northern exposure
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The Oilers D depth chart is still so bad they have to give Schultz $3.9 mill.
The rumor was he was going to sign a short term deal for $4 mill per. So, on the bright side they are only tied to him for one season.
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NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (2 Viewers)
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The rumor was he was going to sign a short term deal for $4 mill per. So, on the bright side they are only tied to him for one season.
Zegras11
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Statcruncher
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chet
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Northern Voice
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Capella
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LINK1. Not checking the math
Something that's been bugging me for a while now is the Bruins — and their sycophantic media — insisting that what Don Sweeney has done to this point in the summer has been beneficial or at least not-harmful to this team's chances of making the playoffs again next season.
Nowhere has this been exemplified more than what Sweeney himself said yesterday on Boston radio:
This morning on the radio Don Sweeney said it's as simple as Hamilton+Lucic+Smith = 41 goals, Beleskey+Hayes = 41 goals.— Bruins Stats (@bruins_stats) July 14, 2015
This is a silly and undeveloped argument to say the very least.
Yes it's true, Matt Beleskey and Jimmy Hayes combined for 41 goals last year, and that is coincidentally the same number of goals scored by Milan Lucic, Reilly Smith, and Dougie Hamilton. And hey, there's cap savings for the Bruins too (because paying two players costs less than paying three!), so, “Advantage Sweeney!”
But not so fast here, gang. Because let's look at the basic facts. Lucic had a down year, Smith had a down year, and Hamilton is a defenseman on whom you shouldn't be depending for goals. Meanwhile, Beleskey doubled his all-time best goal total (and still only had 22), and Hayes scored 19, which was eight better than his previous best.
That's not to say that both players aren't good and wouldn't be able to contribute playing alongside David Krejci and Patrice Bergeron, of course, but to expect them to keep putting up these comparatively “big-time” numbers — which by the way are still somewhat modest for two guys you're hoping become viable top-six contributors for years to come at 26 and 27 years old — is a lot like wishful thinking.
Here are all these players' goals per 60 by their age at the start of the season.
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Photo via Ryan Lambert
Now, you can clearly say that Hayes is a reasonable replacement for Smith, and no one would argue that he can be expected to put up similar numbers in the near-term, except that he's older, which is a point of concern.
And clearly, Beleskey is on an upswing, mostly driven by a huge personal shooting percentage this season (14.3 percent at 5-on-5) and playing with Ryan Kesler. And the fact that he had to go on a huge upswing in three partial seasons — oh yeah, Beleskey's all-time record for games played is 69, four seasons ago — just to get to Lucic's levels is something that should be quite worrisome.
“We signed a 22-goal-scorer,” is all well and good, but hey, uh, how about the fact that he averaged 7.88 goals per 82 games over the first 263 games? And you gave him five years based on the 22 goals and not the way-less-than-that from before?
Again, I have little doubt that Beleskey and Hayes will still put up the numbers people roughly expect next season given the quality of forwards they will play with. But what does Beleskey look like, say, three years from now? And what's a more likely outcome? The 1.34 ES goals per 60 he posted in 65 games last season, or the .68 in the five partial seasons prior to?
Better question: How soon does this end up feeling to Bruins fans like the Chris Kelly contract? The money's not a killer, but boy it's not great either, and the term is baffling.
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Foosball God
Foos
3. Ads in the local paper
Shout out to Patrick Sharp and Milan Lucic. They know the score.
If you've ever in your life wanted everyone to talk about what a great guy you are, all you have to do is take an ad out in the paper after you've lived there for a sufficiently long amount of time and say, "I liked it here but now I'm leaving."
Then all you have to do is sit back and wait for the tsunami of praise to come a-rollin' in. Lucic, whose cap hit is $6 million, only needed to take out a quarter-page ad deep in the Boston Globe last week, and people spent a lot of time saying how "classy" he is. Milan Lucic! Ball-spearin', "I'm gonna [expletive]ing kill you"-threatenin', "Do you know who I am?"-sayin' Milan Lucic!
What a move.
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Statcruncher
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Lumping Sharp in with Lucic is pretty weak.
both did the same thing and both got heaped with praise as a result. how is it weak?Statcruncher said:
fightingillini
Footballguy
too bad the NHL doesn't have the NBA rule where they can "amnesty" one bad contract, get them off the cap, but still pay them. The Hawks would have instantly amestied Bickell.....would allowed the Hawks to resign Oduya and Kruger.
