****OFFICIAL**** 2008 Washington Redskins Off Season Thread! (1 Viewer)

[DCThunder]

Well, at least this one starts a little later than the previous one, but all who love the Burgundy and Gold (and those who hate them) can agather here to discuss the comings and goings at Redskins Park and the travels of Redskins One.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Well after a rollercoaster season, what do we need? And what don't we need, to get back to the playoffs in 08.

DOES JOE GIBBS RESIGN??????

Say goodbye to Brandon LLyod

Draft needs

DL

OL

Saftey

WR

We really need a BIG WR. When is the last time we threw a fade in the endzone?

A few NFL WR Free Agents.

Bryant Johnson 6-3 UFA. Gets overshadowed in Zona

DJ Hackett 6-2 UFA Ankle problems durning 07

Malcom Floyd 6-5 RFA

Wr's from Draft

James Hardy Indiana 6-6 4.59 (Possible Problem Child)

Limas Sweed Texas 6-5 4.58

Adarius Bowman Oklahoma St 6-4 4.53

Keenan Burton Kentucky 6-1 4.50

Jordy Nelson Kansas 6-3 4.62

Paul Hubbard Wisconsin 6-3 4.49

Will Franklin Missouri 6-1 4.45

Marcus Monk Arkansas 6-6 4.59

De'Cody Fagg FSU 6-2 4.47

Safety's NCAA

Craig Steltz LSU SS 6-1 4.59 (Played with Landry in College)

Jamie Silva BC SS 5-11 4.62 (Was all over the field in his Bowl Game)

Jamar Adams Michigan 6-2 4.52 (Put Tebow on his back several times)

DL Pro

Justin Smith UFA Bengals

OL Pro

Alan Faneca UFA Pittsburgh Steelers (Is Randy Thomas still top Tier? Would we make Kendall a 3rd guard?

Jordan Gross UFA Carolina Panthers (Another year of Jansen missing the whole season.)

These are just a few of the names out there that I've mentioned. Please put in your input!!!

RIP SEAN

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS

 

[avoiding injuries]

Anyone know what our draft picks look like this year, whether we traded any away or if we have any additional? I'm guessing we will have the 21st pick this year...

 

[redman]

Here's my recipe for success, broken down by position:

QB: still Campbell's team; resign Collins; dump Brunell; find a legit QB3 who can learn and develop over the next 2-3 years if Campbell flops.

RB: Maintain status quo for one more year; Portis, Betts & Cartwright are all good at what they do, as is Sellers.

TE: Add depth. Cooley is excellent as a blocker and pass catcher, and Yoder is good as a complementary blocking and occasional receiving TE; they need a 3rd TE who is a solid blocker for their jumbo packages.

OL: Add depth across the board. Heyer appears to be starting material eventually and was a nice find, and that may be enough for them at OT for next year if they can keep Wade for a reasonable price; they're thin at OG and C, and need some younger guys to start learning the ropes given that Thomas and Kendall will be 32 and 35, respectively at the start of next season - it's time to see if Lorenzo Alexander can play OG in the NFL, or if he's best suited to play DT or as this utility player they've been using him as. Fabini and Pucillo are only any good for depth, but I'd rather find younger guys to replace them who have a realistic chance of turning into starters one day.

WR: Find another playmaker. Moss is an outstanding WR when he's healthy, but when they lose him to injury (which happens too much) they go from having a dangerous WR corps to one that is below average. Randle El is a good role player and is sufficient as a WR2 if Moss is healthy, but they need more. Resign Caldwell who is a solid possession WR, and who is adept at getting 3rd down catches beyond the marker. See if Mix and/or Espy can make plays and start them if they can. I hate to say it but it's probably time to dump Thrash if they can find a WR who can actually play WR rather than special teams only. McCardell's gone too. Oh, and buh-bye Brandon Lloyd.

