Nicks out a few weeks (1 Viewer)

[footballnerd]

Just to keep the situation nice and murky, this was posted on Fanball earlier today:

12/9/2010 10:55 AM

THE NEWS

Adam Kaplan of FOX Sports ruled Hakeem Nicks (leg) out for Week 14.

OUR VIEW

We will wait for an official ruling from the Giants, but all signs point to Nicks needing one more week to recover. Fantasy owners who were hoping to have the the stud wideout in a crucial Week 14 will be forced to go with another option.

why is kaplan doing this? His thoughts aren't in line with anything that is happening on the practice field. Strange, I didn't know some random fox reporter could declare a player Out.

seriously.....Who is you, Kaplan?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

December 9, 2010Despite an earlier prediction by Adam Kaplan of FOX Sports that Hakeem Nicks will not play this week, Mike Garafolo of the Star-Ledger reports that both Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are practicing for the Giants today.

C-C-C-Catfight!

 

[SouthJersey]

Just to keep the situation nice and murky, this was posted on Fanball earlier today:

12/9/2010 10:55 AM

THE NEWS

Adam Kaplan of FOX Sports ruled Hakeem Nicks (leg) out for Week 14.

OUR VIEW

We will wait for an official ruling from the Giants, but all signs point to Nicks needing one more week to recover. Fantasy owners who were hoping to have the the stud wideout in a crucial Week 14 will be forced to go with another option.

why is kaplan doing this? His thoughts aren't in line with anything that is happening on the practice field. Strange, I didn't know some random fox reporter could declare a player Out.

seriously.....Who is you, Kaplan?

Caplan posted on twitter that when he said "Nicks is out" it was before yesterday's practice report and he was just going off of the information he had up to that point. Seems he's backed off that stance since.

Update from today's practice:

MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo

Still looking good on the injury front for WRs Hakeem Nicks and Steve Smith. Both practicing again today. #nyg

57 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

 

[SouthJersey]

MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo

Smith + Nicks both limited but "on track" to play, Coughlin said. Doc gave Nicks clearance apparently. #nyg

3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

 

[Texican]

Hakeem Nicks, WR, New York Giants Thursday 12/9, 12:31 PM CT

Both Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are "on track" to play this week, according to Adam Kaplan of FOXSports.com.

Our View: So much for Kaplan's prediction that Nicks would definitely not play against the Vikings, but we're glad to hear he was wrong. We will see how Nicks is listed on Friday's injury report and update you on his status leading up to kickoff.

 

[FFdork]

Nicks says he's running full speed with no pain, so it sounds good. The news feed says he'll meet with doctors this evening, so I assume if that goes well it's a green light.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

 

[Deaddawg]

WoW, I can sit Stevie Johnson than!!!

 

[CrossEyed]

Hakeem Nicks, WR, New York Giants Thursday 12/9, 12:31 PM CT Both Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are "on track" to play this week, according to Adam Kaplan of FOXSports.com. Our View: So much for Kaplan's prediction that Nicks would definitely not play against the Vikings, but we're glad to hear he was wrong. We will see how Nicks is listed on Friday's injury report and update you on his status leading up to kickoff.

Thanks Adam, you've been a big help this week.

 

[road warrior]

Garafolo just tweeted that Nicks said doc took half his stitches out. Confirms he's 'on track'. Says he won't get final green light til Saturday.

 

[MIMN]

Holy cow. I smell a WDIS in my future. It will be hard to not start Nicks if he is playing.

 

[Sup_Yo]

@HNicks88 Looks like i'll be gearing up and ready to go against Minnesota. #GMEN

Tweet sent about 5 minutes ago!

 

[CrossEyed]

@HNicks88 Looks like i'll be gearing up and ready to go against Minnesota. #GMENTweet sent about 5 minutes ago!

 

[Breesisdaman]

Holy cow. I smell a WDIS in my future. It will be hard to not start Nicks if he is playing.

