***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[BuddyKnuckles]

and the 21th pick?

Lisp?

now thath funny

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

not to be a total d!ck...but well, its what i do...

Did Ralph Wilson orchestrate this trade? Seriously? A top 3 LT in the NFL for a late round #1 and some filler picks? WTF are the Bills thinking?

 

[SouthJersey]

It's hard for me right now not to be giddy. We just replaced two tackles with younger upgrades in the same offseason and didn't have to rely on a rookie 1st rounder to do it; that's unheard of. Wow.

And this is why I can never understand how fans can bash the front offense. Great move IMO. If you would have told me last year that we would be getting rid of Runyan and Thomas and our O line would be better BEFORE the draft even happens....

It's funny how you won't hear a word now from BK or any of the other so-called fans when they make a move like this. I would have rather them get Boldin then Peters, only b/c of the way Peters played and handled himself last year, but you can't argue with this move. They also still have a boatload of picks to play around with on draft day. If they get Moreno at 21 and a decent TE prospect in round 2 like Cook, you have to like what they're doing.

Actually D Bag, i just came in here to say that i am officially exhaling. This was a steal. I still think they need a WR, because you can give a QB 4 or 400 seconds to throw, but if no ones open, then no one's open.Anyway, if they can get Moreno at 21, and then somehow, some way get Boldin or Edwards...i will officially be excited for the season.PS - Get a Friggin clue before you try to bash me. I may stir the pot in here, but i am reasonable when its called for

Getting Boldin or Edwards without giving up the 21st pick is just kidding yourself.

 

[eagles2007]

i don't feel great about this. i've seen enough negative about this guy's 2008 to be concerned. and there's no way they get boldin now.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

It's hard for me right now not to be giddy. We just replaced two tackles with younger upgrades in the same offseason and didn't have to rely on a rookie 1st rounder to do it; that's unheard of. Wow.

And this is why I can never understand how fans can bash the front offense. Great move IMO. If you would have told me last year that we would be getting rid of Runyan and Thomas and our O line would be better BEFORE the draft even happens....

It's funny how you won't hear a word now from BK or any of the other so-called fans when they make a move like this. I would have rather them get Boldin then Peters, only b/c of the way Peters played and handled himself last year, but you can't argue with this move. They also still have a boatload of picks to play around with on draft day. If they get Moreno at 21 and a decent TE prospect in round 2 like Cook, you have to like what they're doing.

Actually D Bag, i just came in here to say that i am officially exhaling. This was a steal. I still think they need a WR, because you can give a QB 4 or 400 seconds to throw, but if no ones open, then no one's open.Anyway, if they can get Moreno at 21, and then somehow, some way get Boldin or Edwards...i will officially be excited for the season.

PS - Get a Friggin clue before you try to bash me. I may stir the pot in here, but i am reasonable when its called for

And this is why you get bashed. NO offense BUT... you are just another Eagles fan who believes the NFL is a fantasy football league and the Eagles should get every player imaginable. You are the guy that calls 610 and bashes the Eagles because they didnt get a WR over the past 7 years when if you honestly look at it, there was only one stud available and they went and got him. You love the Flyers but know nothing about hockey etc etc, you are Mr. 610. Your Eagle bashing is very much like your love for Kimbo Slice, old, stale and pretty much unwarranted. However you are an expert at fishing and for that you do get the Babe Winkleman Award for the Official Eagles Threads!!!

 

[Jason Wood]

We are fine @ WR

The Eagles were fine at WR in the Super Bowl year. The Eagles need another

81 not another 36. Especially with a 65/70% pass play calling coach

Any team could use Terrell Owens without the headaches. He's an elite, HOF playmaker. But few teams have that luxury, and fewer still have needed an elite WR to win a Super Bowl. All that said, the Eagles are always an effective, productive passing team. That's never our worry. Here are the league-wide totals for the last three years [i.e., the post TO years for Philly]:

