*** Official 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[renesauz]

Really hate this first round matchup. I'm not sure there's an NFC playoff team I would less like to face (including New Orleans and Atlanta). Green Bay matches up very well against Philly and we'll have to play our best to beat them.

That said, Andy has a great record in playoff openers and the team is coming off a virtual bye (where Andy also has a stellar record), so I'm optimistic.

 

[Insein]

Really hate this first round matchup. I'm not sure there's an NFC playoff team I would less like to face (including New Orleans and Atlanta). Green Bay matches up very well against Philly and we'll have to play our best to beat them.That said, Andy has a great record in playoff openers and the team is coming off a virtual bye (where Andy also has a stellar record), so I'm optimistic.

Playoff openers at home. Thats the key here. Andy is unbeaten at home in playoff openers. Last year was a buzzsaw they ran into having to go back to Dallas after getting thumped the week before. I think we have a good chance this week but yes Green Bay will be tough.

 

[babydemon90]

only lost by 7 to GB with Finley and Grant.... No reason they can't get closer this time...

 

[unckeyherb]

Really hate this first round matchup. I'm not sure there's an NFC playoff team I would less like to face (including New Orleans and Atlanta). Green Bay matches up very well against Philly and we'll have to play our best to beat them.That said, Andy has a great record in playoff openers and the team is coming off a virtual bye (where Andy also has a stellar record), so I'm optimistic.

Playoff openers at home. Thats the key here. Andy is unbeaten at home in playoff openers. Last year was a buzzsaw they ran into having to go back to Dallas after getting thumped the week before. I think we have a good chance this week but yes Green Bay will be tough.

FWIW, I believe that loss was Andy's only first round loss ever, regardless of home vs. away.Its going to be tough, but as others have said, its pretty close to coming off of a bye-Which Andy excels at. Also, based on the last two weeks of games, I get the feeling that he started his film watching and game planning for GB two weeks ago.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I love our speed on the outside vs Woodson and Williams. Hopefully Vick will have enough time to get the ball down field for a couple of big plays. I bet we also see some misdirection to try and get the Packers LB's to over commit. It should be a great game.

 

[Billy Bats]

From Bill Simmons...

Who better to break our virginity with the new overtime rules than Andy Reid and Mike McCarthy? Doesn't it have to play out that way? Throwing those semi-confusing overtime rules at Reid and McCarthy is going to be like cramming a hunk of peanut butter on the roof of a dog's mouth. I can't wait.

 

[Novice2]

Why would the Eagles want the Saints to win and host a NFC conference championship game when Vick can go back home to end the homefield advantge of the dome.

Of course all this is moot because the Eagles will get the #3 seed and be 1 and done.

Just curious if you've taken a look at Andy Reid's record in the first round of the playoffs?

Never misunderestimate the ability of the Eaagles to build up hope only to tear it down.

 

[delusional]

Ah lovely. What I #####ed about all season as the problems to this team, well those problems showed today. Going to be a long offseason.

Winston Justice's horrible play surprised me, dude actually got benched in the middle of a playoff game. Thats pretty damn bad.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Vick worries me going forward. I trust that he'll do enough to get us 10 wins but him and Reid together just look too much like McNabb and Reid. This type of QB just will not work in the playoffs with this playcalling.

If/ when FA hits they need to address almost everything. We havent had a pass rushing DT in years and we need another DE for when Cole decides to vanish come playoff time. The LBers actually make me ill but I think there may be something to see in Chaney.

 

[delusional]

Vick worries me going forward. I trust that he'll do enough to get us 10 wins but him and Reid together just look too much like McNabb and Reid. This type of QB just will not work in the playoffs with this playcalling. If/ when FA hits they need to address almost everything. We havent had a pass rushing DT in years and we need another DE for when Cole decides to vanish come playoff time. The LBers actually make me ill but I think there may be something to see in Chaney.

Chaney is depth at best. Not a long term solution as a starter unless paired up with a great talent at LB. They need alot of work this offseason. They have to make up for last years failed draft. Quick note, whose going to make the Eagles 2011 offseason thread?

 

[whitem0nkey]

this could not have happened to better group of fans. enjoy promoting a dog killer.

 

[delusional]

this could not have happened to better group of fans. enjoy promoting a dog killer.

way to show your simplicity

 

[jojoh07]

this could not have happened to better group of fans. enjoy promoting a dog killer.

whats it like walking around knowing ur #$%% dont stink ?

