***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[CentralPA]

The line did do fairly well dispite th snaps. The offense can drive on that Dallas D but too many careless mistakes and drops. I agree that this may not be there year but I you have to like what they have built on the offensive side on the ball. I would settle for them beating Dallas next week but to expect more than that from this team will be tough but the Saints have dropped 3 in a row and dispite the drubbing the Vikes gave to the Giants I think they aren't as good as advertised.

I may just be trying to talk myself into think the Eagles have chance

 

[fred_1_15301]

The line did do fairly well dispite th snaps. The offense can drive on that Dallas D but too many careless mistakes and drops. I agree that this may not be there year but I you have to like what they have built on the offensive side on the ball. I would settle for them beating Dallas next week but to expect more than that from this team will be tough but the Saints have dropped 3 in a row and dispite the drubbing the Vikes gave to the Giants I think they aren't as good as advertised. I may just be trying to talk myself into think the Eagles have chance

The Giants superbowl win 2 years ago and the Steelers superbowl win 4 years ago is all you need to look at. Of course they have a chance. They're talented enough to beat anyone in the NFC. It just comes down to whether or not they can play up to that level of talent.

 

[scratcher]

If the Eagles were gonna lose yesterday, I'm glad they did it in such an embarrassing way. There's nothing to light a fire under your ### then getting blown out by a division rival. If the Eagles arent fired up for this next game now, they deserve to lose.

 

[JetMaxx]

Yet another pressure game in which McNabb comes up small. Now he says that the youth of the receivers is to blame. OK Donovan.

 

[Jason Wood]

Pretty disappointing game. I honestly thought we had a good shot at losing, but I didn't expect a shut out.

Ironically I feel pretty confident that we'll win there this week in the rematch, but whether we can make a run? Totally a coin toss. Outside of Arizona, I genuinely think the NFC is wide open.

 

[CentralPA]

Pretty disappointing game. I honestly thought we had a good shot at losing, but I didn't expect a shut out.Ironically I feel pretty confident that we'll win there this week in the rematch, but whether we can make a run? Totally a coin toss. Outside of Arizona, I genuinely think the NFC is wide open.

You are liking the Cards to go back to the Super Bowl? I could very well see that happening, the key to the Cards or course is Warner, defenses that get pressure on him and quick can shut down the Cards offense. THe Vikings are the only team I see that could fit that mold and I don't think they would face them until the NFC Championship.The Eagles are close, they need to sore up the Linebacker position bad, bringing Bradley back next year won't fix that. Safety is also a concern. I never count the Birds out and you're correct fred, teams have taken this road before and have been recently successful.

 

[babydemon90]

LB corps is a pretty big problem. Not sure if there is a way to fix that for next year though. FA are somewhat meh, Morrison maybe.

 

[scratcher]

LB corps is a pretty big problem. Not sure if there is a way to fix that for next year though. FA are somewhat meh, Morrison maybe.

Bradley was the biggest loss this season by far and it has showed throughout this year. The LBs would be much more solid if he was back. I think Witherspoon--Bradley--Jordan would be more than serviceable next year.

 

[Jason Wood]

Pretty disappointing game. I honestly thought we had a good shot at losing, but I didn't expect a shut out.Ironically I feel pretty confident that we'll win there this week in the rematch, but whether we can make a run? Totally a coin toss. Outside of Arizona, I genuinely think the NFC is wide open.

You are liking the Cards to go back to the Super Bowl? I could very well see that happening, the key to the Cards or course is Warner, defenses that get pressure on him and quick can shut down the Cards offense. THe Vikings are the only team I see that could fit that mold and I don't think they would face them until the NFC Championship.The Eagles are close, they need to sore up the Linebacker position bad, bringing Bradley back next year won't fix that. Safety is also a concern. I never count the Birds out and you're correct fred, teams have taken this road before and have been recently successful.

No, no...I meant I think anyone OTHER THAN Arizona can come out of the NFC. I just don't buy the Cards, but everyone else I could see getting it done.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Pretty disappointing game. I honestly thought we had a good shot at losing, but I didn't expect a shut out.Ironically I feel pretty confident that we'll win there this week in the rematch, but whether we can make a run? Totally a coin toss. Outside of Arizona, I genuinely think the NFC is wide open.

I think they can win at Dallas as well, in fact, I expect them to.

 

[CentralPA]

Pretty disappointing game. I honestly thought we had a good shot at losing, but I didn't expect a shut out.Ironically I feel pretty confident that we'll win there this week in the rematch, but whether we can make a run? Totally a coin toss. Outside of Arizona, I genuinely think the NFC is wide open.

You are liking the Cards to go back to the Super Bowl? I could very well see that happening, the key to the Cards or course is Warner, defenses that get pressure on him and quick can shut down the Cards offense. THe Vikings are the only team I see that could fit that mold and I don't think they would face them until the NFC Championship.The Eagles are close, they need to sore up the Linebacker position bad, bringing Bradley back next year won't fix that. Safety is also a concern. I never count the Birds out and you're correct fred, teams have taken this road before and have been recently successful.