DL: They're set at DT for next year; Montgomery and Golston can start, and Griffin can now be used in rotation to save wear and tear on him. Maybe look for depth there, but that's all. Carter is very good at RDE, but could use some help at LDE. The combination of Daniels and Wilson and Evans isn't bad at LDE, but if they can find a single play-maker who is superior in the draft they should draft him. The goal for next year overall should be to be able to generate consistent pass rush with only four guys.

LB: Between Fletcher and Blades they're set for the long-term at MLB. McIntosh's injury and Washington's age make me leery of their situation at OLB though. They need to draft a OLB prospect. Godfrey's probably not back. Campbell will return but he's more of a special teams maven. I figure Blades will play at WLB until McIntosh is healthy.

CB: They need to find Springs' replacement. Springs still "has it", but only when he's healthy, and he's not healthy enough consistently enough anymore, particularly for his price tag. They need a younger, more reliable playmaker at CB to replace Springs, particularly because Rogers is recovering from a knee injury. Smoot is back, and they found a hidden gem of a nickel CB in Torrance, but they still need a front line guy. Hopefully this can be done through the draft as good FA CB's are expensive.

S: Landry is the real deal and should be great; the jury's out on Doughty IMHO, though I was very impressed with his progress. I'm still not confident that he is good enough in pass coverage, something that the revamped, post-Taylor scheme hid. The rest of the safeties are nondescript role players, so getting some young depth here that might pan out long term is probably a good idea. Keep Priolieu if you can for his value on special teams.

PK/P: Suisham impressed me this year (the 30-yard miss yesterday notwithstanding), and deserves to be resigned. Frost was adequate, but seems like he's developing and he too should return.

 

[southeastjerome]

Anyone know what our draft picks look like this year, whether we traded any away or if we have any additional? I'm guessing we will have the 21st pick this year...

Yes, I think it is the 21st because TB lost today. Not 100% sure though. Also I am pretty sure that all draft picks are in tact. For the Kendall trade, the Jets were to receive the Skins 5th rounder if he played 80% of snaps, and a 4th rounder in 2009 if he played more than 80% of the snaps. I can't think of any other picks that were dealt away. -Obviously DE is a need, I'm not sure how much Phillip Daniels has left in the tank and Demetric Evans didn't show too much this year either. -Also, WR is another obvious need. ARE had a pretty nice finish to the year and Caldwell put together some nice games down the stretch. Thrash should be back for teams duties/4th/5th WR. It would be nice to snag someone like Sweed or Doucet, should their injury concerns somehow push them into the 2nd round. -I think its a must to draft an OL on day 1. Depth is an obvious concern, especially with Jansen being an obvious injury concern and Thomas coming off of a major injury. Not only that, but none of these guys are spring chickens and its time to bring in some young blood. Heyer was nice, but he still has a ways to go and his upside might be limited. Fabini stinks.-Corner is another position that needs to be looked at in my opinion. Springs has shown to be hesitant about restructuring and who knows what will happen with him. Either way, he's probably gone in 2009 when his cap number increases to near 10 million. Rogers is coming off an injury and Smoot is not a #1 corner. Torrence was a nice bright spot for the team and I'm happy that he's due back. He's a solid nickel/dime corner and decent on teams. Still, I don't think you can have enough depth at the CB position.-I'll say it, I think it would be smart to draft a QB. Campbell showed progress, but what's wrong with cutting Brunell (cap savings of 3.5 million) and keeping Todd Collins?

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Don't we lose a pick for Duckett? Or was that last year?

 

[Meast21]

Don't we lose a pick for Duckett? Or was that last year?

We do not have a fourth this year.

 

[DCThunder]

Redman's analysis is spot on, but it doesn't take contracts and cap hits into account. For instance, Jansen has a huge number for an older, oft-injured RT (even if the injuries aren't his fault). While I'm sure he'll restructure, is it time to dump him and go with Heyer? Same thing with Portis. He's got a HUGE cap number. Do we re-up with him or move on?

I just wish someone other than Vinny and Danny were making some of these decisions....

 

[fatness]

On SportsTalk 980 this morning they were going over whose contracts might be renegotiated, who might be kept, who might be moving on, etc. Just speculation.