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/d...att%2Brsh%2Brec

YRs TEAM CMP ATT PYD Y/A FD PTD INT FANT PT1 2006--2008 NE 1069 1648 12244 7.43 616 96 32 3869.702 2006--2008 DAL 980 1585 12350 7.79 585 91 59 3647.803 2006--2008 IND 1110 1691 12750 7.54 675 90 35 3669.404 2006--2008 NO 1227 1869 14114 7.55 677 89 49 3887.005 2006--2008 ARI 1096 1762 13003 7.38 635 80 53 3409.056 2006--2008 SD 880 1413 10586 7.49 521 80 35 3496.007 2006--2008 PHI 1034 1726 12366 7.16 580 78 40 3506.508 2006--2008 GB 1075 1748 12439 7.12 579 76 46 3383.759 2006--2008 PIT 898 1471 11038 7.50 561 76 51 3304.9010 2006--2008 SEA 925 1575 10379 6.59 524 74 50 3033.8511 2006--2008 NYG 901 1556 9972 6.41 511 70 48 3210.9012 2006--2008 DEN 967 1588 11292 7.11 568 66 51 3205.2013 2006--2008 CIN 1003 1612 10885 6.75 562 65 48 2959.9514 2006--2008 CHI 912 1608 10349 6.44 487 62 57 2890.0515 2006--2008 JAX 890 1450 10188 7.03 516 60 34 3176.5016 2006--2008 HOU 1042 1564 11441 7.32 564 59 53 3072.8517 2006--2008 DET 1020 1694 11716 6.92 561 58 64 2890.9018 2006--2008 KC 915 1550 10131 6.54 517 58 48 2816.1519 2006--2008 CLE 860 1543 9647 6.25 475 55 65 2617.7520 2006--2008 ATL 822 1405 9691 6.90 455 55 42 2943.5521 2006--2008 STL 998 1686 11171 6.63 548 54 54 2867.3522 2006--2008 NYJ 969 1526 10189 6.68 523 54 58 2848.8523 2006--2008 CAR 855 1458 9695 6.65 462 53 45 2855.7524 2006--2008 SF 842 1470 9308 6.33 450 52 52 2615.5025 2006--2008 WAS 911 1506 10088 6.70 511 51 27 2925.8026 2006--2008 BAL 929 1514 9926 6.56 503 50 40 2837.4027 2006--2008 TB 967 1587 10360 6.53 483 50 39 2802.9028 2006--2008 MIA 990 1639 10640 6.49 527 48 42 2834.8029 2006--2008 MIN 846 1422 9521 6.70 453 46 51 2851.5530 2006--2008 BUF 840 1354 9176 6.78 442 44 43 2537.2031 2006--2008 OAK 745 1354 8387 6.19 403 37 54 2300.7532 2006--2008 TEN 780 1364 8733 6.40 451 35 44 2626.85We don't NEED an upgrade at WR. We actually would be much better off upgrading our TE position, where we field a substantively below average group of receiving options. That is where we would get more bang for our buck.Would I LIKE an elite WR? Sure, who wouldn't? I also would like Julius Peppers and DeMarcus Ware.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Actually D Bag, i just came in here to say that i am officially exhaling. This was a steal. I still think they need a WR, because you can give a QB 4 or 400 seconds to throw, but if no ones open, then no one's open.

Take it easy.... this is still the Shark Pool and you're supposed to not resort to name-calling.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Here are the details I've been hearing: The Bills initally asked for a 1st and 2nd next year. They were told 'thanks, but no thanks'. The Birds countered with a 1st and 4th next year. The Bills countered with a 1st and this year's third. The Eagles countered with the deal we have now.

As for the draft, trading up to 8 seems to be out the window. It would not surprise me if they moved back A BIT (not as far back as previous years). They are still looking at a DE (can't say who) and they believe he can be had a bit later than their 21st pick.

 

[drdgreenlove]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

"lacks ideal bulk for a 4-3 defensive end."

"Earned the MAC's Vern Smith Leadership Award (league MVP) in 2007 and 2008. Earned a 3.0 GPA during the 2007 spring semester"

Rated as exceptional pass rusher by Scounts Inc.

not sure why we would want a DE in the first/early 2nd round. Cole is not going anywhere. Then we have Abirmiri who may finally be healthy, Clemons, and Bryan Smith. Unless they think Smith won't develop...then again if you say it I belive it... But if Larry English is the player they want, I really hope they trade back for him!

youtube highlights-

much less likely I would guess\ Connor Barwin from Cincinnati (Trent Cole, Stewart Bradley)? but he is graded much second round material. The other top DEs are all projected to go before we pick 21st.

Too mnay clues DH but thanks!!!

the only other possibility is Everette Brown from FSU is the Eagles think he will slip

 

[SouthJersey]

Here are the details I've been hearing: The Bills initally asked for a 1st and 2nd next year. They were told 'thanks, but no thanks'. The Birds countered with a 1st and 4th next year. The Bills countered with a 1st and this year's third. The Eagles countered with the deal we have now.As for the draft, trading up to 8 seems to be out the window. It would not surprise me if they moved back A BIT (not as far back as previous years). They are still looking at a DE (can't say who) and they believe he can be had a bit later than their 21st pick.

Sidbury?

 

[JetMaxx]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

That's the name that came to my mind. He would fit the criteria mentioned by DH more so than Ayers, Brown, Orakpo, etc. That said, I would be VERY disappointed if they pass on Moreno to trade back and get a DE.

 

[zenzephyros]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

That's the name that came to my mind. He would fit the criteria mentioned by DH more so than Ayers, Brown, Orakpo, etc. That said, I would be VERY disappointed if they pass on Moreno to trade back and get a DE.

I agree, but I highly doubt Moreno will be there at 21. Philly will have to use some of those late round picks to move a couple spots to get Moreno.