No, no...I meant I think anyone OTHER THAN Arizona can come out of the NFC. I just don't buy the Cards, but everyone else I could see getting it done.

OK, that makes a little more sense. I could see the Cards geting there but I don't think they have the same magic like they had last year but with Bolden possibly done they don't seem as strong to me.

 

[simmonjm]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win? Philly has scored 16 points, and 0 points in two meetings this year, I have a hard time seeing your defense holding the Cowboys to 17 points or less which would likely be needed for a win. Turnovers could definetly factor into the equation but relying on turnovers is a recipe for failure. IMO the Cowboys match up very well with the Eagles, the Eagles offense is built on big plays, and the Cowboys defense forces you to take your time and gain yards in small increments. The Eagles passing game struggles with this facet of the game thus the lowered scoring output.

 

[Amused to Death]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win? Philly has scored 16 points, and 0 points in two meetings this year, I have a hard time seeing your defense holding the Cowboys to 17 points or less which would likely be needed for a win. Turnovers could definetly factor into the equation but relying on turnovers is a recipe for failure. IMO the Cowboys match up very well with the Eagles, the Eagles offense is built on big plays, and the Cowboys defense forces you to take your time and gain yards in small increments. The Eagles passing game struggles with this facet of the game thus the lowered scoring output.

1996

 

[delusional]

Dead horse here but when you run only 3 times per half, you will not win a game.

 

[unckeyherb]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game. Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

 

[CentralPA]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win? Philly has scored 16 points, and 0 points in two meetings this year, I have a hard time seeing your defense holding the Cowboys to 17 points or less which would likely be needed for a win. Turnovers could definetly factor into the equation but relying on turnovers is a recipe for failure. IMO the Cowboys match up very well with the Eagles, the Eagles offense is built on big plays, and the Cowboys defense forces you to take your time and gain yards in small increments. The Eagles passing game struggles with this facet of the game thus the lowered scoring output.

I agree that I think Dallas is the better team but the big plays were there yesterday. If McNabb doesn't over throw his pass to DeSean Jackson in 2nd quarter(?) that's a TD. Alot of dropped balls and there were plenty of +20 yard plays made. Eagles offense was sloppy, I don't expect the same next week. What will win the game for Dallas is there offense against the Eagles Defense. It's a bad matchup for the Eagles with their linebackers and small front 4 against that mammoth offensive line. The only chance they have is to utilize their speed and blitz which Romo has shown he can either handle or be shaky with. Sadly I think Romo has it read pretty well so I expect they will score quite a bit next week.

 

[Cable]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game.

Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

What they need is a balanced offense to shorten the game, make the opposing defense play honest, and their own defense to hold on 3rd downs to get off the field. I'm an Eagles fan and I'm wondering whether or not I was watching the same game as everyone else? What I saw was an ownership of every facet of the game by the Cowboys over the Eagles. There's a blueprint that teams follow to beat the Eagles...keep the plays in front of them on defense then run on them on offense.

What else did I see yesterday...I saw 2 Cowboy RBs nearly get 100/ea...Barber getting 60 yards on his 1st 3 runs of the game...Dallas averaging nearly 6 yards per carry...Dallas's time of possession more than twice Philadelphia's TOP...Dallas more than doubling Philadelphia's total yardage...and it just goes on and on and on. The way I saw it is that yesterday the Cowboys played better fundamental, basic football than the Eagles...meanwhile we needed a couple big plays to win.

I'll never understand why basic, sound football logic is consistently bypassed for schemes and trickery.

 

[crewmember]

The line did do fairly well dispite th snaps. The offense can drive on that Dallas D but too many careless mistakes and drops. I agree that this may not be there year but I you have to like what they have built on the offensive side on the ball. I would settle for them beating Dallas next week but to expect more than that from this team will be tough but the Saints have dropped 3 in a row and dispite the drubbing the Vikes gave to the Giants I think they aren't as good as advertised.

I may just be trying to talk myself into think the Eagles have chance

There are plenty of reasons to do this.1) being they won 6 in a row before yesterday

2) They almost won 3 road games to get to superbowl last year

3) Other teams have done it

I know they put up a goose egg yesterday but I am more concerned about the defense than the offense. At least the offense and franchis record of points has shown something most of the season, the defense and the linebackers specifically getting torn apart yesterday wasn't exactly shocking. Hopefully they can regain last years form of the first 2 playoff games and Assante can put up some more playoff interceptions and points.

As far as the vikings in a championship game, I know it is loud as heck in that place but it might be better to play there than at Linc. Won there last year and get the fast turf for our speed and dome is better for the passing game.

 

[crewmember]

Also this is obvious but I think it is very important the Birds score first next. If they can settle down into the game they should be alright.

 

[Mustang Man]

Also this is obvious but I think it is very important the Birds score first next. If they can settle down into the game they should be alright.

