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[hotboyz]

Has anyone noticed what defenses has done to slow down these high powered offenses? Defenses have went back to playing Cover 2 man You saw it a lot in the green bay Chicago game and both QBs struggled you saw it in the Ravens Eagles game and in tonight's game

Teams without good TEs and slot WRs will struggle against this defense until they commit to running the ball again and becoming more balanced! Thats what makes the 49ers offense so good because you cannot sit back in that 2 man coverage because they are to balanced

My question how do we use this when evaluating our fantasy starting lineups?

 

[flc735]

no, the lockout had a ridiculously huge effect on the passing game.this is what we would have saw last year if there was no lockout.

My question how do we use this when evaluating our fantasy starting lineups?

not sure. this effect is across the board so it effects all of us. i'm guessing this deep wr group is not going to turn out so great.

 

[Chazzhawk]

The defense did adapt, they had a whole off season. I am surprised people are shocked by this

 

[silentcoach]

Yes, the defense has adapted by not having illegal contact or pass intereference called .

 

[12punch]

bump finley?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Isn't scoring up in the nfl? What exactly have the defenses done to adjust? Perhaps they should unadjust.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Hasn't Cover 2 Man and other variants (Tampa 2, Cover 2 Man 3-4, Cover 2 Zone) been a staple for a while? Not sure this is a recent trend that's just cropped up because of last year's passing stats.

Certainly teams will adjust in the off-season and include certain D packages against high powered throwing offenses. And no question D coordinators are always looking at the trends and tendencies and tweaking playbooks accordingly.

But the offense also adjusts. It can just as easily be argued that in response to a lot of Ds adopting cover 2 schemes after the success of the Bucs and Wade Phillips' Ds over the years that there was a corresponding rise in success of the speedy athletic TEs like Graham, Gronk, Hernandez, Vernon Davis et al who are able to exploit the holes in the middle of the field left by a Cover 2 D. And that this trend attributed to the high powered passing O's like we saw last season.

Either way, you hit upon exactly why I love football - the violent chess match of it all.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Considering what Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill did this weekend, I don't think NFL defenses look all that hot.

 

[hotboyz]

It's not really the Tampa 2 in talkin bout the cover 2 with press man underneath its really against those pass first teams you won't see it against tanneyhill cause he not a threat to torch u with the pass

 

[BobbyLayne]

The Replacements suck.

 

[jurb26]

Considering what Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill did this weekend, I don't think NFL defenses look all that hot.

What about what A. Rogers, M. Stafford, J. Cutler, P. Manning, M. Ryan and T. Romo did this weekend?

 

[hotboyz]

Considering what Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill did this weekend, I don't think NFL defenses look all that hot.

What about what A. Rogers, M. Stafford, J. Cutler, P. Manning, M. Ryan and T. Romo did this weekend?

Exactly all those teams can run but they wanna throw so defenses daring them to run that's why Mcgahee had such a big night last night

 

[CowboysHomer]

It's not the cover 2 press that has allowed them to adapt, though that has helped to some small extent. It's all about the replacement refs not calling much PI, defensive holding, illegal contact, etc.

 

[Warrior]

First, that defense is nothing new to Chicago. Secondly, the Ravens defense is what they've been for years...very stout. Thirdly, Arizona stopped New England and they have some very good TE and slot offenses.

I think you're taking what you saw in 1 game and extrapolating what you saw across the entire NFL without watching any other games, which is incorrect.

 

[yoadrian]

Cover 2, if done correctly, takes away the big play essentially, and you have to agree that you see less of that this year so far. To that end, it doesn't "shut down" WRs and TEs, underneath guys like Welker, Amendola and I think most Tight Ends will have a some big games this year.

 

[cstu]

Completion percentage seems way up this year.

13 QB's have a completion percentage over 65% compared to just 4 last year.

 

[cheese]

I think there is a TON of Cover 2 played across the league, just like in years past.

Being able to mug every WR is new though.