Springs --- likely needs to renegoatiate to stay, and probably won't do it. Most difficult decision of all since he's wanted.

Jansen --- has to renegotiate to stay

Samuels --- has to renegotiate and likely will. Also had a stellar year.

Cartwright --- free agent this year, they want badly to keep him. "Core Redskin"

Lloyd --- goodbye

Collins --- free agent, not many other teams have interest in him, likely to stay as Campbell's backup

Daniels --- tough choice, depends on whether they want to get younger or not. Leader.

Griffin --- tough choice, depends on whether they want to get younger or not.

That's all I remember.

 

[dgreen]

Don't we lose a pick for Duckett? Or was that last year?

We do not have a fourth this year.

That was for Pete Kendall. Other than that, I think we have all our picks.

 

[Meast21]

Don't we lose a pick for Duckett? Or was that last year?

We do not have a fourth this year.

That was for Pete Kendall. Other than that, I think we have all our picks.

Yup, you are correct.

 

[dgreen]

Redman's analysis is spot on, but it doesn't take contracts and cap hits into account. For instance, Jansen has a huge number for an older, oft-injured RT (even if the injuries aren't his fault). While I'm sure he'll restructure, is it time to dump him and go with Heyer? Same thing with Portis. He's got a HUGE cap number. Do we re-up with him or move on?I just wish someone other than Vinny and Danny were making some of these decisions....

They may just be saying the right things, but all the player interviews in the parking lot yesterday as guys were packing their cars talked about the bond they formed and that many guys will do what it takes to keep this team together.I think Portis will renegotiate if he needs to. I can Jansen doing that too. Springs is the tough one, IMO. Last year, he refused to renegotiate. We'll see what happens there. I think they need him, especially since Rogers is no lock to be back by week 1 next year.I think the UFA are:CollinsCartwrightCaldwellMcCardellFabiniPrioleauSuishamFrostKeep (for the right price): Collins, Carwright, Caldwell, SuishamLet go: McCardell, Fabini, FrostDon't care: Prioleau

 

[southeastjerome]

Don't we lose a pick for Duckett? Or was that last year?

We do not have a fourth this year.

That was for Pete Kendall. Other than that, I think we have all our picks.

I thought Kendall cost a 5th rounder this year if he played 80% of the snaps and a 4th rounder in 2009 if he played more than 80% of the snaps?

The Jets will receive a fifth-round pick in 2008 if Kendall plays 80 percent of the snaps this year for Washington; if he plays more than that, the pick would be upgraded to a fourth-rounder in 2009.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2988171

 

[dgreen]

According the Warpath cap sheet, here are the UFA:

Todd Collins

Randall Godfrey

Pierson Prioleau

Derrick Frost

Ethan Albright

Mike Pucillo

Ross Tucker

Jason Fabini

David Macklin

Shaun Suisham

Ryan Boschetti

Nehemiah Broughton

Reche Caldwell

Keenan McCardell

Brian Kozlowski

Rick DeMulling

OmarStoutmire

Guys contributing more than $3M to the 2008 cap:

Player			  Cap (000)Clinton Portis		$8,875Jon Jansen			$8,833Randy Thomas		  $8,758Chris Samuels		 $8,250Shawn Springs		 $7,483Mark Brunell		  $6,516Marcus Washington	 $6,445Cornelius Griffin	 $6,166Santana Moss		  $5,883Andre Carter		  $4,987Brandon Lloyd		 $4,283Antwaan Randle El	 $4,153Laron Landry		  $3,853Phillip Daniels	   $3,757Casey Rabach		  $3,650London Fletcher	   $3,440Ladell Betts		  $3,405Todd Wade			 $3,047

They probably need to get at least 3 of the top 5 to renegotiate. Brunell will be cut. Lloyd will be cut, but I think he'll actually cost them money. They'll probably have to wait until after June 1 to cut him so it will on 2009 instead of 2008. They'll need some others in there to renegotiate, like Washington, Griffin, Moss, ARE, and Daniels. Wade needs to be renegotiated or cut.

