NY Democratic Mayoral Primary "Accidentally" forgot to delete 135k Test ballots (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

https://apnews.com/article/eric-adams-lead-shrinks-nyc-democratic-mayor-primary-0c92450b5dbb57018e2f8e15d8471a97?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Oopsie Daisy!

 

[djmich]

Can we finally admit Trump may have won now.

 

[Max Power]

That's a lot of test ballots. 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

In before no evidence of voter fraud and statistically insignificant bots post

 

[Max Power]

In before no evidence of voter fraud and statistically insignificant bots post

It was like 15% of the vote total and the difference between the candidates is roughly 16,000 votes. 

 

[quick-hands]

its almost like they werent getting the results they wanted.

 

[sho nuff]

It was like 15% of the vote total and the difference between the candidates is roughly 16,000 votes. 

And by all reports thus far is an error and not fraud.  

 

[kface]

And by all reports thus far is an error and not fraud.  

And also was caught, and that's the whole point!

Right over some people's heads...

 

[Insein]

And also was caught, and that's the whole point!

Right over some people's heads...

Caught by a candidate. Not by the election officials.

 

[Stealthycat]

its almost like they werent getting the results they wanted.

you think ?

 

[Thunderlips]

The best take away from that article is that NYC is moving towards ranked choice.  That's a good thing.

 

[kface]

Caught by a candidate. Not by the election officials.

The candidate notices something and they figured it out...they probably noticed it too. I didn't see a timeline.  It's exactly how the system is supposed to work.

Especially considering they are moving to rank ballot.

 

[Max Power]

And by all reports thus far is an error and not fraud.  

They had one job

 

[Max Power]

The candidate notices something and they figured it out...they probably noticed it too. I didn't see a timeline.  It's exactly how the system is supposed to work.

Especially considering they are moving to rank ballot.

NYC released the numbers. Youd think they'd notice something was off before posting them. I guess we're asking too much.

 

[Insein]

The candidate notices something and they figured it out...they probably noticed it too. I didn't see a timeline.  It's exactly how the system is supposed to work.

Especially considering they are moving to rank ballot.

Well not exactly how it's supposed to work. There's not supposed to be 135k "test" votes already in the database. 

 

[kface]

Well not exactly how it's supposed to work. There's not supposed to be 135k "test" votes already in the database. 

Fair enough, but the system caught it.  They looked and they corrected it.  

Errors happen and they were caught. Good on everyone for figuring it out.  It was also rectified very quickly.

 

[Insein]

Fair enough, but the system caught it.  They looked and they corrected it.  

Errors happen and they were caught. Good on everyone for figuring it out.  It was also rectified very quickly.

Again the system didn't catch it. It wasn't until the candidate questioned it that they looked and "found" the extra votes. If the candidate never spoke up, what would have happened to those "test" votes?

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

The New York City Board of Elections (BOE) is responsible for this mistake. It was a dumb mistake for releasing numbers they hadn't double checked yet for an interim step in the overall process. The thread title is technically wrong, it should read "NY Board of Elections "Accidentally" forgot to delete 135k Test ballots while releasing interim results" but I'm not the thread police.

Double-check your numbers before releasing them folks. The BOE has a history of dumb stuff going back decades. 

I'm sure none of this information will stop the Trump train from claiming "rigged elections" or whatever but it will only be more fake outrage.

 

[Insein]

Mind you this is a Democrat Primary in a major US city (aka the actual election for mayor). There are no republicans to blame for this one. 

 

[Amused to Death]

Mind you this is a Democrat Primary in a major US city (aka the actual election for mayor). There are no republicans to blame for this one. 

The bungle was a black mark on New York City’s first major foray into ranked choice voting and seemed to confirm worries that the city’s Board of Elections, which is jointly run by Democrats and Republicans, was unprepared to implement the new system.

 

[sho nuff]

They had one job

Cool…still does not equate to fraud.

 

[Insein]

The bungle was a black mark on New York City’s first major foray into ranked choice voting and seemed to confirm worries that the city’s Board of Elections, which is jointly run by Democrats and Republicans, was unprepared to implement the new system.

Lol ok. Guess it's their fault after all.

 

[sho nuff]

The bungle was a black mark on New York City’s first major foray into ranked choice voting and seemed to confirm worries that the city’s Board of Elections, which is jointly run by Democrats and Republicans, was unprepared to implement the new system.

That board also apparently has a history of mistakes over the years.

 

[Amused to Death]

Lol ok. Guess it's their fault after all.

I just quoted from your link. I'm not assigning any blame. But you were quick to blame the Dems when in reality both parties run the BOE.

 

[Insein]

I just quoted from your link. I'm not assigning any blame. But you were quick to blame the Dems when in reality both parties run the BOE.