 

[Insein]

this could not have happened to better group of fans. enjoy promoting a dog killer.

Enjoy the Seahawks taking out your fraud team.

 

[Lehigh98]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

 

[Amused to Death]

this could not have happened to better group of fans. enjoy promoting a dog killer.

Didn't you already have one post deleted from this thread recently?

 

[Insein]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

Its maddeningly frustrating. Missinelli was talking to Mark Schlereth on the radio the other day and Schlereth was talking about how a little more running would help to improve the team overall. Missinelli exploded hysterically with the frustration we've all felt over the last 12 years. McCoy got 12 carries and 4 catches. 16 touches for probably the best weapon on the offense. That is why we lost.

 

[Amused to Death]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

Its maddeningly frustrating. Missinelli was talking to Mark Schlereth on the radio the other day and Schlereth was talking about how a little more running would help to improve the team overall. Missinelli exploded hysterically with the frustration we've all felt over the last 12 years. McCoy got 12 carries and 4 catches. 16 touches for probably the best weapon on the offense. That is why we lost.

Stink also thinks the Eagles can not win a championship with Reid's current system. He was pretty candid.

 

[Insein]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

Its maddeningly frustrating. Missinelli was talking to Mark Schlereth on the radio the other day and Schlereth was talking about how a little more running would help to improve the team overall. Missinelli exploded hysterically with the frustration we've all felt over the last 12 years. McCoy got 12 carries and 4 catches. 16 touches for probably the best weapon on the offense. That is why we lost.

Stink also thinks the Eagles can not win a championship with Reid's current system. He was pretty candid.

Yes. It was a change of pace from hearing how awesome andy is from the mainstream sports media. Andy is a GOOD coach. He can develop QB's, usually gets a team prepared for gameday and rarely has a long losing streak. However, he never makes adjustments during the game. If adjustments do come, its to his old habits of throw throw throw. I mean if we can see that it only takes a few plays of the defense stopping the run to get him out of it, opposing coaches have to see this too and probably plan on it. He has very poor clock management skills (doesn't understand the hurry up, never knows when to call TO's, doesn't know how to use a challenge). In his GM area, he manages to find excellent depth level talent in the late rounds but misses a lot on high round talent. Sure he's hit with Desean and Maclin recently and McNabb and Sheldon in the past but overall his first round picks have been fairly suspect. Certain positions he refuses to address with a high pick (LB, C, G, RB) while others he drafts consistently bad in the high rounds (DE, DT, OT). He knows when to get rid of a guy but rarely makes the big splash for a key position in FA. Sigh, I'm just rambling here and repeating things we all know. Its just beyond frustrating that we can all see these things and yet he never does a self evaluation to review certain things.

 

[Amused to Death]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

Its maddeningly frustrating. Missinelli was talking to Mark Schlereth on the radio the other day and Schlereth was talking about how a little more running would help to improve the team overall. Missinelli exploded hysterically with the frustration we've all felt over the last 12 years. McCoy got 12 carries and 4 catches. 16 touches for probably the best weapon on the offense. That is why we lost.

Stink also thinks the Eagles can not win a championship with Reid's current system. He was pretty candid.

Yes. It was a change of pace from hearing how awesome andy is from the mainstream sports media. Andy is a GOOD coach. He can develop QB's, usually gets a team prepared for gameday and rarely has a long losing streak. However, he never makes adjustments during the game. If adjustments do come, its to his old habits of throw throw throw. I mean if we can see that it only takes a few plays of the defense stopping the run to get him out of it, opposing coaches have to see this too and probably plan on it. He has very poor clock management skills (doesn't understand the hurry up, never knows when to call TO's, doesn't know how to use a challenge). In his GM area, he manages to find excellent depth level talent in the late rounds but misses a lot on high round talent. Sure he's hit with Desean and Maclin recently and McNabb and Sheldon in the past but overall his first round picks have been fairly suspect. Certain positions he refuses to address with a high pick (LB, C, G, RB) while others he drafts consistently bad in the high rounds (DE, DT, OT). He knows when to get rid of a guy but rarely makes the big splash for a key position in FA.

Sigh, I'm just rambling here and repeating things we all know. Its just beyond frustrating that we can all see these things and yet he never does a self evaluation to review certain things.

