***Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[jasvic]

March 5, 2009 | Last Updated: 3/5/09 5:24 PM ET | Comments (25)By: CHRIS McPHERSONJones will be made available to the media at 3:30 PM.

Update?

Eagles site says they signed him to a one year deal. Searching for linkage.Appears to just be on the breaking news banner on the site.

 

[Mighty Mice]

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/

one year deal. Hmmm.....

 

[Mcnabbfan]

per philadelphiaeagles.com THe Eagles and Sean Jones have reached an agreement on a one year contract

 

[Mighty Mice]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year?

Curious to hear the details.

 

[dotman]

I'm intrigued by Jones. IDP guys on staff high on him, my buddies who follow the AFC North not so much.

I think safety is one position where it's tougher to be good if the players around you aren't. If the the guys up front don't get pressure you get less opportunites to make plays. The Browns D has been pretty bad and playing on the Eagles alone should benefit him.

 

[jasvic]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year? Curious to hear the details.

Maybe that's all Jones would sign, since he didn't get much interest. Banking on playing well with a better team/defense, getting more exposure and cash in next year? This is just me guessing.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Good move. Now we just gotta hope Demps steps up and can take the starting job from him at some point in the season.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year? Curious to hear the details.

Maybe that's all Jones would sign, since he didn't get much interest. Banking on playing well with a better team/defense, getting more exposure and cash in next year? This is just me guessing.

They wanted him for two years, but he was hellbent on signing a one year deal. Probably not a horrible move on his part.....

 

[Mighty Mice]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year? Curious to hear the details.

Maybe that's all Jones would sign, since he didn't get much interest. Banking on playing well with a better team/defense, getting more exposure and cash in next year? This is just me guessing.

They wanted him for two years, but he was hellbent on signing a one year deal. Probably not a horrible move on his part.....

Good inifo. Can't blame him for looking out for his own best interests. Coming off an injury plagued 2008 after very good 2006/2007 seasons, he probably was not able to get the payday he wanted. Hope he has a great 2009 and is happy in Philly.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year? Curious to hear the details.

Maybe that's all Jones would sign, since he didn't get much interest. Banking on playing well with a better team/defense, getting more exposure and cash in next year? This is just me guessing.

They wanted him for two years, but he was hellbent on signing a one year deal. Probably not a horrible move on his part.....

Good inifo. Can't blame him for looking out for his own best interests. Coming off an injury plagued 2008 after very good 2006/2007 seasons, he probably was not able to get the payday he wanted. Hope he has a great 2009 and is happy in Philly.

There's worse situations to be in than having a talented player in a contract year.

 

[jasvic]

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?story_id=17509

 

[Domination]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year? Curious to hear the details.

Maybe that's all Jones would sign, since he didn't get much interest. Banking on playing well with a better team/defense, getting more exposure and cash in next year? This is just me guessing.

They wanted him for two years, but he was hellbent on signing a one year deal. Probably not a horrible move on his part.....

Good inifo. Can't blame him for looking out for his own best interests. Coming off an injury plagued 2008 after very good 2006/2007 seasons, he probably was not able to get the payday he wanted. Hope he has a great 2009 and is happy in Philly.

There's worse situations to be in than having a talented player in a contract year.

I couldn't agree more, and I think that he sees what Dawkins has been able to do in this system. I'll bet he has a huge year, but then he will not be back next year.

 

[nxmehta]

Congrats on landing Jones. He's been a pretty solid safety for us over the last few years, and he definitely has a good nose for the ball. Are you guys moving him to free safety? He traditionally has been pretty good at stopping the run, but because the front seven of the Browns has been so weak he too often gets called up and then we get burned in the secondary. I don't know how much of that is biting on fakes versus the base scheme. Maybe he'll be a better FS than SS?

In any case, he picks off a lot of balls, hits really hard, and is consistent. I'm sure we would have kept him if he was cheaper and/or if the front office hadn't changed.

 

[Jason Wood]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.

Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Jason, Would you agree that Dawkins has been a liability in the passing game the past two years? He has only had two INT's and 12 pass deflections in the past two years. Nobody loves Dawkins more than me, but your eyes do not lie. I hate to say this but I do not think it will be that hard to replace Dawkins on the field. Now in the locker room, thats a different story.

