NFL Mock Draft - 2 Rounds (1 Viewer)

[NoFBinLA]

2 Round Mock

As always, I expect nothing but the best criticism from the Shark Pool - have at it!

Side Notes:

1 - I wrote BPA rather than BFA (Best FIT Available) on a player in the late second that I already know is going to send bullets my direction. I meant he's a good fit for what I think they have to worry about given who will be in front of this player. I recognize there are better players around, just not better fits for what they should need IMO.

2 - It's my birthday - be nice.

I might take one more run at this before the 26th - depends on my schedule and what Cec and the boys have me doing.

Will try to be around to debate but I have a lunch meeting at 1 PST and as I said, it's my birthday and I may be pulled away by family in early evening. Which for you Easterners is late night anyway......

Enjoy!

 

[ditka85]

Kevin Smith to Indy is interesting. Kenton Keith is very pedestrian to say the least.

 

[Bankerguy]

Cowboy feedback......I do think Cason is a strong possibilty.

28th pick if NOT traded for a WE would be Phillps IMO.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Very good job. I like this one better than alot I have seen recently.

I really like how you have the Bills taking DRC in the 1st. That is who I hope they get when it all goes down. But I love how D.Thomas falls to them in the 2nd. That would be probably one of the best case scenarios for us Bills fans.

In fact, I just saw a mock (released same day) which was good as well, but has the Bills drastically reaching for Thomas in the 1st and then reaching again in the 2nd for a TE.

So just as a Bills fan, I would MUCH rather the draft go your way.

Yours: DRC, D.Thomas

Other: D.Thomas, Keller

 

[NoFBinLA]

Cowboy feedback......I do think Cason is a strong possibilty.28th pick if NOT traded for a WE would be Phillps IMO.

I went back and forth on that about 10 times, easily. And I think it would be a good pick. Just thought they needed a RB more -although they could very well wait a little for it.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Very good job. I like this one better than alot I have seen recently. I really like how you have the Bills taking DRC in the 1st. That is who I hope they get when it all goes down. But I love how D.Thomas falls to them in the 2nd. That would be probably one of the best case scenarios for us Bills fans.In fact, I just saw a mock (released same day) which was good as well, but has the Bills drastically reaching for Thomas in the 1st and then reaching again in the 2nd for a TE. So just as a Bills fan, I would MUCH rather the draft go your way.Yours: DRC, D.ThomasOther: D.Thomas, Keller

I just think nobody is hot for any WRs the first half of the 1st round - and any number of them can go in any order at the end of the first round. I think that they can wait and get a decent WR to go across the field from Evans, and lock down the Corner. We'll see.Thanks for the input!

 

[Ridgelake]

Andy, from a Cowboy perspective, I think its off.

Its my understanding the Stewart has a 1st round grade, but Felix does not. Though I'm not sure what effect his toe problems have on his grade. But talent alone, he's a 1st rounder. Cason, Talib, and Flowers have 2nd round grades. I think Phillips has a 1st roudn grade as well.

If Dallas is going to burn a 1st on a RB, then do it at 22 when one is on the board with a 1st roudn grade. Then come back at 28 and take the 2nd round graded CB. It doesnt make sense to take the 2nd round graded CB at 22, then a 2nd round graded RB at 28.

The way the boards are shaking out, I suspect Dallas will take a non-CB at 22, a guy they have rated as a 1st rounder. The 1st round graded CBs will be off the board by 22. They then come back at 28 and fill the must-need CB spot. With a very similar guy they could have had at 22.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Andy, from a Cowboy perspective, I think its off.Its my understanding the Stewart has a 1st round grade, but Felix does not. Though I'm not sure what effect his toe problems have on his grade. But talent alone, he's a 1st rounder. Cason, Talib, and Flowers have 2nd round grades. I think Phillips has a 1st roudn grade as well.If Dallas is going to burn a 1st on a RB, then do it at 22 when one is on the board with a 1st roudn grade. Then come back at 28 and take the 2nd round graded CB. It doesnt make sense to take the 2nd round graded CB at 22, then a 2nd round graded RB at 28.The way the boards are shaking out, I suspect Dallas will take a non-CB at 22, a guy they have rated as a 1st rounder. The 1st round graded CBs will be off the board by 22. They then come back at 28 and fill the must-need CB spot. With a very similar guy they could have had at 22.