Yes you are somewhat correct I think. It seems Philly likes to get of to a quick start. If they don't it seems they are just not as confident. That was the big thing for Dallas in the first meeting in Philly. Withstand the first flurry the Eagles always go for and then stay the coarse. In the end Dallas stayed close and won the game on a double move from Romo to Austin. I really think if Philly wins it will be a close game they win in the last 3 minutes but they must win the turn over battle to get to that point. If Dallas get a double digit lead going into half and gets the chance with a lead to play conservative light out. Dallas is the better team but as was posted in this thread and other threads I would not be surprised if any of the 6 teams from the NFC made it to the Super Bowl. So if any of the favorites in any of the NFC games beat itself with TO'S they will lose. One thing for sure Dallas will not get blown out. They have not all year and Andy Reid while a good coach can only come up with so many schemes to make up for superior talent on the other side of the football.Let's do this and either way I have much respect for the Eagles they have heart and will not be an easy out like last week.

 

[simmonjm]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game. Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

Serious question, had Patrick Crayton caught that pass he dropped against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs and they won the game, would that make DeMarcus Ware play better this Saturday? I hear alot of media throw around playoff experience as a determining factor but the simple fact is Arizona was on par with Dallas as far as playoff experience and they BEAT your battle tested Eagles last year. If you want to point to momentum or psychological edge as an advantage I would argue that beating a team by 24 points would give Dallas a psychological edge as opposed to Philly.

 

[GoBirds]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game. Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

Serious question, had Patrick Crayton caught that pass he dropped against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs and they won the game, would that make DeMarcus Ware play better this Saturday? I hear alot of media throw around playoff experience as a determining factor but the simple fact is Arizona was on par with Dallas as far as playoff experience and they BEAT your battle tested Eagles last year. If you want to point to momentum or psychological edge as an advantage I would argue that beating a team by 24 points would give Dallas a psychological edge as opposed to Philly.

Really comparing them to Arizona? How would you compare Warner's playoff career to Tony Choko? Maybe the Cowboys can beat us 3 times in a year but I seriously doubt it.

 

[simmonjm]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game. Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

Serious question, had Patrick Crayton caught that pass he dropped against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs and they won the game, would that make DeMarcus Ware play better this Saturday? I hear alot of media throw around playoff experience as a determining factor but the simple fact is Arizona was on par with Dallas as far as playoff experience and they BEAT your battle tested Eagles last year. If you want to point to momentum or psychological edge as an advantage I would argue that beating a team by 24 points would give Dallas a psychological edge as opposed to Philly.

Really comparing them to Arizona? How would you compare Warner's playoff career to Tony Choko? Maybe the Cowboys can beat us 3 times in a year but I seriously doubt it.

Funny I can never a straight answer from an Eagles fan on this question, instead they retort back with a Tony Homo or 13 years comment. I was not specifically comparing Dallas to Arizona, rather I was citing an example that proved my point that playoff experience is over rated. Another fun fact Peyton Manning playoff record was 0-2 before he won his first playoff game and rode that momentum all the way to a superbowl victory. Again Im not comparing Romo to Manning just saying you shouldnt automatically dismiss Romo.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

If you watched the game closely you saw some really interesting looks from the Cowboys.

They went 3-wide twice with Crayton, Austin and Witten to one side. First time was on a third down and the 2 inside guys ran deep routes to clear out for Austin on the slant. Easy pitch and catch for a first down.

Second time? Sheldon Brown beaten on a pump by Romo to fake the slant and IIRC it was Crayton's TD wide open behind a flatfooted Brown who bit on the slant.

Very nice offensive look by Dallas.

How will Philly counter? Pressure - they sucked at getting any the first half. Aside from Felix Jones (big aside I know) they held Dallas down way better after halftime than in the first half. The Eagles must answer the short routes and challnege Romo to go up top. If they get pressure he can't do that unless he slips through the defense and out of the pocket. That's the gambles they must take.

Philly must run and complete some screens. Get Avant more work. McNabb must be accurate in the first half and they cannot fall behind by two scores.

It is par for the Eagles to disappoint (lose at DAL) then come right back with a W to raise spirits. I expect the Eagles to win two games in the postseason then fall apart in the NFCCG in Green Bay.

 

[Manster]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game. Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

Serious question, had Patrick Crayton caught that pass he dropped against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs and they won the game, would that make DeMarcus Ware play better this Saturday? I hear alot of media throw around playoff experience as a determining factor but the simple fact is Arizona was on par with Dallas as far as playoff experience and they BEAT your battle tested Eagles last year. If you want to point to momentum or psychological edge as an advantage I would argue that beating a team by 24 points would give Dallas a psychological edge as opposed to Philly.

Really comparing them to Arizona? How would you compare Warner's playoff career to Tony Choko? Maybe the Cowboys can beat us 3 times in a year but I seriously doubt it.

Tony Choko? how bout Donovan McChoke? that was a nice bobbled snap that resulted in a turnover ,and way to be accurate.

 

[renesauz]

That loss was on the whole team. McNabb had only a couple bad balls, and his receivers had a bunch of pure drops. The offense was just a little bit ...off, as they are prone to do now and then. The line was OK (not great).