 

[ReggieHammond]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Seeing as there are only 2 others safeties on the roster, one of which has never started a game I doubt there is any chance that he is waived before the season starts.It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out since Jones seems to be strictly a SS so it's not really a direct competition between him and Demps. You wouldn't think they'd want to flip flop Mikell between SS & FS all preseason trying to work out who should start with him.

 

[Jason Wood]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Jason, Would you agree that Dawkins has been a liability in the passing game the past two years? He has only had two INT's and 12 pass deflections in the past two years. Nobody loves Dawkins more than me, but your eyes do not lie. I hate to say this but I do not think it will be that hard to replace Dawkins on the field. Now in the locker room, thats a different story.

A liability? No.No longer an elite difference maker? Absolutely.And let me couch that further. 2007 Dawkins appeared washed up. In 2008, he was a man repossessed.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Jason, Would you agree that Dawkins has been a liability in the passing game the past two years? He has only had two INT's and 12 pass deflections in the past two years. Nobody loves Dawkins more than me, but your eyes do not lie. I hate to say this but I do not think it will be that hard to replace Dawkins on the field. Now in the locker room, thats a different story.

A liability? No.No longer an elite difference maker? Absolutely.And let me couch that further. 2007 Dawkins appeared washed up. In 2008, he was a man repossessed.

I would assume you watched all of the Eagles games this past season. Did you happen to notice how often he played up on the line? IMO he was clearly a liability in the passing game and JJ he was able to hide him rather well.

 

[Jason Wood]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Jason, Would you agree that Dawkins has been a liability in the passing game the past two years? He has only had two INT's and 12 pass deflections in the past two years. Nobody loves Dawkins more than me, but your eyes do not lie. I hate to say this but I do not think it will be that hard to replace Dawkins on the field. Now in the locker room, thats a different story.

A liability? No.No longer an elite difference maker? Absolutely.And let me couch that further. 2007 Dawkins appeared washed up. In 2008, he was a man repossessed.

I would assume you watched all of the Eagles games this past season. Did you happen to notice how often he played up on the line? IMO he was clearly a liability in the passing game and JJ he was able to hide him rather well.

Of course I did. Was at 7 of them live, too.When you have the corners we do, and the linebackers we do, Dawkins needs to play in the box. That's where his assets were best suited. We are one of the few teams capable of pure CB coverage [man or 3 CB nickel] while still remaining among the best pass defenses. And our LBs, while younger and better than in recent past, still need PLENTY of help against the run.Let's not turn this back into a Dawkins vs. thing...I think he was worth keeping at that price. Obviously that's a 50/50 debate right now with people falling on both sides of it. And I'm also genuinely hopeful that Sean Jones is the answer. But I think you have to be realistic about signing a 27-year old FA to a 1-year deal and it REALLY being a home run. Let's not forget how many were convinced Clemons was the "steal" last year. And we gave him years. I HOPE Jones is a beast, but that contract doesn't indicate the Eagles are convinced he will be, so why should we fans?

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Well, at least the Birds have 2 starting safeties now. Hard to tell about a guy who's played on the Brownies his whole career, but hopefully he learns the system and plays himself into a huge contract next year

 

[fflmonster]

earlier today on wip610 radio out of philadelphia, mike lombardi said that sean jones was just a 3rd safety and demps will probably be the starter.

he said that jones was a liability in the passing game and johnson would have to find ways to hide him like he did with dawkins when jones is on the field.

he didn't think jones was a very good player.

he also noted that he thinks the eagles still need two offensive takles and that the andrews signing was not very good

this was on the howard eskin show today here is the podcast:

http://www.610wip.com/pages/136374.php

just click the mike lombardi pod cast

i was laughing at how many times howard kept saying "jones has a good chance at being the starter right?"

he wanted lombardi to say yes, but mike kept saying he will have to compete with demps and that he wasn't a starter in his opinion

if you think lombardi is a good judge of talent then this doesn't bode well

 

[loose circuits]

earlier today on wip610 radio out of philadelphia, mike lombardi said that sean jones was just a 3rd safety and demps will probably be the starter.

he said that jones was a liability in the passing game and johnson would have to find ways to hide him like he did with dawkins when jones is on the field.