Already got my question up in the appropriate forum

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are both practicing again on Friday.Both starters have avoided setbacks this week. Nicks won't gain official clearance until Saturday, but he remains on track for a return at Minnesota. Smith is a near lock to play, though his snaps are expected to be limited.Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

I guess I will check for the official doctor's clearance report on Saturday, but at this point is anyone playing in Week 14 not starting Nicks with confidence?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are both practicing again on Friday.Both starters have avoided setbacks this week. Nicks won't gain official clearance until Saturday, but he remains on track for a return at Minnesota. Smith is a near lock to play, though his snaps are expected to be limited.Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

I guess I will check for the official doctor's clearance report on Saturday, but at this point is anyone playing in Week 14 not starting Nicks with confidence?

If he's cleared, I have 1000% pure confidence. He's not impaired or hurting. He's got some stitches to deal with. In my mind, he's the healthy one and Steve Smith is the one that's still hobbled. Starting Nicks in both leagues barring some setback. He's been a stud all year. I don't see that changing now.

 

[kyoun1e]

Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are both practicing again on Friday.Both starters have avoided setbacks this week. Nicks won't gain official clearance until Saturday, but he remains on track for a return at Minnesota. Smith is a near lock to play, though his snaps are expected to be limited.Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

I guess I will check for the official doctor's clearance report on Saturday, but at this point is anyone playing in Week 14 not starting Nicks with confidence?

I'm very leary of starting Nicks. He's been out a couple weeks. He still isn't cleared. He probably will have conditioning issues and be on a snap count. We've seen a couple of other WRs return lately from injury (i.e. Vincent Jackson, K. Britt) with not so impressive results.I think we're dreaming if we think he's going to step in and give us 8-110-2. In fact, I think there is great risk that his floor is much lower than we think.The most logical scenario to me sees Nicks being worked back in slowly.In the first round of the playoffs, I'm feeling a little more comfortable starting either A. Bradshaw or L. Blount. There's just too much risk of a goose egg here.KY

 

[kyoun1e]

Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are both practicing again on Friday.Both starters have avoided setbacks this week. Nicks won't gain official clearance until Saturday, but he remains on track for a return at Minnesota. Smith is a near lock to play, though his snaps are expected to be limited.Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

I guess I will check for the official doctor's clearance report on Saturday, but at this point is anyone playing in Week 14 not starting Nicks with confidence?

I'm very leary of starting Nicks. He's been out a couple weeks. He still isn't cleared. He probably will have conditioning issues and be on a snap count. We've seen a couple of other WRs return lately from injury (i.e. Vincent Jackson, K. Britt) with not so impressive results.I think we're dreaming if we think he's going to step in and give us 8-110-2. In fact, I think there is great risk that his floor is much lower than we think.The most logical scenario to me sees Nicks being worked back in slowly.In the first round of the playoffs, I'm feeling a little more comfortable starting either A. Bradshaw or L. Blount. There's just too much risk of a goose egg here.KY

And Nicks is listed as questionable as well.KY

 

[FFdork]

Clayton (so take it with a grain of salt) said on his Sportcenter injury wrap up that Nicks had a chance to play but "maybe not in a starting roll, perhaps treating it like a preseason game." That's not word for word but it's close enough.

 

[Payne]

Hakeem Nicks (leg) and Steve Smith (pectoral) are both practicing again on Friday.Both starters have avoided setbacks this week. Nicks won't gain official clearance until Saturday, but he remains on track for a return at Minnesota. Smith is a near lock to play, though his snaps are expected to be limited.Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

I guess I will check for the official doctor's clearance report on Saturday, but at this point is anyone playing in Week 14 not starting Nicks with confidence?