 

[redman]

Redman's analysis is spot on, but it doesn't take contracts and cap hits into account. For instance, Jansen has a huge number for an older, oft-injured RT (even if the injuries aren't his fault). While I'm sure he'll restructure, is it time to dump him and go with Heyer? Same thing with Portis. He's got a HUGE cap number. Do we re-up with him or move on?

I just wish someone other than Vinny and Danny were making some of these decisions....

It was done that way on purpose as that gets pretty complex with different scenarios (e.g. can they keep Jansen if Portis doesn't restructure?). Obviously, there are players who need to restructure, but I was just aiming at who I thought could contribute next year and going forward based upon their performance and age primarily.

 

[redman]

Daniels --- tough choice, depends on whether they want to get younger or not. Leader.Griffin --- tough choice, depends on whether they want to get younger or not.

I want both of these guys back as long as it's for the right price (whatever that ends up meaning). Daniels in particular hasn't IMHO lost anything (remember that he's a natural RDE who moved over for Carter, and he's still a good run stopper and is as good as anyone at getting his hands up and deflecting passes. Griffin is slowing down, but when played for fewer plays in a rotation is fine. Fortunately Monty and Golston are there to keep the load off of him. Unless I'm blown away by a younger pickup at one or the other position, I think the team needs them back.

 

[DCThunder]

According the Warpath cap sheet, here are the UFA:

Todd Collins

Randall Godfrey

Pierson Prioleau

Derrick Frost

Ethan Albright

Mike Pucillo

Ross Tucker

Jason Fabini

David Macklin

Shaun Suisham

Ryan Boschetti

Nehemiah Broughton

Reche Caldwell

Keenan McCardell

Brian Kozlowski

Rick DeMulling

OmarStoutmire

Guys contributing more than $3M to the 2008 cap:

Player Cap (000)Clinton Portis $8,875Jon Jansen $8,833Randy Thomas $8,758Chris Samuels $8,250Shawn Springs $7,483Mark Brunell $6,516Marcus Washington $6,445Cornelius Griffin $6,166Santana Moss $5,883Andre Carter $4,987Brandon Lloyd $4,283Antwaan Randle El $4,153Laron Landry $3,853Phillip Daniels $3,757Casey Rabach $3,650London Fletcher $3,440Ladell Betts $3,405Todd Wade $3,047They probably need to get at least 3 of the top 5 to renegotiate. Brunell will be cut. Lloyd will be cut, but I think he'll actually cost them money. They'll probably have to wait until after June 1 to cut him so it will on 2009 instead of 2008. They'll need some others in there to renegotiate, like Washington, Griffin, Moss, ARE, and Daniels. Wade needs to be renegotiated or cut.

Interesting that you've got over $17M in cap space on the right side of the OL and that both missed most of the season. Both Jansen and Thomas have to do some restructuring.I'd also think seriously about whacking Santana Moss, and as much as I love him as a receiver, he did drop an awful lot of balls this season.

 

[redman]

I'd also think seriously about whacking Santana Moss, and as much as I love him as a receiver, he did drop an awful lot of balls this season.

No way. He had a bad year, but they have nothing remotely resembling a playmaker without him. He's an elite WR when he's healthy. To me you build with him, which is what I'm sure the team will do. Doesn't Taylor affect their cap this year too? Isn't it as if they cut him from the roster? I don't think it's a huge hit as it was still his rookie contract, but I think they do take a hit for him too.

 

[dgreen]

I'd also think seriously about whacking Santana Moss, and as much as I love him as a receiver, he did drop an awful lot of balls this season.

No way. He had a bad year, but they have nothing remotely resembling a playmaker without him. He's an elite WR when he's healthy. To me you build with him, which is what I'm sure the team will do.

I agree. I'd actually like to see them spend some money on a WR this year. I'd like them to address the OL and DL some, but I think they should be willing to spend for a legit WR1 or WR2.

