Nick Adenhart Dies (1 Viewer)

[Bojang0301]

Incredibly sad. Before my keeper league disbanded last year Adenhart had been chilling in my minor's the past couple years. It's corny but I become a fan of those who I keep stashed on my team and I was a big one of his. This is truely an epic tragedy to a young talent who was going to have a bright career in the game.

 

[Michael Brown]

It's got to be brutal being Brian Fuentes right now. Obviously you don't know the timing of events or how everything is going to go down, but if he doesn't blow the save in the 9th, the Angels don't have to bat in the bottom of the 9th, everyone gets out of the stadium a few minutes earlier, maybe this driver blows through the red light and hits nothing.I realize this is not the way people SHOULD think after something like this -- just that that's how I would be, no doubt.

Eh, you can think that way of just about every little thing in life. You can't beat yourself up for stuff like that. No one is to blame except the idiot drunk driver.

Oh I completely agree. It's like the Benjamin Button scene where if this didn't happen and this didn't happen, then this wouldn't have happened, and so on.But I just think it'll be worse on BF because he was the one guy who could have controlled the outcome almost singlehandedly. You take an extra pitch here or there, maybe it shortens the game and maybe it doesn't. But if he gets things done in a 1-2-3 fashion in the 9th, it shortens the game by 10-15 minutes at least. I'm not saying I blame him obviously...I'm saying if I were him I would probably be laying unfair blame at my own feet for it. I think that's only natural in this situation.Clearly, 100% of the fault lies with the drunk driver and Fuentes has ZERO to do with what happened. But it's very normal for people to feel guilt over something like that. "If only I had done my job, he'd be alive"...even though one had nothing to do with the other, I can see why someone would do that. And I imagine that weighing on a person, especially so soon after.

You my friend are a moron...there are plenty of people who could of "single handedly" controled it. I often wonder how people like you make it through every day life. Do you wear a helmet?

Thanks for pretending to know anything about me based on one conversation I related from co-workers. I also enjoy the ironic use of "could of" in the same sentence where you call ME a moron.I've already stated twice so far that I don't personally blame Fuentes, just that I would understand it if he felt extra guilt over say, Chone Figgins. Is that so difficult to understand? People go through life all the time and have indirect influences over what happens to another person and they misplace the guilt onto themselves. Have you never heard a person say, "I should have done something" after someone kills themselves or ODs or something.Again, just so nobody accuses me from this point forward...I DO NOT PERSONALLY BLAME BRIAN FUENTES. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT BRIAN FUENTES MIGHT BE BLAMING BRIAN FUENTES AND THAT I'D UNDERSTAND IT IF HE DID SINCE IT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. HE IS PROBABLY FEELING BADLY TODAY BUT HE SHOULDN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT HIS FAULT AT ALL!!!By the way, calling people morons doesn't really fly around here.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

I don't think MB is a moron. I just think it's a dumb point he was trying to make.

Either way, it doesn't really matter.

 

[Moe Green]

The guy had a previous DUI in 2006. According to ESPN he could be charged with murder.

Unbelievable if true. That guy should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law and if found guilty, spend the rest of his life in jail, if not worse.

 

[PewterFan]

You my friend are a moron...there are plenty of people who could of "single handedly" controled it. I often wonder how people like you make it through every day life. Do you wear a helmet?

Act your age.

 

[uncle Klompits]

Hopefully his friends and family take some small consolation in knowing the kid had to be on top of the world last night after that outing. If I ever lost a child I think knowing that he or she was coming off one of the greatest nights of his/her life would in a tiny way ease the indescribable pain I would feel. He must've been so happy last night before the tragedy. T&P to his friends and family.

 

[Michael Brown]

Hopefully his friends and family take some small consolation in knowing the kid had to be on top of the world last night after that outing. If I ever lost a child I think knowing that he or she was coming off one of the greatest nights of his/her life would in a tiny way ease the indescribable pain I would feel. He must've been so happy last night before the tragedy. T&P to his friends and family.