 

[phillyfan72]

It's hard for me right now not to be giddy. We just replaced two tackles with younger upgrades in the same offseason and didn't have to rely on a rookie 1st rounder to do it; that's unheard of. Wow.

And this is why I can never understand how fans can bash the front offense. Great move IMO. If you would have told me last year that we would be getting rid of Runyan and Thomas and our O line would be better BEFORE the draft even happens....

It's funny how you won't hear a word now from BK or any of the other so-called fans when they make a move like this. I would have rather them get Boldin then Peters, only b/c of the way Peters played and handled himself last year, but you can't argue with this move. They also still have a boatload of picks to play around with on draft day. If they get Moreno at 21 and a decent TE prospect in round 2 like Cook, you have to like what they're doing.

Actually D Bag, i just came in here to say that i am officially exhaling. This was a steal. I still think they need a WR, because you can give a QB 4 or 400 seconds to throw, but if no ones open, then no one's open.Anyway, if they can get Moreno at 21, and then somehow, some way get Boldin or Edwards...i will officially be excited for the season.PS - Get a Friggin clue before you try to bash me. I may stir the pot in here, but i am reasonable when its called for

That's the exact type of response I expected from you, BK. You can rip on the FO and real fans all you want, then when you get called out, you resort to childish name calling. Nice. Are we supposed to get excited that you like this move? Get a clue.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

That's the name that came to my mind. He would fit the criteria mentioned by DH more so than Ayers, Brown, Orakpo, etc. That said, I would be VERY disappointed if they pass on Moreno to trade back and get a DE.

I agree, but I highly doubt Moreno will be there at 21. Philly will have to use some of those late round picks to move a couple spots to get Moreno.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but take a look at the various mock drafts out there. I don't see anyone mocking a RB before Pick 21.Who would you see taking a RB in the Top 20 picks?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So with the OT addition of Peters, the top 2 needs are RB and TE. I dare say that WR and DB would come next (despite those who say that we don't need WR).

I found 3 scenarios here, and would like to know what breakdowns would be most favorable:

Running Back-Rd 1: Knowshon Moreno? Rd 2: Rashad Jennings? Rd 3: Ramses Barden?
Tight End-Rd 1: Brandon Pettigrew? Rd 2: Hakeem Nicks? Rd 3: Javon Ringer?
Wide Receiver-Rd 1: Kenny Britt? Rd 2: LeSean McCoy? 3: Chase Coffman?

 

[Domination]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

That's the name that came to my mind. He would fit the criteria mentioned by DH more so than Ayers, Brown, Orakpo, etc. That said, I would be VERY disappointed if they pass on Moreno to trade back and get a DE.

I agree, but I highly doubt Moreno will be there at 21. Philly will have to use some of those late round picks to move a couple spots to get Moreno.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but take a look at the various mock drafts out there. I don't see anyone mocking a RB before Pick 21.Who would you see taking a RB in the Top 20 picks?

I may be in the minority here, but if I was going to take a RB at #21, it would be Beanie Wells. I think although he has had some injury concerns, he has all the tools to be an elite RB in the NFL. All of that being said, I would not take one at #21.

 

[Domination]

So with the OT addition of Peters, the top 2 needs are RB and TE. I dare say that WR and DB would come next (despite those who say that we don't need WR).

I found 3 scenarios here, and would like to know what breakdowns would be most favorable:

Running Back-Rd 1: Knowshon Moreno? Rd 2: Rashad Jennings? Rd 3: Ramses Barden?
Tight End-Rd 1: Brandon Pettigrew? Rd 2: Hakeem Nicks? Rd 3: Javon Ringer?
Wide Receiver-Rd 1: Kenny Britt? Rd 2: LeSean McCoy? 3: Chase Coffman?

Jeff,You don't think that we could use a DE? Also, you don't really expect them to use their first 3 picks on skill position players do you? I fully expect only one position player to be taken in the first 3 rds.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

That's the name that came to my mind. He would fit the criteria mentioned by DH more so than Ayers, Brown, Orakpo, etc. That said, I would be VERY disappointed if they pass on Moreno to trade back and get a DE.

I agree, but I highly doubt Moreno will be there at 21. Philly will have to use some of those late round picks to move a couple spots to get Moreno.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but take a look at the various mock drafts out there. I don't see anyone mocking a RB before Pick 21.Who would you see taking a RB in the Top 20 picks?

I may be in the minority here, but if I was going to take a RB at #21, it would be Beanie Wells. I think although he has had some injury concerns, he has all the tools to be an elite RB in the NFL. All of that being said, I would not take one at #21.

Fair enough, what would you do?

 

[gonzobill5]

If Ocho Cinco is available, a big if, I think he fits the Eagles.He's 31, big deal. The Eagles are trying to win THIS year. If they get a Super Bowl this year, who cares if he's in Philly in 3 years. His age matters to a younger team, but the Eagles window is now.Trade cost would HAVE to be less than Braylon and Anquan.Already under contract. Edwards and Boldin would both need new deals.I think he'd be a great teammate on a winning team.

