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***Official 2013/2014 NHL Regular Season Thread*** (1 Viewer)

As much as I don't like Stephen Weiss so far, is as much as I like Daniel Alfredsson. I knew he was a good two-way player, but he is really tenacious in the defensive end.

Datysuk back tonight but obviously not in game shape. He was flat-footed on the Panthers 2nd goal, never saw him do that before.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
As much as I don't like Stephen Weiss so far, is as much as I like Daniel Alfredsson. I knew he was a good two-way player, but he is really tenacious in the defensive end.

Datysuk back tonight but obviously not in game shape. He was flat-footed on the Panthers 2nd goal, never saw him do that before.
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Beauty goal by Bjugstad
 
Girgensons going to be very popular in Buffalo. Hope Grigorenko dominates the WJCs.

Callahan injured for a month+. Big loss for the Rangers. Hope he's ready for Sochi.

 
Bill Brasky said:
Anyone watching Ovie's climb on my back performance tonight? Is it as good as the box score looks?
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I was sick and went to bed early. :kicksrock:

I waited longer than most people, but even I declared this guy toast about a year ago. It's nice to see his strong finish last year wasn't just a fluke and that he really is back.

 
For all of Ovechkin's flaws he is without a doubt one of the best pure goal scorers to play in this generation if not the best.That 4th goal with under a minute to go and down by 1 would have been done by very few guys in this league but when you have that magic touch it seems to hit the back of the net.Backstrom had a tremendous game as well with 5 points and dominated the faceoff dot much of the night.

Mike Green on the other hand might as well have driven his Vespa on the ice for the 1st period and tried to play because he couldn't have been any worse.18 PIM's,a terrible attempt at defending a 2 on 1 and turnover after turnover in only 5 or 6 shifts.

After 2 very good wins over the weekend with solid play they start the game out 3-0 down and you start to think here we go again with the inconsistent play from game to game.Ovechkin and Backstrom carried them out of this one but the real problems still exist for them.They need another top 4 D man in the worst way,the puck possession is normally really bad and 5 on 5(while starting to improve)still has a ways top go.

Thankfully(seems like I say this year after year now)the division is brutal and they will be in the hunt.

 
streets said:
If he can stay healthy all year, the Great 8 will win the MVP award again.
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All the goals are great, but he is still a pretty significant minus and almost half his goals are on the PP. Certainly not comparing him to Alex Steen, but their numbers aren't that different at the moment.

 
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Cool in the pocket said:
streets said:
If he can stay healthy all year, the Great 8 will win the MVP award again.
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All the goals are great, but he is still a pretty significant minus and almost half his goals are on the PP. Certainly not comparing him to Alex Steen, but their numbers aren't that different at the moment.
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I would rate them Crosby,Kane and then Ovechkin at this point as the early favorites.

 
dgreen said:
Bill Brasky said:
Anyone watching Ovie's climb on my back performance tonight? Is it as good as the box score looks?
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I was sick and went to bed early. :kicksrock:

I waited longer than most people, but even I declared this guy toast about a year ago. It's nice to see his strong finish last year wasn't just a fluke and that he really is back.
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You definitely weren't the only one. Pretty sure Sheriff, Cool In The Pocket, and others were saying the Capitals should amnesty Ovechkin just last year...

 
wilked said:
Anyone read Bourne's article yesterday? Well-written, good summary of what happened in Boston re: Thornton, Neal, Orpik, etc

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/12/10/the-penguins-bruins-and-minimizing-reckless-plays-in-hockey/
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Agreed, he comes at it from a number of angles and covers it all pretty well. This passage particularly rings true for me:

The most comical part of the aftermath is the hunt for the good and bad guys, like there are black and white hats we have to get handed out, like one team is morally superior to another. Beat it with that concept. All there is to hand out is judgement; hockey doesn’t have white hats. I was never on a team that didn’t try to exact some sort of revenge when a player on our team got cheaped out, and I’ve never been on a team that was always told to turn the other cheek in the face of wrongdoing. “Two wrongs don’t make a right” is cute, but the team that gets rolled over physically gets rolled over on the scoreboard the majority of the time, so it’s easy to see why nobody wants to play the punk. The game really does require a measure of toughness to thrive, a fact that won’t be denied by anyone from within the game today, yesterday, and tomorrow.

Very few teams are going to "walk away" from backing a team mate (maybe Detroit?) and sometimes it crosses the line or goes bad, but it isn't going to stop.

 
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Link

As the NHL Board of Governors meetings wrap Tuesday in Pebble Beach, California, the league's owners, general managers and other brass have plenty to discuss.

They've got plenty to celebrate, too, as the long awaited Canadian broadcast deal (valued at over $5 billion) has led to revenue increases that could bring the salary cap right back to all-time high levels.

