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*** OFFICAL 2009 San Diego Super Chargers Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

DPRugby said:
We get the Jets at home. Not sure how I feel about that. My heart can't take a repeat of 2004 when we should have rolled them.
Jets are the worst team left in the playoffs. Reivas can take VJax away and Rivers won't miss a beat - he spreads the ball around to the open guy regardless of who it is. I look for a big game from Gates.Any team that runs well and plays defense like the Jets has a chance, but I think the Bolts win big, 31-16.
 
DPRugby said:
We get the Jets at home. Not sure how I feel about that. My heart can't take a repeat of 2004 when we should have rolled them.
Things that concern me:- The Jets have an athletic TE that can be game breaking- NY runs well and runs often... this could be the game where Jamal Williams is sorely missed- If SD does sell out to stop the run all it would take is Braylon Edwards to catch 2-3 of those dropped ballsThings I like about the matchup:- 'gunz is right, Rivers does an exceptional job simply finding the open guy. Revis can't cover 'em all.- Sproles is the perfect weapon to counter blitzes. If you can get him a screen pass in space a few times he could have a huge game.- Sanchez played very well vs CIN, but will have to throw more than 15 passes to beat SD. The Jets have lost their last seven games when Sanchez passes 20 or more times in a game.
 
- Sanchez played very well vs CIN, but will have to throw more than 15 passes to beat SD. The Jets have lost their last seven games when Sanchez passes 20 or more times in a game.
Didn't know this. That bodes well for the Chargers in this game.
 
This is the team I least wanted to see the Chargers have to play apart from the Vikings. A really bad match up.

It all boils down to how well the Charger D can play the run, and how well they play in the red zone. I'm thinking 9 in the box, run blitzes, everything's on the table to slow down the Jets' rush game, make Sanchez beat them and try to hold the Jets to field goal attempts.

I hope the Chargers move Jackson around on offense to either shed Reevis or at least force the Jets to make more adjustments on D. Cedric Benson just ran for a buck 69 on them. Everyone seems to be counting the Charger run game out - I think that's a very big mistake, and I'm sure Norv is going to give Tomlinson and Sproles plenty of opportunities. I also see several people talking about the Jets depending on turnovers - if it comes to that I don't think the Jets are in great shape since as mentioned above the Chargers haven't really beat themselves this year with turn overs or penalties.

I'm glad the Chargers had the bye week and get to play at home - it's huge that they don't have to deal with cold weather and the time off could prove invaluable in terms of the health of some key players.

It's a great test for the Chargers, if they want to be champs they're going to have to earn it.

 
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This is the team I least wanted to see the Chargers have to play apart from the Vikings. A really bad match up.It all boils down to how well the Charger D can play the run, and how well they play in the red zone. I'm thinking 9 in the box, run blitzes, everything's on the table to slow down the Jets' rush game, make Sanchez beat them and try to hold the Jets to field goal attempts.I hope the Chargers move Jackson around on offense to either shed Reevis or at least force the Jets to make more adjustments on D. Cedric Benson just ran for a buck 69 on them. Everyone seems to be counting the Charger run game out - I think that's a very big mistake, and I'm sure Norv is going to give Tomlinson and Sproles plenty of opportunities. I also see several people talking about the Jets depending on turnovers - if it comes to that I don't think the Jets are in great shape since as mentioned above the Chargers haven't really beat themselves this year with turn overs or penalties.I'm glad the Chargers had the bye week and get to play at home - it's huge that they don't have to deal with cold weather and the time off could prove invaluable in terms of the health of some key players.It's a great test for the Chargers, if they want to be champs they're going to have to earn it.
Need Merriman/Phillips to show up. The Run D has been better of late but is still suspect. I dont fear the Jets passing game at all. Play action to Keller should be a concern. I think LT and sproles bring a nice game this week. Rivers to Gates & Floyd, Im sure that Vjax will be neutralized. But maybe just maybe they try Revis on Gates. Who knows
 
Need Merriman/Phillips to show up.
:lmao: This game more than any other so far this season will tell me something about where Merriman's career is headed. If Phillips is on the field he'll be a factor, I never worry about him anymore. Surprised you didn't mention the inside guys - it's a huge game for Cooper, Siler and Dobbins. If those guys play the way they did vs. the Cowboys it could be a long day for the Jets.
I think LT and sproles bring a nice game this week.
This is it for LaDainian - his last best shot at winning it all and reminding people that he may still be relevant. I hope he channels his emotions in a positive way - they seem to get the better of him some of the time in situations like this.
Rivers to Gates & Floyd, Im sure that Vjax will be neutralized. But maybe just maybe they try Revis on Gates. Who knows
That'd be a horrible misuse of Revis. I'd love to see them try that.
 