Certainly something to chew on. I suppose I may be a tad higher on Jones that others - although I have seen him rated on other peoples lists as a first rounder. If that's how the Boys see him (2nd rounder material) - and maybe they do - then that certainly changes the landscape a bit. I've also liked Cason a bit - and perhaps him hanging around my 1st round is a relic of that - but have thought he was a borderline first rounder. Given that they don't have a pick until late in the second, I figured they would rather get a CB now than risk a run in the second.On the other hand you make a very good point about Stewart. Perhaps the gamble that another CB (or Phillips) would still be there at the second 1st round pick is a better bet and worth the risk to grab Stewart.Food for thought... thanks!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Interesting to see Detroit pass on Mendenhall.

Eagles feedback - DeShawn Jackson is a good pick, but the Eagles are likely to be wary of his size. KR/WR double threat is nice, but they may go for a bigger guy. They've had a cavalcade of WRs in for meet and greets the past several days.

If McKelvin gets that close, I think they move up to get him and go WR in Round 2.

Round 2 - I think they go S more than CB here, so DaJuan Morgan is where I lean. If you think Terrell Thomas can play both, then, I can agree with this.

Good job overall.

BTW - Love a RB in Round 2 to the Colts.

 

[switz]

11. Buffalo –Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State (last mock: Kentwan Balmer, DT , North Carolina) As much as they failed to get a WR to go opposite Lee Evans in Free Agency, there are enough WRs worth a shot at the middle of the pack to go later and with questions to the top guys, they might want to wait. However, DRC has had a great pre-Draft period and would be an incredible playmaking upgrade for the Bills.

Recently heard that the Bills consider DRC one of the elite in the draft, and may even be willing to move up to get him. They feel it's both a need, and that there is a huge drop off between him and all the other players at that position.

 

[vandyt]

Personally, Id be surprised to see Clady in the top 10, let alone the top 5.

Albert certainly won't make it down to Pitt.

Mayo is being viewed as a top 15-20 selection, and might be the #1 LB on most teams' boards...37 seems extremely late for him.

What did Quentin Groves do to fall to 51? His heart surgery doesn't seem to be a big issue.

I still don't understand the logic in people projecting RBs to SD early...just because they lost Turner doesn't mean they need to replace him with a similar talent. Not unless they think LT's injury is going to linger into next season.

Dan Connor would be a very ugly fit in the type of 3-4 scheme Nolan runs.

Would be very surprised to see the Vikings take Calias Campbell at 17..thats at least a round too early for him.

Chris Johnson isn't going to be the type of runner Detroit is looking for. They are moving to more of a power attack, and already have Bell, who is a similar player to Johnson.

 

[switz]

Its my understanding the Stewart has a 1st round grade, but Felix does not.

Depends on who you ask, but the majority of sources I've checked have him as a late 1st round to early 2nd round grade RB.Projected 1-2

Ranked #4 RB

Stewart has been falling recently due to the toe injury, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Jones go ahead of him. It's not likely, but ti wouldn't surprise me.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Interesting to see Detroit pass on Mendenhall.Eagles feedback - DeShawn Jackson is a good pick, but the Eagles are likely to be wary of his size. KR/WR double threat is nice, but they may go for a bigger guy. They've had a cavalcade of WRs in for meet and greets the past several days.If McKelvin gets that close, I think they move up to get him and go WR in Round 2. Round 2 - I think they go S more than CB here, so DaJuan Morgan is where I lean. If you think Terrell Thomas can play both, then, I can agree with this. Good job overall.BTW - Love a RB in Round 2 to the Colts.

I could see Philly moving up - but trades in mock drafts scare me so I avoid them.