Doesn't Taylor affect their cap this year too? Isn't it as if they cut him from the roster? I don't think it's a huge hit as it was still his rookie contract, but I think they do take a hit for him too.

From that sheet linked above, it looks like he'll count $1,913 in 2008 to be on the roster or $4,190 to be released. They could wait until after June 1 and it would cost them $2,095 in 2009.

 

[southeastjerome]

I'd also think seriously about whacking Santana Moss, and as much as I love him as a receiver, he did drop an awful lot of balls this season.

No way. He had a bad year, but they have nothing remotely resembling a playmaker without him. He's an elite WR when he's healthy. To me you build with him, which is what I'm sure the team will do.

I agree. I'd actually like to see them spend some money on a WR this year. I'd like them to address the OL and DL some, but I think they should be willing to spend for a legit WR1 or WR2.

I'm with you, I would not want to get rid of Moss by any means. I'm not sure I'd be happy with shelling out some serious cash to a WR. The open market is pretty thin and guys like Berrian, Hackett and Bryant Johnson figure to all cash in with big deals since they're pretty much the best of what is available. I like Hackett, but he's seemingly always hurt. The way ARE played towards the end of the year, I'm not sure that Hackett or Johnson are big upgrades of him, if at all. Plus, how could we possibly tie up more big money into the WR position? I say resign Caldwell or bring in someone like Brandon Stoakley. And spend a day 1 pick on a WR. Hopefully one of the guys that spent much of 2007 injured, like Sweed or Doucet, fall in the 2nd round. Otherwise a guy like Manningham is being projected as a mid 2nd rounder right now too.

 

[TeddyKGB]

Having trouble letting this season go, even when they were clearly outplayed for about 50 minutes Saturday. Very important offseason ahead. Nice to have an almost full complement of picks going into the draft; hopefully it stays that way through the draft.

Early word is Briggs is on the radar again.

 

[fatness]

Player			  Cap (000)Clinton Portis		$8,875	will renegotiateJon Jansen			$8,833   will renegotiateRandy Thomas		  $8,758   will renegotiateChris Samuels		 $8,250   will renegotiateShawn Springs		 $7,483   won'tMark Brunell		  $6,516   cutMarcus Washington	 $6,445  Cornelius Griffin	 $6,166   will be asked to renegotiateSantana Moss		  $5,883   will be asked to renegotiate   Andre Carter		  $4,987   Brandon Lloyd		 $4,283   cutAntwaan Randle El	 $4,153   Laron Landry		  $3,853   Phillip Daniels	   $3,757   will be asked to renegotiateCasey Rabach		  $3,650London Fletcher	   $3,440Ladell Betts		  $3,405Todd Wade			 $3,047

Just my guesses

 

[fatness]

Portis Is Open to Restructuring Contract to Stay in Washington

The Redskins have renegotiated as many as 12 contracts some offseasons, and at $20 million over the cap are certain to continue the practice before free agency begins in March. Veterans Shawn Springs, Marcus Washington, Cornelius Griffin, Santana Moss, Jon Jansen, Randy Thomas, Chris Samuels and Brandon Lloyd also have huge spikes in salary, or hefty bonuses set for 2008, and although most will be restructured and retained, many within the team believe Springs and Lloyd will not be back.

 

[fatness]

Pretty interesting blog post by Rich Tandler in LaCanfora's blog space.

Despite all of this, for the past four years--actually for most of the last 16 years--the Redskins have found themselves in late November with the mop in their hands, wishing wistfully that they could be mingling with royalty. Two of the past three years they have made it to the palace only to find themselves ejected and sent back to working the mop well before midnight.

Like the social worker who might look at Cinderella's life choices, what the Redskins need to do to be in charge of the palace is study the choices they have made that have left them with a losing record in late November every year. What led them to think that committing large chunks of cap money to Adam Archuleta and Brandon Lloyd was a good idea? Were the issues that led to blowing numerous halftime leads more related to play calling or to execution? When the issues are identified, how do they go about fixing them? Can the offense be truly effective with all of its receivers standing under six feet or do they need a big body in the mix? What needs to be done to ensure better choices regarding in-game management such as using timeouts? Has the choice not to employ a general manager served the team well? And, even if the answer to that last question is "yes", considering that Gibbs likely has a maximum of three years left as coach, will the present structure be effective going into the future?