I would suspect Chad still carries a first round price tag - didn't they turn down two #1's last year from Washington? Even if its only for a 2nd rounder, I don't want him anywhere near this team. Desean needs some good influences around him, as he looks poised to become a diva himself. Also, I think the phrase "built to win now" doesn't apply to the eagles. McNabb and Westbrook aside - this is a very young team. The FO thinks it has McNabb's heir already on the team, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they land Moreno @ 21.

 

[gonzobill5]

After adding two offensive linemen and a fullback, you would suspect the Eagles were planning on running the ball more (and hopefully more effectively) in 2009. But considering that Peters' strength is pass blocking and that Leonard Weaver is a very good pass catching fullback I have to wonder if these moves are more forward thinking.

Could this be in preparation for the Kevin Kolb era????

 

[eagles2007]

After adding two offensive linemen and a fullback, you would suspect the Eagles were planning on running the ball more (and hopefully more effectively) in 2009. But considering that Peters' strength is pass blocking and that Leonard Weaver is a very good pass catching fullback I have to wonder if these moves are more forward thinking.

Could this be in preparation for the Kevin Kolb era????

i'm rolling on the floor laughing. a leopard doesn't change his spots.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So with the OT addition of Peters, the top 2 needs are RB and TE. I dare say that WR and DB would come next (despite those who say that we don't need WR).

I found 3 scenarios here, and would like to know what breakdowns would be most favorable:

Running Back-Rd 1: Knowshon Moreno? Rd 2: Rashad Jennings? Rd 3: Ramses Barden?
Tight End-Rd 1: Brandon Pettigrew? Rd 2: Hakeem Nicks? Rd 3: Javon Ringer?
Wide Receiver-Rd 1: Kenny Britt? Rd 2: LeSean McCoy? 3: Chase Coffman?

Jeff,You don't think that we could use a DE? Also, you don't really expect them to use their first 3 picks on skill position players do you? I fully expect only one position player to be taken in the first 3 rds.

Granted this looks way more like a fantasy draft than an NFL draft (or an Andy Reid draft, for that matter) - but my question is simple - of the 3 scenarios above, which would you prefer?I doubt they go 3x on skill spots, but the question is still a pretty good one.

As for DE, I don't know that there is a game-breaking DE in this draft that they can get, so I'm fine with keeping the status quo and rotating the DL like last year. Several younger players need to step up, but the Eagles weren't that bad at sacks last year.

 

[Domination]

DH- So you are saying they like Larry English from NIU

I agree, but I highly doubt Moreno will be there at 21. Philly will have to use some of those late round picks to move a couple spots to get Moreno.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but take a look at the various mock drafts out there. I don't see anyone mocking a RB before Pick 21.Who would you see taking a RB in the Top 20 picks?

I may be in the minority here, but if I was going to take a RB at #21, it would be Beanie Wells. I think although he has had some injury concerns, he has all the tools to be an elite RB in the NFL. All of that being said, I would not take one at #21.

Fair enough, what would you do?

In all honest, I would try to see if that would be enough to get Peppers. I think if you added him to our defense, it would allow for less blitzing and that the others on the dline would show vast improvement due to the focus that would be put on him. That being said, I do not see that happening either.I still think that the defense could use one more good DE to allow others to play their respective positions. I would look at E Brown if he was still there, or trade back into maybe the early 2nd. At which point I would take the one DE that has the most potential of becoming an elite player in Michael Johnson. Even with all of his flaws, I think in a defense that would let him constantly get after the QB, he could finally live up to his potential.

As far as the RB position, I just have a feeling that they will end up taking Javon Ringer.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Eagles signed Peters to a 6 years extension worth $60 Million.

Link

The Bills traded Peters to the Eagles on Friday rather than risk another offseason holdout from their disgruntled two-time Pro Bowl left tackle. The Eagles then signed Peters to a six-year deal that could keep him in Philadelphia through 2014.

NFL Network's Michael Lombardi reports that Peters' six-year extension is worth $60 million, with $24 million guaranteed.

The Bills received the 28th overall pick -- the second of the Eagles' two first-round picks -- and a fourth-round selection in next week's NFL draft. Buffalo also acquired Philadelphia's sixth-round pick in the 2010 draft, NFL.com's Steve Wyche reports.

"Jason Peters is the best left tackle in football," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "He is a powerful and athletic tackle, and I have admired his play over the last few years on film. I have always believed that success in the NFL is derived from the strong play of the offensive and defensive lines. This offseason, we have added two young, top-flight offensive linemen in Jason and Stacy Andrews."

