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NFL might start suspending over flagrant hits that are currently illeg (2 Viewers)

Looks clean to me. That's football. Most NFL players agree. Head contact happens. That's why they wear helmets in the first place.
Is leading with the helmet when striking another player legal?
He drives his shoulder right through the play. Textbook.If you are going to tackle with your shoulder, or with impact/chest, your head/helmet is going to be around the tacklee.

You cant control were the oppenent is going to end up with his helmet (unless you go "head high" intentionally,which I agree is a foul).

The only other option is to arm tackle or just not try and tackle at all. #### that. If he does that he should be cut.

 
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They can't take away the violence of the game but they have to do something about the out right spearing that isgoing on. Harrison's play on Cribbs was just down right dirty. He sized him up and then lower his head. That should be a suspension. There is no reason you do that but to inflict injury. The DeSean Jackson hit is much different and more the result of hard play, and I ddin't see where the guy led with his head into the hit.

 
Looks clean to me. That's football. Most NFL players agree. Head contact happens. That's why they wear helmets in the first place.
Is leading with the helmet when striking another player legal?
He drives his shoulder right through the play. Textbook.If you are going to tackle with your shoulder, or with impact/chest, your head/helmet is going to be around the tacklee.

You cant control were the oppenent is going to end up with his helmet (unless you go "head high" intentionally,which I agree is a foul).

The only other option is to arm tackle or just not try and tackle at all. #### that. If he does that he should be cut.
Those photos show that he made contact with the helmet first, not with the shoulder. That is illegal, stupid, and dirty as hell.
 
Looks clean to me. That's football. Most NFL players agree. Head contact happens. That's why they wear helmets in the first place.
Is leading with the helmet when striking another player legal?
He drives his shoulder right through the play. Textbook.If you are going to tackle with your shoulder, or with impact/chest, your head/helmet is going to be around the tacklee.

You cant control were the oppenent is going to end up with his helmet (unless you go "head high" intentionally,which I agree is a foul).

The only other option is to arm tackle or just not try and tackle at all. #### that. If he does that he should be cut.
Those photos show that he made contact with the helmet first, not with the shoulder. That is illegal, stupid, and dirty as hell.
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Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when you make a tackle or have a collision. Thats not dirty or a penalty. Thats a by-product of playing tackle football.

If you dont want it to happen... then start putting flags on the ball carrier.

 
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Rocky Blier is a freakin vegtable. this sport is not boxing. Head injuries can be avoided with some judicious rule changes and solid enforcement. After some crippling injuries, they outlawed the horse collar tackle, and it didn't ruin the game. The same can be done here.
Either you know something that I don't know about Bleier or you are just making crap up. Rocky is fine and is a popular speaker for businesses and other organizations. He is frequently on television and radio commercials here in Pittsburgh and is at a bunch of Steelers fundraisers, golf outings and charitable events. So I would love to why you think he is a vegetable...
 
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when you make a tackle or have a collision. Thats not dirty or a penalty. Thats a by-product of playing tackle football.If you dont want it to happen... then start putting flags on the ball carrier.
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when idiots intentionally try to hurt other players. That is dirty and a penalty. That's not a necessary or desired by-product of playing tackle football. If you don't want that to happen, suspend the idiots who stupidly risk causing serious brain damage to themselves and others.
 
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when you make a tackle or have a collision. Thats not dirty or a penalty. Thats a by-product of playing tackle football.

If you dont want it to happen... then start putting flags on the ball carrier.
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when idiots intentionally try to hurt other players. That is dirty and a penalty. That's not a necessary or desired by-product of playing tackle football. If you don't want that to happen, suspend the idiots who stupidly risk causing serious brain damage to themselves and others.
1) He drilled him waist level.2) He blasted him with his shoulder and drove it through the ballcarrier. (Which anyone can plainly see)

Are just trolling me here? Feels like Im being trolled.

 
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Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when you make a tackle or have a collision. Thats not dirty or a penalty. Thats a by-product of playing tackle football.