If the former is good for the NHL, the latter is good for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Following Monday's BoG meetings, a figure of $71.1 million emerged as a likely number for the 2014-15 salary cap. The NHL saw it's spending limit fall to $64.3 million per team this season, a condition of ending the 2012 lockout. The shortened 2013 season had a cap of $70.2 million, the highest in the cap era.

Under the terms of the current CBA and consistent with the last one, the salary cap is determined as a percentage of hockey-related revenues (HRR) from the season prior.

A few weeks ago, Forbes released numbers claiming NHL teams have never been so healthy financially. If their numbers are accurate, every one of the 30 NHL member clubs appreciated in value following the lockout -- welcome news for a league which seems to run in a perpetual circle of relocation rumors, mainstream obscurity and owner lockouts.

The Penguins, like the NHL, are as financially stable as they've ever been.

Pittsburgh has seen its value increase by almost $400 million since the 2005 season, outrunning a second team bankruptcy to become one of the most important and healthy franchises in hockey.

Before the salary cap came into play in 2005, the Penguins routinely played the low-rent loser, shedding talent after talent to get nothing in return.

Following years of sustained success that include a 300-plus game home sellout streak and the best TV ratings in the league, they're now beneficiaries of a salary ceiling that climbs ever higher, having spent to the cap ceiling in every year since 2008.

What would a cap ceiling of $71.1 million do for the top-heavy Penguins payroll?

-Buffer oncoming raises. Contract extensions signed by Kris Letang and Evgeni Malkin last summer will go into effect next season. Malkin is getting a bump of $800,000 per year, from $8.7 million to $9.5 million in annual average value (AAV). Letang's deal will take his AAV from $3.5 million to $7.25 million, more than doubling his last deal and putting him among the highest paid defenders in hockey. Their combined raise of $4.55 million per season would take up two-thirds of a possible $6.8 million surge in the cap ceiling.

-Provide room to breathe. The Penguins' depth going into this season was limited by their top-heavy roster. It took AHL demotions and LTIR relief to even become compliant before the season. With the rash of injuries Pittsburgh is experiencing (7 players currently on injured reserve, including three of the team's top-four defensemen), a little room to breathe would allow them to make moves other than AHL call-ups. The Pens are currently carrying 8 AHL regulars. (One of them, Andrew Ebbett, has really taken to the Penguins' way. He's on injured reserve.) -Keep the core together. The Penguins have a core of players around which they like to build their roster. Most of those players were drafted in the lean years of the early 2000s, and they're all rather expensive to keep around. Malkin and Sidney Crosby count more than $8 million against the cap. Letang will be over $7 million next season. James Neal, Paul Martin and Marc-Andre Fleury have hits of $5 million. Four other players carry cap hits of $3.5 million or more. A growing cap will allow the Penguins to keep the core together while still having the space to build around them.

The Penguins certainly seemed to anticipate a rising salary cap when they offered extensions or new contracts topping $176 million to Malkin, Letang, Chris Kunitz, Pascal Dupuis and Rob Scuderi this offseason.

Monday's news confirms that the Penguins gambled well last offseason.

Their continued success in Pittsburgh is one example of a traditional franchise having been rejuvenated by the salary cap. In turn, their gain is the NHL's gain, as a healthier league with popular teams will be able to, among other things, continually increase players salaries via the salary cap.

Smart spending will always win out, in any league. An increasing cap will give the Penguins room to breathe, as well as the space to continue building around their core players.

 
Copeman said:
What's taking so long for word on the Thornton ruling?
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In person meeting is scheduled for Friday afternoon.

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The NHL announced Tuesday the Boston Bruins forward will learn his fate on Friday, when he has an in-person hearing with the NHL Department of Player Safety for his actions on Saturday night against the Pittsburgh Penguins.

He had been suspended indefinitely pending the hearing and will have missed three games by the time he has the meeting. The league offers in-person meetings for any suspension that has the potential to exceed five games, but it could also be less.

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Hawks PK is just putrid right now :X not sure why they have gone to such a passive box. Last year they regularly were challenging the puck, now they sit back in the box.

 
Hawks64 said:
Hawks PK is just putrid right now :X not sure why they have gone to such a passive box. Last year they regularly were challenging the puck, now they sit back in the box.
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Hawks absolutely suck on the PK. Given up 2 goals on 3 PKs tonight.

 
Billy Bats said:
Hawks64 said:
Hawks64 said:
Hawks PK is just putrid right now :X not sure why they have gone to such a passive box. Last year they regularly were challenging the puck, now they sit back in the box.
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Hawks absolutely suck on the PK. Given up 2 goals on 3 PKs tonight.
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Yeah, you have problems. :rolleyes:
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I don't have any problems. The Hawks PK is a problem, especially facing Western teams that are actually good. StL gets 2 PP goals against the Hawks and it's game over. BTW Hartnell is POS.