 

[travdogg]

I don't see Indy taking a RB with their top pick. They have had success getting undrafted guys like keith and Rhodes before and they have much bigger needs than a backup RB. Maybe in round 4 or 5 they'll take a RB but not with their 1st pick.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Personally, Id be surprised to see Clady in the top 10, let alone the top 5. Albert certainly won't make it down to Pitt. Mayo is being viewed as a top 15-20 selection, and might be the #1 LB on most teams' boards...37 seems extremely late for him. What did Quentin Groves do to fall to 51? His heart surgery doesn't seem to be a big issue.I still don't understand the logic in people projecting RBs to SD early...just because they lost Turner doesn't mean they need to replace him with a similar talent. Not unless they think LT's injury is going to linger into next season.Dan Connor would be a very ugly fit in the type of 3-4 scheme Nolan runs.Would be very surprised to see the Vikings take Calias Campbell at 17..thats at least a round too early for him. Chris Johnson isn't going to be the type of runner Detroit is looking for. They are moving to more of a power attack, and already have Bell, who is a similar player to Johnson.

More food for thought. I want to respond to some of it, but I have a meeting, so I will have to do so later. But more good food for thought.

 

[switz]

I don't see Indy taking a RB with their top pick. They have had success getting undrafted guys like keith and Rhodes before and they have much bigger needs than a backup RB. Maybe in round 4 or 5 they'll take a RB but not with their 1st pick.

I've been all over this concept that the Colts are going to draft an RB early. They are happy with Addai (more than happy), they feel Keith needs some competition, but look at how they acquired Keith, he was a UFA out of the CFL... they don't draft backups with high picks.

It's wishful thinking IMO by some here that the Colts raft an RB early, to support their doubt about Addai. I haven't seen a respectable (Brandt, Kirwan, Coyle, Gosselin, Mayock, Kiper, etc.) draftnik suggest the Colts take an RB early.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I don't see Indy taking a RB with their top pick. They have had success getting undrafted guys like keith and Rhodes before and they have much bigger needs than a backup RB. Maybe in round 4 or 5 they'll take a RB but not with their 1st pick.

They'd probably like a LB first, but a RB is certainly on the shopping list.

 

[Ridgelake]

Certainly something to chew on. I suppose I may be a tad higher on Jones that others - although I have seen him rated on other peoples lists as a first rounder. If that's how the Boys see him (2nd rounder material) - and maybe they do - then that certainly changes the landscape a bit. I've also liked Cason a bit - and perhaps him hanging around my 1st round is a relic of that - but have thought he was a borderline first rounder. Given that they don't have a pick until late in the second, I figured they would rather get a CB now than risk a run in the second.On the other hand you make a very good point about Stewart. Perhaps the gamble that another CB (or Phillips) would still be there at the second 1st round pick is a better bet and worth the risk to grab Stewart.Food for thought... thanks!

Andy, I think they have to get a CB in the first. You're right, they can't wait til 61 to get one. The talent drop off between 28 and 61 will be significant. What I am saying is that there likely won't be a material drop off in CB talent between 22 and 28. But there may be a material drop off in talent at another position like RB, S, or possibly OL. Basically the 1st round graded guys will be gone by 28, but a couple will be available at 22. So this would suggest taking the non-CB at 22, and the CB at 28.It would not surprise me at all to see Dallas move up to the 11-16 range to take a 1st round graded CB, kicking in #61 to do so. It would futher not surprise me to see them trade out of 28, picking up a 2nd and 3rd, to a team wanting a QB (Atl maybe?). So Dallas would get a mid-first, mid-second, mid and late 3rd. They could come out with something like Mike Jenkins, Early Doucet, Matt Forte, and Red Bryant.

 

[theedge]

I think the Colts will go 2nd DE, 3rd DT, 4th LB, OL or RB (BPA). They will probably get another TE, and their requisite Corner.