I'm very leary of starting Nicks. He's been out a couple weeks. He still isn't cleared. He probably will have conditioning issues and be on a snap count. We've seen a couple of other WRs return lately from injury (i.e. Vincent Jackson, K. Britt) with not so impressive results.I think we're dreaming if we think he's going to step in and give us 8-110-2. In fact, I think there is great risk that his floor is much lower than we think.The most logical scenario to me sees Nicks being worked back in slowly.In the first round of the playoffs, I'm feeling a little more comfortable starting either A. Bradshaw or L. Blount. There's just too much risk of a goose egg here.KY

And Nicks is listed as questionable as well.KY

Well sure. If I had Bradshaw or Blount, I'd probably bench Nicks too. Unfortunately we don't all have that option. And while I agree with what you are saying, he has only been out two weeks. Sure he's in pretty good shape. And there is no "injury" here like there is with Smith. I'm rolling with him. Do or die and you have to go with your studs. I'd rather lose with him in my lineup than watch him blow up on my bench.

 

[Skipper]

Well sure. If I had Bradshaw or Blount, I'd probably bench Nicks too. Unfortunately we don't all have that option. And while I agree with what you are saying, he has only been out two weeks. Sure he's in pretty good shape. And there is no "injury" here like there is with Smith. I'm rolling with him. Do or die and you have to go with your studs. I'd rather lose with him in my lineup than watch him blow up on my bench.

Good point. Especially for a team like mine that's rolling into the playoffs with three WW pickups (Crabtree, Starks, Dickson, meh) from this week due to injuries. It really depends whether you're looking for a high ceiling (Nicks) or a high floor (someone else). Nicks may well put up a bagel, but I'd rather roll with him than without him at this point. Now I'm off to go drink to his health.

 

[ceo3west]

I can't remember the exact scenario, but earlier this year Nicks was hurt and didn't practice all week, was a GTD, guys sat him and he went off for 2 TD's. I'm not benching a top 5 WR if he's active.

 

[CrossEyed]

Clayton (so take it with a grain of salt) said on his Sportcenter injury wrap up that Nicks had a chance to play but "maybe not in a starting roll, perhaps treating it like a preseason game." That's not word for word but it's close enough.

Kaplan earlier in the week "declared him out", so we all know how much reporters know.

 

[footballnerd]

I can't remember the exact scenario, but earlier this year Nicks was hurt and didn't practice all week, was a GTD, guys sat him and he went off for 2 TD's. I'm not benching a top 5 WR if he's active.

It was the DAL game and he said he was going to play but people weren't sure if they should believe him.

October 22, 2010Updating an earlier report, Hakeem Nicks is dealing with a strained hamstring, according to the Newark Star-Ledger's Mike Garafolur View:Nicks rode a stationary bike at practice on Friday. The Giants are hopeful that he'll be active on Monday night, but nothing is certain. If you own Nicks, it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up Mario Manningham or Dez Bryant if they're available, just in case Nicks sits and you're forced to use another receiver in the Giants-Cowboys matchup.

October 22, 2010Updating an earlier report, Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) said that he'll definitely play on Monday night, according to the New York Daily News' Ralph Vacchiano.

October 25, 2010Hakeem Nicks (hamstring) is planning to play on Monday night against the Cowboys, according to the New York Daily News' Ralph Vacchianur View:He's been expected to play all along, but will likely be far from 100 percent. New York will be facing a Cowboys pass defense that ranks fourth in the league.

October 25, 2010Looking completely unencumbered by his ailing hamstring, Hakeem Nicks had another huge game on Monday, posting nine catches for 108 yards and two touchdowns in New York's 41-35 win over the Cowboys.Our View:You could say he and Eli Manning are developing a nice rapport. He now has five touchdowns in his past three games, and eight on the season.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I can't remember the exact scenario, but earlier this year Nicks was hurt and didn't practice all week, was a GTD, guys sat him and he went off for 2 TD's. I'm not benching a top 5 WR if he's active.

ThisSeriously bench him at your own risk.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Clayton (so take it with a grain of salt) said on his Sportcenter injury wrap up that Nicks had a chance to play but "maybe not in a starting roll, perhaps treating it like a preseason game." That's not word for word but it's close enough.

This makes me a little leery as well, but at this point, if he starts, he's on the field for my team -- the potential that he contributes even if he's not in for every series has more upside than other options (S. Moss, D. Mason, etc.).