It's the defense that I find disconcerting. The Cowboys opened with two very long time consuming drives, and had over 250 yards of offense in the first half. Naysayers can't blame McNabb and the O either since they had only had TWO possessions at the point Dallas passed 250 yards.

It's been a good year overall, and I'm very excited about this team's future...but this defense won't get us near a title game. In retrospect, the Eagles have not beaten a single playoff team this year. In fact...they've only won a couple game against teams above .500. They never got a satisfactory answer at LB after Bradley went down. Samuel (IMHO) doesn't deserve a probowl...he takes too many chances and gives up 3 big plays for every one he makes..

I'm generally a positive fan and McNabb backer. This is a good team, and I'm pretty happy with most of what they've done...but something's missing on defense, and as a result we aren't good enough this year. McNabb is NOT the problem.

 

[JuniorNB]

That loss was on the whole team. McNabb had only a couple bad balls, and his receivers had a bunch of pure drops. The offense was just a little bit ...off, as they are prone to do now and then. The line was OK (not great).

It's the defense that I find disconcerting. The Cowboys opened with two very long time consuming drives, and had over 250 yards of offense in the first half. Naysayers can't blame McNabb and the O either since they had only had TWO possessions at the point Dallas passed 250 yards.

It's been a good year overall, and I'm very excited about this team's future...but this defense won't get us near a title game. In retrospect, the Eagles have not beaten a single playoff team this year. In fact...they've only won a couple game against teams above .500. They never got a satisfactory answer at LB after Bradley went down. Samuel (IMHO) doesn't deserve a probowl...he takes too many chances and gives up 3 big plays for every one he makes..

I'm generally a positive fan and McNabb backer. This is a good team, and I'm pretty happy with most of what they've done...but something's missing on defense, and as a result we aren't good enough this year. McNabb is NOT the problem.

I 100% agree with you on this. McNabb is easily still a top ten QB in the league. Considering there are 32, Philly needs to count their blessings that they've had an entire decade with a top 10 QB..top 5 some years. He's not the problem, unless you consider the fact that he's not Peyton Manning 'a problem'. That being said, I wouldn't be shocked to see them move him in the offseason. Kolb showed that he might be able to play in this leaguie and it would be foolish to allow McNabb to play another 2 or 3 years and let age dissolve any value the Birds could get for him. Sure, they'll take a step backwards with Kolb in 2010, but all their offensive talent is either 1st or 2nd year, so they could all develope together. They could use the McNabb-pick as well as their own to get some defensive studs and maybe another quality offensive lineman.

It seems strange to see a team with such a long success streak appear to have an even brighter future.

 

[renesauz]

I've been a long time McNabb supporter, and would rather see him back.

That said...I'd rather see McNabb leave for picks then watch Kolb walk away in free agency. I suspect they'll both be in Eagles green in 2010, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

 

[fred_1_15301]

That loss was on the whole team. McNabb had only a couple bad balls, and his receivers had a bunch of pure drops. The offense was just a little bit ...off, as they are prone to do now and then. The line was OK (not great).

It's the defense that I find disconcerting. The Cowboys opened with two very long time consuming drives, and had over 250 yards of offense in the first half. Naysayers can't blame McNabb and the O either since they had only had TWO possessions at the point Dallas passed 250 yards.

It's been a good year overall, and I'm very excited about this team's future...but this defense won't get us near a title game. In retrospect, the Eagles have not beaten a single playoff team this year. In fact...they've only won a couple game against teams above .500. They never got a satisfactory answer at LB after Bradley went down. Samuel (IMHO) doesn't deserve a probowl...he takes too many chances and gives up 3 big plays for every one he makes..

I'm generally a positive fan and McNabb backer. This is a good team, and I'm pretty happy with most of what they've done...but something's missing on defense, and as a result we aren't good enough this year. McNabb is NOT the problem.

I 100% agree with you on this. McNabb is easily still a top ten QB in the league. Considering there are 32, Philly needs to count their blessings that they've had an entire decade with a top 10 QB..top 5 some years. He's not the problem, unless you consider the fact that he's not Peyton Manning 'a problem'. That being said, I wouldn't be shocked to see them move him in the offseason. Kolb showed that he might be able to play in this leaguie and it would be foolish to allow McNabb to play another 2 or 3 years and let age dissolve any value the Birds could get for him. Sure, they'll take a step backwards with Kolb in 2010, but all their offensive talent is either 1st or 2nd year, so they could all develope together. They could use the McNabb-pick as well as their own to get some defensive studs and maybe another quality offensive lineman.

It seems strange to see a team with such a long success streak appear to have an even brighter future.

I'm with you on McNabb but they may not take a huge step backwards with Kolb next year. He's been learning the system for several years now and he's even had some starting experience. He's got loads of talent around him on offense so that will help him develop. The problem is definitely on defense but with Bradley coming back, they should improve dramatically. I think the Eagles can and should be one of the top teams in the NFC regardless of whether Kolb or Mcnabb is at the helm. This is of course assuming that Kolb doesn't end up being a big time bust...............