he didn't think jones was a very good player.

he also noted that he thinks the eagles still need two offensive takles and that the andrews signing was not very good

this was on the howard eskin show today here is the podcast:

http://www.610wip.com/pages/136374.php

just click the mike lombardi pod cast

i was laughing at how many times howard kept saying "jones has a good chance at being the starter right?"

he wanted lombardi to say yes, but mike kept saying he will have to compete with demps and that he wasn't a starter in his opinion

if you think lombardi is a good judge of talent then this doesn't bode well

i'm confused how a guy that played at an all pro level and led the league in picks at his position in his last 2 healthy seasons will be a 3rd safety, but we'll see. That would mean Demps lit it up in TC

 

[jasvic]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Seeing as there are only 2 others safeties on the roster, one of which has never started a game I doubt there is any chance that he is waived before the season starts.It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out since Jones seems to be strictly a SS so it's not really a direct competition between him and Demps. You wouldn't think they'd want to flip flop Mikell between SS & FS all preseason trying to work out who should start with him.

Didn't Mikell come into the league as a FS backing up Dawkins, but was switched to SS when Constadine got injured/stunk up the joint, then just kept the position? Or am thinking of someone else?

 

[stevegamer]

earlier today on wip610 radio out of philadelphia, mike lombardi said that sean jones was just a 3rd safety and demps will probably be the starter.

he said that jones was a liability in the passing game and johnson would have to find ways to hide him like he did with dawkins when jones is on the field.

he didn't think jones was a very good player.

he also noted that he thinks the eagles still need two offensive takles and that the andrews signing was not very good

this was on the howard eskin show today here is the podcast:

http://www.610wip.com/pages/136374.php

just click the mike lombardi pod cast

i was laughing at how many times howard kept saying "jones has a good chance at being the starter right?"

he wanted lombardi to say yes, but mike kept saying he will have to compete with demps and that he wasn't a starter in his opinion

if you think lombardi is a good judge of talent then this doesn't bode well

Mike Lombardi going on WIP makes me IMMEDIATELY think less of him a a talent evaluator - I am not sure I can trust him, this is a typical set up for them, find some controversy to get ratings.

 

[modogg]

A liability? No.No longer an elite difference maker? Absolutely.And let me couch that further. 2007 Dawkins appeared washed up. In 2008, he was a man repossessed.

I would assume you watched all of the Eagles games this past season. Did you happen to notice how often he played up on the line? IMO he was clearly a liability in the passing game and JJ he was able to hide him rather well.

The more and more i think about the Dawkins situation, the more i think the Eagles were happy he got such a large contract and were able to let him walk. I am not sure how else they would have been able to move past Dawkins, and it has been obvious the last 2 years Dawkins was beginning to show his age. I am not rehashing the whole love Dawkins thing or whatever, just saying that if Dawkins were to be re-signed, the Eagels would have had a hard time investing in another safety outside of the draft, and in addition if Dawk were to play 2 more years you were hindering the development of a safety to fill his position. I could see Dawk being a situational player, but whenever the game is on the line i think the team would have had a hard time having him on the bench. It really seems that the best solution for the FS position was to hope Dawk could move on with a big contract, give another guy a try and also see if your young guys can fill in or not. A little similar with when they let Troy and Bobby Taylor go when they were still good too, except maybe they were more confident in Sheldon and Lito than what they already had on the team. But i think the Eagles knew they could get Jones today, or knew if they didn't get him they could have probably found someone similar. Any opinions that the Eagles were glad with the offer to Dawk to move on so they could either get someone else a try for the next few years or develop some of their young talent?

 

[modogg]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.

Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Seeing as there are only 2 others safeties on the roster, one of which has never started a game I doubt there is any chance that he is waived before the season starts.It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out since Jones seems to be strictly a SS so it's not really a direct competition between him and Demps. You wouldn't think they'd want to flip flop Mikell between SS & FS all preseason trying to work out who should start with him.

Didn't Mikell come into the league as a FS backing up Dawkins, but was switched to SS when Constadine got injured/stunk up the joint, then just kept the position? Or am thinking of someone else?

this is a good question, and this article i just saw points to the fact that i am not sure the Eagles knew what they wanted to do with him: http://eagleseye.blogspot.com/2007/11/quinton-gets-call.htmli just spent the last 20 minutes looking this up and did not come close to any kind of answer regarding what he was drafted as (SS or FS), and i have no idea what he played at Boise State after looking all around.

