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***Official 2011 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Kinda wish we didnt get rid of Bunkley.

That being said, thought I read that Sapp was injured today too. Love to see what this team could do with some legit good LBs and conversion/injured/longshot type players

 
I think another weakness has just opened up but I still think this team is going to be very good. Hopefully Dixon's injury isn't too severe and as for Mike Patterson, thanks for all you've done but now you need to take care of yourself and your family.

 
Injuries happen guys, that's nothing new.

Abiamiri wasn't being counted on this year, he was very likely to get cut once we got down to the 53-man. But Patterson and Dixon were going to be our starters, so... :(

We have a ton of ends in camp (Parker, Jenkins, Babin, Cole, Tapp, Hunt, Te'o-Nesheim) but at tackle all we have right now are Laws and Thornton, right?
hah, completely forgot about Te'o. i wonder how he is doing in camp this year and if he will have any impact this year. i still remember the clips of him in college and looking forward to him getting on the field
 
Injuries happen guys, that's nothing new.

Abiamiri wasn't being counted on this year, he was very likely to get cut once we got down to the 53-man. But Patterson and Dixon were going to be our starters, so... :(

We have a ton of ends in camp (Parker, Jenkins, Babin, Cole, Tapp, Hunt, Te'o-Nesheim) but at tackle all we have right now are Laws and Thornton, right?
hah, completely forgot about Te'o. i wonder how he is doing in camp this year and if he will have any impact this year. i still remember the clips of him in college and looking forward to him getting on the field
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Higgins, Moss, Cooper, Vick, Avant, Babin, Chaney, Mathis, Watkins, DRC, Kelce, Ronnie Brown, and Jarrett all impressive at camp.

Dunlap, Young, Shipley, and Asante not so much.

Team looked really good. The D is stacked and the Oline looks like it's taking shape.

Maclin looked extremely skinny. I wish I knew more on him. Just didn't look right.

 
Higgins, Moss, Cooper, Vick, Avant, Babin, Chaney, Mathis, Watkins, DRC, Kelce, Ronnie Brown, and Jarrett all impressive at camp.Dunlap, Young, Shipley, and Asante not so much.Team looked really good. The D is stacked and the Oline looks like it's taking shape. Maclin looked extremely skinny. I wish I knew more on him. Just didn't look right.
Was it today that Asante has looked bad or is it a bad camp overall? I saw he got torched a few times today though...
 
I don't mean to come across as over confidant but I don't think we were far off the Pack. Maybe one ill-advised pass to end the game. Add in the Oline, DB's and Dline (one of the Pack's) improvements and I don't see a gap anymore. I respect the champs but would love a rematch.

 
I don't mean to come across as over confidant but I don't think we were far off the Pack. Maybe one ill-advised pass to end the game. Add in the Oline, DB's and Dline (one of the Pack's) improvements and I don't see a gap anymore. I respect the champs but would love a rematch.
Have to remember that even though they won the Super Bowl, a good portion of their starters were on IR. They get those players back this year. They could be even better. Going to be a fun year though.
 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
Good sanity check, Woodrow. I agree PHI can win 12-13 games, esp. with that schedule. The advantages there should be a bbye and also home game(s) in the playoffs.Not really worried about Henery after reading how he handled both long kicks and pressure in college. Good concern to have, but I'm fine with him.
 
I think it is a three horse race as well with NO, PHI, and GB. It is going to be a lot of fun to watch. Cullen Jenkins is a real difference maker when healthy. Are the Eagles running a 4-3 or 3-4 base package? Because he was hell on wheels as a DE in the 3-4 which is rare.