 

[Jason Wood]

So with the OT addition of Peters, the top 2 needs are RB and TE. I dare say that WR and DB would come next (despite those who say that we don't need WR).

I found 3 scenarios here, and would like to know what breakdowns would be most favorable:

Running Back-Rd 1: Knowshon Moreno? Rd 2: Rashad Jennings? Rd 3: Ramses Barden?

Tight End-Rd 1: Brandon Pettigrew? Rd 2: Hakeem Nicks? Rd 3: Javon Ringer?
Wide Receiver-Rd 1: Kenny Britt? Rd 2: LeSean McCoy? 3: Chase Coffman?

Hey Good Buddy, I want to respond to this question but I want to respond in two ways.First, respond based on the specific three scenarios you set forth.

Second, respond based on the POSITIONS you spell out, but assuming I can choose different options at each position.

If we're looking at the three SPECIFIC situations you have here, this one is SUPER EASY for me.

1) Britt

2) McCoy

3) Coffman

You are highlighting three guys I'm really high on. I love Britt, and think he's more capable of being a WR1 than Cec or Bloom do. I know he's a bit of a body catcher but the dude has strength, is great in the red zone and has the swagger you want to see from a top dawg. I also love McCoy and think he could be a real feature back, and agree he'll probably be there in the 2nd. And while Coffman isn't all world, and is a liability in blocking, he's a natural pass catcher and would be an immediate upgrade over what we have.

Just touching quickly on the two other options you set forth:

Option 1 -- I really dislike this option. Not because of Moreno [Obviously I like him] but because I don't like Barden at all and also don't see him being a 3rd rounder. I figure Barden gets grabbed in the 5th round or so, he's unbelievably raw and hasn't impressed in the bowl/workout scene as far as I can tell. Also not sure why we would draft a 2nd RB in the 2nd round if we took Moreno, and to boot Jennings isn't a 2nd rounder IMHO, he'll be a 3rd/4th rounder.

Option 2 -- I love Pettigrew, think he's the only true dominant two way TE in this draft. BUT, he's also not the kind of guy that is going to help in our offense as a pass catcher. Pettigrew is a Daniel Graham type of guy, 30-35 catches [40 upside] with great blocking. So while I wouldn't mind if we took him, I don't see it as a fit. I'm cool with Nicks but don't see that he'll be there when we pick in the 2nd round. And Ringer does very little for me. To me he's a guy you take toward the end of the draft and hope he makes an impression enough to stick on the roster.

Now, let's focus on the POSITIONAL options you lay out:

Option 1 -- RB/RB/WR

Option 2 -- TE/WR/RB

Option 3 -- WR/RB/TE

Let's rule out Option 1 immediately. Taking two RBs in the first two rounds seems a) totally unlikely and b) illogical given the ability to find RB talent later in the draft.

I would be fine with either option 2 or 3, but based on who I think will be there when we draft, I would prefer Option 3.

 

[tex]

Not an Eagles fan by any stretch, but I don't get why everyone keeps saying the Eagles need to upgrade the TE position? What is wrong with Celek? I thought he performed pretty well last year and that the Eagles were pleased with him?

 

[JetMaxx]

Pettigrew is a Daniel Graham type of guy, 30-35 catches [40 upside] with great blocking.

I agree with that assessment of Pettigrew and it's why I don't want any part of him at #21. Waste of a high selection IMO. Let someone else take a blocking TE with limited upside. Ironic that I saw in an article today that he is compared to Bubba Franks. First of all if you were to tell me that I would get Bubba Franks if I drafted Pettigrew in the first rd I say no thanks. Not enough upside to warrant the selection. But then it got me thinking....Franks is a FA. I can see the Eagles waiting until rd 2 or 3 to grab one of the potentially great pass catching TE's(Cook per DH) and signing Franks to be the #2 blocking TE. Fits rather nicely to me.

 

[Novice2]

Not an Eagles fan by any stretch, but I don't get why everyone keeps saying the Eagles need to upgrade the TE position? What is wrong with Celek? I thought he performed pretty well last year and that the Eagles were pleased with him?

He seemed to play well in 07 too but that didn't stop them from tagging Smith.

 

[eagles2007]

Not an Eagles fan by any stretch, but I don't get why everyone keeps saying the Eagles need to upgrade the TE position? What is wrong with Celek? I thought he performed pretty well last year and that the Eagles were pleased with him?

He seemed to play well in 07 too but that didn't stop them from tagging Smith.

he is a good receiving TE ... but not a good blocker. if they have two great tacckles, its not as big of a problem.

 

[crewmember]

I'm happy.

Just sit back, relax and watch them do their thing. Draft day is great for an Eagles fan because you never know what they are gonna do, and they can make a trade at any time. I remember cheering with my friends last year when a trade was announced. We had know idea what the trade was yet, but we knew the Eagles got the best of it, or at least had a good plan.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I'm happy.