 

[ReggieHammond]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.

Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Seeing as there are only 2 others safeties on the roster, one of which has never started a game I doubt there is any chance that he is waived before the season starts.It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out since Jones seems to be strictly a SS so it's not really a direct competition between him and Demps. You wouldn't think they'd want to flip flop Mikell between SS & FS all preseason trying to work out who should start with him.

Didn't Mikell come into the league as a FS backing up Dawkins, but was switched to SS when Constadine got injured/stunk up the joint, then just kept the position? Or am thinking of someone else?

this is a good question, and this article i just saw points to the fact that i am not sure the Eagles knew what they wanted to do with him: http://eagleseye.blogspot.com/2007/11/quinton-gets-call.htmli just spent the last 20 minutes looking this up and did not come close to any kind of answer regarding what he was drafted as (SS or FS), and i have no idea what he played at Boise State after looking all around.

Yeah I think you're right jasvic, I'm pretty sure he was a FS in college. I think they would be happy with him playing either position, it just depends who else is going to be starting.

 

[scratcher]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/06/...ith-four-teams/

A week into free agency, cornerback Bryant McFadden still doesn’t have a new home.

Per a league source, McFadden hopes to make a decision soon.

Four teams are in the running: the Steelers, Cardinals, Dolphins, and Eagles.

McFadden, a four-year veteran, appeared in ten regular-season games and started eight of them in 2008. He also started all three postseason games, including Super Bowl XLIII.

 

[musicman_17046]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Jones said something to the effect that he wasn't sure if he would be comfortable here so he only wanted a 1 yr deal,but should he find he likes the place then he would be willing to work something out.

 

[jasvic]

Having a hard time swallowing that any NFL player would sign with a new team for a 1-year deal willingly, if a team wanted to offer more years. My mind is open to Jones being a real steal, but this isn't the kind of transaction that screams either the Eagles or Jones are committed to this and he could easily be waived before we start the season if he doesn't beat out Demps.

Here's hoping he plays so well the team races to give him a multi-year extension halfway through the season, but let's not pretend he's 100% going to effectively replace Dawk. He's a "show me" player for sure.

Jones said something to the effect that he wasn't sure if he would be comfortable here so he only wanted a 1 yr deal,but should he find he likes the place then he would be willing to work something out.

Philly.com has a good story about this, comparing it to the Shawn barber signing a few years ago. Coming off injury, not getting the interest they anticipated, one year deal in Philly. Same agent too. http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/200903...both_sides.html

And for Mikell, his Wikipedia page has him joining the team as Dawkins backup. But the article above also makes the point that Jim Johnson's scheme tends to move players around so much that they have no true SS-FS.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

One year deal? Are they grooming Demps and want a stop-gap? Plan on drafting the replacement this year? Worried about the pending uncapped year? Curious to hear the details.

I think the team sees him as a one-year bridge to Demps, and the player wants to try to get on the market again in time for the potential uncapped year. Works for both sides.

 

[musicman_17046]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/06/...ith-four-teams/

A week into free agency, cornerback Bryant McFadden still doesn’t have a new home.

Per a league source, McFadden hopes to make a decision soon.

Four teams are in the running: the Steelers, Cardinals, Dolphins, and Eagles.

McFadden, a four-year veteran, appeared in ten regular-season games and started eight of them in 2008. He also started all three postseason games, including Super Bowl XLIII.

Yo DH, any word from your source about McFadden ? I think he would be a great fit. You need 3 good corners to beat teams like the Cards.

 

[JaxBill]

Hey DH, do the Birds have any interest in former Jaguar LT Khalif Barnes?

Local fishwrapper had a blurb in it that Barnes flew out to Oakland on Friday but talks with them broke down and he's close to signing with an "Undisclosed team".

So I started thinking about teams that need offensive tackles and like to keep things signings secret until the last second.....

 

[JetMaxx]

Why would a team like Jax, who needs a LT, not resign him?

