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Unbelievable luck. I mean for like 10+ yrs the Colts were picking in what, the bottom 5-6 picks of the first rd every yr. The living legend qb gets hurt for the first time in his career, they suck, they get the closest prospect to him since he came out, he comes back the next yr somewhere else and is still awesome. The football Gods had a hand in this one.The Patriots make the playoffs every year.Subjective cutoffs are handy. If your cutoff was 8 years, you could say the same about the Patriots.I'm referring to the last 15 years,Their 5 SB trophies disagree.
Agreed, useless thread with nothing but silly biases... Ummm... the Steelers are reliable just like their fans? Who, around the country, thinks something like that????
Now not only are you using subjective cutoffs but subjective definitions of success. Basically your criteria is fine-tuned for the Cowboys while ignoring 2008 for the Patriots and 2006, 2007, and 2009 for the Cowboys.'FunkyTeaParty said:The Patriots make the playoffs every year.Subjective cutoffs are handy. If your cutoff was 8 years, you could say the same about the Patriots.I'm referring to the last 15 years,
Yes. Making the playoffs and having success in them is my subjective criteria for success. Do you have something else to judge success by? Appearances on national TV? Jerseys sold? Biggest TV? Few teams have been less "successful" than the Cowboys over the last 15 years yet they are treated, and act, like a perennial winner.Now not only are you using subjective cutoffs but subjective definitions of success. Basically your criteria is fine-tuned for the Cowboys while ignoring 2008 for the Patriots and 2006, 2007, and 2009 for the Cowboys.'FunkyTeaParty said:The Patriots make the playoffs every year.Subjective cutoffs are handy. If your cutoff was 8 years, you could say the same about the Patriots.I'm referring to the last 15 years,
Now you're justYes. Making the playoffs and having success in them is my subjective criteria for success. Do you have something else to judge success by? Appearances on national TV? Jerseys sold? Biggest TV? Few teams have been less "successful" than the Cowboys over the last 15 years yet they are treated, and act, like a perennial winner.Now not only are you using subjective cutoffs but subjective definitions of success. Basically your criteria is fine-tuned for the Cowboys while ignoring 2008 for the Patriots and 2006, 2007, and 2009 for the Cowboys.'FunkyTeaParty said:The Patriots make the playoffs every year.Subjective cutoffs are handy. If your cutoff was 8 years, you could say the same about the Patriots.I'm referring to the last 15 years,
Fixed the Raiders for you. Agree on highest penalized team rep (and deserved, though we finished this past season #6 in overall penalties/game). But the root cause is not Al's meddling, nor is it coaches who "can't keep the locker room under control"If you want to lay the blame for coaches not cementing player discipline during the game, agree 100%. But undisciplined does not equal mutinous or disruptive to operations, which is what I think of when that phrase is used.
Yes. Yes it does.
Like I said, nothing but silly biases.
More of a tank job than divine intervention.
This is a good (& fair) overview. I'd also acknowledge the Packers ability to draft very well. The Saints image might also be a little outdated.
Of course it does, it is after all , the capital of Canada.Peace
I think Green Bay is being sold short. Great History implies they haven't done much lately. They have been in contention for almost 20 straight years. Plus have more championships than any other team.
So you're saying it's almost like the Packers tradition and history was the first thing that popped into my head, rather than an objective view that takes all factors into account?
I thought I was making valid points but we can agree to disagree.Now you're justYes. Making the playoffs and having success in them is my subjective criteria for success. Do you have something else to judge success by? Appearances on national TV? Jerseys sold? Biggest TV? Few teams have been less "successful" than the Cowboys over the last 15 years yet they are treated, and act, like a perennial winner.Now not only are you using subjective cutoffs but subjective definitions of success. Basically your criteria is fine-tuned for the Cowboys while ignoring 2008 for the Patriots and 2006, 2007, and 2009 for the Cowboys.The Patriots make the playoffs every year.Subjective cutoffs are handy. If your cutoff was 8 years, you could say the same about the Patriots.I'm referring to the last 15 years,