If you dont want it to happen... then start putting flags on the ball carrier.
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when idiots intentionally try to hurt other players. That is dirty and a penalty. That's not a necessary or desired by-product of playing tackle football. If you don't want that to happen, suspend the idiots who stupidly risk causing serious brain damage to themselves and others.
1) He drilled him waist level.2) He blasted him with his shoulder and drove it through the ballcarrier. (Which anyone can plainly see)

Are just trolling me here? Feels like Im being trolled.
I'm assuming that the photos were posted in chronological order. If so, they show that the helmets were the first point of contact.
 
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when you make a tackle or have a collision. Thats not dirty or a penalty. Thats a by-product of playing tackle football.

If you dont want it to happen... then start putting flags on the ball carrier.
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when idiots intentionally try to hurt other players. That is dirty and a penalty. That's not a necessary or desired by-product of playing tackle football. If you don't want that to happen, suspend the idiots who stupidly risk causing serious brain damage to themselves and others.
1) He drilled him waist level.2) He blasted him with his shoulder and drove it through the ballcarrier. (Which anyone can plainly see)

Are just trolling me here? Feels like Im being trolled.
I'm assuming that the photos were posted in chronological order. If so, they show that the helmets were the first point of contact.
Are your trying to say that any helmet contact, that is the initial contact, should be always illegal? Or is always dirty?Even if you dont lead with the helmet? Even if you do a textbook shoulder tackle and have it inadvertently touch helmets at waist level?

wait. yes you are. you already said as much in this thread. :lol:

 
Is leading with the helmet when striking another player legal?
in most cases yes, otherwise over half of all ball carriers would be flagged.
Leading with the helmet when striking another players = spearing = illegal hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65TCM3QhrQ15 yard penalty on AD?
I assume spearing is illegal for both offensive and defensive players. So, yes, that probably should have been a penalty.
 
Is leading with the helmet when striking another player legal?
in most cases yes, otherwise over half of all ball carriers would be flagged.
Leading with the helmet when striking another players = spearing = illegal hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D65TCM3QhrQ15 yard penalty on AD?
I assume spearing is illegal for both offensive and defensive players. So, yes, that probably should have been a penalty.
:lmao: Forget it. Just give 'em flags to pull off their belt. American tackle football should be canceled all together.

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This won't please the :lmao: when Harrison and Ward wind up :lmao: but it's in the best interest of the league, and is a necessary change. I hope they implement it immediately.
Implement what? The NFL already has had the ability to suspend players for excessively violent hits for years. Football is a violent sport and has been since the first game was played. Like it or not, players are going to get injured unless you significantly alter the way the game is played.
"There's strong testimonial for looking readily at evaluating discipline, especially in the areas of egregious and elevated dangerous hits," he said in a phone interview. "Going forward there are certain hits that occurred that will be more susceptible to suspension. There are some that could bring suspensions for what are flagrant and egregious situations."

Anderson said the NFL could make changes in its approach immediately, with Commissioner Roger Goodell having the final say. League officials will consult with the union, but he didn't expect any opposition.
from the article in the OP.
Also:
Yes, the league is taking the issue of helmet-to-helmet hits seriously. How seriously? As of Sunday, a suspension could come for a first offense, according to Chris Mortensen of ESPN.

V.P. of football operations Ray Anderson confirmed that the new rule will be announced within 48 hours after hits on Sunday that Anderson called "disturbing."

"We can't and won't tolerate what we saw Sunday," Anderson said Monday, per Mortensen. "We've got to get the message to players that these devastating hits and head shots will be met with a very necessary higher standard of accountability. We have to dispel the notion that you get one free pass in these egregious or flagrant shots."

The new rule apparently won't apply only to helmet-to-helmet hits, but it will also encompass "devastating hits" and "head shots."
 
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when you make a tackle or have a collision. Thats not dirty or a penalty. Thats a by-product of playing tackle football.