Yeah Boras mentioned that Adenhart was elated after the game, because despite the loss he "felt like a major leaguer".Too sad.

 

[Big 'N Tasty]

It's got to be brutal being Brian Fuentes right now. Obviously you don't know the timing of events or how everything is going to go down, but if he doesn't blow the save in the 9th, the Angels don't have to bat in the bottom of the 9th, everyone gets out of the stadium a few minutes earlier, maybe this driver blows through the red light and hits nothing.I realize this is not the way people SHOULD think after something like this -- just that that's how I would be, no doubt.

Eh, you can think that way of just about every little thing in life. You can't beat yourself up for stuff like that. No one is to blame except the idiot drunk driver.

Oh I completely agree. It's like the Benjamin Button scene where if this didn't happen and this didn't happen, then this wouldn't have happened, and so on.But I just think it'll be worse on BF because he was the one guy who could have controlled the outcome almost singlehandedly. You take an extra pitch here or there, maybe it shortens the game and maybe it doesn't. But if he gets things done in a 1-2-3 fashion in the 9th, it shortens the game by 10-15 minutes at least. I'm not saying I blame him obviously...I'm saying if I were him I would probably be laying unfair blame at my own feet for it. I think that's only natural in this situation.Clearly, 100% of the fault lies with the drunk driver and Fuentes has ZERO to do with what happened. But it's very normal for people to feel guilt over something like that. "If only I had done my job, he'd be alive"...even though one had nothing to do with the other, I can see why someone would do that. And I imagine that weighing on a person, especially so soon after.

You my friend are a moron...there are plenty of people who could of "single handedly" controled it. I often wonder how people like you make it through every day life. Do you wear a helmet?

Thanks for pretending to know anything about me based on one conversation I related from co-workers. I also enjoy the ironic use of "could of" in the same sentence where you call ME a moron.I've already stated twice so far that I don't personally blame Fuentes, just that I would understand it if he felt extra guilt over say, Chone Figgins. Is that so difficult to understand? People go through life all the time and have indirect influences over what happens to another person and they misplace the guilt onto themselves. Have you never heard a person say, "I should have done something" after someone kills themselves or ODs or something.Again, just so nobody accuses me from this point forward...I DO NOT PERSONALLY BLAME BRIAN FUENTES. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT BRIAN FUENTES MIGHT BE BLAMING BRIAN FUENTES AND THAT I'D UNDERSTAND IT IF HE DID SINCE IT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. HE IS PROBABLY FEELING BADLY TODAY BUT HE SHOULDN'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT HIS FAULT AT ALL!!!By the way, calling people morons doesn't really fly around here.

Couldn't Chone Figgins have hit a homer sometime in the game that would have made Fuentes' mistakes negligible?C'mon...this is a sad tragedy. Let's not muddy it up with crazy talk.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

Well, cold comfort but I see the drunk driver's charge was upgraded to murder.

I heard the tribute on XM radio tonight, but didn't see it, anyone catch it? It sounded rather short, players lined up for a moment of silence, Torii Hunter and Lackey held his Jersey on the mound.

Picked up the visual on TV, there is a 34 on the mound for him.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

 

[John Zaleski]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

No, I saw them sharing a great moment celebrated in a traditional way with a teammate who is no longer with them. As an Angel fan for 45 years, all I could think about was how proud I was to be a fan of them. Especially when they went to the CF wall and took a team picture with him.These guys spend every day except the AS break with each other from Feb-Oct each year. To lose a popular teammate the way they did had to be very tough on all involved and they've handled all of this as well as can be expected IMO.

