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NFL source: Patriots to meet with Jordan Todman next week (1 Viewer)
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Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Todman would be a lock top 6 rookie pick if this actually turned into a real pick..
Spike
Footballguy
I'm a Pats fan, so I figure I know at least something of how things operate around here, and I strongly disagree with this.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I'm guessing if things worked out for Todman, he would likely receive the majority of the carries. I don't think BJGE or Woodhead have the capacity to be full time backs in the long term.I certainly am not making a prediction here but I like Todman, and if he was drafted to the Pats, I think he could lock down the primary RB job, and I think that would mean seeing at least 50% of the carries.. But he has the capacity to do more..NE working out Todman doesn't mean anything, so I don't want to get ahead of myself here, but if I was sitting at 1.05 and this did happen, I would be tempted.. He'd certainly be on my radar.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Where do you see him going in the rookie draft if drafted by the pats?And I don't know what being a Pats fan has to do with predicting rookie draft ranking honestly..Or are you disagreeing with the Pats drafting Todman? I would understand that...
Spike
Footballguy
If he's drafted by the Pats, I see him going higher than he should; possibly in the range you mentioned.The "being a Pats fan" part is that I get to see the team doesn't (anymore, not since Corey Dillon) go the "bellcow RB" route. They are firmly entrenched in RBBC. So I don't think he's get the touches necessary to be worthy of a 1.06 (or better) pick.I don't have any thoughts one way or another to the Pats drafting him. It would depend on "when". In the first round, heck no. With their second pick in the second round, sure! (I fully expect them to trade their first pick in the second round for a King's Ransom.)
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
NM...misread your postHopefully he is better than the previous RB drafted from Connecticut has been so far in the NFL...
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Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
I don't think Todman is a first round RB.. But I do think he's drafted top 6 in rookie drafts if he ends up being a second round pick by the Pats..What he does in NE would be another story obviously. But he could turn out to be worthy of a "bellcow" roll. Not that any team is leaning that way. But he could also be in an RBBC and still be worth a top 6 rookie pick this year. I don't understand why you'd think otherwise... The landscape for RB's in the NFL is changing, yet there will always be 2-4 RB's chosen in the top 6 rookie draft picks. After Ingram/Green/Jones this year, if Todman landed in NE, he certainly deserves to be somewhere in that next 3 picks...I've seen plenty of Patriots games, news, and rumors as well.. Not many of us here haven't. Everyone thought after Corey Dillon there would be a new top dog runner in NE, that changed.. Things change.. It could certainly change from it's current state..Hmm, 2 great young TE's on the field.. No star WR.. Sounds like prime running and short yardage opportunities..
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
The Pats meet with, eat with, and have a ton of guys in to workout and they rarely end up drafting them.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
I think I mentioned this in another thread about a rookie worked out by the pats. IIRC, in the past several years (I can't recall exactly how many) the pats have not drafted any of the players they have worked out.
loose circuits
Footballguy
so do loads of teams, not sure they each deserve their own thread. Maybe we could have 1 thread to mention all of it
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
It's just fun to think/talk about the possibilities. I'm sure everyone here knows this means very little, but makes good conversation I think.
loose circuits
Footballguy
yeah, after I posted that, realized we just need anything to talk about with no free agency this year
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that IMHO that most teams probably don't draft players that they workout. IMHO, that's for a few reasons:
1. The NFL draft is like a chess game, one in which you don't want the other teams to know your next move. If teams drafted the players they worked out then it would make their draft predictable giving all the other teams an advantage over them during the draft. Even we that are in fantasy football try to figure out our league mate drafting tendencies.
2. IMHO, teams probably workout players that they have some questions or concerns about and MAY consider drafting them later in the round, therefore; they bring them in to work them out to see if they've ranked or graded them properly.
With that being said, we really don't know if a team will draft x player but the possibility exist.
Giddy Up!
Tex
1. The NFL draft is like a chess game, one in which you don't want the other teams to know your next move. If teams drafted the players they worked out then it would make their draft predictable giving all the other teams an advantage over them during the draft. Even we that are in fantasy football try to figure out our league mate drafting tendencies.
2. IMHO, teams probably workout players that they have some questions or concerns about and MAY consider drafting them later in the round, therefore; they bring them in to work them out to see if they've ranked or graded them properly.
With that being said, we really don't know if a team will draft x player but the possibility exist.
Giddy Up!
Tex
While they may be firmly entrenched in RBBC now, that doesn't mean it will be that way forever. It means that with what they have, that is what they are doing. I think Dillon and Smith showed that NE will go with a bellcow when they have one.Do you really think that if Maroney (1st round pick) actually ended up being a really good RB then NE would still be RBBC now? I don't think it would be RBBC, so I wouldn't be surprised if NE took a RB in the 1st or 2nd and made him the bellcow if he ended up being what Maroney didn't.
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CompetitiveEdgeFootball
Footballguy
There's not a chance in hell the Patriots spend a 1st round pick on a RB.
I'd be fine with a RBBC including this player (as a pats fan.)
It's a system that works. Woodhead = the new Kevin Faulk piece. BJGE is one of the more underrated backs in the league, who provided more than fair production for what they give him financially speaking.
Todman may not be a first round RB, but that's what makes sense about him.
Also, from a different string concerning Mikel Leshoure, but applicable to first round RBs in general:
There's no way the pats select Mikel Leshoure at 28. Firstly, the guy isn't even receiving a first round grade. Secondly, with eroding OL and DL, no pash rush and a defense that ranked in the bottom 1/3 of the league last year in most statistical categories, it's almost a given they'll address team needs. Their offense was statistically the best in the league last year (http://www.footballo...m/stats/teamoff) and their running game was clearly in no way a weakness with their stable of backs providing a surprisingly effective though unspectacular effort, good for a statistical 2nd in the league (see above link.)
It is very possible the pats bring in a young back to develop in this years draft, but we won't see him until the later rounds. Keep your ears open about small school backs, or backs that had been highly regarded whose performance suffered because of injuries, bringing their draft status down. These typical patriots RB selections.
Also, with many good veteran RBs hitting the market through free agency, including Ronnie Brown, DeAngelo Williams, possibly Michael Bush... they may address their need with a proven veteran.
I'd be fine with a RBBC including this player (as a pats fan.)
It's a system that works. Woodhead = the new Kevin Faulk piece. BJGE is one of the more underrated backs in the league, who provided more than fair production for what they give him financially speaking.
Todman may not be a first round RB, but that's what makes sense about him.
Also, from a different string concerning Mikel Leshoure, but applicable to first round RBs in general:
There's no way the pats select Mikel Leshoure at 28. Firstly, the guy isn't even receiving a first round grade. Secondly, with eroding OL and DL, no pash rush and a defense that ranked in the bottom 1/3 of the league last year in most statistical categories, it's almost a given they'll address team needs. Their offense was statistically the best in the league last year (http://www.footballo...m/stats/teamoff) and their running game was clearly in no way a weakness with their stable of backs providing a surprisingly effective though unspectacular effort, good for a statistical 2nd in the league (see above link.)
It is very possible the pats bring in a young back to develop in this years draft, but we won't see him until the later rounds. Keep your ears open about small school backs, or backs that had been highly regarded whose performance suffered because of injuries, bringing their draft status down. These typical patriots RB selections.
Also, with many good veteran RBs hitting the market through free agency, including Ronnie Brown, DeAngelo Williams, possibly Michael Bush... they may address their need with a proven veteran.