If you dont want it to happen... then start putting flags on the ball carrier.
Clue: Sometimes helmets hit when idiots intentionally try to hurt other players. That is dirty and a penalty. That's not a necessary or desired by-product of playing tackle football. If you don't want that to happen, suspend the idiots who stupidly risk causing serious brain damage to themselves and others.
1) He drilled him waist level.2) He blasted him with his shoulder and drove it through the ballcarrier. (Which anyone can plainly see)

Are just trolling me here? Feels like Im being trolled.
I'm assuming that the photos were posted in chronological order. If so, they show that the helmets were the first point of contact.
Are your trying to say that any helmet contact, that is the initial contact, should be always illegal? Or is always dirty?Even if you dont lead with the helmet? Even if you do a textbook shoulder tackle and have it inadvertently touch helmets at waist level?

wait. yes you are. you already said as much in this thread. :lmao:
The rules states that if you lead with the helmet when making a hit, it's spearing and it's illegal, as it should be. And, yes, *intentionally* leading with the helmet when making a hit is dirty.
 
James Harrison helping his cause by saying he is out to hurt people (even if slightly out of context because he also said that he isn't out to injure ... it is a fairly fine distinction between the two and a foolish thing for him to say.)

 
The rules states that if you lead with the helmet when making a hit, it's spearing and it's illegal, as it should be. And, yes, *intentionally* leading with the helmet when making a hit is dirty.
What about when you lead whith your SHOULDER and have the helmet make contact initially?The refs dont throw a penalty... because its not a penaly. He did NOT lead with the "CROWN OF HIS HELMET" (i.e. spearing) as the rule states.

You are missinterpeting the rule.

If there is any FINE its going to be for HITTING TOO HARD. Nancy Football League. You may continue to espouse it all you want.

 
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Forget it. Just give 'em flags to pull off their belt. American tackle football should be canceled all together./thread
Spearing puts the hitter at risk of a broken neck and the "hittee" at risk of serious damage. Penalizing spearing is good for the game--unless you enjoy seeing people seriously injured and things that lower that possibility would ruin the game for you--and will not result in the end of the world as we know it... nor of the NFL.
 
At what point do you realize you're completely wrong and are only arguing for these break neck helmet first hits because your team has been notorious for incorporating them into their "game plan" for years? Please get some perspective on this issue.

 
"devastating hits"
Exactly as I have been stating for a couple years now.
Here is the article you clipped parts from in full...

PITTSBURGH -- The NFL assured several of the Pittsburgh Steelers' top players during an unannounced closed-door meeting Wednesday that the league isn't trying to transform Hines Ward into Fines Ward.

NFL executive vice president Ray Anderson repeatedly emphasized during the meeting -- which included Ward, Troy Polamalu, Ben Roethlisberger, James Farrior and coach Mike Tomlin -- that the Steelers aren't being singled out for discipline.

"At the end of the day, I really got nothing out of that meeting. I don't know what they're really asking me to do," Ward told 96.1 FM's "Freak Show" radio hosts Thursday morning.

During a recent two-week stretch, four Steelers players were fined a total of $50,000 -- including $15,000 for Ward on two plays that weren't penalized by referees on the field. Anderson said the fines were to improve player safety and conduct, and no other reason.

"(The meeting) gave us a chance to get on the same page and, for lack of a better term, clear the air so this club could move on very confident that our interests are aligned with theirs and vice versa," Anderson said.

But Ward came away feeling much different, and he was clearly fired up when he called the 96.1 radio show Thursday morning.

"They said 40 percent of the fines that are given out are after a penalty is called," Ward said. "And if there's not a penalty, they review it, and then they start setting out fines after they review it.

"But that's kind of contradictory, because I had a 72-yard reception this year in Houston called back because they said that I had a pass interference call. Well, all they did was review it and say, 'Yes, the ref messed up, here's an apology, we're sorry.' They don't give me that 72-yard reception back.