 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs

2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
Am I missing something on Atlanta? To me, Atlanta and GB are still the cream of the crop in the NFC and will be very difficult to beat on the road in the playoffs.
 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs

2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
Am I missing something on Atlanta? To me, Atlanta and GB are still the cream of the crop in the NFC and will be very difficult to beat on the road in the playoffs.
Yes. You are missing something. The fact that one of their losses came against Philly last year with Kolb at the helm. Carry on.
 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs

2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
Am I missing something on Atlanta? To me, Atlanta and GB are still the cream of the crop in the NFC and will be very difficult to beat on the road in the playoffs.
Yes. You are missing something. The fact that one of their losses came against Philly last year with Kolb at the helm. Carry on.
How is this relevant? Who cares if they played one bad quarter against the Eagles last year. Jason said he expected GB, Philly, or NO to get to the super bowl. I'm curious if he forgot about Atlanta or thinks that they'll regress this year. I imagine he just likes NO a little better. I see a team that got better on offense - added Julio Jones, brought back three starters on the OLine, and resigned Snelling. And while they probably overpaid, Edwards should be a big boost for a defense that is on the ascent. I'd say Atlanta, NO and GB are just as talented and deep as the Eagles are, and they have the advantage of some already established team chemistry.

The Eagles, meanwhile, have changed coaches, changed schemes, made major changes to both lines, and are trotting out brand new secondaries and backers. These are all big improvements but they certainly could take some time to materialize. That, in my opinion, will be the big story of this season.

 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs

2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
Am I missing something on Atlanta? To me, Atlanta and GB are still the cream of the crop in the NFC and will be very difficult to beat on the road in the playoffs.
Yes. You are missing something. The fact that one of their losses came against Philly last year with Kolb at the helm. Carry on.
Add in the fact that they got smoked in their home playoff game against GB and you can say that people aren't sold on ATL.
 
So do you Eagles fans feel you've closed the gap on Green Bay? I tend to think the Packers still haven't hit their stride.
I actually was on Twitter this week saying that I could see the Eagles winning 13 games and not making the NFC Championship game. I really think, in spite of our obvious improvements, Green Bay and New Orleans are STACKED too. I would be absolutely floored if the NFC representative in the Super Bowl isn't one of those three teams, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Eagles aren't the ones to get there.1) Vick remains a "show me" guy as far as I'm concerned when it comes to beating disciplined, elite defenses he'll face in the playoffs

2) We're going to war with a rookie place kicker...tell me the league's fans would LOVE to see us lose a shot at the Bowl on a missed pressure kick in a close game
Am I missing something on Atlanta? To me, Atlanta and GB are still the cream of the crop in the NFC and will be very difficult to beat on the road in the playoffs.
Yes. You are missing something. The fact that one of their losses came against Philly last year with Kolb at the helm. Carry on.
How is this relevant? Who cares if they played one bad quarter against the Eagles last year. Jason said he expected GB, Philly, or NO to get to the super bowl. I'm curious if he forgot about Atlanta or thinks that they'll regress this year. I imagine he just likes NO a little better. I see a team that got better on offense - added Julio Jones, brought back three starters on the OLine, and resigned Snelling. And while they probably overpaid, Edwards should be a big boost for a defense that is on the ascent. I'd say Atlanta, NO and GB are just as talented and deep as the Eagles are, and they have the advantage of some already established team chemistry.

The Eagles, meanwhile, have changed coaches, changed schemes, made major changes to both lines, and are trotting out brand new secondaries and backers. These are all big improvements but they certainly could take some time to materialize. That, in my opinion, will be the big story of this season.
IMO, chemistry is more important for offenses. Defenses are more read and react. I'm not worried about the Eagles chemistry.
 
The situation with Maclin is really beginning to concern me. I had mono before, being out of commission for 5+ months seems a little excessive. I understand that he's an elite athlete and I'm a regular joe so it would take longer for him to return to peak condition. But the silence about him is very bothersome, is something else going on? DH, anyone have some insight here?

 
The situation with Maclin is really beginning to concern me. I had mono before, being out of commission for 5+ months seems a little excessive. I understand that he's an elite athlete and I'm a regular joe so it would take longer for him to return to peak condition. But the silence about him is very bothersome, is something else going on? DH, anyone have some insight here?
I'm also concerned. There seems to be something going on behind the scenes. Maclin is a pretty big part of the offense; 70 receptions, just under 1000 yds and a 10 td total all in his second year he's becoming a very nice talent to have.
 