 

[Oh Yes!]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

No, I saw them sharing a great moment celebrated in a traditional way with a teammate who is no longer with them. As an Angel fan for 45 years, all I could think about was how proud I was to be a fan of them. Especially when they went to the CF wall and took a team picture with him.These guys spend every day except the AS break with each other from Feb-Oct each year. To lose a popular teammate the way they did had to be very tough on all involved and they've handled all of this as well as can be expected IMO.

soaking it in alcohol wasnt the right way to pay respect to the man. especially one who died from a drunk driver

 

[John Zaleski]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

No, I saw them sharing a great moment celebrated in a traditional way with a teammate who is no longer with them. As an Angel fan for 45 years, all I could think about was how proud I was to be a fan of them. Especially when they went to the CF wall and took a team picture with him.These guys spend every day except the AS break with each other from Feb-Oct each year. To lose a popular teammate the way they did had to be very tough on all involved and they've handled all of this as well as can be expected IMO.

soaking it in alcohol wasnt the right way to pay respect to the man. especially one who died from a drunk driver

It was for his teammates. They treated him as if he was still part of them, which he is.Of course, many people don't follow the Angels day-to-day. I do. The entire organization paid tremendous respect each and every day of the season to ALL of the victims.

What you saw was an emotional outburst by a closely nit group of guys that deeply miss him and felt he should be a part of that celebration in the same traditional way it's always been done.

"Nick Adenhart should be here celebrating with us, but the Good Lord took him ... Now, we're just celebrating in his name. He's a very important part of the team. We're playing hard for him. Trust me, he's here in spirit and love. We're going to try to bring his ring back home for him and give it to his parents."

– Torii Hunter

SOURCE: BASEBALL PROSPECTUS

"You have to understand these players and the tribute it really means to pour champagne on them," Scioscia said. "It's not the alcohol. It's like a whipped cream pie in the face.

"The whole thing with Nick was an extraordinary time for all of us. It was very sincere and special, and it was meaningful to the clubhouse.

"Last night was helpful maybe to a lot of players, being able to be at peace with it in honoring Nick in a special way. It will be a part of everybody here who experienced it."

Scioscia said pitching coach Mike Butcher was in contact with Adenhart's father, Jim, after the title clinching and was told the celebration was "very touching."

Jim Adenhart understood the true meaning here, and not the spin put on it to sell rags or clicks.

 

[crewmember]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

No, I saw them sharing a great moment celebrated in a traditional way with a teammate who is no longer with them. As an Angel fan for 45 years, all I could think about was how proud I was to be a fan of them. Especially when they went to the CF wall and took a team picture with him.These guys spend every day except the AS break with each other from Feb-Oct each year. To lose a popular teammate the way they did had to be very tough on all involved and they've handled all of this as well as can be expected IMO.

soaking it in alcohol wasnt the right way to pay respect to the man. especially one who died from a drunk driver

Know what you mean, but Nick didn't do anything wrong and he didn't have a problem with alcohol. So there is nothing to be ashamed about, altering the celebration would make it weirder I think.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

No, I saw them sharing a great moment celebrated in a traditional way with a teammate who is no longer with them. As an Angel fan for 45 years, all I could think about was how proud I was to be a fan of them. Especially when they went to the CF wall and took a team picture with him.These guys spend every day except the AS break with each other from Feb-Oct each year. To lose a popular teammate the way they did had to be very tough on all involved and they've handled all of this as well as can be expected IMO.

soaking it in alcohol wasnt the right way to pay respect to the man. especially one who died from a drunk driver

Know what you mean, but Nick didn't do anything wrong and he didn't have a problem with alcohol. So there is nothing to be ashamed about, altering the celebration would make it weirder I think.

That's a good point. I'll be cheering for them.

 

[Da Guru]

I don't want to seem callous, but did anyone see the cruel irony (I suppose) of soaking the Adenhart jersey with beer in the Angels playoff clinching celebration?

No, I saw them sharing a great moment celebrated in a traditional way with a teammate who is no longer with them. As an Angel fan for 45 years, all I could think about was how proud I was to be a fan of them. Especially when they went to the CF wall and took a team picture with him.These guys spend every day except the AS break with each other from Feb-Oct each year. To lose a popular teammate the way they did had to be very tough on all involved and they've handled all of this as well as can be expected IMO.

soaking it in alcohol wasnt the right way to pay respect to the man. especially one who died from a drunk driver

Give me a break. They were honoring him...why read more into it??

 

[Please See Mine]

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...e=ESPNHeadlines

Driver who killed Adenhart convicted of murder.