"So when they look at the plays after the fact, they go back and review it, and they say, 'Oh yeah, this is a personal foul,' and then they hand out fines when there wasn't a flag. That ain't right."

Ward suggested that what's good for players should also be good for referees, and maybe the officials should be forced to pay after a poor performance.

"That was my whole argument, and they never really gave me an answer for that," Ward said. "How can you fine players because a ref may miss a call? You can't go back and then say, 'OK, yeah, I think that's a fine.' Well, give me an apology. Don't take $15,000 out my pocket, because you're not fining the referees for calls that they may miss in a game. All you do is give me an apology letter saying, 'This was an incorrect call, I'm sorry', and then move on.

"In my case, I was never flagged or penalized on the plays that I was given, but yet, they take $15,000 out my pocket. If it was an illegal hit, then the refs missed it. You can't go back and review the plays and then give out fines accordingly, based off what you say. The referees don't get a letter saying, 'You know what? You missed Hines' block, and then him and a guy got into a scuffle.'"

The meeting came about after Ward's fines caused Steelers chairman Dan Rooney and Tomlin to contact the league office for an explanation.

"There was really no clarification," Ward told 96.1 Thursday. "They stated what they wanted to state, and I stated what I wanted to state, but there was never a clear answer to, 'Is that right?,' or, 'Is that a double standard?'"

Polamalu, who hasn't been fined this year, has spoken out publicly against the numerous fines being levied, saying that the NFL is taking the physicality out of the game and coming close to turning it into "two-hand touch" and "flag football."

The Steelers' reaction prompted NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to send Anderson to Pittsburgh.

"Given the discussion last week and some of the comments that were made by the players with regard to the genuineness and sincerity of our player safety initiatives, we just felt it made sense to come here ... to engage directly with coach Tomlin and the players so we could talk things out and listen to them express their concerns about what we're doing," said Anderson.

Tomlin felt the meeting was productive, saying, "I think that's the start at laying this thing to bed and moving on and focusing on what we should focus on and that's playing football games."

Anderson stressed that an on-field penalty isn't required for a player to be fined.

"You've got seven officials at same-time speed, they're not going to catch everything," Anderson said. "We are particularly concerned about player safety violations and we will fine you even though you haven't been flagged."

Echoing Polamalu's comments, Ward says the physical nature of their inherently violent sport will be lost if the NFL makes his style of play illegal.

"If you do that, you're never going to see any good knockout hits at all," he told the Freak Show. "(It will be like), 'Look at me, let me hit you.'"
Accordingly they told him he got a "fine" "personal foul" for blocking too hard. :confused:
And now its for tackling too hard. :lmao:
 
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Why don't we just line up the best QBs in the league and run a NFL QB CHALLENGE to see which team wins the Super Bowl next year.

 
It has never been more evident who has played and who has not played football for an extended period of time then it is in this thread. Seriously.

Go watch an old Decan Jones interview if what Harrison said seems "mean". If you still can't wrap your head around what he means or what you're watching then you're the issue.

 
The rules states that if you lead with the helmet when making a hit, it's spearing and it's illegal, as it should be. And, yes, *intentionally* leading with the helmet when making a hit is dirty.
What about when you lead whith your SHOULDER and have the helmet make contact initially?The refs dont throw a penalty... because its not a penaly. He did NOT lead with the "CROWN OF HIS HELMET" (i.e. spearing) as the rule states.

You ae missinterpeting the rule.

If there is any FINE its going to be for HITTING TOO HARD. Nancy Football League. You may continue to espouse it all you want.
One of us is misinterpreting the rule, yes. That person is you. Hitting with the crown of the helmet is a point of emphasis, but it is illegal to hit with any part of the helmet.NCAA rules: http://sagridironofficials.blogspot.com/20...t-spearing.html

The use of the helmet & spearing

Probably the most argued about rulings this year have been the illegal use of the helmet / spearing calls. I draw your attention to the relevant sections of the 2007 NCAA rulebook that discuss this:

* Points of Emphasis (Page 8, regarding the Football Code)

It is noted that the Code emphasizes the following unethical practices: “Using the helmet as a weapon. The helmet is for protection of the player...” and “players and coaches should emphasize the elimination of spearing.”