 

[JetMaxx]

That loss was on the whole team. McNabb had only a couple bad balls, and his receivers had a bunch of pure drops. The offense was just a little bit ...off, as they are prone to do now and then. The line was OK (not great).

It's the defense that I find disconcerting. The Cowboys opened with two very long time consuming drives, and had over 250 yards of offense in the first half. Naysayers can't blame McNabb and the O either since they had only had TWO possessions at the point Dallas passed 250 yards.

It's been a good year overall, and I'm very excited about this team's future...but this defense won't get us near a title game. In retrospect, the Eagles have not beaten a single playoff team this year. In fact...they've only won a couple game against teams above .500. They never got a satisfactory answer at LB after Bradley went down. Samuel (IMHO) doesn't deserve a probowl...he takes too many chances and gives up 3 big plays for every one he makes..

I'm generally a positive fan and McNabb backer. This is a good team, and I'm pretty happy with most of what they've done...but something's missing on defense, and as a result we aren't good enough this year. McNabb is NOT the problem.

I 100% agree with you on this. McNabb is easily still a top ten QB in the league. Considering there are 32, Philly needs to count their blessings that they've had an entire decade with a top 10 QB..top 5 some years. He's not the problem, unless you consider the fact that he's not Peyton Manning 'a problem'. That being said, I wouldn't be shocked to see them move him in the offseason. Kolb showed that he might be able to play in this leaguie and it would be foolish to allow McNabb to play another 2 or 3 years and let age dissolve any value the Birds could get for him. Sure, they'll take a step backwards with Kolb in 2010, but all their offensive talent is either 1st or 2nd year, so they could all develope together. They could use the McNabb-pick as well as their own to get some defensive studs and maybe another quality offensive lineman.

It seems strange to see a team with such a long success streak appear to have an even brighter future.

I'm with you on McNabb but they may not take a huge step backwards with Kolb next year. He's been learning the system for several years now and he's even had some starting experience. He's got loads of talent around him on offense so that will help him develop. The problem is definitely on defense but with Bradley coming back, they should improve dramatically. I think the Eagles can and should be one of the top teams in the NFC regardless of whether Kolb or Mcnabb is at the helm. This is of course assuming that Kolb doesn't end up being a big time bust...............

I'd rather take my chance with Kolb than repeat this same story over and over again. Give Kolb those weapons, build some experience, and see where they go.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I was in the Philly area around New Year's and I heard a little of the callers on WIP (actually not terrible in small doses, but highly redundant).

The talk was of trading McNabb for a 1st (if they could get it, said some, and they did debate this) and go with Kolb for 2010.

The host(s) seemed very adamant that Vick would also be back next year. Interesting.

So the questions are:

Could McNabb fetch a 1st? More? Less?

Do you dare gamble with Kolb in 2010?

Do you try and move Kolb? If so, what's your asking price?

Are you comfy with Vick as your QB2?

 

[Jason Wood]

I was in the Philly area around New Year's and I heard a little of the callers on WIP (actually not terrible in small doses, but highly redundant).The talk was of trading McNabb for a 1st (if they could get it, said some, and they did debate this) and go with Kolb for 2010.The host(s) seemed very adamant that Vick would also be back next year. Interesting.So the questions are:Could McNabb fetch a 1st? More? Less?Do you dare gamble with Kolb in 2010?Do you try and move Kolb? If so, what's your asking price?Are you comfy with Vick as your QB2?

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second. Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I was in the Philly area around New Year's and I heard a little of the callers on WIP (actually not terrible in small doses, but highly redundant).The talk was of trading McNabb for a 1st (if they could get it, said some, and they did debate this) and go with Kolb for 2010.The host(s) seemed very adamant that Vick would also be back next year. Interesting.So the questions are:Could McNabb fetch a 1st? More? Less?Do you dare gamble with Kolb in 2010?Do you try and move Kolb? If so, what's your asking price?Are you comfy with Vick as your QB2?

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second. Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

I would like to see Kolb moved if they could get a Shaub return.

 

[dhockster]

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second. Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

So if Kolb is gone, and Vick is not your longterm answer to be the Eagles future Qb, who is going to be the Eagles starter after McNabb? Based on every other position, the Eagles have planned ahead with replacements. So I don't think they are just going to hope someone comes along when McNabb is done after next season. And McNabb will not be an Eagle after next season because the team elected to give him a raise rather than extend his contract. That makes no sense if the Eagles were planning to keep him more than next year.If they think Kolb is the heir apparent, then they will either start him next year and move McNabb for whatever they can get, or they will keep McNabb one more year before Kolb takes over. If Vick is the heir apparent (which I don't see) then they will look to unload Kolb. If neither is the next QB in their eyes, then they will likely draft or trade for a QB this off season and McNabb will definitely start in 2010. Based on how he played this year (granted it was only two games), I have no reason to believe Kolb won't be the starter after McNabb leaves.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second. Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