Need Merriman/Phillips to show up.
:goodposting: This game more than any other so far this season will tell me something about where Merriman's career is headed. If Phillips is on the field he'll be a factor, I never worry about him anymore. Surprised you didn't mention the inside guys - it's a huge game for Cooper, Siler and Dobbins. If those guys play the way they did vs. the Cowboys it could be a long day for the Jets.
I think LT and sproles bring a nice game this week.
This is it for LaDainian - his last best shot at winning it all and reminding people that he may still be relevant. I hope he channels his emotions in a positive way - they seem to get the better of him some of the time in situations like this.
Rivers to Gates & Floyd, Im sure that Vjax will be neutralized. But maybe just maybe they try Revis on Gates. Who knows
That'd be a horrible misuse of Revis. I'd love to see them try that.
Siler has been a real find, part of the reason I think we will do OK vs. the NYJ run D.
 
This is the team I least wanted to see the Chargers have to play apart from the Vikings. A really bad match up.It all boils down to how well the Charger D can play the run, and how well they play in the red zone. I'm thinking 9 in the box, run blitzes, everything's on the table to slow down the Jets' rush game, make Sanchez beat them and try to hold the Jets to field goal attempts.I hope the Chargers move Jackson around on offense to either shed Reevis or at least force the Jets to make more adjustments on D. Cedric Benson just ran for a buck 69 on them. Everyone seems to be counting the Charger run game out - I think that's a very big mistake, and I'm sure Norv is going to give Tomlinson and Sproles plenty of opportunities. I also see several people talking about the Jets depending on turnovers - if it comes to that I don't think the Jets are in great shape since as mentioned above the Chargers haven't really beat themselves this year with turn overs or penalties.I'm glad the Chargers had the bye week and get to play at home - it's huge that they don't have to deal with cold weather and the time off could prove invaluable in terms of the health of some key players.It's a great test for the Chargers, if they want to be champs they're going to have to earn it.
On Christmass morning if I had told you the Chargers would host the Jets for a chance at the AFC title game you and everyone else would have signed up for that in a milli second. People were worried in the cold weather Chris Johnson would run all over us blah blah. The Chargers couldnt have asked for a better situation here, a rookie QB coming to our house, a second road game for them in a row, cross country. I with Tommy, I just dont see how the Jets will be able to score enough to make it close.
 
On Christmass morning if I had told you the Chargers would host the Jets for a chance at the AFC title game you and everyone else would have signed up for that in a milli second. People were worried in the cold weather Chris Johnson would run all over us blah blah. The Chargers couldnt have asked for a better situation here, a rookie QB coming to our house, a second road game for them in a row, cross country. I with Tommy, I just dont see how the Jets will be able to score enough to make it close.
I don't think there's much comparison between the Titans and the Jets. Johnson did run all over the Chargers when they got him the ball - Vince Young pretty much counteracted any good Johnson did. Now that may be a similarity this week if Sanchez makes some mistakes. However, the key to the Jets is their defense - which can't be said about the Titans. The question isn't whether the Jets will score enough - it's whether the Chargers will. I think they can, particularly since this won't be another ice bowl, but I've seen this scenario play out before with the better defense beating the better offense. The Chargers should be favored - but if the Chargers win it likely won't be a cake walk.
 
Someone needs to start the official 2010 season thread so I can go in there and #### all over the Chargers. I'm seriously thinking about turning in my blue and yellow and rooting for a steaming pile of dog crap instead. The dog crap would have a better chance at a Super Bowl title than the Chargers.

 
Someone needs to start the official 2010 season thread so I can go in there and #### all over the Chargers. I'm seriously thinking about turning in my blue and yellow and rooting for a steaming pile of dog crap instead. The dog crap would have a better chance at a Super Bowl title than the Chargers.
Dog crap is currently listed as a 25-1 shot in Vegas to win the 2010 Super Bowl.
 