Just sit back, relax and watch them do their thing. Draft day is great for an Eagles fan because you never know what they are gonna do, and they can make a trade at any time. I remember cheering with my friends last year when a trade was announced. We had know idea what the trade was yet, but we knew the Eagles got the best of it, or at least had a good plan.

Honestly, I can't think of a more frustrating team to watch during the draft. Last years moves worked out in the end but it took awhile to realize that. The year before that, and I think you're forgetting, was horrendous during/after.

 

[swarm06]

Hey birds fans..new to the board. Was wondering if anyone had heard anything further on Gonalez. I really think he would be the best addition they could make from 2-3 year perspective considering the value you would have to give versus Edwards and Boldin. I read today that he's not at Chiefs Mini Camp.

 

[Jason Wood]

Hey birds fans..new to the board. Was wondering if anyone had heard anything further on Gonalez. I really think he would be the best addition they could make from 2-3 year perspective considering the value you would have to give versus Edwards and Boldin. I read today that he's not at Chiefs Mini Camp.

I don't think KC plans on trading him, but I certainly would welcome him into the fold if something surprising transpired.

 

[Domination]

Hey birds fans..new to the board. Was wondering if anyone had heard anything further on Gonalez. I really think he would be the best addition they could make from 2-3 year perspective considering the value you would have to give versus Edwards and Boldin. I read today that he's not at Chiefs Mini Camp.

I don't think KC plans on trading him, but I certainly would welcome him into the fold if something surprising transpired.

I will personally drive to KC and pick him up if we can get him. He would be a perfect fit for this offense.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Hey birds fans..new to the board. Was wondering if anyone had heard anything further on Gonalez. I really think he would be the best addition they could make from 2-3 year perspective considering the value you would have to give versus Edwards and Boldin. I read today that he's not at Chiefs Mini Camp.

How'd you find us?

 

[swarm06]

Post over on Philaphans and someone mentioned this board. read some of the posts and liked the general tenor of the board. It seemed like some good knowledgeable posting so I thought join.

 

[Pat Patriot]

I'm happy.

Just sit back, relax and watch them do their thing. Draft day is great for an Eagles fan because you never know what they are gonna do, and they can make a trade at any time. I remember cheering with my friends last year when a trade was announced. We had know idea what the trade was yet, but we knew the Eagles got the best of it, or at least had a good plan.

Honestly, I can't think of a more frustrating team to watch during the draft. Last years moves worked out in the end but it took awhile to realize that. The year before that, and I think you're forgetting, was horrendous during/after.

The Eagles have traded out of the first round in each of the last 2 drafts. One year they ended up with a back up QB in the 2nd round and last year they ended up with DeSean Jackson. I'd say they are 1 for 2.It will be interesting to see if Peters reverts to Pro Bowl form after getting the huge bucks. From what I read, you have to have questions about his character given the way he played last year just because he didnt get the new contract he wanted.

 

[PrimUomo]

I think getting Peters was the best possible move for the Eagles. Playing for the Bills and playing for the Eagles are two different things. If Peters has any inclination of winning a championship he will play his butt off.

The Eagles won't draft an HB first round. I can see them getting Pettigrew to block in two TE sets and start if his skills eclipse Celek's. I could see him developing into a red zone threat with his size alone. Remember guys draft picks are never perfect when they come to the NFL. That is what coaches are for. Projecting what type of player someone will ultimately be can be risky business.

I think Shone Greene who was mentioned earlier would be a good later round pick and runningbacks can jump right into the action.

 

[Balco]

I think getting Peters was the best possible move for the Eagles. Playing for the Bills and playing for the Eagles are two different things. If Peters has any inclination of winning a championship he will play his butt off.

If Peters somehow plays harder for the Eagles than the Bills it shows me he is gutless and has no heart. That is not a player I would want on my team.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Talked to my buddy and here is what I was able to find out:

* Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Eagles ain't getting Boldin. He says it seems as if ARI doesn't want to trade him in the NFC.

* 1st round pick looks to be either a DE, WR or CB. There is one DE they really like that they think they can get. There is also a WR they really like as well. The mention of WR really surprised me. They will not take a RB in the 1st unless things really change in the next few days.

* 2nd round looks to be a RB or CB. After that, obviously things can change depending on who drops.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Talked to my buddy and here is what I was able to find out:* Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Eagles ain't getting Boldin. He says it seems as if ARI doesn't want to trade him in the NFC.* 1st round pick looks to be either a DE, WR or CB. There is one DE they really like that they think they can get. There is also a WR they really like as well. The mention of WR really surprised me. They will not take a RB in the 1st unless things really change in the next few days. * 2nd round looks to be a RB or CB. After that, obviously things can change depending on who drops.