So if Kolb is gone, and Vick is not your longterm answer to be the Eagles future Qb, who is going to be the Eagles starter after McNabb? Based on every other position, the Eagles have planned ahead with replacements. So I don't think they are just going to hope someone comes along when McNabb is done after next season. And McNabb will not be an Eagle after next season because the team elected to give him a raise rather than extend his contract. That makes no sense if the Eagles were planning to keep him more than next year.If they think Kolb is the heir apparent, then they will either start him next year and move McNabb for whatever they can get, or they will keep McNabb one more year before Kolb takes over. If Vick is the heir apparent (which I don't see) then they will look to unload Kolb. If neither is the next QB in their eyes, then they will likely draft or trade for a QB this off season and McNabb will definitely start in 2010. Based on how he played this year (granted it was only two games), I have no reason to believe Kolb won't be the starter after McNabb leaves.

I believe Kolb becomes a FA the same time McNabb does. So therein lies the problem. Are you really going to give him a long term extension based on the two games he played this year and what you've seen of him in training camp and at practice? You either have to go with Kolb next year to see if he can handle the starting job, or you have to give McNabb an extension and trade Kolb (if you can). We have no idea how he'll do once coordinators get real game film on him and start game planning to stop him.

 

[Amused to Death]

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second. Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

So if Kolb is gone, and Vick is not your longterm answer to be the Eagles future Qb, who is going to be the Eagles starter after McNabb? Based on every other position, the Eagles have planned ahead with replacements. So I don't think they are just going to hope someone comes along when McNabb is done after next season. And McNabb will not be an Eagle after next season because the team elected to give him a raise rather than extend his contract. That makes no sense if the Eagles were planning to keep him more than next year.If they think Kolb is the heir apparent, then they will either start him next year and move McNabb for whatever they can get, or they will keep McNabb one more year before Kolb takes over. If Vick is the heir apparent (which I don't see) then they will look to unload Kolb. If neither is the next QB in their eyes, then they will likely draft or trade for a QB this off season and McNabb will definitely start in 2010. Based on how he played this year (granted it was only two games), I have no reason to believe Kolb won't be the starter after McNabb leaves.

I believe Kolb becomes a FA the same time McNabb does. So therein lies the problem. Are you really going to give him a long term extension based on the two games he played this year and what you've seen of him in training camp and at practice? You either have to go with Kolb next year to see if he can handle the starting job, or you have to give McNabb an extension and trade Kolb (if you can). We have no idea how he'll do once coordinators get real game film on him and start game planning to stop him.

McNabb and Kolb are signed through 2010, so this offseason will be telling. The Eagles had a chance in June to extend McNabb but chose only to give him a raise. With both QB's entering the final year of their deals, I'd expect both to start making noise regarding an extension. Neither is going to want to enter the year without some guaranteed money. I doubt McNabb would give them a discount and the Eagles aren't going to break the bank to sign a 34 year old QB.The Eagles can say all they want, but their actions have been that of preparing for Kolb's takeover. And next year makes sense. Its the Eagles last chance to get anything back in a trade with McNabb and they have the young receivers/TE to grow with a young QB. Kolb was their first draft pick in '07 so they obviously like him. They won't get an equal pick back for him in a trade (high 2nd) because Miami looks set at QB.

 

[Jason Wood]

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second. Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

So if Kolb is gone, and Vick is not your longterm answer to be the Eagles future Qb, who is going to be the Eagles starter after McNabb? Based on every other position, the Eagles have planned ahead with replacements. So I don't think they are just going to hope someone comes along when McNabb is done after next season. And McNabb will not be an Eagle after next season because the team elected to give him a raise rather than extend his contract. That makes no sense if the Eagles were planning to keep him more than next year.If they think Kolb is the heir apparent, then they will either start him next year and move McNabb for whatever they can get, or they will keep McNabb one more year before Kolb takes over. If Vick is the heir apparent (which I don't see) then they will look to unload Kolb. If neither is the next QB in their eyes, then they will likely draft or trade for a QB this off season and McNabb will definitely start in 2010. Based on how he played this year (granted it was only two games), I have no reason to believe Kolb won't be the starter after McNabb leaves.

All of this is fungible. There are few players that any team as well run as the Eagles would consider untouchable. For the right price, particularly if they feel there's a viable alternative to replace them, a guy like Kolb is obviously available. But sure, I see no reason to think THEY don't think he could be a solid starter down the road; and that means they aren't going to give him up on the cheap. That said, I don't see them paying him a big extension either, which really makes the idea of trading him (a la Schaub or the way we dealt Feeley for a 2nd rounder to Miami or the way the Pack dealt Favre's backups frequently) that much smarter.

 

[Amused to Death]

Unless McNabb goes on full tilt this offseason and demands a trade, he's not leaving. He's coming off a great season, got his guaranteed money, and Reid got his extension. There's no Earthly reason why an 11 win team with a veteran Pro Bowler would move him simply because the fans want something different.