Someone needs to start the official 2010 season thread so I can go in there and #### all over the Chargers. I'm seriously thinking about turning in my blue and yellow and rooting for a steaming pile of dog crap instead. The dog crap would have a better chance at a Super Bowl title than the Chargers.
Dog crap is currently listed as a 25-1 shot in Vegas to win the 2010 Super Bowl.
I need to see Chase's breakdown before I lay any bets. The guy is $$
 
Jets are the worst team left in the playoffs. Reivas can take VJax away and Rivers won't miss a beat - he spreads the ball around to the open guy regardless of who it is. I look for a big game from Gates.Any team that runs well and plays defense like the Jets has a chance, but I think the Bolts win big, 31-16.
We should all known right then and there that the Chargers were gonna lose. Once you get this kind of praise from tommyGunZ, you are dead meat.
 
Jets are the worst team left in the playoffs. Reivas can take VJax away and Rivers won't miss a beat - he spreads the ball around to the open guy regardless of who it is. I look for a big game from Gates.Any team that runs well and plays defense like the Jets has a chance, but I think the Bolts win big, 31-16.
We should all known right then and there that the Chargers were gonna lose. Once you get this kind of praise from tommyGunZ, you are dead meat.
how much of this loss can be put on Rivers for not finishing drives? I know the jets have great D but come on... he has some of the best weapons in the game or at the very least some of the hardest weapons to match up with. I give Kaeding credit for 2 sure chippy misses but come on can you really expect Kaeding to make a 57 yarder? I give him a pass on that one. In 2 pivotal spots Rivers wasn't able to make plays. I will ALMOST give him a pass on the Revis pick except that you just shouldn't throw at him or you're asking for trouble. The second pick was terrible and cost them the go ahead score. If he wants to be elite in this league he has to be able to carry his team when they need him to and yesterday they REALLY needed him to score some TDs when they still had the lead. Seems like with a 10 pt lead the Jets played off a bit and Rivers quickly got them a TD but he needs to do it long before that. Gotta squash the little brother before he builds any belief that he can get it done!!he's now got 8 TDs and 9 INTs in the playoffs for his career. Their team is STILL one of the most talented teams around but they just can't get over the top. Reg season stats are nice but you gotta get it done in the playoffs Phil... simple as that.
 
Jets are the worst team left in the playoffs. Reivas can take VJax away and Rivers won't miss a beat - he spreads the ball around to the open guy regardless of who it is. I look for a big game from Gates.

Any team that runs well and plays defense like the Jets has a chance, but I think the Bolts win big, 31-16.
We should all known right then and there that the Chargers were gonna lose. Once you get this kind of praise from tommyGunZ, you are dead meat.
how much of this loss can be put on Rivers for not finishing drives? I know the jets have great D but come on... he has some of the best weapons in the game or at the very least some of the hardest weapons to match up with. I give Kaeding credit for 2 sure chippy misses but come on can you really expect Kaeding to make a 57 yarder? I give him a pass on that one. In 2 pivotal spots Rivers wasn't able to make plays. I will ALMOST give him a pass on the Revis pick except that you just shouldn't throw at him or you're asking for trouble. The second pick was terrible and cost them the go ahead score. If he wants to be elite in this league he has to be able to carry his team when they need him to and yesterday they REALLY needed him to score some TDs when they still had the lead. Seems like with a 10 pt lead the Jets played off a bit and Rivers quickly got them a TD but he needs to do it long before that. Gotta squash the little brother before he builds any belief that he can get it done!!he's now got 8 TDs and 9 INTs in the playoffs for his career. Their team is STILL one of the most talented teams around but they just can't get over the top. Reg season stats are nice but you gotta get it done in the playoffs Phil... simple as that.
Very little. Penalties are what killed the drives.
 
how much of this loss can be put on Rivers for not finishing drives?
You are asking a lot of a guy if you expect him to overcome snaps that sail over his head, numerous false starts, and a running attack that forced him into 2nd or 3rd and long every single time. I'm not saying it couldn't have been done, but it seems like an unrealistic expectation.
 
Norv gets a 3 year extension.

I don't think Rivers can be blamed by himself. There is plenty of blame to go around. Gates with a key drop and a little too much dancing on that one catch when he should have gotten a first down. When your best play maker isn't getting it done, you are in trouble.