 

[fatness]

Gibbs isn't saying whether he'll coach next season

So much for Joe Gibbs coming back next season with Jason Campbell as his starting quarterback. After Gibbs' performance on Monday, neither of those former certainties seem certain. The coach was as evasive as could be Monday when discussing his future with the Washington Redskins. Gibbs declined to say whether he would return for the final year of his contract - or even if he wanted to return - and said the matter would hinge on talks with owner Dan Snyder. "Everybody's situation will be taken into context here - including mine, and my future here and all that," Gibbs said. "We're going to start on it hot and heavy tonight."

Gibbs dropped a clue or two along the way that indicated he would be back, but he clearly left the door open that this might be the end.

Gibbs said he wants to re-sign Collins, and he left the door open that Campbell will have competition at next season's training camp. "What Jason knows is that with everything we invested in him, he's got a great future with the Redskins," Gibbs said. "If it's competing with somebody, I don't think he worries about it."

Of course, whether Gibbs will be Campbell's coach is an open question. At least Gibbs did promise that he wouldn't take long making up his mind. "Well go fast," Gibbs said, "because we know time is real important in this."

Transcript of press conferenceMy guesses: Gibbs wants a raise, so he wouldn't commit to coming back before meeting with Snyder. Gibbs wants Collins back, so he wouldn't say out loud that Campbell already has the starting gig locked up.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Early word is Briggs is on the radar again.

Why becuase of Rocky's injury

 

[redman]

Early word is Briggs is on the radar again.

Why becuase of Rocky's injury

And Marcus Washington's age and recent injury problems. It's a good move if it's for the right price.

 

[Bizkiteer]

As for Briggs, supposedly is one of the worst kept secrets is that he will be a 49er this offseason.

 

[dgreen]

Early word is Briggs is on the radar again.

Why becuase of Rocky's injury

And Marcus Washington's age and recent injury problems. It's a good move if it's for the right price.

FWIW, Gibbs mentioned in his PC last night that Rocky could be ready for the beginning of 2008.

 

[DCThunder]

AP is reporting that Gibbs is resigning. I know there's another thread, but the real speculation on replacements et al should be in here.

 

[Marvelous]

AP is reporting that Gibbs is resigning. I know there's another thread, but the real speculation on replacements et al should be in here.

My guess is they will go for continuity and Gregg Williams will be name HC. I don't think it will be Sanders since it is still not clear that his offense is that much better than anyone else's offense.Joe Bugel will probably also retire. Four years ago, Bugel said he would only go back to coaching for Gibbs.If they start from scratch, Snyder will probably go hard for Bill Cowher.

 

[dgreen]

Gregggggggggg has to be the Vegas favorite. The players will want him, I assume.

I'd like to see someone else brought in, but I also don't want them to have to start all over with schemes and playbooks.

 

[(HULK)]

 

[dgreen]

It will be interesting to hear the players react. Watching interviews leaving Redskins Park, it didn't seem like any of the players thought this was coming.

 

[dgreen]

Link

Joe Gibbs Resigns as Redskins Head Coach

Redskins coach Joe Gibbs is resigning, according to Redskins sources. The team is planning a news conference this afternoon to discuss the Hall of Famer's decision to leave as both coach and team president.

Gibbs will stay with the Redskins organization in some capacity, perhaps as a consultant to team owner Dan Snyder, team officials said.

No decision has been made on a replacement for Gibbs, who has spent a total 16 years with the organization in two stints. A process will be put in place, team sources said, to choose one.

Gibbs, who was inducted into the football Hall of Fame after guiding the team to three Super Bowls in his first 12-year term as coach, enjoyed far less success since coming out of retirement four years ago to a five-year, $27.5 million contract. Two of his three losing seasons as an NFL head coach have come since 2004.