 

[loose circuits]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/06/...ith-four-teams/

A week into free agency, cornerback Bryant McFadden still doesn’t have a new home.

Per a league source, McFadden hopes to make a decision soon.

Four teams are in the running: the Steelers, Cardinals, Dolphins, and Eagles.

McFadden, a four-year veteran, appeared in ten regular-season games and started eight of them in 2008. He also started all three postseason games, including Super Bowl XLIII.

Yo DH, any word from your source about McFadden ? I think he would be a great fit. You need 3 good corners to beat teams like the Cards.

Joselio Hanson is not bad and would probably start for a lot of teams. He beat out Lito for the #3 role last year

 

[JaxBill]

Why would a team like Jax, who needs a LT, not resign him?

He wanted out and had worn out his welcome. He was arrested for DUI in '06 and played the race card. He called Jacksonville "a redneck town".ETA: Apparently I was mistaken. He called Jacksonville a "hick town" and the arresting officer a "KKK devil".

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2007/03/21/jaguars...-cop-kkk-devil/

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Just to stir up conversation: Tomlinson looks to be on his way out in SD. With the cap space Philly has, I think they would be foolish not to grab this guy when he is cut. Yeah, it would be a lot of $$$ tied up in RB's, but a LT/Westy backfield would be deadly. Think of the formations they could use.....

 

[unckeyherb]

Just to stir up conversation: Tomlinson looks to be on his way out in SD. With the cap space Philly has, I think they would be foolish not to grab this guy when he is cut. Yeah, it would be a lot of $$$ tied up in RB's, but a LT/Westy backfield would be deadly. Think of the formations they could use.....

Holy sh:t, I mentioned this in another thread. I can't even imagine what this offense would look like with LT and Westy in the backfield. Swing one or both into receiver roles and let Donovan dink and dunk all he wants... never happen though.

 

[phillyphan07]

Tra Thomas just signed with Jax

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3963930

edit: No details yet other than its a 3 year deal.

 

[Lehigh98]

Why would a team like Jax, who needs a LT, not resign him?

Guess they had their eye on Tra.Well, at least we know its offical now.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Why would a team like Jax, who needs a LT, not resign him?

He wanted out and had worn out his welcome. He was arrested for DUI in '06 and played the race card. He called Jacksonville "a redneck town".ETA: Apparently I was mistaken. He called Jacksonville a "hick town" and the arresting officer a "KKK devil".

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2007/03/21/jaguars...-cop-kkk-devil/

Who knows WTF the Eagles are doing anymore. I haven't heard anything about them being interested in Barnes (or McFadden, for the guy who asked about him earlier). Just my opinion, Barnes doesn't seem like a guy they would want. Seems to be more trouble than he's worth.

 

[jasvic]

Now I know the Eagles have always been a, let's say, frugal team. But I don't remember a last offseason that was this frustrating. With the amount of the holes they've created for themselves, it feels like their only making half-hearted attempts at filling them. They completely underestimated what other teams would be willing to spend this year and misjudged the market completely.

Unless they have a huge ####### rabbit up their sleeve, they aren't filling me with confidence.

 

[Jason Wood]

I started a thread specifically to discuss the Tra Thomas signing.

I need to see the contract details before I react too harshly to this one, but admittedly unless Tra got $8-$10mm per [which I highly doubt], it's hard to understand why Philly wouldn't have brought him back. Good news is McGlynn should be ready at LG, which allows Herremans to move to LT. But bad news is if Philly doesn't want to do that we're faced with either a raw 2nd year giant in King Dunlap, a 3rd year guy who all Eagles fans think is a sieve in Winston Justice, or a rookie.

Fun times.

 

[Bankerguy]

I started a thread specifically to discuss the Tra Thomas signing.I need to see the contract details before I react too harshly to this one, but admittedly unless Tra got $8-$10mm per [which I highly doubt], it's hard to understand why Philly wouldn't have brought him back. Good news is McGlynn should be ready at LG, which allows Herremans to move to LT. But bad news is if Philly doesn't want to do that we're faced with either a raw 2nd year giant in King Dunlap, a 3rd year guy who all Eagles fans think is a sieve in Winston Justice, or a rookie.Fun times.