I hope they spend some time, money and draft picks on improving the run blocking and defensive line. And of course we're going to need a running back. I love you LT, but this may have been your last chance at the ring. I also could go the rest of my life without watching Cromartie play again. He has become the victim in every opponent highlight reel. What has happened to him?

 
how much of this loss can be put on Rivers for not finishing drives?
You are asking a lot of a guy if you expect him to overcome snaps that sail over his head, numerous false starts, and a running attack that forced him into 2nd or 3rd and long every single time. I'm not saying it couldn't have been done, but it seems like an unrealistic expectation.
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ThisThe game was lost in the 1st half. They were moving the ball well, but then killing themselves on each drive. bad snap, dumb mental penalties, using timeouts too early, missed FGs. Rivers was fine except for the one INT. Floyd had a bad game with the drops and getting called for the block in the back on the nice catch and run by jackson that would have put them near the redzone (i think it was same drive that ended with the Revis INT) Just frustrating b/c the game was there for them to take control early and they blew it.They will be back next year in the mix, hopefully they can make improvements and finish the job. Rivers is definitely a qb who can do it. Upgrade the lines and get a RB However I have been a fan of the Eagles and Chargers my whole life so I think I am doomed to constant playoff failure for my teams, hope things can change
 
how much of this loss can be put on Rivers for not finishing drives?
You are asking a lot of a guy if you expect him to overcome snaps that sail over his head, numerous false starts, and a running attack that forced him into 2nd or 3rd and long every single time. I'm not saying it couldn't have been done, but it seems like an unrealistic expectation.
TRUE.... His second pick was inexcusable but I actually do agree that you can't put MOST of this on Phil but it is a 2 way street. A lot of people on these boards seem to NOT give Big Ben that same amount of leeway when they argue that he should have finished off his drives with TDs when he dealt with nearly the same thing last year and at times this year.... Just sayin....
 
ProFootballFocus view of credit/blame for this game. Rivers not mentioned. Interesting that Kaeding isn't mentioned, but maybe because it was so obvious...?

Divisional Playoffs: New York Jets @ San Diego - Quick Hits

It looked like a game that was getting away from the Jets as their offense stumbled its way through the first half. But the league's No. 1-ranked defense kept it close and took advantage of Chargers mistakes to create a stunning upset. But who needs to shoulder the blame for the Chargers? And which Jets deserve extra credit? Let’s see ....

New York Jets

Performances of Note

• It’s almost too easy to talk about another stellar performance from the guy we felt should have been Defensive Player of the Year. Darrelle Revis allowed only two of the five balls thrown his way to be completed for a measly 6 yards, while accounting for an athletic pass defense and key interception. Vincent Jackson couldn’t catch a ball on Revis and has added his name to the long list of elite receivers to have no joy when venturing onto Revis Island.

• But as good as Revis was, he may not have been the best player on the Jets defense. Step forward, Mike Devito. Devito was an absolute menace when the Chargers tried to run but even more destructive when Rivers tried to throw the ball. He accounted for a sack and 4 pressures as he was too much for the right side of the Chargers line.

• It’s never bad when an offensive line combines to give up just 2 pressures (the sack can be attributed to Tony Richardson, and Mark Sanchez took a hit for holding the ball too long). It boggles the mind that anyone would call the excellent D’Brickashaw Ferguson a bust, especially after a stellar performance where he gave up no pressure.

• If there is one worrying aspect of the Jets' performance is that regular-season Sanchez showed up, as opposed to the guy who looked so good against the Bengals. He didn’t complete a single pass when faced with any pressure, and that has to be a worry with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis approaching.

San Diego Chargers

Performances of Note

• Missing: one pass rush. For a guy who talked a lot of trash during the game and head-butted Ferguson, Shaun Phillips really needed to do more to earn the right to that kind of behavior. Other than a pressure when he was unblocked, he did nothing. Shawne Merriman wasn’t much better. It’s clear he’s not the same player he was before the injury and one can only hope being a full season removed will see him regain some of the explosion that made him such a feared pass-rusher.

• You only need to compare the two offensive lines to really see why the Jets won this one. The Chargers offensive line couldn’t do anything to open up holes for LaDainian Tomlinson (not that he looked up to doing much anyway) and the right side especially struggled.

• Did Malcolm Floyd look uncomfortable or what? For a guy who has played so well this year, he dropped a pass and didn’t look anything like the vertical threat we have seen from him since the Chargers cut Chris Chambers. In a game that should have been a chance for him to shine, he really blew his big-game audition about as badly as any Chargers player.

• If there was one positive, it was the impact of Antonio Garay, who only saw 11 snaps but was as effective as any Chargers player during them. He looked like a good prospect with his 3 stops, and it’s an interesting path that brought him to the Chargers (after, coincidentally, coming from the Jets practice squad via Chicago and Cleveland).
The Chargers must use the offseason to improve the running game and pass rush, whether via draft or free agency or both.
 
ProFootballFocus view of credit/blame for this game. Rivers not mentioned. Interesting that Kaeding isn't mentioned, but maybe because it was so obvious...?