 
Hawks64 said:
Hawks PK is just putrid right now :X not sure why they have gone to such a passive box. Last year they regularly were challenging the puck, now they sit back in the box.
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Complaining about the Hawks penalty killing is like complaining about a super model who can't cook.

 
brianj74 said:
Hawks64 said:
Hawks PK is just putrid right now :X not sure why they have gone to such a passive box. Last year they regularly were challenging the puck, now they sit back in the box.
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Complaining about the Hawks penalty killing is like complaining about a super model who can't cook.
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a team wins their last 3 games by a combined score of 29-6, yet Hawks64 wants to throw up because the PK wasn't that great. never seen anything like it.

that same awful PK unit did manage a shorthanded goal last night and the PP was dominant. if all anyone did was read his posts in here about the Hawks, you would think they were the worst team in the league.

 
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
brianj74 said:
Hawks64 said:
Hawks PK is just putrid right now :X not sure why they have gone to such a passive box. Last year they regularly were challenging the puck, now they sit back in the box.
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Complaining about the Hawks penalty killing is like complaining about a super model who can't cook.
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a team wins their last 3 games by a combined score of 29-6, yet Hawks64 wants to throw up because the PK wasn't that great. never seen anything like it.

that same awful PK unit did manage a shorthanded goal last night and the PP was dominant. if all anyone did was read his posts in here about the Hawks, you would think they were the worst team in the league.
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So I can't complain about one of the leagues worst PK units? Just because they are a great team doesn't mean they don't have areas to improve in. The 29th ranked PK is certainly problematic, and is a valid complaint. Sorry you don't agree.

And prior to this 3 game win streak they lost 3 in a row. Out scored 11-8; 4 of those being PPG against.

 
they are the best team in the league. maybe show some enjoyment once in awhile? I know it must be really hard being a fan of the best team in hockey when they don't play a perfect game every night.

 
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tom22406 said:
For all of Ovechkin's flaws he is without a doubt one of the best pure goal scorers to play in this generation if not the best.That 4th goal with under a minute to go and down by 1 would have been done by very few guys in this league but when you have that magic touch it seems to hit the back of the net.Backstrom had a tremendous game as well with 5 points and dominated the faceoff dot much of the night.

Mike Green on the other hand might as well have driven his Vespa on the ice for the 1st period and tried to play because he couldn't have been any worse.18 PIM's,a terrible attempt at defending a 2 on 1 and turnover after turnover in only 5 or 6 shifts.

After 2 very good wins over the weekend with solid play they start the game out 3-0 down and you start to think here we go again with the inconsistent play from game to game.Ovechkin and Backstrom carried them out of this one but the real problems still exist for them.They need another top 4 D man in the worst way,the puck possession is normally really bad and 5 on 5(while starting to improve)still has a ways top go.

Thankfully(seems like I say this year after year now)the division is brutal and they will be in the hunt.
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do you know why i am typing all in lower case? because all caps suck.

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
they are the best team in the league. maybe show some enjoyment once in awhile? I know it must be really hard being a fan of the best team in hockey when they don't play a perfect game every night.
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I enjoy the hell out this team. I just think it's funny how you bust my balls when I complain about one of the leagues worst PK units, and wonder what hell happened from last year to this year. Last year they were very good, aggressive on the puck, challenging every shot. This year they are quite often collapsing into a very passive box. It's a legit concern. I am not all woe is me the Hawks suck. Their PK sucks bad and it's a huge fall off from last year.

 
Hawks64 said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
they are the best team in the league. maybe show some enjoyment once in awhile? I know it must be really hard being a fan of the best team in hockey when they don't play a perfect game every night.
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I enjoy the hell out this team. I just think it's funny how you bust my balls when I complain about one of the leagues worst PK units, and wonder what hell happened from last year to this year. Last year they were very good, aggressive on the puck, challenging every shot. This year they are quite often collapsing into a very passive box. It's a legit concern. I am not all woe is me the Hawks suck. Their PK sucks bad and it's a huge fall off from last year.
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they were in the midst of a 7-2 rout last night and your only posts in here were complaints. it's just so strange to me.

I read your posts and think the Hawks must be getting embarassed on the ice. then I check the score or watch the game and they are usually toying with the other team.

your ratio of positive posts to negative posts regarding the Hawks are like 1 out of 10. that's what it seems like anyway.

