two-year extension to move to 2013, as well, though it’s not known whether a Super Bowl would be part of that extension.

Some sources also suggest that the league is looking to shore up its media deals before its labor issues come to a head.

The owners opted out of the current collective-bargaining agreement last May, shaving the last two years off the deal and making 2010 its last season. While 2011 is covered under the current media deals, the league would like revenue locked in for a significant period of time.

New NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith has expressed confidence a new deal can be cut, but NFL owner sources have not expressed similar enthusiasm. The owners contend that the players got too good of a deal in the 2006 CBA extension.

There are other reasons than just a lockout war chest to extend by two years. With the economy uncertain, neither side might want to commit to a longer-term extension, analysts said.

“If they could get an extension, even if they get a slight increase, the NFL would take that until they see which way the economy is headed,” said sports media consultant Mike Trager. “This also shores them up against a collective-bargaining action.”

 
Done deal - Red Zone channel coming to Comcast as well

Link

PHILADELPHIA & NEW YORK--Comcast Corporation and the National Football League announced today that they have reached a new, long-term agreement regarding carriage of NFL Network and complete settlement of all outstanding legal disputes. The carriage agreement consists of a broad array of video content, including the live (24/7) Network, video on demand for Comcast’s Digital Classic cable customers, and the ability to offer the NFL’s RedZone Channel when it is created.

Under the terms of the agreement, Comcast will begin repositioning NFL Network from the Sports Entertainment Package to its Digital Classic level of service with a full launch by August 1, reaching nearly two-thirds of the company’s total digital customer base. In addition to NFL Network’s in-studio shows, commentary and live-game broadcasts, Comcast’s Digital Classic customers will now have access to a robust suite of NFL content On Demand, including game highlights, game replays, the “best” of NFL Films, players and coaches interviews, local team highlights, and other NFL programming whenever they want a piece of the action.

“We are delighted to have come to an agreement with the NFL,” said Brian L. Roberts, Chairman and CEO, Comcast Corporation. “Our goal has always been to provide our digital customers with access to the NFL’s unique content and, working together, we have struck the right balance between value and distribution on a variety of viewing platforms. We are looking forward to bringing the NFL’s programming to our customers just in time for the start of the NFL season.”

“We are very pleased that NFL Network and other NFL content will be widely distributed in millions of more homes on Comcast’s service,” said National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell. “We look forward to having NFL Network’s coverage of training camps and the preseason showcased this summer on Comcast. NFL Network is the only TV channel devoted exclusively to football 24/7, 365 days a year.”

The NFL and Comcast will take immediate joint action to discontinue pending legal actions before the Federal Communications Commission and a New York state court.
 
Done deal - Red Zone channel coming to Comcast as well

Link

PHILADELPHIA & NEW YORK--Comcast Corporation and the National Football League announced today that they have reached a new, long-term agreement regarding carriage of NFL Network and complete settlement of all outstanding legal disputes. The carriage agreement consists of a broad array of video content, including the live (24/7) Network, video on demand for Comcast’s Digital Classic cable customers, and the ability to offer the NFL’s RedZone Channel when it is created.

Under the terms of the agreement, Comcast will begin repositioning NFL Network from the Sports Entertainment Package to its Digital Classic level of service with a full launch by August 1, reaching nearly two-thirds of the company’s total digital customer base. In addition to NFL Network’s in-studio shows, commentary and live-game broadcasts, Comcast’s Digital Classic customers will now have access to a robust suite of NFL content On Demand, including game highlights, game replays, the “best” of NFL Films, players and coaches interviews, local team highlights, and other NFL programming whenever they want a piece of the action.

“We are delighted to have come to an agreement with the NFL,” said Brian L. Roberts, Chairman and CEO, Comcast Corporation. “Our goal has always been to provide our digital customers with access to the NFL’s unique content and, working together, we have struck the right balance between value and distribution on a variety of viewing platforms. We are looking forward to bringing the NFL’s programming to our customers just in time for the start of the NFL season.”

“We are very pleased that NFL Network and other NFL content will be widely distributed in millions of more homes on Comcast’s service,” said National Football League Commissioner Roger Goodell. “We look forward to having NFL Network’s coverage of training camps and the preseason showcased this summer on Comcast. NFL Network is the only TV channel devoted exclusively to football 24/7, 365 days a year.”

The NFL and Comcast will take immediate joint action to discontinue pending legal actions before the Federal Communications Commission and a New York state court.
The bold part i have questions about. Will every game replay be available or just the ones NFL network plays during the week?
 
derek19 said:
The bold part i have questions about. Will every game replay be available or just the ones NFL network plays during the week?
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b]NFL, Comcast Deal Will Include “On Demand” Content

Posted by Mike Florio on May 19, 2009, 9:50 a.m.

The NFL has officially announced, via that dinosaur known as a “press release,” its agreement with Comcast.