* Points of Emphasis (Page 10)

Intentional helmet-to-helmet contact is never legal, nor is any other blow directed toward an opponent’s head. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified.

Additionally, the committee altered Rules 9-1-2-l and n slightly to encourage officials to penalize head-down contact and leading with the crown of the helmet when tackling.

* Football Code (Page 13, regarding Coaching Ethics)

The following are unethical practices:

...

b. Using the football helmet as a weapon. The helmet is for the protection of the player.

* Rule 2-24-1: Spearing (Page FR-52)

Spearing is the use of the helmet (including the face mask) in an attempt to punish an opponent.

* Rule 9-1-2-l, m & n (Page FR-118)

l. No player shall use his helmet (including the face mask) to butt or ram an opponent in an attempt to punish him (A.R. 9-1-2-XVI).

m. There shall be no spearing (A.R. 9-1-2-XVII).

n. No player shall strike a runner with the crown or the top of his helmet in an attempt to punish him.

Summary of NFL rules: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

(A 15-yard penalty shall be assessed for:)

A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent.

Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily.

 
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Why don't we just line up the best QBs in the league and run a NFL QB CHALLENGE to see which team wins the Super Bowl next year.
No defenders, just cones. The defensive secondary already has one arm tied behind their back. Let's just phase them out completely.
 
NCAA rules: WAIT WHAT?

The use of the helmet & spearing SPEARING DIDNT HAPPEN.

* Points of Emphasis (Page 8, regarding the Football Code)

It is noted that the Code emphasizes the following unethical practices: “Using the helmet as a weapon. The helmet is for protection of the player...” and “players and coaches should emphasize the elimination of spearing.”

* Points of Emphasis (Page 10)

Intentional helmet-to-helmet contact is never legal, nor is any other blow directed toward an opponent’s head. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.

...

b. Using the football helmet as a weapon. The helmet is for the protection of the player.

* Rule 2-24-1: Spearing (Page FR-52)

Spearing is the use of the helmet (including the face mask) in an attempt to punish an opponent. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.

* Rule 9-1-2-l, m & n (Page FR-118)

l. No player shall use his helmet (including the face mask) to butt or ram an opponent in an attempt to punish him (A.R. 9-1-2-XVI). THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.

m. There shall be no spearing (A.R. 9-1-2-XVII).

n. No player shall strike a runner with the crown or the top of his helmet in an attempt to punish him. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.

Summary of NFL rules: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

(A 15-yard penalty shall be assessed for:)

A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent.

Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.
Your post wasnt even aimed what actually happened on the field. Again: Get a clue.
 
It has never been more evident who has played and who has not played football for an extended period of time then it is in this thread. Seriously. Go watch an old Decan Jones interview if what Harrison said seems "mean". If you still can't wrap your head around what he means or what you're watching then you're the issue.
Totally agree. Well said.
 
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These spearing hits that are no doubt intentional are chicken ####. Players make a conscious decision on those hits. It's not that hard. Stay away from the head.

Something tells me if these DBs & LBs were catching passes it would be a different story. In fact, I know it would be a different story.

This has come WAY late, but better late than never. It's been a joke.

 
If they threw in a condition like the tackler made no attempt to wrap up the ballcarrier or intended reciever I'd have no problem with it.
How about if the tackler got shoulder or head high.Or if the runner inititiates by dropping his head.You know why this never happens on the playground? Because ball carriers know better then to drop their damn head into the oncoming tacklers. They protect themselves. The tacklers also dont strike people head high, because they know better then to hit towards the head when they are upright.If they do tackle high (only/best option), its a simple arm tackle and not a blow.The ball carrier needs to learn to deliver with his shoulder and not just drop his head into the tackle zone.Absorb the punishement with your torso and legs. Not your neck and head.
 