A puzzling move for sure. Osi and Ware are licking their chops.I assume you'll draft an OT early then? Also, what is going on with Runyan for us not in the know?

 

[Jason Wood]

I started a thread specifically to discuss the Tra Thomas signing.I need to see the contract details before I react too harshly to this one, but admittedly unless Tra got $8-$10mm per [which I highly doubt], it's hard to understand why Philly wouldn't have brought him back. Good news is McGlynn should be ready at LG, which allows Herremans to move to LT. But bad news is if Philly doesn't want to do that we're faced with either a raw 2nd year giant in King Dunlap, a 3rd year guy who all Eagles fans think is a sieve in Winston Justice, or a rookie.Fun times.

A puzzling move for sure. Osi and Ware are licking their chops.I assume you'll draft an OT early then? Also, what is going on with Runyan for us not in the know?

Runyan had microfracture surgery so, realistically, teams aren't lined up to sign him. I suspect the Eagles will sign him to a short-term deal but not expect him to be ready to play at the start of the season. But that's really moot as the one big FA move the Birds made was Stacy Andrews, who will play RT barring anything surprising.

 

[scratcher]

I started a thread specifically to discuss the Tra Thomas signing.I need to see the contract details before I react too harshly to this one, but admittedly unless Tra got $8-$10mm per [which I highly doubt], it's hard to understand why Philly wouldn't have brought him back. Good news is McGlynn should be ready at LG, which allows Herremans to move to LT. But bad news is if Philly doesn't want to do that we're faced with either a raw 2nd year giant in King Dunlap, a 3rd year guy who all Eagles fans think is a sieve in Winston Justice, or a rookie.Fun times.

A puzzling move for sure. Osi and Ware are licking their chops.I assume you'll draft an OT early then? Also, what is going on with Runyan for us not in the know?

Runyan had microfracture surgery so, realistically, teams aren't lined up to sign him. I suspect the Eagles will sign him to a short-term deal but not expect him to be ready to play at the start of the season. But that's really moot as the one big FA move the Birds made was Stacy Andrews, who will play RT barring anything surprising.

I know Andrews played LG for a short period before RT. Anyone know if he can play LT so we can keep Runyan at RT?

 

[Jason Wood]

I started a thread specifically to discuss the Tra Thomas signing.I need to see the contract details before I react too harshly to this one, but admittedly unless Tra got $8-$10mm per [which I highly doubt], it's hard to understand why Philly wouldn't have brought him back. Good news is McGlynn should be ready at LG, which allows Herremans to move to LT. But bad news is if Philly doesn't want to do that we're faced with either a raw 2nd year giant in King Dunlap, a 3rd year guy who all Eagles fans think is a sieve in Winston Justice, or a rookie.Fun times.

A puzzling move for sure. Osi and Ware are licking their chops.I assume you'll draft an OT early then? Also, what is going on with Runyan for us not in the know?

Runyan had microfracture surgery so, realistically, teams aren't lined up to sign him. I suspect the Eagles will sign him to a short-term deal but not expect him to be ready to play at the start of the season. But that's really moot as the one big FA move the Birds made was Stacy Andrews, who will play RT barring anything surprising.

I know Andrews played LG for a short period before RT. Anyone know if he can play LT so we can keep Runyan at RT?

Andrews really isn't a fluid enough athlete to play LT IMHO, and I really don't think Runyan can be counted on. He's 35 and just had microfracture surgery.

 

[CentralPA]

I think Runyan may be a back up at best. He's been one hell of a football player for this team and it's sad to say but retirement is probably the best thing for the guy at this point.

 

[Mcnabbfan]

with all these players leaving via free agency, the Eagles are going to be big winners with compensatory draft picks, which i believe will be at least a third and fourth rounder. IF this happens, then they would be able to move a first and their original third rounder in a possible trade, hopefully Boldin, without being shut out of each round with no picks. Just a thought. I would like to think the front office has a plan instead of depleting the team depth with all these free agents leaving.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

The Eagles have prepared for this moment over the past few drafts. Problem is that some of these drafted players may not be ready to step in. We have been very lucky to have the same tackles for such a long time, this very rarely happens in todays NFL. I think its time we do look to finding our next two bookends and lets move on. Like it or not we will be looking at a very different Eagles team over the next two seasons.