 

[Sinn Fein]

2012

Yards Per game: 346.8

Passing Yds/game: 238

Rushing Yds/Game: 108.8

Scoring/game: 24.3

2011

Yards per game: 346.8

Passing Yds/game: 229.7

Rushing Yds/game: 117.1

Scoring/game: 22.2

How exactly have defenses gotten better?

 

[hotboyz]

First, that defense is nothing new to Chicago. Secondly, the Ravens defense is what they've been for years...very stout. Thirdly, Arizona stopped New England and they have some very good TE and slot offenses.I think you're taking what you saw in 1 game and extrapolating what you saw across the entire NFL without watching any other games, which is incorrect.

Not at all I Watch pretty much all the games it really noticeable against the pass volume teams. It's hard to run that against say a cam newton or RGlll because it gives QB a chance to run

 

[hotboyz]

Cover 2, if done correctly, takes away the big play essentially, and you have to agree that you see less of that this year so far. To that end, it doesn't "shut down" WRs and TEs, underneath guys like Welker, Amendola and I think most Tight Ends will have a some big games this year.

Exactly if you don't have good Te or that slot guy it can completely boggle down your passing game. I wonder if yards per attmpt is down this yr??

 

[Dr. Octopus]

TB (considered to be the founder of the cover 2) gave up over 500 yards passing this weekend. Go figure.

 

[yoadrian]

TB (considered to be the founder of the cover 2) gave up over 500 yards passing this weekend. Go figure.

Didn't watch that game, but it looked like things really opened up in the 4th quarter and they gave up a ton of big plays.. Manning must have found some holes or some good blocking downfield

 

[cstu]

TB (considered to be the founder of the cover 2) gave up over 500 yards passing this weekend. Go figure.

Didn't watch that game, but it looked like things really opened up in the 4th quarter and they gave up a ton of big plays.. Manning must have found some holes or some good blocking downfield

They shut him down until he went nuts (230 yards and 2 TD's) in the final 8 minutes of the game. 230 yards and 2 TD's

 

[Chase Stuart]

Considering what Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill did this weekend, I don't think NFL defenses look all that hot.

What about what A. Rogers, M. Stafford, J. Cutler, P. Manning, M. Ryan and T. Romo did this weekend?

Exactly all those teams can run but they wanna throw so defenses daring them to run that's why Mcgahee had such a big night last night

NFL teams are completing 62.6% of their passes, averaging 238 passing yards per game, and averaging 6.5 NY/A and 6.1 ANY/A. All of those numbers are the highest in NFL history.

 

[Chase Stuart]

First, that defense is nothing new to Chicago. Secondly, the Ravens defense is what they've been for years...very stout. Thirdly, Arizona stopped New England and they have some very good TE and slot offenses.I think you're taking what you saw in 1 game and extrapolating what you saw across the entire NFL without watching any other games, which is incorrect.

Not at all I Watch pretty much all the games it really noticeable against the pass volume teams. It's hard to run that against say a cam newton or RGlll because it gives QB a chance to run

No doubt Rodgers and Brady and Brees are struggling, but RG3, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, and Eli Manning are playing very well. Heck, Vick and Carson Palmer each have nearly 700 passing yards.

 

[the UFFRM]

I think there is a TON of Cover 2 played across the league, just like in years past.Being able to mug every WR is new though.

Not that new, they never should have put those rules in. I understand pass interference but illegal contact is silly. The line between incidental and illegal is too narrow and the emphasis of enforcement was originally a complete over-reaction to the Pats disruption of the pretty-finesse Colts pass offense in the AFCCG years back. It's a joke.

 

[Reepicheep]

2012

Yards Per game: 346.8

Passing Yds/game: 238

Rushing Yds/Game: 108.8

Scoring/game: 24.3

2011

Yards per game: 346.8

Passing Yds/game: 229.7

Rushing Yds/game: 117.1

Scoring/game: 22.2

How exactly have defenses gotten better?

Any metal midget can see you're manipulating the stats to fit your argument.