 

[Norseman]

20. Tampa Bay - Limas Sweed, WR, Indiana Texas

 

[NoFBinLA]

20. Tampa Bay - Limas Sweed, WR, Indiana Texas

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS.My only defense is I proofed it ultra-late at night so a few cut and paste errors may have survived. :(

Sorry - I know better.....

 

[NoFBinLA]

I don't see Indy taking a RB with their top pick. They have had success getting undrafted guys like keith and Rhodes before and they have much bigger needs than a backup RB. Maybe in round 4 or 5 they'll take a RB but not with their 1st pick.

I've been all over this concept that the Colts are going to draft an RB early. They are happy with Addai (more than happy), they feel Keith needs some competition, but look at how they acquired Keith, he was a UFA out of the CFL... they don't draft backups with high picks.

It's wishful thinking IMO by some here that the Colts raft an RB early, to support their doubt about Addai. I haven't seen a respectable (Brandt, Kirwan, Coyle, Gosselin, Mayock, Kiper, etc.) draftnik suggest the Colts take an RB early.

I'm not sure that's called for.

I'm not saying it's a perfect mock - but I probably don't have the hours at the job those guys do yet.

So I'm not sure taking shots at my respectability is warranted.

Still, thanks for reading Switz - I usually respect what you write so, as with all these posts, food for thought.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Why does Balmer fall to the mid 2nd. I think that's where he belongs, but teams reach for these athletic hit and miss DTs all the time.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Certainly something to chew on. I suppose I may be a tad higher on Jones that others - although I have seen him rated on other peoples lists as a first rounder. If that's how the Boys see him (2nd rounder material) - and maybe they do - then that certainly changes the landscape a bit. I've also liked Cason a bit - and perhaps him hanging around my 1st round is a relic of that - but have thought he was a borderline first rounder. Given that they don't have a pick until late in the second, I figured they would rather get a CB now than risk a run in the second.On the other hand you make a very good point about Stewart. Perhaps the gamble that another CB (or Phillips) would still be there at the second 1st round pick is a better bet and worth the risk to grab Stewart.Food for thought... thanks!

Andy, I think they have to get a CB in the first. You're right, they can't wait til 61 to get one. The talent drop off between 28 and 61 will be significant. What I am saying is that there likely won't be a material drop off in CB talent between 22 and 28. But there may be a material drop off in talent at another position like RB, S, or possibly OL. Basically the 1st round graded guys will be gone by 28, but a couple will be available at 22. So this would suggest taking the non-CB at 22, and the CB at 28.It would not surprise me at all to see Dallas move up to the 11-16 range to take a 1st round graded CB, kicking in #61 to do so. It would futher not surprise me to see them trade out of 28, picking up a 2nd and 3rd, to a team wanting a QB (Atl maybe?). So Dallas would get a mid-first, mid-second, mid and late 3rd. They could come out with something like Mike Jenkins, Early Doucet, Matt Forte, and Red Bryant.

I could certainly see those scenarios. I have avoided trades in these mocks as they tend to be real hard to predict and these things are enough work as it is.But that's a trade scenario I believe more readily than up to grab McFadden. Like I said, I think it's a fair point that they could wait on the CB a few picks in order to get a better graded RB.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Why does Balmer fall to the mid 2nd. I think that's where he belongs, but teams reach for these athletic hit and miss DTs all the time.

Well, originally I had him go much earlier, but not this version. Several times I put him into other spots, but I guess at the end of the day while someone might reach for him, it just didn't happen here.It could very well, but after a while I felt like I was trying to force him earlier just because he might go early. So I just let my draft flow as it flows, if that makes sense, rather than force something that - for whatever reason, right or wrong - didn't feel right.

I would not be shocked if he went earlier. He may, if there is a version three before the 26th. But it just didn't fall that way this time out.

 

[travdogg]

I think the Colts will go 2nd DE, 3rd DT, 4th LB, OL or RB (BPA). They will probably get another TE, and their requisite Corner.

I'm thinking that there might be a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round that Indy would take. Maybe Earl Bennett or perhaps Early Doucet falls.