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The situation with Maclin is really beginning to concern me. I had mono before, being out of commission for 5+ months seems a little excessive. I understand that he's an elite athlete and I'm a regular joe so it would take longer for him to return to peak condition. But the silence about him is very bothersome, is something else going on? DH, anyone have some insight here?
Ultimately it's his call to make. The Eagles have absolutely no right to disclose any health related information about him unless he gives them explicit permission. I agree that it's unlikely this is completely related to the mono, but I think it's very dangerous to speculate beyond that as some in Philly have started doing.
 
The situation with Maclin is really beginning to concern me. I had mono before, being out of commission for 5+ months seems a little excessive. I understand that he's an elite athlete and I'm a regular joe so it would take longer for him to return to peak condition. But the silence about him is very bothersome, is something else going on? DH, anyone have some insight here?
I'm also concerned. There seems to be something going on behind the scenes. Maclin is a pretty big part of the offense; 70 receptions, just under 1000 yds and a 10 td total all in his second year he's becoming a very nice talent to have.
I would also bet that the Eagles coaches are more interested in having Maclin long term than DJax.
 
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The situation with Maclin is really beginning to concern me. I had mono before, being out of commission for 5+ months seems a little excessive. I understand that he's an elite athlete and I'm a regular joe so it would take longer for him to return to peak condition. But the silence about him is very bothersome, is something else going on? DH, anyone have some insight here?
Ultimately it's his call to make. The Eagles have absolutely no right to disclose any health related information about him unless he gives them explicit permission. I agree that it's unlikely this is completely related to the mono, but I think it's very dangerous to speculate beyond that as some in Philly have started doing.
What Jason said. HIPPA laws being what they are, the Eagles can get in A LOT of trouble if Maclin's health issues get 'leaked'.
 
I sure hope whatever the problem is it is resolved soon. I have a lot riding on Maclin in fantasy and for the Eagles in general.

 
In other news:

BETHLEHEM -- Presumably, DeSean Jackson is at Lehigh, since TV cameras recorded him traipsing through Philadelphia International Airport last night, agent Drew Rosenhaus in tow. But Jackson is nowhere around the Lehigh practice fields, as the team convenes this morning. A team spokesman said he had not seen Jackson, or Rosenhaus, for that matter. The spokesman said Jackson will have to get a physical. Stay tuned.

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Stay tuned indeed.... :unsure:
 
In other news:

BETHLEHEM -- Presumably, DeSean Jackson is at Lehigh, since TV cameras recorded him traipsing through Philadelphia International Airport last night, agent Drew Rosenhaus in tow. But Jackson is nowhere around the Lehigh practice fields, as the team convenes this morning. A team spokesman said he had not seen Jackson, or Rosenhaus, for that matter. The spokesman said Jackson will have to get a physical. Stay tuned.

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Stay tuned indeed.... :unsure:
If DJax shows up and does his work, he'll be taken care of.If he tries to pull a stunt where he's "injured" and dogs it in camp, the not only are we -- as fans -- going to be disappointed and upset, but I think the Eagles will dig in and play hardball.

 
In other news:

BETHLEHEM -- Presumably, DeSean Jackson is at Lehigh, since TV cameras recorded him traipsing through Philadelphia International Airport last night, agent Drew Rosenhaus in tow. But Jackson is nowhere around the Lehigh practice fields, as the team convenes this morning. A team spokesman said he had not seen Jackson, or Rosenhaus, for that matter. The spokesman said Jackson will have to get a physical. Stay tuned.

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Stay tuned indeed.... :unsure:
If DJax shows up and does his work, he'll be taken care of.If he tries to pull a stunt where he's "injured" and dogs it in camp, the not only are we -- as fans -- going to be disappointed and upset, but I think the Eagles will dig in and play hardball.
I hope he doesn't show up until Wednesday.
 