 

[otb_lifer]

I can't remember the exact scenario, but earlier this year Nicks was hurt and didn't practice all week, was a GTD, guys sat him and he went off for 2 TD's. I'm not benching a top 5 WR if he's active.

ThisSeriously bench him at your own risk.

Flip side of this ... was also GTD vs. Indy ... caught one ball for about 10 yds., before a VERY late gahhr-bage time TD bailed his night out. The TD was much welcomed, but he was extremely limited up until that point.

 

[skillz]

I can't remember the exact scenario, but earlier this year Nicks was hurt and didn't practice all week, was a GTD, guys sat him and he went off for 2 TD's. I'm not benching a top 5 WR if he's active.

ThisSeriously bench him at your own risk.

Flip side of this ... was also GTD vs. Indy ... caught one ball for about 10 yds., before a VERY late gahhr-bage time TD bailed his night out. The TD was much welcomed, but he was extremely limited up until that point.

So then what you're saying is that in the two games he was iffy about playing in a game he scored at least a TD in each. Sounds good to me. I'm playing him if he's active on Sunday.

 

[Irish Chaos]

So then what you're saying is that in the two games he was iffy about playing in a game he scored at least a TD in each. Sounds good to me. I'm playing him if he's active on Sunday.

Think you missed the point there...

 

[thehornet]

So then what you're saying is that in the two games he was iffy about playing in a game he scored at least a TD in each. Sounds good to me. I'm playing him if he's active on Sunday.

Think you missed the point there...

nah i think you did. point is, he can go off for a td anytime even when limited, which is more than most options.

 

[kyoun1e]

Another thing to consider...

What are the odds that Manning, Nicks, and Smith are going to be in sync?

Both of those WRs have been out. And who knows what the rotation will be. I think they're going to need a game to adjust.

And yet another thing to consider...

MN looks seriously weak on offense if they are potentially minus Harvin and Favre. Coughlin may play it conservative. Eli may not need to throw a ton.

To me, the risk / reward ratio leans toward risk.

KY

 

[omally]

MN looks seriously weak on offense if they are potentially minus Harvin and Favre. Coughlin may play it conservative. Eli may not need to throw a ton.

MN's offense clicked fine last week without Harvin and Favre.

 

[otb_lifer]

MN looks seriously weak on offense if they are potentially minus Harvin and Favre. Coughlin may play it conservative. Eli may not need to throw a ton.

MN's offense clicked fine last week without Harvin and Favre.

Kinda failed logic here ... clicking vs. Buffalo is a world away from clicking vs. the G-Men.

 

[omally]

MN looks seriously weak on offense if they are potentially minus Harvin and Favre. Coughlin may play it conservative. Eli may not need to throw a ton.

MN's offense clicked fine last week without Harvin and Favre.

Kinda failed logic here ... clicking vs. Buffalo is a world away from clicking vs. the G-Men.

The statement is true no matter what team they played.

 

[bc0312]

There is a lot of talk in the NY media this week about this being a "revenge game" for the Giants. They feel that the Vikings ran up the score on them last year in that blowout loss. Take that how you want to but the Giants were embarrassed last year and retired players called them out and it's now all being relived in the media.

Coughlin is not the type of coach that will run up the score but with the amount of attention this is getting, there is no doubt that it is on the players mind.

 

[omally]

There is a lot of talk in the NY media this week about this being a "revenge game" for the Giants. They feel that the Vikings ran up the score on them last year in that blowout loss. Take that how you want to but the Giants were embarrassed last year and retired players called them out and it's now all being relived in the media. Coughlin is not the type of coach that will run up the score but with the amount of attention this is getting, there is no doubt that it is on the players mind.

The Giants are in the thick of it for a playoff spot. They have no room for error. I think they will keep their foot on the gas as much as the Vikings D lets them.

 

[bulger2holt]

What do you guys think of Nicks' playoff schedule against Philly and GB in weeks 15 and 16 ? Even if he is healthy, are you worried about those games ?

 

[maxwjom0]

What do you guys think of Nicks' playoff schedule against Philly and GB in weeks 15 and 16 ? Even if he is healthy, are you worried about those games ?