While the Redskins ended 2007 with a 9-7 record and a trip to the playoffs, it was also emotionally trying for the 67-year-old, who had to lead the team through the aftermath of star safety Sean Taylor's murder.

In a season wrap-up press conference yesterday, Gibbs seemed to leave his options open, even though he has a year remaining on his current deal with Snyder.

Gibbs' decision leaves in transition a team that began the season with mixed success on the field, was devastated by Taylor's killing, but ended with a sense of momentum and potential after a four-game winning streak. They lost in Saturday's playoff round to the Seattle Seahawks.

Snyder has a track record of spending liberally on his coaching staff, and the search for Gibbs' replacement will be closely watched.

Current assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams will likely be a strong candidate. Several veteran players contacted in the last few days said that if Gibbs did leave -- a development they regarded as unlikely -- they felt Williams should inherit the team. Under his current contract he would receive $1 million if he is passed over for the job.

Assistant head coach-offense Al Saunders has previous NFL experience, but his management of the team's offense has been criticized since he arrived in Washington for the 2006 season.

Former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher has been approached by several NFL teams, but insisted he is taking a two year sabbatical from the NFL. However two NFL general managers contacted in recent days said they would expect the Redskins to contact him in the event Gibbs left.

 

[dgreen]

Link

Bye Joe

Everyone here at Redskins Park is pretty stunned. One staff member who was in the room at 9 am when Joe Gibbs informed the coaches of his decision said: "I am shocked and numb." The strong sentiment from the playters and people inside here I spoke to today is that Gregg Williams should get the job, and that's coming from offensive and defensive players alike.

One former Redskin, who speaks daily to many of his former teammates, said: "It has to be Gregg, there's no doubt about it. If they go from outside guys will be pissed. Unless they want to tear up the team and go with a different group of guys, it has to be Gregg."

Spoke to some people close to Russ Grimm, a former Redskin and longtime esteemed NFL assistant, who said that his current team, Arizona, had not been contacted by the Redskins at this point. Bill Cowher, former Super Bowl coach with Pittsburgh, will be a name everyone talks about as well.

Jason Reid just spent some time alone with starting WR Antwaan Randle El, who played on Cowher championship team in Pittsburgh. Randle El voiced strong support for Gregg Williams: I want the best coach for the job and Gregg is certainly at the top of the list, no doubt. I would love to see him get it just cause we've gotten going with the crew that we have here. I would love to see Gregg keep it and let's keep our offensive coordinators. Let's keep all that intact."

Gibbs would commit to virtually nothing during his press conference Monday, but did say that he wanted to retain the coaching staff. As most are in their final year of the contract - and some, like LB Coach Kirk Olivadati, have contacts that are expiring - there would have to be a round of contract extensions in that case.

Spoke to the agents for several prominant coaches and coaching candidates this morning who said they all believed that Williams would get the job, but that was just their reading of the situation and did not come from conversations with Gibnbs or Snyder.

Snyder loves Joe and no doubt Gibbs's voice will carry heavy weight with ownership as they sort through this process.

 

[phrozen]

As I stated in the other thread I am not sold on Williams being the heir-apparent at this point. There is a good amount of coaching talent out there and I think other picks could make a bigger media "splash" which we all know Snyder loves.

 

[buster c]

the longer it takes to name a successor, the less chance it will be Greggg Williams. Otherwise, they'd go ahead and name him already.

why do I have visions of Richie Pettibone, circa 1993, with a Bob's Big Boy menu attached to his belt?

 

[phrozen]

the longer it takes to name a successor, the less chance it will be Greggg Williams. Otherwise, they'd go ahead and name him already.why do I have visions of Richie Pettibone, circa 1993, with a Bob's Big Boy menu attached to his belt?

They can't name Williams right away. Let us not forget the Rooney rule here.

 

[dgreen]

the longer it takes to name a successor, the less chance it will be Greggg Williams. Otherwise, they'd go ahead and name him already.why do I have visions of Richie Pettibone, circa 1993, with a Bob's Big Boy menu attached to his belt?