It's a Democrat Mayoral Primary run in NYC. I forgot that is a traditionally strong Republican run territory.

 

[timschochet]

Is there anyone here who believes this was deliberate? If so just come out and say it, don’t #####foot around. 

 

[Amused to Death]

It's a Democrat Mayoral Primary run in NYC. I forgot that is a traditionally strong Republican run territory.

 YOU'RE assigning blame to one party. But both run the BOE which made the mistake. I guess it was only the Dems on the board that screwed up. Maybe.

 

[Sand]

 YOU'RE assigning blame to one party. But both run the BOE which made the mistake. I guess it was only the Dems on the board that screwed up. Maybe.

Heck, we're still waiting for the Democratic Iowa caucus to be figured out.  (If I remember they gave up).

And you wonder why sane folks want to have pen and paper records.  It's for having a backup to the incompetence we see in some of these public offices.  Particularly with this one - they seem to excel at incompetence.

 

[Max Power]

Is there anyone here who believes this was deliberate? If so just come out and say it, don’t #####foot around. 

Its incompetence. It doesn't give anyone the warm and fuzzy they are doing everything else right behind the scene.

 

[Max Power]

In theory when we pull these votes from the system we should see the same %s of test votes for each candidate right?

 

[knowledge dropper]

Great post and topic.  Just goes to show how easy it is to tamper with our elections. Forensic audits will be a great safeguard.  

 

[sho nuff]

Great post and topic.  Just goes to show how easy it is to tamper with our elections. Forensic audits will be a great safeguard.  

In what way does this show how easy it is to tamper with an election?

 

[Phil Elliott]

Is there anyone here who believes this was deliberate? If so just come out and say it, don’t #####foot around. 

Do we know what the distribution of votes was by all the test ballots?

 

[knowledge dropper]

In what way does this show how easy it is to tamper with an election?

Throw in a bunch of extra ballots and they get counted.  It only becomes an issue if one of the contestants complains.   
 

Hmmm….sounds familiar…

 

[sho nuff]

Throw in a bunch of extra ballots and they get counted.  It only becomes an issue if one of the contestants complains.   
 

Hmmm….sounds familiar…

They weren’t thrown in and not by outside sources.

No this does not sound familiar 

 

[Max Power]

Do we know what the distribution of votes was by all the test ballots?

Not to my knowledge, but this has potential to be a major issue

 

[knowledge dropper]

They weren’t thrown in and not by outside sources.

No this does not sound familiar 

And yet it happened….

 

[sho nuff]

And yet it happened….

Sure. Just not fraud…no evidence of tampering and quickly found and rectified.

Not really a parallel to other baseless accusations despite the effort of a few to equate this.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

It seems like the US should be able to do a better job counting ballots.  Not just this particular race -- vote-counting in general takes way too long now.

 

[dkp993]

Throw in a bunch of extra ballots and they get counted.  It only becomes an issue if one of the contestants complains.   
 

Hmmm….sounds familiar…

Where? American idol? You a Sanjaya fan? I know there was a push years ago to get Sanjaya to win as a joke but it ultimately fell short.  Still upset about that I guess?  Can’t blame you really, it was funny.  

 

[The Big Donkey]

The bungle was a black mark on New York City’s first major foray into ranked choice voting and seemed to confirm worries that the city’s Board of Elections, which is jointly run by Democrats and Republicans, was unprepared to implement the new system.

this phrase hasn't been cancelled yet?

 

[quick-hands]

Well not exactly how it's supposed to work. There's not supposed to be 135k "test" votes already in the database. 

Yes thats exactly how it works.    Its so much easier to screw republicans

 

[The General]

Mind you this is a Democrat Primary in a major US city (aka the actual election for mayor). There are no republicans to blame for this one. 

Are you saying they cheated to have a candidate win?

 

[The General]

Yes thats exactly how it works.    Its so much easier to screw republicans

Where did this happen in the 2020 presidential election?

 

[ekbeats]

How on earth can you have a system where 9 days after an election we have no idea who won?  And they’re saying it will be another 2 weeks before we know.

 

[Max Power]

https://twitter.com/NYCMayorsOffice/status/1410235908360658946?s=20

DeBlasio calls for an audit.

Threat to our democracy!

 

[rockaction]

Paper and pen ballots. The only way. Sorry.

 

[rockaction]

What the bloody hell did happen in Iowa? You all just reminded me of it.

 

[Sand]

What the bloody hell did happen in Iowa? You all just reminded me of it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/04/us/politics/what-happened-iowa-caucuses.amp.html

Complete debacle.  They never did get it all sorted out.

 

[AAABatteries]

What the bloody hell did happen in Iowa? You all just reminded me of it.

Meh, it's just Iowa.

On a somewhat more serious note, hopefully this facilitates the Iowa Caucus no longer being first every go round.