Divisional Playoffs: New York Jets @ San Diego - Quick Hits

It looked like a game that was getting away from the Jets as their offense stumbled its way through the first half. But the league's No. 1-ranked defense kept it close and took advantage of Chargers mistakes to create a stunning upset. But who needs to shoulder the blame for the Chargers? And which Jets deserve extra credit? Let’s see ....

New York Jets

Performances of Note

• It’s almost too easy to talk about another stellar performance from the guy we felt should have been Defensive Player of the Year. Darrelle Revis allowed only two of the five balls thrown his way to be completed for a measly 6 yards, while accounting for an athletic pass defense and key interception. Vincent Jackson couldn’t catch a ball on Revis and has added his name to the long list of elite receivers to have no joy when venturing onto Revis Island.

• But as good as Revis was, he may not have been the best player on the Jets defense. Step forward, Mike Devito. Devito was an absolute menace when the Chargers tried to run but even more destructive when Rivers tried to throw the ball. He accounted for a sack and 4 pressures as he was too much for the right side of the Chargers line.

• It’s never bad when an offensive line combines to give up just 2 pressures (the sack can be attributed to Tony Richardson, and Mark Sanchez took a hit for holding the ball too long). It boggles the mind that anyone would call the excellent D’Brickashaw Ferguson a bust, especially after a stellar performance where he gave up no pressure.

• If there is one worrying aspect of the Jets' performance is that regular-season Sanchez showed up, as opposed to the guy who looked so good against the Bengals. He didn’t complete a single pass when faced with any pressure, and that has to be a worry with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis approaching.

San Diego Chargers

Performances of Note

• Missing: one pass rush. For a guy who talked a lot of trash during the game and head-butted Ferguson, Shaun Phillips really needed to do more to earn the right to that kind of behavior. Other than a pressure when he was unblocked, he did nothing. Shawne Merriman wasn’t much better. It’s clear he’s not the same player he was before the injury and one can only hope being a full season removed will see him regain some of the explosion that made him such a feared pass-rusher.

• You only need to compare the two offensive lines to really see why the Jets won this one. The Chargers offensive line couldn’t do anything to open up holes for LaDainian Tomlinson (not that he looked up to doing much anyway) and the right side especially struggled.

• Did Malcolm Floyd look uncomfortable or what? For a guy who has played so well this year, he dropped a pass and didn’t look anything like the vertical threat we have seen from him since the Chargers cut Chris Chambers. In a game that should have been a chance for him to shine, he really blew his big-game audition about as badly as any Chargers player.

• If there was one positive, it was the impact of Antonio Garay, who only saw 11 snaps but was as effective as any Chargers player during them. He looked like a good prospect with his 3 stops, and it’s an interesting path that brought him to the Chargers (after, coincidentally, coming from the Jets practice squad via Chicago and Cleveland).
The Chargers must use the offseason to improve the running game and pass rush, whether via draft or free agency or both.
and that is what I will agree with. Their line right now just cannot open holes for whomever is running behind them.
 
Rex Ryan gives Marty a game ball.

Updated: January 21, 2010, 4:49 PM ET

Jets acknowledge Marty Schottenheimer

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Jets coach Rex Ryan sent a game ball to Marty Schottenheimer after last weekend's playoff upset of the San Diego Chargers, the team that fired the father of New York's offensive coordinator following a 14-2 regular season.

Brian Schottenheimer said he was touched when he learned of his boss' gesture Tuesday -- and joked that it didn't even occur to him to do it.

Marty Schottenheimer was fired in February 2007 after the Chargers lost their first playoff game despite having the NFL's best record that season. He had 35 wins and two AFC West titles in his last three seasons in San Diego, where his son was quarterbacks coach from 2002-05.

"It felt nice to pick up the phone after the game and talk to my father," Brian Schottenheimer said Thursday.

After Sunday's 17-14 win, the son has a chance to do something his famous father never did as a head coach: reach the Super Bowl. The Jets play Sunday in the AFC championship game at Indianapolis.

Marty Schottenheimer is coaching college players at the East-West Shrine Game in Orlando, Fla., this week.

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
 
On a more serious note - you think Cromartie will be dealt? It didn't seem to me like Cason is ready to be a starter, but the rumors are that A.J. might be ready to go that way. Obviously Cromartie's specatcular season a few years back was somewhat of a flash in the pan, but the guy is a very good cover corner. Even though Cromartie can't tackle, I shudder to think at how much worse the defense would have been if they didn't have Cromartie and Jammer to leave on islands much of the time.
 
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