Yeah definitely not the same "Eagles fans are lucky to have Reid" rhetoric. Here's someone who has won multiple championships and a professional analyst actually say the same thing some fans have been saying for years. That yelling we all heard back in April about how sorry Eagles fans would be not having Donovan died down mid-season and now we see some of Reid's national luster fade.What can Andy show us in the next season or two that we haven't seen over the last 12 years? We he finally develop a running game? Or fix the LBs? I actually heard someone joke that maybe he can bring Trotter back for another year.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Certain positions he refuses to address with a high pick (LB, C, G, RB) while others he drafts consistently bad in the high rounds (DE, DT, OT). He knows when to get rid of a guy but rarely makes the big splash for a key position in FA.

Usually a Reid defender but we let go of two DEs last year who became high quality players - Babin and Clemmons. We spent two picks on DEs when the talent we had there was actually pretty good. And we included a 4th in the Clemmons deal to get Tapp. And it wasn't like they were high priced like when Burgess left for Oakland, it was guys we just discarded. I wonder how much say Johnson had in personnel - very few good picks on defense since he passed.

 

[Insein]

Certain positions he refuses to address with a high pick (LB, C, G, RB) while others he drafts consistently bad in the high rounds (DE, DT, OT). He knows when to get rid of a guy but rarely makes the big splash for a key position in FA.

Usually a Reid defender but we let go of two DEs last year who became high quality players - Babin and Clemmons. We spent two picks on DEs when the talent we had there was actually pretty good. And we included a 4th in the Clemmons deal to get Tapp. And it wasn't like they were high priced like when Burgess left for Oakland, it was guys we just discarded. I wonder how much say Johnson had in personnel - very few good picks on defense since he passed.

Good observation. In the past he has been good with that. Maybe that ability is leaving him too. Dropping those 2 players and then the draft picks he made makes no sense. The draft this year though just baffles me now when I look at it now. At the time, I was complaining immensely about the positions we took but settled that Graham would turn out as a decent player. I'm worried we are seeing the beginings of another McDougle though. We invested more money in Graham than we would in Babin and Clemmons for an unproven talent. http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/asset...ecap_100424.pdf

Looking at this list is painful now.

Our top 2 guys gave contributions. Allen looks for real but injury is a big deal. Graham didn't show much before getting hurt.

Some guys gave minor contributions like Lindley, Chaney and Harbour. Lindley could be a good nickel. Harbour looks like he can be a solid backup. Coleman and Cheney were nice depth finds in the 7th. None of them will be stars.

Then we have the barely contributed like Cooper, Kafka and Clayton. Obviously Kafka is a 3rd stringer. May be a backup someday. but Cooper could and should have done more. Clayton was almost non existent.

Then theres Jorrick Calvin, a bonehead we got for Charles Scott, Dan Teo'N, a baffling pick of a DE we didn't need and Ricky Sapp. Where did these guys go? Calvin obviously dug his own grave but Teo was a no show this year? Was Sapp sent to the PS? I forget.

I think we got 1 starter of the whole group and I don't think Nate Allen is going to be a pro bowler. I guess we'll see but this draft seems like a waste for what we could have used.

 

[dhockster]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

Its maddeningly frustrating. Missinelli was talking to Mark Schlereth on the radio the other day and Schlereth was talking about how a little more running would help to improve the team overall. Missinelli exploded hysterically with the frustration we've all felt over the last 12 years. McCoy got 12 carries and 4 catches. 16 touches for probably the best weapon on the offense. That is why we lost.

Stink also thinks the Eagles can not win a championship with Reid's current system. He was pretty candid.

Yes. It was a change of pace from hearing how awesome andy is from the mainstream sports media. Andy is a GOOD coach. He can develop QB's, usually gets a team prepared for gameday and rarely has a long losing streak. However, he never makes adjustments during the game. If adjustments do come, its to his old habits of throw throw throw. I mean if we can see that it only takes a few plays of the defense stopping the run to get him out of it, opposing coaches have to see this too and probably plan on it. He has very poor clock management skills (doesn't understand the hurry up, never knows when to call TO's, doesn't know how to use a challenge). In his GM area, he manages to find excellent depth level talent in the late rounds but misses a lot on high round talent. Sure he's hit with Desean and Maclin recently and McNabb and Sheldon in the past but overall his first round picks have been fairly suspect. Certain positions he refuses to address with a high pick (LB, C, G, RB) while others he drafts consistently bad in the high rounds (DE, DT, OT). He knows when to get rid of a guy but rarely makes the big splash for a key position in FA.