 
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
Hawks64 said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
they are the best team in the league. maybe show some enjoyment once in awhile? I know it must be really hard being a fan of the best team in hockey when they don't play a perfect game every night.
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I enjoy the hell out this team. I just think it's funny how you bust my balls when I complain about one of the leagues worst PK units, and wonder what hell happened from last year to this year. Last year they were very good, aggressive on the puck, challenging every shot. This year they are quite often collapsing into a very passive box. It's a legit concern. I am not all woe is me the Hawks suck. Their PK sucks bad and it's a huge fall off from last year.
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they were in the midst of a 7-2 rout last night and your only posts in here were complaints. it's just so strange to me.

I read your posts and think the Hawks must be getting embarassed on the ice. then I check the score or watch the game and they are usually toying with the other team.

your ratio of positive posts to negative posts regarding the Hawks are like 1 out of 10. that's what it seems like anyway.
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:shrug: Guess I don't like to post crap like the Pens fan when they are dominating, not a fan of gloating. And when I actually posted that it was tied 2-2 and the Hawks just allowed 2 PPGs.

 
Hawks64 said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Hawks64 said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
they are the best team in the league. maybe show some enjoyment once in awhile? I know it must be really hard being a fan of the best team in hockey when they don't play a perfect game every night.
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I enjoy the hell out this team. I just think it's funny how you bust my balls when I complain about one of the leagues worst PK units, and wonder what hell happened from last year to this year. Last year they were very good, aggressive on the puck, challenging every shot. This year they are quite often collapsing into a very passive box. It's a legit concern. I am not all woe is me the Hawks suck. Their PK sucks bad and it's a huge fall off from last year.
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they were in the midst of a 7-2 rout last night and your only posts in here were complaints. it's just so strange to me.

I read your posts and think the Hawks must be getting embarassed on the ice. then I check the score or watch the game and they are usually toying with the other team.

your ratio of positive posts to negative posts regarding the Hawks are like 1 out of 10. that's what it seems like anyway.
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:shrug: Guess I don't like to post crap like the Pens fan when they are dominating, not a fan of gloating. And when I actually posted that it was tied 2-2 and the Hawks just allowed 2 PPGs.
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that game was never tied after the Hawks took the lead

 
Bill Brasky said:
Hawks64 said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Hawks64 said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
they are the best team in the league. maybe show some enjoyment once in awhile? I know it must be really hard being a fan of the best team in hockey when they don't play a perfect game every night.
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I enjoy the hell out this team. I just think it's funny how you bust my balls when I complain about one of the leagues worst PK units, and wonder what hell happened from last year to this year. Last year they were very good, aggressive on the puck, challenging every shot. This year they are quite often collapsing into a very passive box. It's a legit concern. I am not all woe is me the Hawks suck. Their PK sucks bad and it's a huge fall off from last year.
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they were in the midst of a 7-2 rout last night and your only posts in here were complaints. it's just so strange to me.

I read your posts and think the Hawks must be getting embarassed on the ice. then I check the score or watch the game and they are usually toying with the other team.

your ratio of positive posts to negative posts regarding the Hawks are like 1 out of 10. that's what it seems like anyway.
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:shrug: Guess I don't like to post crap like the Pens fan when they are dominating, not a fan of gloating. And when I actually posted that it was tied 2-2 and the Hawks just allowed 2 PPGs.
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that game was never tied after the Hawks took the lead
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You are correct, my mistake. It was 3-2.

 
Whitetail Hunter said:
tom22406 said:
For all of Ovechkin's flaws he is without a doubt one of the best pure goal scorers to play in this generation if not the best.That 4th goal with under a minute to go and down by 1 would have been done by very few guys in this league but when you have that magic touch it seems to hit the back of the net.Backstrom had a tremendous game as well with 5 points and dominated the faceoff dot much of the night.

Mike Green on the other hand might as well have driven his Vespa on the ice for the 1st period and tried to play because he couldn't have been any worse.18 PIM's,a terrible attempt at defending a 2 on 1 and turnover after turnover in only 5 or 6 shifts.

After 2 very good wins over the weekend with solid play they start the game out 3-0 down and you start to think here we go again with the inconsistent play from game to game.Ovechkin and Backstrom carried them out of this one but the real problems still exist for them.They need another top 4 D man in the worst way,the puck possession is normally really bad and 5 on 5(while starting to improve)still has a ways top go.

Thankfully(seems like I say this year after year now)the division is brutal and they will be in the hunt.
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do you know why i am typing all in lower case? because all caps suck.
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Tee Hee that was funny.

 
Premier said:
Doctor Detroit said:
#### the shootout, what a stupid ####### concept. :hot:
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Bertuzzi just basically rolled the puck down the ice and then flicked it to the right? Was he on the take or something? That was hysterical.
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Not sure, can't remember the last time they even scored a SO goal. If Howard was in there they would have just called it after the first Red Wings shot.

 
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