They can't name Williams right away. Let us not forget the Rooney rule here.

I think they'll interview Coach Janky Spanky today.

 

[Lowen1]

the longer it takes to name a successor, the less chance it will be Greggg Williams. Otherwise, they'd go ahead and name him already.why do I have visions of Richie Pettibone, circa 1993, with a Bob's Big Boy menu attached to his belt?

Rooney rule says they have to interview a minority candidate - so they just can't name GW the coach. Regardless, my choice is to have GW as head coach, with Saunders as Offensive Coach - lets unleash both of them. Attacking, highpower offense and an attacking, run stuffing, blitz crazy defense.

 

[Ripleys]

I would love for Coach Janky Spanky to get the nod!

 

[fatness]

I don't think Gregg William is a lock here, or even necessarily the best choice. Players have been somewhat uphappy with him at times in the past (end of last year for example), and he did poorly as a head coach the first time around, leaving few defenders at that time. I'd be surprised if they did not interview Cowher.

Perhaps more importantly, this leaves personnel matters in the hands of Snyder and Cerrato. That has to change, or they'll continue to #### up.

 

[DCThunder]

Aren't there exceptions to the Rooney Rule? IIRC, Snyder didn't interview any minority candidated before he hired Joe 4 years ago. Maybe there's a Hall of Fame exception.

 

[Marvelous]

Aren't there exceptions to the Rooney Rule? IIRC, Snyder didn't interview any minority candidated before he hired Joe 4 years ago. Maybe there's a Hall of Fame exception.

Ray Rhodes was one of the first interviews 4 years ago. And the word was that Snyder liked Rhodes a lot.

 

[DCThunder]

Aren't there exceptions to the Rooney Rule? IIRC, Snyder didn't interview any minority candidated before he hired Joe 4 years ago. Maybe there's a Hall of Fame exception.

Ray Rhodes was one of the first interviews 4 years ago. And the word was that Snyder liked Rhodes a lot.

I thought that was when they hired Marty or Spurrier. Remember Rhodes was the DC for one year for Spurrier.

 

[redman]

the longer it takes to name a successor, the less chance it will be Greggg Williams. Otherwise, they'd go ahead and name him already.why do I have visions of Richie Pettibone, circa 1993, with a Bob's Big Boy menu attached to his belt?

They can't name Williams right away. Let us not forget the Rooney rule here.

I think they'll interview Coach Janky Spanky today.

 

[redman]

I don't think Gregg William is a lock here, or even necessarily the best choice. Players have been somewhat uphappy with him at times in the past (end of last year for example), and he did poorly as a head coach the first time around, leaving few defenders at that time. I'd be surprised if they did not interview Cowher.Perhaps more importantly, this leaves personnel matters in the hands of Snyder and Cerrato. That has to change, or they'll continue to #### up.

The disastisfaction with Williams last year came from one guy - Archuleta - in an anonymous article. Williams completely reformed that defense after a meticulous review of game film exactly one year ago, and by all accounts did a tremendous job. Don't lend too much credence to that attack article.

Aren't there exceptions to the Rooney Rule? IIRC, Snyder didn't interview any minority candidated before he hired Joe 4 years ago. Maybe there's a Hall of Fame exception.

Ray Rhodes was one of the first interviews 4 years ago. And the word was that Snyder liked Rhodes a lot.

Ray Rhodes IIRC has serious health (diabetes?) problems and would not be a good coaching candidate for that reason.

 

[fatness]

The disastisfaction with Williams last year came from one guy - Archuleta - in an anonymous article. Williams completely reformed that defense after a meticulous review of game film exactly one year ago, and by all accounts did a tremendous job. Don't lend too much credence to that attack article.

I wasn't referring to that at all. There was other behind-the-scenes talk about Williams at the end of the year by players who wanted to remain anonymous.

 

[fatness]

In Seattle, less than an hour after the Redskins lost, Williams told me, "I have had a front row seat at watching a master hold his team together."

Maybe this year has changed Williams.