If Nicks can prove he is healthy this week I think you have to start him regardless of matchup. This guy was a Top 3 WR prior to injury.

 

[FFdork]

This is on Fanball today. First I've read of it. Anyone with more info?

Some reports have Nicks still dragging his leg a little bit, so don't be surprised if his involvement in the offense is a bit limited in his first game back. Steve Smith sounds closer to full health, and will be a better start in most leagues tomorrow.

 

[CrossEyed]

This is on Fanball today. First I've read of it. Anyone with more info?

Some reports have Nicks still dragging his leg a little bit, so don't be surprised if his involvement in the offense is a bit limited in his first game back. Steve Smith sounds closer to full health, and will be a better start in most leagues tomorrow.

Whose reports? Any chance they're the same guy that declared Nicks out on Wednesday? The problem now is that there are way too many internet "experts" who feel the need to pass along "inside information" whether or not it is true.

 

[ceo3west]

Nicks expected to play

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Rotoworld...

Hakeem Nicks (questionable, leg) and Steve Smith (questionable, pectoral) both traveled with the team to Minnesota.

Smith guaranteed to reporters on Friday that he would play, while Nicks is expected to be used as if "in a preseason game." The fact that both traveled bodes well for their chances of playing, but you would be hard pressed to start either as more than a WR3. Check back noon eastern on Sunday to see if both are active.

Rotowold's running with what ESPN was speculating earlier in the week. Any homers know if this preseason snap count stuff came from the team?

 

[SouthJersey]

Despite missing games Nicks is still the Giants leader in redzone receiving targets. If he plays I'm starting him....don't care about the limited snaps, chances for re-injury, or whatever else. Not to mention I'm an underdog this week and my only other options are Obomano or Alexander.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Despite missing games Nicks is still the Giants leader in redzone receiving targets. If he plays I'm starting him....don't care about the limited snaps, chances for re-injury, or whatever else.

This.He could wind up with 3 catches....and one of two of them could be TDs. Unless you've got mack daddy options for your flex or WR3 spot, I can't see how you could bench him if he's playing.

 

[FGITLOTR]

bench Nicks at your own peril!

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Hope you're all right. Got to choose between him and VJax. Neither are a sure thing but Nicks gets the edge if they're both starting.

 

[Vision6]

I'm going with Roddy White and Miles Austin in one league I have him in. Though if I had worse options I wouldn't hesitate to start Nicks. If you got him and he's active you have to strongly consider him because he is an elite talent.

 

[Breesisdaman]

What do you guys think of Nicks' playoff schedule against Philly and GB in weeks 15 and 16 ? Even if he is healthy, are you worried about those games ?

Means they wont have as much success running the ball and will have to air it out to keep up with Vick and Rogers. I like these matchups actually.

 

[FFdork]

This is on Fanball today. First I've read of it. Anyone with more info?

Some reports have Nicks still dragging his leg a little bit, so don't be surprised if his involvement in the offense is a bit limited in his first game back. Steve Smith sounds closer to full health, and will be a better start in most leagues tomorrow.

Whose reports? Any chance they're the same guy that declared Nicks out on Wednesday? The problem now is that there are way too many internet "experts" who feel the need to pass along "inside information" whether or not it is true.

Yep, that was my point. I've been monitoring the Nicks news pretty closely and haven't seen this anywhere. Yet Fanball puts it out there as something that more than one source has reported. Doesn't mean it's not out there but I'd just like to know where that info came from.

 

[reprisal]

This is on Fanball today. First I've read of it. Anyone with more info?

Some reports have Nicks still dragging his leg a little bit, so don't be surprised if his involvement in the offense is a bit limited in his first game back. Steve Smith sounds closer to full health, and will be a better start in most leagues tomorrow.

This portion makes me highly skeptical of this report. I don't really see how you can conclude Smith is closer to full health, especially with out citing any more concrete info. None of the medical analysis I've heard previously or the players self-reported status really syncs with this.