Playing the hypothetical, could he fetch a first? Doubtful b/c McNabb would just as soon beg out of his contract then go to a team he doesn't want to go to. And his age certainly makes it hard to argue for a pick that high IMHO. Now if the stars aligned (i.e., he wants out, the Eagles are willing to deal him, there's a GM dumb enough to pay huge returns in exchange for a 12-year vet QB, and the team in question fits what McNabb would want), then yes I guess it's POSSIBLE, but highly unlikely.

I think trading Kolb makes a TON of sense. The market things more of Kolb than they should, thanks to his back to back 300 yard games. If they can get the kind of returns Atlanta got for Matt Schaub, I would think they do that in a country second.

Vick is the X-factor. No way can he be the QB2 IMHO. But I do expect the Eagles to exercise the $5mm option. Worst case, $5mm for a backup that can do a few things in different sets is not a killer. Best case, a team wants Vick's services and is willing to trade for him.

So if Kolb is gone, and Vick is not your longterm answer to be the Eagles future Qb, who is going to be the Eagles starter after McNabb? Based on every other position, the Eagles have planned ahead with replacements. So I don't think they are just going to hope someone comes along when McNabb is done after next season. And McNabb will not be an Eagle after next season because the team elected to give him a raise rather than extend his contract. That makes no sense if the Eagles were planning to keep him more than next year.If they think Kolb is the heir apparent, then they will either start him next year and move McNabb for whatever they can get, or they will keep McNabb one more year before Kolb takes over. If Vick is the heir apparent (which I don't see) then they will look to unload Kolb. If neither is the next QB in their eyes, then they will likely draft or trade for a QB this off season and McNabb will definitely start in 2010.

Based on how he played this year (granted it was only two games), I have no reason to believe Kolb won't be the starter after McNabb leaves.

All of this is fungible. There are few players that any team as well run as the Eagles would consider untouchable. For the right price, particularly if they feel there's a viable alternative to replace them, a guy like Kolb is obviously available. But sure, I see no reason to think THEY don't think he could be a solid starter down the road; and that means they aren't going to give him up on the cheap. That said, I don't see them paying him a big extension either, which really makes the idea of trading him (a la Schaub or the way we dealt Feeley for a 2nd rounder to Miami or the way the Pack dealt Favre's backups frequently) that much smarter.

What do you think Kolb's value is in a trade? High second? Would they take less than what they spent to draft him? How much money do you think it would take to resign or extend McNabb? For how many years?Keep in mind, while they're joined at the hip the Reid/McNabb relationship has not always been smooth.

ETA: Do you think either one will play in '10 without some sort of contract extention? Why would they risk stepping onto the field in a preseason game knowing one shot to their knee could end their career? I wouldn't be surprised if either one or both started rumblings of a holdout unless something gets resolved before training camp.

 

[dhockster]

What do you think Kolb's value is in a trade? High second? Would they take less than what they spent to draft him? How much money do you think it would take to resign or extend McNabb? For how many years?Keep in mind, while they're joined at the hip the Reid/McNabb relationship has not always been smooth.ETA: Do you think either one will play in '10 without some sort of contract extention? Why would they risk stepping onto the field in a preseason game knowing one shot to their knee could end their career? I wouldn't be surprised if either one or both started rumblings of a holdout unless something gets resolved before training camp.

McNabb has no leverage if he holds out. The Eagles will just move on and play with Kolb as their starting QB. Kolb won't hold out because he needs to show the Eagles and the league what kind of QB he is, So that he can get a big 2nd contract. Kolb's worth in a trade is probably as high as it is ever going to be as a backup. He has shown enough to show how good he can be, and team's haven't seen enough of him to know his weaknesses. Can we get a 2nd? Probably. But he is probably worth more to the Eagles than a second round pick.Unless the Eagles were to win the Superbowl this year, I would really like to see what Kolb can do in this offense in 2010. The key to utilizing Jackson and Maclin the most is to be able to hit them in stride running crossing routes. Despite throwing a nice deep ball, McNabb has struggled to lead receivers properly on crossing routes. Kolb did it well against the Saints to Jackson for a TD and McNabb threw it behind Maclin against the Cowboys for an incomplete pass. If Kolb can do it well consistently than the Eagles passing game will be really hard to stop.The Eagles can then put all their effort in the draft and free agency to getting some more players on defense. More specifically help at safety and size on the defensive line. I think LB will be fine if Bradley comes back healthy.

 

[GoBirds]

Alot of confidence amongst fans in here for a team that got beat handily. Curious to know what makes you think that you will win?

For me its about the difference of both teams' experience in the playoffs. As has been said in other threads, this will be the Birds eighth playoff appearance in ten years. A lot of the players as well as the coaches are very experienced and the playoff atmosphere is something that will not shake them as much as it will most of the Cowboys. I'd also point to the fact that of those seven previous appearances, they have never lost this first game. Reid gets these guys prepared and I don't see that changing. They were bigger dogs last year and they made it to the NFCCG. Dallas' playoff record in that time? not worth mentioning. Also, I'll agree that Dallas laid us out yesterday, but I'd rather have them make their mistakes, drop passes etc. in the regular season and get it out of their season before the playoffs. This offense has the potential to outscore any team in the league and all we need is for a couple of those Asante pass-jumps to stick and its a much different game. Those are reasons that I am cautiously optimistic.