What a bust he is. At least Crawford delivered for the Hawks, even though you would like to have your goalie count less towards the cap.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
Because Sharp really is a classy guy who was well liked, simply a salary cap victim. Lucic on the other hand, is and has always been a little #####.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Teams had the ability to use two compliance buyouts through last summer. It's how Chicago ended up with Richards for $2MM...he will earn $20MM from the Rangers over (now 11) years in salary and deferred bonuses.
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Statcruncher
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It's pretty telling that your link is a sports talk show listing rumors from sources that wish to remain anonymous. If it comes out that it's true, then obviously my opinion of him will change. Even then though, Sharp plays the game on the ice the right way, unlike Lucic.
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IC FBGCav
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Flyers re-sign DelZotto to 2/7.75.
Yay.
Yay.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/why-ryan-kesler-s-new-ducks-contract-is-indefensible--trending-topics-154639764.html
Ryan Lambert at Puck Daddy rips the new Kesler deal
Ryan Lambert at Puck Daddy rips the new Kesler deal
Billy Bats
Footballguy
The great NHL expansion bid heist of 2015 sounded like it didn't get as many bidders as they hoped.
Las Vegas and Quebec were the only two applicants that paid and filed for an expansion team. Considering those two were locks to get a team anyway, the process seemed like a waste of time.
Las Vegas and Quebec were the only two applicants that paid and filed for an expansion team. Considering those two were locks to get a team anyway, the process seemed like a waste of time.
Raider Nation
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I am completely shuked over their choices of "Vintage Games" on NHLN. Last week it was a seemingly meaningless Ottawa/Buffalo game from a few years ago. Right now, they are showing a preseason game from 9/27/91... NYR @ Kings.
Rangers Kings game was outdoors in Vegas.I am completely shuked over their choices of "Vintage Games" on NHLN. Last week it was a seemingly meaningless Ottawa/Buffalo game from a few years ago. Right now, they are showing a preseason game from 9/27/91... NYR @ Kings.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_outdoor_NHL_game_in_Las_Vegas
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Ahhh, I thought it looked a little dark.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Devils announce Lamoriello steps down as president and two minutes later announced as Leafs GM.
Foosball God
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Las Vegas could be ready to go by the 2016/2017 season, could Quebec as well? At what point would they hold the expansion draft?
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Things are looking up in Toronto. 
Wow. Didn't ever see that coming.
Bill Brasky
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Billy Bats
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Expansion draft would probably be held late June after the draft if they're joining for 16/17. Quebec has a stadium ready, don't see why they wouldn't be good to go. But don't forget about Seattle just yet, despite Gary saying they won't accept any more applications, they setup a meeting with the Seattle group next week assuming they'll still try and get a team there soon.
Foosball God
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I think they would want an additional beyond Seattle as well. It would be difficult to deal with an odd number of teams.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
They want two West teams - Bettman will screw over Quebec even though they actually submitted a bid and find away to get to LV and Seattle.
they wanted to gauge interest. I think they are realizing there isn't as much as they thought.
Seattle's issue is they have no stadium ready and no plans far enough along to feel comfortable with.
of course it would be 2 teams.
for geography purposes and based on where the CAN $ has been headed, they will probably push for stupid Las Vegas over Quebec and will hope to get into Seattle.
they still have like 6 other guys who are pseudo-GMs there. Not like he'll be running the show alone as he did in New Jersey.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Leafs front office is crazy. Shanahan, Lamoriello, Babcock, Hunter, Dubas.
RUSF18
Footballguy
Yeah, that's why I'd be worried. What the hell is happening there that they felt they needed to bring him in of all people?
he's a smart dude and pretty well respected around the league. I don't think it will hurt at all to add him to the mix.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Experience. They have an analytics guy in Dubas. They have a player development guy in Hunter. They have the executive in Shanahan, they have the coach input in Babcock. Now they have a guy with years of success and cup wins to put it all together.
They're a ####show on the ice but can't argue a lot with what they've built here. Any of those 5 guys could work for all 30 teams tomorrow if they wanted, this is where Leafs can flex their financial muscles.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
This will make the Leafs sucking even more entertaining to watch. 
Statcruncher
Footballguy
Wish they could have the expansion draft now, would be the ideal way to unload Bickell and Versteeg.