In other news:

BETHLEHEM -- Presumably, DeSean Jackson is at Lehigh, since TV cameras recorded him traipsing through Philadelphia International Airport last night, agent Drew Rosenhaus in tow. But Jackson is nowhere around the Lehigh practice fields, as the team convenes this morning. A team spokesman said he had not seen Jackson, or Rosenhaus, for that matter. The spokesman said Jackson will have to get a physical. Stay tuned.

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Stay tuned indeed.... :unsure:
If DJax shows up and does his work, he'll be taken care of.If he tries to pull a stunt where he's "injured" and dogs it in camp, the not only are we -- as fans -- going to be disappointed and upset, but I think the Eagles will dig in and play hardball.
I really hope that doesn't happen, otherwise he'll be in a Cowboys jersey next seasion. We've seen this movie before, it didn't end well.
 
The situation with Maclin is really beginning to concern me. I had mono before, being out of commission for 5+ months seems a little excessive. I understand that he's an elite athlete and I'm a regular joe so it would take longer for him to return to peak condition. But the silence about him is very bothersome, is something else going on? DH, anyone have some insight here?
Ultimately it's his call to make. The Eagles have absolutely no right to disclose any health related information about him unless he gives them explicit permission. I agree that it's unlikely this is completely related to the mono, but I think it's very dangerous to speculate beyond that as some in Philly have started doing.
What Jason said. HIPPA laws being what they are, the Eagles can get in A LOT of trouble if Maclin's health issues get 'leaked'.
I'm very aware of the impact of HIPPA laws, in my line of work it is a constant issue. I'm also aware that pro football organizations are complex entities and information is leaked all the time, often with the source of the leak never being discovered. The fact that this particular issue has been so thoroughly bottled up underscores my increasing level of concern about its severity. I hope that all is well.
 
I guess the question has to be asked... can you fix a team through free agency? The Redskins have tried time and again and they firmly reside in the cellar.

 
I guess the question has to be asked... can you fix a team through free agency? The Redskins have tried time and again and they firmly reside in the cellar.
1) This team didn't need fixing, it was already a playoff contender and was the 3rd youngest in the NFL2) This was an unusual year b/c the FA talent pool was several orders of magnitude larger than normal3) As Peter King's article eloquently describes, the Eagles have taken no commitments beyond 2012 (outside of Nnamdi) so they're in great cap shape and can cut ties with anyone that doesn't work out
 
I guess the question has to be asked... can you fix a team through free agency? The Redskins have tried time and again and they firmly reside in the cellar.
Yet the Eagles went to the Superbowl the year they were most aggressive in FA. If you look, the Eagles aren't trying to fix their team through FA. They bascially signed all of the FA players (apart from Asomugha) to one year deals with no cap ramifications after this season and have amassed extra picks for next years draft. They are taking a one year shot and will fill more holes next year. It's actually ingenious since trying to build through the draft this year would be folly since you didn't have offseason workouts to give the rookies a base. At least with veterans you kinda know what you got.
 
I guess the question has to be asked... can you fix a team through free agency? The Redskins have tried time and again and they firmly reside in the cellar.
Question is can it make a good team great, not make a bad team good. Eagles will be a good team even if all these guys bust. They were a good team even though they gave Kearse a lot of money and he never got double digit sacks for them. Even though TO sat out year 2. One of the great things is that, except for Nnamdi, they owe these guys nothing after this year. Of course that could also bite them if these guys have All Pro years since they're too old to wait for the next pay day.
 
It's actually ingenious since trying to build through the draft this year would be folly since you didn't have offseason workouts to give the rookies a base. At least with veterans you kinda know what you got.
:goodposting:Great strategy by the Eagles to take advantage of an odd situation this year. This was the main reason I was worried that they didn't make any moves right away. I was worried they weren't going to take advantage of the talent pool, cap space, and potential gap in performance between veteran free agents and rookies that haven't had time to get ready.
 