Sigh, I'm just rambling here and repeating things we all know. Its just beyond frustrating that we can all see these things and yet he never does a self evaluation to review certain things.

I would just disagree with the bolded. Troy Vincent, John Runyon, Jevon Kearse, Asante Samuel are all big name free agents signed. In addition, the Eagles went after TO and Jason Peters via trade. That's 6 big names in 12 years, or 1 every 2 years. I think they do a good job of going and getting the guys they

want that they think will have the biggest impact. Since they missed out on Peppers last year, I would love if they got Asomugha this year.

 

[delusional]

For everything reid has done to make the team successful, he does just that to keep it from winning a super bowl.

Glad I am not the only one that thinks his system won win a super bowl

 

[Insein]

It drives me nuts too think how poorly that game was called but we'll still have people talking about how Andy Reid is an "elite", "top 5", etc coach. I'm not going to go as far to say that he's got to go but will he EVER learn?

Its maddeningly frustrating. Missinelli was talking to Mark Schlereth on the radio the other day and Schlereth was talking about how a little more running would help to improve the team overall. Missinelli exploded hysterically with the frustration we've all felt over the last 12 years. McCoy got 12 carries and 4 catches. 16 touches for probably the best weapon on the offense. That is why we lost.

Stink also thinks the Eagles can not win a championship with Reid's current system. He was pretty candid.

Yes. It was a change of pace from hearing how awesome andy is from the mainstream sports media. Andy is a GOOD coach. He can develop QB's, usually gets a team prepared for gameday and rarely has a long losing streak. However, he never makes adjustments during the game. If adjustments do come, its to his old habits of throw throw throw. I mean if we can see that it only takes a few plays of the defense stopping the run to get him out of it, opposing coaches have to see this too and probably plan on it. He has very poor clock management skills (doesn't understand the hurry up, never knows when to call TO's, doesn't know how to use a challenge). In his GM area, he manages to find excellent depth level talent in the late rounds but misses a lot on high round talent. Sure he's hit with Desean and Maclin recently and McNabb and Sheldon in the past but overall his first round picks have been fairly suspect. Certain positions he refuses to address with a high pick (LB, C, G, RB) while others he drafts consistently bad in the high rounds (DE, DT, OT). He knows when to get rid of a guy but rarely makes the big splash for a key position in FA.

Sigh, I'm just rambling here and repeating things we all know. Its just beyond frustrating that we can all see these things and yet he never does a self evaluation to review certain things.

I would just disagree with the bolded. Troy Vincent, John Runyon, Jevon Kearse, Asante Samuel are all big name free agents signed. In addition, the Eagles went after TO and Jason Peters via trade. That's 6 big names in 12 years, or 1 every 2 years. I think they do a good job of going and getting the guys they

want that they think will have the biggest impact. Since they missed out on Peppers last year, I would love if they got Asomugha this year.

Good points. I think we get frustrated when they don't get one every year but they are due for a big one. Which is why I'm hopeful for Aso and Mankins.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Was Sapp sent to the PS? I forget.

IR'ed after training camp.

 

[Amused to Death]

Could the 4th quarter defensive lapses cost McDermott his job? Keep in mind it hasn't just been in the Titans games. They rank 20th in the league in points allowed. Was Jauron brought on board to be an assistant/DB coach, or insurance for a young, untested McDermott?

ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, a former Eagles beat writer, recently told Mike Missanelli of 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia that McDermott could soon be done.

"There is no question about that," Paolantonio said, via Jordan Raanan of 97.5 The Fanatic. "It may be time for; I don't know how much input **** Jauron has in the defensive game plan, I'm sure he has quite a bit, but eventually they may have to make a switch there."

The defense fell apart in a 37-19 loss to the Titans, giving up 27 fourth-quarter points.

"It comes down to the defensive coordinator," Paolantonio said. "He has some kind of brainlock or whatever it is -- lack of judgment, inability to make adjustments on the fly. The head coach was covering for him this week [in a press conference], you heard that."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...-out-in-philly/

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Here's the 2011 thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...;#entry12816798