Oof, so much for Moreno, or even Wells.If 4-5 RBs come off the board before their 2nd, they blew it IMHO. They need to get a Top 5 RB this year with no Buckhalter.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Talked to my buddy and here is what I was able to find out:* Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Eagles ain't getting Boldin. He says it seems as if ARI doesn't want to trade him in the NFC.* 1st round pick looks to be either a DE, WR or CB. There is one DE they really like that they think they can get. There is also a WR they really like as well. The mention of WR really surprised me. They will not take a RB in the 1st unless things really change in the next few days. * 2nd round looks to be a RB or CB. After that, obviously things can change depending on who drops.

Oof, so much for Moreno, or even Wells.If 4-5 RBs come off the board before their 2nd, they blew it IMHO. They need to get a Top 5 RB this year with no Buckhalter.

Unless my buddy was playing me, they WILL NOT take Beanie. His words "he doesn't fit our system".

 

[Sebowski]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/19/...acks-last-year/

Peters Didn’t Know He Gave Up 11.5 Sacks Last Year

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m.

Well, now we know why former Bills tackle Jason Peters thought he was worth $10 million per year despite giving up 11.5 sack last season.

He didn’t know he gave up 11.5 sacks last season.

“That’s the first time I’ve heard that stat,” Peters said Sunday during his first press conference as a member of the Eagles. “I don’t recall giving up that many.

“If they charged me with that many, so what?” Peters said. “I’m an Eagle now. If I give up 11.5 sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Of course, that thinking could apply to anyone who is paid $10 million per year to play left tackle at the NFL level.

Hell, even I could use it. Let’s give it a try.

“If I give up [insert total number of offensive snaps for the season] sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Yep. It works. Where’s my bonus check?

Peters also seemed to admit that maybe he didn’t give 100 percent on every play last year because he wasn’t happy with his contract.

“I was thinking about it sometimes,” he said. “If you get beat on a play and you think about your contract. It doesn’t affect me that much. I thought about it some early in the year but later on in the year it wasn’t a big deal.”

So, Philly fans, if Peters ends up being not very good at left tackle, remember this as the moment when you first wondered whether it was a good idea to trade for him.

 

[GoBirds]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/19/...acks-last-year/

Peters Didn’t Know He Gave Up 11.5 Sacks Last Year

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m.

Well, now we know why former Bills tackle Jason Peters thought he was worth $10 million per year despite giving up 11.5 sack last season.

He didn’t know he gave up 11.5 sacks last season.

“That’s the first time I’ve heard that stat,” Peters said Sunday during his first press conference as a member of the Eagles. “I don’t recall giving up that many.

“If they charged me with that many, so what?” Peters said. “I’m an Eagle now. If I give up 11.5 sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Of course, that thinking could apply to anyone who is paid $10 million per year to play left tackle at the NFL level.

Hell, even I could use it. Let’s give it a try.

“If I give up [insert total number of offensive snaps for the season] sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Yep. It works. Where’s my bonus check?

Peters also seemed to admit that maybe he didn’t give 100 percent on every play last year because he wasn’t happy with his contract.

“I was thinking about it sometimes,” he said. “If you get beat on a play and you think about your contract. It doesn’t affect me that much. I thought about it some early in the year but later on in the year it wasn’t a big deal.”

So, Philly fans, if Peters ends up being not very good at left tackle, remember this as the moment when you first wondered whether it was a good idea to trade for him.

You paid twice as much for Haynesworth, speaking of suspect character.

 

[Sebowski]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/19/...acks-last-year/

Peters Didn’t Know He Gave Up 11.5 Sacks Last Year

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m.

Well, now we know why former Bills tackle Jason Peters thought he was worth $10 million per year despite giving up 11.5 sack last season.

He didn’t know he gave up 11.5 sacks last season.

“That’s the first time I’ve heard that stat,” Peters said Sunday during his first press conference as a member of the Eagles. “I don’t recall giving up that many.

“If they charged me with that many, so what?” Peters said. “I’m an Eagle now. If I give up 11.5 sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Of course, that thinking could apply to anyone who is paid $10 million per year to play left tackle at the NFL level.

Hell, even I could use it. Let’s give it a try.

“If I give up [insert total number of offensive snaps for the season] sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Yep. It works. Where’s my bonus check?

Peters also seemed to admit that maybe he didn’t give 100 percent on every play last year because he wasn’t happy with his contract.

“I was thinking about it sometimes,” he said. “If you get beat on a play and you think about your contract. It doesn’t affect me that much. I thought about it some early in the year but later on in the year it wasn’t a big deal.”

So, Philly fans, if Peters ends up being not very good at left tackle, remember this as the moment when you first wondered whether it was a good idea to trade for him.

You paid twice as much for Haynesworth, speaking of suspect character.

Haynesworth is getting 20 mil per year? I don't think so. This isn't Baseball. Haynesworth is getting 12 mil per year for 4 years. The rest is fluff. Hopefully he'll get us on the right side of those 11.5 sacks.