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If they threw in a condition like the tackler made no attempt to wrap up the ballcarrier or intended reciever I'd have no problem with it.
How about if the tackler got shoulder or head high.Or if the runner inititiates by dropping his head.You know why this never happens on the playground? Because ball carriers know better then to drop their damn head into the oncoming tacklers. They protect themselves. The tacklers also dont strike people head high, because they know better then to hit towards the head when they are upright.If they do tackle high (only/best option), its a simple arm tackle and not a blow.The ball carrier needs to learn to deliver with his shoulder and not just drop his head into the tackle zone.Absorb the punishement with your torso and legs. Not your neck and head.
We never wore helmets on the playground. Is that you point?
 
If they threw in a condition like the tackler made no attempt to wrap up the ballcarrier or intended reciever I'd have no problem with it.
How about if the tackler got shoulder or head high.Or if the runner inititiates by dropping his head.You know why this never happens on the playground? Because ball carriers know better then to drop their damn head into the oncoming tacklers. They protect themselves. The tacklers also dont strike people head high, because they know better then to hit towards the head when they are upright.If they do tackle high (only/best option), its a simple arm tackle and not a blow.The ball carrier needs to learn to deliver with his shoulder and not just drop his head into the tackle zone.Absorb the punishement with your torso and legs. Not your neck and head.
We never wore helmets on the playground. Is that you point?
You dont need helmets to play tackle football. My point is... the runners need to have a burden of responsibility as well. Dont drop your head down to deliver a blow or absorb a blow. You will get hurt.The tackler SHOULD be delivering blows at gut/waist/thigh/knee/ankle level.Dont use your helmet as a weapon.Dont use your helmet as a shield.If you are gonna drop your head as a ball carrier... go to the ground.Collisions are instant - bang bang - and the tackler KNOWS to not hit the guy on the ground and not aim for the ground area.
 
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Remember, nobody is talking about hits on a RB where he lowers his head & the defender spears him. I'm talking about WRs & TEs up in the air trying to catch a pass & these guys come flying in aiming for the head.

By the way, for those saying it's people who've never played are the ones for this rule change, don't be silly. I've played plenty of football & it's my opinion this rule is urgently needed.

Watch how less often these hits will happen when they start suspending players. On the vast majority of these hits, they know exactly what they're doing. These hits can be a life & death thing down the road for the players on the receiving end of them. Like I said, it's become a joke (an unfunny one).

 
Summary of NFL rules: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

(A 15-yard penalty shall be assessed for:)

A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent. THIS DID HAPPEN.

Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.
Your post wasnt even aimed what actually happened on the field. Again: Get a clue.
What part of that says that only hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal, as you claimed?Again: Get a clue.

 
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Summary of NFL rules: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

(A 15-yard penalty shall be assessed for:)

A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent. THIS DID HAPPEN.

Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.
Your post wasnt even aimed what actually happened on the field. Again: Get a clue.
What part of that says that only hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal, as you claimed?Again: Get a clue.
He didnt use his helmet to do this. He delievered with his shoulder.You do know "use" means?

But im glad to see you didnt argue the rest of the quoted text.

 
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Steve Young is full of crap. You can hit the guy as hard as you want, just don't aim for the head. These violent head hits can be life changing. When a receiver is up in the air & you have a free shot, just don't aim him for the head.

 
I just heard that NFL will announce wednesday that players will face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots."

I fully expect them to also pull all "NFL's Greatest Hits" videos off all shelves and websites.

 
Remember, nobody is talking about hits on a RB where he lowers his head & the defender spears him. I'm talking about WRs & TEs up in the air trying to catch a pass & these guys come flying in aiming for the head.

By the way, for those saying it's people who've never played are the ones for this rule change, don't be silly. I've played plenty of football & it's my opinion this rule is urgently needed.

