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Obama's Approval Rating Is ~60% With People Under 50 (1 Viewer)

Considering he hasn't really done anything of note for the past couple years I too think he's turned into a decent President.

 
This outgoing President who is popular with people under 50 is only 55 himself.  He has a lot of campaigning for other Democrats left to do. 

 
cstu said:
In 8 years the 18-49 range will be 26-57. Younger people generally skew liberal so that leaves conservatives with people 58+.  Good luck with that.
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What happened to the people of the 60's who were going to change the world?  So much promise and so much disappointment. "Imagine" what could of been.

 
cstu said:
In 8 years the 18-49 range will be 26-57. Younger people generally skew liberal so that leaves conservatives with people 58+.  Good luck with that.
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I wouldn't consider the 30+ group as "younger".  

The Economist actually had a good article on the Millenials and their politics.  They are actually more varied in their views than the Baby Boomers were at the same age.  As in, the Baby Boomers identified as more liberal.  Obviously now the Baby Boomers are considered more conservative.

Liberal vs. conservative is a bit of a moving target and trying to predict the voting future of a generation isn't easy.

 
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siffoin said:
What happened to the people of the 60's who were going to change the world?  So much promise and so much disappointment. "Imagine" what could of been.
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Those people are still liberal for the most part but time has shown that the members of the 60's counterculture were a small part of the overall demographics of Baby Boomers.  I think they can be happy with the direction the country has taken in the past 50 years even if the other members of their generation are still stuck in the stone age.

 
jonessed said:
I wouldn't consider the 30+ group as "younger".  The Economist had a good article on the Millenials and their politics.  They are actually more varied in their views than the Baby Boomers were at the same age.  As in, the Baby Boomers identified as more liberal.  Obviously now they are considered more conservative.

Liberal vs. conservative is a bit of a moving target, but trying to predict the voting future of a generation isn't easy.
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Liberal vs. conservative has two main parts - social and economic.  I think we're past the age when discrimination was broadly accepted by a majority of people. In that sense, yesterday's liberals are today's centrist.  On drug use - marijuana in particular - it's now a centrist idea to decriminalize.

Economically, I don't think we'll ever get truly liberal because people will always have an inherent wish to keep money they earned rather than give it to people who didn't.  I'm fairly liberal and I don't even wish to go too far down that road.  I do believe that making sure that people get health care, besides being the right thing to do, leads to a healthier working population and by extension more tax money.  The same goes for the reason why I support making college less expensive - down the road it means higher tax revenues.

 
cstu said:
Liberal vs. conservative has two main parts - social and economic.  I think we're past the age when discrimination was broadly accepted by a majority of people. In that sense, yesterday's liberals are today's centrist.  On drug use - marijuana in particular - it's now a centrist idea to decriminalize.

Economically, I don't think we'll ever get truly liberal because people will always have an inherent wish to keep money they earned rather than give it to people who didn't.  I'm fairly liberal and I don't even wish to go too far down that road.  I do believe that making sure that people get health care, besides being the right thing to do, leads to a healthier working population and by extension more tax money.  The same goes for the reason why I support making college less expensive - down the road it means higher tax revenues.
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That middle ground between social and economic policy is going to determine how programs like SS and Medicare are handled and have a huge impact on politics.

We have been living in a world where our tax burden does not even come close to covering our spending.  That's a good thing up to a point, but we are well past that point.  Is everyone willing to eat a lot more taxes?  We are beyond the taxing the rich to cover this.  Taxes are going to have to go up substantially unless we significantly alter our big budget items (defense, SS, Medicare).

Edit: We are going to have to do both, it's just a matter of degree.

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
Considering he hasn't really done anything of note for the past couple years I too think he's turned into a decent President.
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When the guy stops doing stuff he's very popular.  I'm loving his last few months, which basically consist of him whining that Trump is whining.

 
jonessed said:
That middle ground between social and economic policy is going to determine how programs like SS and Medicare are handled and have a huge impact on politics.

We have been living in a world where our tax burden does not even come close to covering our spending.  That's a good thing up to a point, but we are well past that point.  Is everyone willing to eat a lot more taxes?  We are beyond the taxing the rich to cover this.  Taxes are going to have to go up substantially unless we significantly alter our big budget items (defense, SS, Medicare).

Edit: We are going to have to do both, it's just a matter of degree.
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Cut unwanted military programs and raise the retirement age.  Ok, what else do you need me to fix?

 
cstu said:
Cut unwanted military programs and raise the retirement age.  Ok, what else do you need me to fix?
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If either of those were easy we would have done them by now.

Fixing Medicare is going to be very tough.  It will require rationing and "death panels" and that's not popular.

 
jonessed said:
If either of those were easy we would have done them by now.

Fixing Medicare is going to be very tough.  It will require rationing and "death panels" and that's not popular.
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Not popular but the right thing to do.  If the trade off for 20 year olds getting life-saving cancer treatments is a government panel over-ruling a family member on taking a 90 year old off life support then that's what we have to do. 

 
cstu said:
Not popular but the right thing to do.  If the trade off for 20 year olds getting life-saving cancer treatments is a government panel over-ruling a family member on taking a 90 year old off life support then that's what we have to do. 
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Because this is always the case, right?  My guess is there are going to be a helluva lot more gray areas here than you cut-and-dried scenario.

Not only that, I see that the day that 90 becomes 85.  then maybe 75.  Oops!  Have to save more money?  Okay, that cutoff is now 65.  Funding is short again, now we have lower it to 55.  The problem with solutions like yours is there is NEVER a do not cross line.

 
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Obama's final approval rating: 60%

- 3rd highest ever (Clinton #1 with 66%, Reagan #2 with 64%)
- 25% say Obama is one of the nation's greatest presidents (compared to 11% who said it about Reagan, 10% with Clinton, and 5% with Bush)
- 23% said Obama was a "poor" president (higher than Reagan, Clinton or Bush Sr., but lower than George W. Bush who was at 46%)






(sorry for posting this to a CSTU thread, but the other thread was locked by the mods)

 
I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man.

 
MaxThreshold said:
Because this is always the case, right?  My guess is there are going to be a helluva lot more gray areas here than you cut-and-dried scenario.

Not only that, I see that the day that 90 becomes 85.  then maybe 75.  Oops!  Have to save more money?  Okay, that cutoff is now 65.  Funding is short again, now we have lower it to 55.  The problem with solutions like yours is there is NEVER a do not cross line.
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Well of course they're gonna kill all the white Christians over 18 so they can't ever vote. Duh. 

 
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