 

[thayman]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/19/...acks-last-year/

Peters Didn’t Know He Gave Up 11.5 Sacks Last Year

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m.

Well, now we know why former Bills tackle Jason Peters thought he was worth $10 million per year despite giving up 11.5 sack last season.

He didn’t know he gave up 11.5 sacks last season.

“That’s the first time I’ve heard that stat,” Peters said Sunday during his first press conference as a member of the Eagles. “I don’t recall giving up that many.

“If they charged me with that many, so what?” Peters said. “I’m an Eagle now. If I give up 11.5 sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Of course, that thinking could apply to anyone who is paid $10 million per year to play left tackle at the NFL level.

Hell, even I could use it. Let’s give it a try.

“If I give up [insert total number of offensive snaps for the season] sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Yep. It works. Where’s my bonus check?

Peters also seemed to admit that maybe he didn’t give 100 percent on every play last year because he wasn’t happy with his contract.

“I was thinking about it sometimes,” he said. “If you get beat on a play and you think about your contract. It doesn’t affect me that much. I thought about it some early in the year but later on in the year it wasn’t a big deal.”

So, Philly fans, if Peters ends up being not very good at left tackle, remember this as the moment when you first wondered whether it was a good idea to trade for him.

You paid twice as much for Haynesworth, speaking of suspect character.

Haynesworth is getting 20 mil per year? I don't think so. This isn't Baseball. Haynesworth is getting 12 mil per year for 4 years. The rest is fluff. Hopefully he'll get us on the right side of those 11.5 sacks.

Haynesworth also didn't cost 1st and 4th round draft picks.

 

[dotman]

I think getting Peters was the best possible move for the Eagles. Playing for the Bills and playing for the Eagles are two different things. If Peters has any inclination of winning a championship he will play his butt off.

If Peters somehow plays harder for the Eagles than the Bills it shows me he is gutless and has no heart. That is not a player I would want on my team.

Would you want Randy Moss? I'm pretty sure he wasn't giving his all in Oakland.

 

[GoBirds]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/19/...acks-last-year/

Peters Didn’t Know He Gave Up 11.5 Sacks Last Year

Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2009, 1:06 p.m.

Well, now we know why former Bills tackle Jason Peters thought he was worth $10 million per year despite giving up 11.5 sack last season.

He didn’t know he gave up 11.5 sacks last season.

“That’s the first time I’ve heard that stat,” Peters said Sunday during his first press conference as a member of the Eagles. “I don’t recall giving up that many.

“If they charged me with that many, so what?” Peters said. “I’m an Eagle now. If I give up 11.5 sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Of course, that thinking could apply to anyone who is paid $10 million per year to play left tackle at the NFL level.

Hell, even I could use it. Let’s give it a try.

“If I give up [insert total number of offensive snaps for the season] sacks, I’m only human. I’m going to give 100 percent on every play.”

Yep. It works. Where’s my bonus check?

Peters also seemed to admit that maybe he didn’t give 100 percent on every play last year because he wasn’t happy with his contract.

“I was thinking about it sometimes,” he said. “If you get beat on a play and you think about your contract. It doesn’t affect me that much. I thought about it some early in the year but later on in the year it wasn’t a big deal.”

So, Philly fans, if Peters ends up being not very good at left tackle, remember this as the moment when you first wondered whether it was a good idea to trade for him.

You paid twice as much for Haynesworth, speaking of suspect character.

Haynesworth is getting 20 mil per year? I don't think so. This isn't Baseball. Haynesworth is getting 12 mil per year for 4 years. The rest is fluff. Hopefully he'll get us on the right side of those 11.5 sacks.

And I suspect there will be no "fluff" in Peters' contract? Unless Haynesworth plays QB or O-line get ready for another new high paid FA that leads the Skins to another season with no playoffs. The Dan Snyder way.

 

[scratcher]

Talked to my buddy and here is what I was able to find out:* Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Eagles ain't getting Boldin. He says it seems as if ARI doesn't want to trade him in the NFC.* 1st round pick looks to be either a DE, WR or CB. There is one DE they really like that they think they can get. There is also a WR they really like as well. The mention of WR really surprised me. They will not take a RB in the 1st unless things really change in the next few days. * 2nd round looks to be a RB or CB. After that, obviously things can change depending on who drops.

My guess is the WR is from Rutgers...

 

[Jason Wood]

Talked to my buddy and here is what I was able to find out:* Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the Eagles ain't getting Boldin. He says it seems as if ARI doesn't want to trade him in the NFC.* 1st round pick looks to be either a DE, WR or CB. There is one DE they really like that they think they can get. There is also a WR they really like as well. The mention of WR really surprised me. They will not take a RB in the 1st unless things really change in the next few days. * 2nd round looks to be a RB or CB. After that, obviously things can change depending on who drops.

My guess is the WR is from Rutgers...

I can only hope...I love Kenny Britt and would love to see him in Eagles gear next year.