Watch how less often these hits will happen when they start suspending players. On the vast majority of these hits, they know exactly what they're doing. These hits can be a life & death thing down the road for the players on the receiving end of them. Like I said, it's become a joke (an unfunny one).
I agree that everything possible needs to be done to protect players on both sides of the ball.I just don't believe in most cases of helmet to helmet contact the defender is either doing it intentionally or maliciously and the offensive player usually contributes to the way contact is actually initiated just as much as the defender does.

The Meriweather vs Heap shot is a clear example of intentionally using the helmet as a weapon.

The Harrison/Robinson tackles...not so much.

Folks arguing those hits aren't or shouldn't be suspendable aren't arguing in favor of injuries but rather that assigning sole blame to the defender isn't a fair interpretation of the situation.

 
I just heard that NFL will announce wednesday that players will face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots."I fully expect them to also pull all "NFL's Greatest Hits" videos off all shelves and websites.
Yes, this rule change will doom the NFL to obscurity, just like when they made that stupid decision to outlaw clotheslining.
 
You dont need helmets to play tackle football.
Brilliant observation. Yes, requiring NFL players to play without helmets is the solution to the problem of too many players sustaining brain damage. They should make you NFL Commissioner ASAP.
Dont be dumb.Helmets dont need to be the ONLY way to protect ball carriers head.

The ball carrier can do much of his own protection... regardless of having a helmet.

This is standard fair on any playground (which was the point).

Just as its illegal for a player (at any position) to go HIGH on another player.

 
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I personally think some of the qb concussions are due to the existing rules. The qb's know that a penalty can be called so they do not protect themselves. In the 70's, the qb's knew they were going to get hit and acted accordingly. Either by throwing the ball away or taking a sack.

 
Summary of NFL rules: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

(A 15-yard penalty shall be assessed for:)

A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent. THIS DID HAPPEN.

Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.
Your post wasnt even aimed what actually happened on the field. Again: Get a clue.
What part of that says that only hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal, as you claimed?Again: Get a clue.
He didnt use his helmet to do this. He delievered with his shoulder.You do know "use" means?

But im glad to see you didnt argue the rest of the quoted text.
What happened to your claim that only hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal?
 
Well this is what the NFL has come to. My goodness, when you see a WR running free through a zone go half speed before you make contact or else you may hit the guy to hard and get suspended. Great job Goodell, football is dead.

 
Summary of NFL rules: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

(A 15-yard penalty shall be assessed for:)

A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent. THIS DID HAPPEN.

Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily. THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.
Your post wasnt even aimed what actually happened on the field. Again: Get a clue.
What part of that says that only hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal, as you claimed?Again: Get a clue.
He didnt use his helmet to do this. He delievered with his shoulder.You do know "use" means?

But im glad to see you didnt argue the rest of the quoted text.
What happened to your claim that only hitting with the crown of the helmet is illegal?
My claim is the helmet-to-helmet contact occurs on every play. Especially between offensive and defensive linemen.To USE the helemt to deliver a blow (such as the rules state) is different entirely. He didnt do that. It didnt happen.

 
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BTW, it doesn't matter about helmet to helmet or shoulder to helmet or forearm to helmet. The NFL is saying stay away from the head when a player is vulnerable & that's something that can be done, IMO.

You can't blame these WRs & TEs for wanting some protection. A violent hit to the head can change their life. There's nothing wrong hitting a defenseless player mid-body instead of in the head.

Granted, their are times when a defender may have to hit a guy fairly high. In that case, it shouldn't be a fine or suspension. However, there's a bunch of these hits to the head that are unnecessary. That's what should be legislated.

 
I just heard that NFL will announce wednesday that players will face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots."I fully expect them to also pull all "NFL's Greatest Hits" videos off all shelves and websites.
Yes, this rule change will doom the NFL to obscurity, just like when they made that stupid decision to outlaw clotheslining.
It's the emasculation of the NFL continued. And they leave the rule undefined to enforce at will. This rule is a joke and they will lose more fans than they gain with it.
 

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