Serious question, had Patrick Crayton caught that pass he dropped against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs and they won the game, would that make DeMarcus Ware play better this Saturday? I hear alot of media throw around playoff experience as a determining factor but the simple fact is Arizona was on par with Dallas as far as playoff experience and they BEAT your battle tested Eagles last year. If you want to point to momentum or psychological edge as an advantage I would argue that beating a team by 24 points would give Dallas a psychological edge as opposed to Philly.

Really comparing them to Arizona? How would you compare Warner's playoff career to Tony Choko? Maybe the Cowboys can beat us 3 times in a year but I seriously doubt it.

Tony Choko? how bout Donovan McChoke? that was a nice bobbled snap that resulted in a turnover ,and way to be accurate.

So this is where I respond by asking you to compare McNabb's playoff wins to Tabloid Tony.

 

[scratcher]

Is anyone else feeling pretty good about the game this Saturday? Despite the pitiful play and bad loss, I really think the Eagles will bring it this Saturday. Looking forward to the game, GO EAGLES!

 

[renesauz]

I was in the Philly area around New Year's and I heard a little of the callers on WIP (actually not terrible in small doses, but highly redundant).The talk was of trading McNabb for a 1st (if they could get it, said some, and they did debate this) and go with Kolb for 2010.The host(s) seemed very adamant that Vick would also be back next year. Interesting.So the questions are:Could McNabb fetch a 1st? More? Less?Do you dare gamble with Kolb in 2010?Do you try and move Kolb? If so, what's your asking price?Are you comfy with Vick as your QB2?

Ditch Vick...he no longer has it.Keep Kolb, period. no matter what happens with McNabb, Kolb is a young gunslinger who appears to be a solid future, no matter when that future comes.I'd prefer to keep McNabb, and have 2 quality QB's rostered, but I realize that's a luxury in today's NFL. I would keep (and start) McNabb if possible, but wouldn't let Kolb slip away to do so.I honestly think those anxious to ship McNabb off are foolish, but if someone were to offer a first + for him, I could see it.

 

[babydemon90]

I do not think McNabb wants an extension. That said, next year we'll have to decide to we think going with him for a final year is really worth a year of not starting Kolb? I'm sure McNabb > Kolb, but I think the better long term benefit might be to start Kolb, and see midseason how he is doing so we can decide whether to extend him or not.

 

[delusional]

I was in the Philly area around New Year's and I heard a little of the callers on WIP (actually not terrible in small doses, but highly redundant).The talk was of trading McNabb for a 1st (if they could get it, said some, and they did debate this) and go with Kolb for 2010.The host(s) seemed very adamant that Vick would also be back next year. Interesting.So the questions are:Could McNabb fetch a 1st? More? Less?Do you dare gamble with Kolb in 2010?Do you try and move Kolb? If so, what's your asking price?Are you comfy with Vick as your QB2?

WIP is what gives most of the fans a bad image. Media doesn't help either.

 

[Manster]

Tony Choko? how bout Donovan McChoke? that was a nice bobbled snap that resulted in a turnover ,and way to be accurate.

So this is where I respond by asking you to compare McNabb's playoff wins to Tabloid Tony.

what happened last week? mcnabb really went after that 1st round bye. we'll see what happens this week. my guess is Tony gets his first playoff win.

 

[Zoomanji]

Way too many Cowgirls fans in the wrong thread but that isn't surprising considering...

So is anyone worried or cares that Heckert is probably leaving for CLE?

Does that leave Reid to make all the personnel decisions?

 

[CaptainHook]

Kolb is a much better fit in this particular offense that Mcnabb.

Jason Wood: Would you mind elaborating on why you hate Kolb so much?

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Just thought i'd stop by and say cause i'm sure so many of you missed me

the eagles are receiving the karma they deserve at this very moment. Sign a murderous psychopath like vick, and karma will bite you in the a##. hopefully their whole house of cards falls down around them after this debacle.

for those of you still sending your money into the pockets of jeffrey lurie...well...all i can do is feel sorry for you. Maybe someday you will open your eyes

 

[scratcher]

Just thought i'd stop by and say cause i'm sure so many of you missed methe eagles are receiving the karma they deserve at this very moment. Sign a murderous psychopath like vick, and karma will bite you in the a##. hopefully their whole house of cards falls down around them after this debacle. for those of you still sending your money into the pockets of jeffrey lurie...well...all i can do is feel sorry for you. Maybe someday you will open your eyes

It's a football game not my moral compass. If you look to your football team for role models, you need more help than can be provided on these boards.

 

[delusional]

Way too many Cowgirls fans in the wrong thread but that isn't surprising considering...So is anyone worried or cares that Heckert is probably leaving for CLE?Does that leave Reid to make all the personnel decisions?

kinda hoping reid went with him along with martydraft should be interesting. we need C, G, LB LB DE DT S and probably CB