It's actually ingenious since trying to build through the draft this year would be folly since you didn't have offseason workouts to give the rookies a base. At least with veterans you kinda know what you got.
:goodposting:Great strategy by the Eagles to take advantage of an odd situation this year. This was the main reason I was worried that they didn't make any moves right away. I was worried they weren't going to take advantage of the talent pool, cap space, and potential gap in performance between veteran free agents and rookies that haven't had time to get ready.
Let's not think that this strategy just went into play this off-season. AR noted that they had been watching Nnamdi play for years. They were waiting on him to become an UFA. I am quite certain they were aware of how weird the NFL could be this year, just not exactly sure. One thing I do know, and this was addressed earlier - that they knew rookies this year, for the most part, probably won't contribute greatly this year. If you look further back, the Eagles were one of the top teams, regarding number of draft picks, going into LAST YEAR'S draft - which was considered one of the deepest. While other teams were trying to execute a "No Salary Cap" run at the SB(where the talent was short, since everyone had to be in for 6+ years) and then end up in cap hell this year. I personally think the last two year's really show how well the Eagles F.O. is. At least as far as strategy. It's no surprise they were prepared more when the talent was its deepest(some might argue, both the '09 draft and '10 FA will never be as deep as they were that year again) in each class. I think this makes it even more impressive since it seems they "knew" some teams would focus on FA last year and not the draft, and in essence would allow them to be as aggressive as you ever could be in free agency. Best front office in the NFC, and I don't think its very close.
 
For 2 million they take him from the Giants and he helps the passing game down the stretch. He's still a little banged up, so I think if they were concerned about Maclin they would look for immediate help.

 
I'd like to think this was another sign that they are "all in" this year. An injury to DeSean/Maclin this season hampers the passing offense a great deal - huge dropoff to Cooper IMO. Philly can't afford to be undermanned in the playoffs. Smith should be ready by the second half of the season - give him 5-6 games to knock the rust off and he can be a very nice WR3 for this offense in the post-season. I'm a fan of Avant and Cooper, but Smith is a major upgrade and, 1-5, this is the deepest WR corps I have ever seen in Philadelphia.

I'd like to think that, but really I worry this means Maclin's illness could be serious.

 
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For 2 million they take him from the Giants and he helps the passing game down the stretch. He's still a little banged up, so I think if they were concerned about Maclin they would look for immediate help.
I think the Eagles think they can make it to the playoffs with DJax, Celek, McCoy, and Avant. They'll trot Chad Hall out there if they have to. This may be a "January" move and still show that Maclin may not be there.ETA: Just like the Phils were content playing Dom Brown and Wilson Valdez in June.
 
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FWIW, I always loved Steve Smith back to USC. If he can be anything near 100% for the stretch run, this season will be one to remember...

 
I guess the question has to be asked... can you fix a team through free agency? The Redskins have tried time and again and they firmly reside in the cellar.
1) This team didn't need fixing, it was already a playoff contender and was the 3rd youngest in the NFL2) This was an unusual year b/c the FA talent pool was several orders of magnitude larger than normal

3) As Peter King's article eloquently describes, the Eagles have taken no commitments beyond 2012 (outside of Nnamdi) so they're in great cap shape and can cut ties with anyone that doesn't work out
Say whatttttttttt? This team needed alot of fixing....which they did alot of with FA.

Starting CB: Aso

Nickle: DRC

RG: Watkins

RT: Harris?

OL Depth: Harris, Evans Vandervelde

Still not sold on safties..as in Coleman starting, relying on Allen coming off a leg injury & the current LB crew..

 
The FF side of me was looking at Vick and thinking not a lot of upside there, but my gosh... all those weapons makes him very tempting to take in the late 1st/early 2nd at 6 pts per TDs. If the Eagles use their passing history (~63% of plays) to create leads and force the opposing teams to throw against them, this could be one of the highest scoring offenses ever with as often as the D could be on the field.

 

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