The deal includes a feature not previously disclosed. Per the release, Comcast customers will now have access to a “robust suite of NFL content On Demand, including game highlights, game replays, the ‘best’ of NFL Films, players and coaches interviews, local team highlights, and other NFL programming whenever they want a piece of the action.”

But NFL Network still won’t appear on Comcast’s basic service package. Instead, NFLN will move from a current digital tier to the “Digital Classic” package, which will result in the content being available to two-thirds of all Comcast customers — a major upgrade over the current availability of NFLN.

The launch is scheduled to happen by August 1.

“We are very pleased that NFL Network and other NFL content will be widely distributed in millions of more homes on Comcast’s service,” Commissioner Roger Goodell said. “We look forward to having NFL Network’s coverage of training camps and the preseason showcased this summer on Comcast. NFL Network is the only TV channel devoted exclusively to football 24/7, 365 days a year.”

Comcast and the NFL also agreed to take immediate steps to discontinue all pending legal disputes between the two companies.

UPDATE: The deal also includes, as previously reported, the Red Zone Channel, when the Red Zone Channel becomes available. Under the new deal between the NFL and DirecTV, it will be available not later than 2012.
\Well, that sucks. i was hoping the Red Zone channel would be available this year. As to the game replay, AFAIK, the NFLN replays every game.
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...work/index.html

The NFL is about to solve one very, very large television headache, and get some momentum it hopes to carry over into negotiations for a new labor contract with the players.

That isn't the only bit of good TV news on the horizon for the NFL. The league is also on the verge of reaching agreements with its two Sunday afternoon network partners, FOX and CBS, on contract extensions. The deals with FOX, CBS and NBC run through the end of the 2011 season, and it's likely the networks will have two years added to their deals.

Added to the deal the NFL made with DirectTV in March -- a four-year extension of the current satellite deal for Sunday games, worth $1 billion a year from 2011 through 2014 -- the league is riding a strong wave of TV profitability in bad economic times.

Rights fees with CBS and FOX, in addition to the specifics of the deal, were not immediately available. But it's likely the league will get small bumps up from the $622 million it earns from CBS annually, and the $712 million FOX is paying.

Notably absent from the network news: Progress on a new deal with NBC, which wasn't a part of the talks with the NFL. Part of the league's motivation to deal with Comcast and the networks, surely, was its desire to be able to use the Red Zone Channel on cable instead of only on satellite, and NBC wasn't part of the Red Zone deal. (The Red Zone channel is a whiparound channel following teams' scoring chances over the six-hour Sunday period when FOX and CBS have rights. The NFL wanted to make the channel available to cable systems, but could do so only if the two networks agreed to allow it be used on digital cable. When deals got made with FOX and CBS, as Sports Business Journal reported Sunday afternoon, it allowed the NFL to move close to a deal with Comcast, because the league could give the cable giant a valuable chip in the Red Zone Channel to use on Sundays.) NBC has historically been more of a bottom-line entity than other networks. But it's likely NBC, which currently pays $600 million a year for a premier Sunday night package of games, will agree to a similar two-year extension through 2013 sometime this year.

NFL Network had been carried on a pay sports tier for Comcast's 24-million subscribers, and the NFL for years has been arguing its channel should be on the regular digital cable package with the ESPNs and CNNs of the cable TV world. Now that is close to happening. The deal would mean that instead of paying about $7 per month for the channel and other pay-TV sports channels, Comcast subscribers will get NFL Network with its regular digital package -- and it will increase the number of TV homes the Network is seen in from about 35 million to close to 50 million. More importantly, it could well pave the way for the NFL to make deals with other cable companies similarly chapped at the league's demand for huge rights fees for a sports channel with only 24 hours of NFL regular-season game programming per year.

How big is this? Well, some of my acquaintances who work for the Network feared that without wider distribution, some owners tired of the five-year fight for wider distribution of the Network would have soon moved to kill the channel in the current bad economy. Comcast and the NFL had been like Pete Rozelle and Al Davis, seemingly destined to never make peace, and some employees felt the channel would never get major traction as long as league insisted that NFL Network charge cable companies more to carry its product than CNN charged for its channel.

I'm told the key player in the deal from the NFL side has been commissioner Roger Goodell, who has worked personally with Comcast chairman and CEO Brian Roberts to bridge the major differences between the two sides. Comcast, and the rest of Big Cable, has found it ridiculous (as did most sane people) that the league wanted 70 to 80 cents per viewer household for a network that televised only eight live NFL games. "Roger," one league source told me Sunday, "has made it a personal project to build a great relationship with Brian Roberts. The logjam's been broken, and I think that really helped."

Last month, an administrative law judge began hearing the dispute between the two sides, with the NFL seeking to have the channel moved from the pay tier to the digital tier. Roberts told the judge Comcast would accept the league charging a fee of 25 cents per subscriber per month. The league argued its value was much higher.

I'm also told a deal between Comcast the league was close to being done on Thursday or Friday, but it never got done. The two sides were back talking Sunday, working on some final points. These two sides have been engaged in substantive talks that have broken off many times, so it's dangerous to say categorically that a deal will get done. But I think one is very close.

As for what this means to my parent company, Time Warner, I can't tell you. I can guess. Time Warner Cable has 14.7 million cable homes, and the relationship between the league and Time Warner has been as noxious as the one between Comcast and the NFL. It could be that the league is intent on getting the deal done with Comcast first, then moving on to the second-biggest of the Big Cables, Time Warner, with the framework of a concept in place.

The deal with DirecTV, and the imminent ones with Comcast, CBS and FOX, bode well for the start of talks between the league and players this spring on a new collective bargaining agreement. NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith is expected to begin serious talks with league officials this spring.
This sounds like both sides are posturing a bit for pts on the deal. It also sounds like both sides realize that NOT making a deal hurts both parties, and that ultimately something will get done.
 
i renewed my package with charter last week to get my " yearly discount " and they informed me they don't have any future pending plans to bring on the nfl network on their system........just a heads up for you guys with charter..... :shrug:

 
Looks like NFLN is now back to "free" today on Comcast. I now have it as part of my regular subscription.

 
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Crap, I am going try to view it when I get home. It really pissed me off when they made this a pay for channel.

 
I wish the NFL would be reasonable with smaller cable providers. Got this in response to an e-mail to my cable company.

When the NFL awarded itself an 8-game regular season package in 2007, Armstrong had the option to pay significantly increased monthly rates to carry those games. Armstrong continues to negotiate with the NFL to find a way to make these games available to our customers without passing along significant rate increases to all customers. Our offers to make the games available on a “sports tier” or on an individual basis have been rejected by the NFL Network. Each year the NFL Network 8-game package is determined a few months before the season starts. While negotiations thus far regarding the NFL Network's regular season games have proven unsuccessful, Armstrong continues to negotiate with the NFL network to make these games available to our customers in the future.
Why won't NFLN allow people who are interested to pay extra, rather than try to force cable companies to add it to a lower tier and charge everyone?
 
I wish the NFL would be reasonable with smaller cable providers. Got this in response to an e-mail to my cable company.

When the NFL awarded itself an 8-game regular season package in 2007, Armstrong had the option to pay significantly increased monthly rates to carry those games. Armstrong continues to negotiate with the NFL to find a way to make these games available to our customers without passing along significant rate increases to all customers. Our offers to make the games available on a “sports tier” or on an individual basis have been rejected by the NFL Network. Each year the NFL Network 8-game package is determined a few months before the season starts. While negotiations thus far regarding the NFL Network's regular season games have proven unsuccessful, Armstrong continues to negotiate with the NFL network to make these games available to our customers in the future.
Why won't NFLN allow people who are interested to pay extra, rather than try to force cable companies to add it to a lower tier and charge everyone?
Advertising. They make more money per ad based on the number of subscribers to their channel, so they want everyone to get it. I think most people who are interested enough to pay extra are already DirecTV customers.
 
I wish the NFL would be reasonable with smaller cable providers. Got this in response to an e-mail to my cable company.

When the NFL awarded itself an 8-game regular season package in 2007, Armstrong had the option to pay significantly increased monthly rates to carry those games. Armstrong continues to negotiate with the NFL to find a way to make these games available to our customers without passing along significant rate increases to all customers. Our offers to make the games available on a “sports tier” or on an individual basis have been rejected by the NFL Network. Each year the NFL Network 8-game package is determined a few months before the season starts. While negotiations thus far regarding the NFL Network's regular season games have proven unsuccessful, Armstrong continues to negotiate with the NFL network to make these games available to our customers in the future.
Why won't NFLN allow people who are interested to pay extra, rather than try to force cable companies to add it to a lower tier and charge everyone?
Advertising. They make more money per ad based on the number of subscribers to their channel, so they want everyone to get it. I think most people who are interested enough to pay extra are already DirecTV customers.
But some of us aren't interested in switching but would still like the opportunity to see those games. Just seems like they could work something out if they really cared about their fans. The NFL isn't making enough money?
 
Does Comcast have NFL Sunday ticket? About to move to Tulsa OK for a year and I dont want to miss my Texans and I definitely dont want to have to watch the Cowboys every week. The place i'm thinking of moving to doesn't allow satelite. HELP ME PLEASE!!!

 
Still wondering what the 2009 story is regarding the Red Zone Channel and its potential availability on Comcast and/or NFL Network? Anyone with info?

 
CrossEyed said:
But some of us aren't interested in switching but would still like the opportunity to see those games. Just seems like they could work something out if they really cared about their fans. The NFL isn't making enough money?
That's your problem, right there.This isn't about the fans -- it's about the moolah.

 

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