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****Official 2014 Chicago Bears Thread **** (1 Viewer)

According to the Chicago Bears twitter account:

Bears have agreed to terms with tight end Dante Rosario on 1-year contract.

 
Now signed a 1 year deal with Hayden, sure it was cheap, but I almost would have stuck with Frey, he didn't look great, but he was thrown in to start for the first time, and I thought was around the ball a lot, and made a bunch of saving tackles. Would have liked to give him a full shot to get better.

but I guess Hayden is also a second CB if we can't get anyone better to play. that would be frightening....

 
signing Hayden to a 1 year deal in February doesn't mean anything, it just means we have at worst a 4th cb on our roster. It's good news, not bad

 
I really don't know much about the upcoming draft class as in previous years. I watched very little college football this year.

 
Less than a week away from free agency. The last two years have been pretty crazy, not sure if this year will be quite as exciting, but hoping for some good things.

Personally I'm leaning towards spending our "big" day 1 money on a safety, and look at SS TJ Ward. He'd instantly take the spot Major Wright is leaving open, and even if we don't replace Conte, which I don't think we will yet, at least the position group would be upgraded. If we go for Byrd, while he'd take Conte's spot and be a huge upgrade, I think the price will be higher than Ward, and we'd still have to find someone to start at SS.

After that sign some blue collar workhorse DL guys hopefully starting with Wooten, and maybe Ratlif or Melton, whoever we can get cheaper, but not guys like Bennett that I think there will be a price run on. Guys like we used to have with Brown and Idonije. They weren't the high priced, but had relentless motors and played strong. Maybe we can get a pass rush specialist vet guy who can't get the big contract he wants a little later on in FA. If they can pull someone higher end at DE, hey all the better, but I think start at safety first, and with all the holes we have, I can't imagine how we could sign more then one "name" player.

Hopefully we can also bring back Tillman and have the corner spot locked up for another year or two until he retires.

Also another one year deal with DJ Williams.

That would be my ideal FA, but really, brining any talent into this D will make me happy.

I think our FA is really going to dictate our pick at 14, we should have our pick of the best or second best DE, DT, S, and CB all sitting there, and we have to get a day 1 starter. Personally I just always have a little more faith on seeing DL's ready to take a starting spot opening day than I do a DB.

 
I'd like to see 1 of these 4 guys added on day 1 of FA; Michael Bennett, Michael Johnson, TJ Ward or Jarius Byrd.

 
to release? he was a free agent...

this decision had to have been harder than the urlacher decision, but it shows how all the cap room has to go to improving the defense.

 
So are we thinking Ratliff back means Melton is definitely gone? Which I'm fine with as long as that money is spent on a DE. Especially with the very good DTs that should be available in the 1st round.

 
RBM said:
BringItOn said:
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/441415686061977600

THIS JUST IN: Bears to release PR/KR Devin Hester. Hester is tied for NFL record with 19 return TD. (via @NFLNetwork)
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Wow. I mean I get it, he doesn't really contribute anymore. I'll never forget some of his great moments, especially the Super Bowl.
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I'm right there with you, I really wish he could have got one of those other two chances for a TD this year to just completely break the returns record with the bears. I think one was called back with holding, and on the other he couldn't get in because some idiot was celebrating the TD instead of blocking someone.

I don't really have many memories of the 80's bears teams because I was pretty young then, so yeah, that Super Bowl opening TD was one of my most memorable football moments.

 
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I'll be honest, I think Hester would be too expensive to keep, so I'm ok with not re-signing him. They need to hit the D hard in FA and the draft and they'll need money to do it.

I'll miss him though.

 
The Tick said:
RBM said:
BringItOn said:
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/441415686061977600

THIS JUST IN: Bears to release PR/KR Devin Hester. Hester is tied for NFL record with 19 return TD. (via @NFLNetwork)
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Wow. I mean I get it, he doesn't really contribute anymore. I'll never forget some of his great moments, especially the Super Bowl.
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I'm right there with you, I really wish he could have got one of those other two chances for a TD this year to just completely break the returns record with the bears. I think one was called back with holding, and on the other he couldn't get in because some idiot was celebrating the TD instead of blocking someone.I don't really have many memories of the 80's bears teams because I was pretty young then, so yeah, that Super Bowl opening TD was one of my most memorable football moments.
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I want to say that doofus Conte was the holding penalty on the record breaker. I do remember it not being near the run and totally unnecessary.Eta: My bad...it was the other doofus Steltz.

 
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Mistake not keeping Hester. The new regime doesn't seem to understand the importance of leadership. It showed last year on D. They seem set on getting all of the old players out at once. If Peppers is released and Tillman isn't re-signed, it will be even worse. You need veteran leaders.

We're bound to take another step back on ST. Hester isn't what he once was but he still led the league in return yards last year and he's a leader in the locker room. I think this hurts the team. I can't believe fans are okay with losing Urlacher and Hester, and potentially Tillman and Peppers in a 2 year span. The D suffered last year, and will suffer even more if they lose 2 more starting players. ST will be worse. I don't like it. You can't just cut every aging player and plug someone in their spot without skipping a beat.

 
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Deranged Hermit said:
I'll be honest, I think Hester would be too expensive to keep, so I'm ok with not re-signing him. They need to hit the D hard in FA and the draft and they'll need money to do it.

I'll miss him though.
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The vet minimum or close to it is too expensive? Hester said he wasn't even contacted about re-signing and the team made it obvious they had no plans to have him back. It's ####ty and a big mistake ushering these guys out. Emery is a pos. Screw him and his crappy defensive drafting. He's a defensive idiot. Seattle and San Francisco showed how important defense was this year. We have one of the worst and it's not getting much better this year if we lose Peppers and Tillman, and possibly Melton.
 
flapgreen said:
Mistake not keeping Hester. The new regime doesn't seem to understand the importance of leadership. It showed last year on D. They seem set on getting all of the old players out at once. If Peppers is released and Tillman isn't re-signed, it will be even worse. You need veteran leaders.

We're bound to take another step back on ST. Hester isn't what he once was but he still led the league in return yards last year and he's a leader in the locker room. I think this hurts the team. I can't believe fans are okay with losing Urlacher and Hester, and potentially Tillman and Peppers in a 2 year span. The D suffered last year, and will suffer even more if they lose 2 more starting players. ST will be worse. I don't like it. You can't just cut every aging player and plug someone in their spot without skipping a beat.
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you lost me at Hester being a leader.

 
Not sure I'm following you. Shouldn't your franchise QB, or RB, or WR be able to step up and be the team leader?

 
If Urlacher could still play football, he'd have someone paying him to do it instead of having someone pay him to ##### and complain in front of a camera.

 
Bears D lost more games due to injury than any team in the NFL last year. They were playing with more than half of their D being 2nd and 3rd stringers, as well as guys off the street, for the majority of the year.

There is obviously going to be a significant overhaul.

And while the Emery drafted defensive players don't look promising, no one has any clue what that D is going to look like this year based on what they saw last year.

That includes Trestman, Emory, Mel Tucker and even flapgreen.

To say he's doing the wrong thing by letting the likes of Hester (31), Urlacher (35), Peppers (34) and Tillman (33) go, because of the prices they'll command, is just ridiculous, blind fandom.

This is a young man's game and you don't invest cap dollars into fossils. It's time to move on.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Bears D lost more games due to injury than any team in the NFL last year. They were playing with more than half of their D being 2nd and 3rd stringers, as well as guys off the street, for the majority of the year.

There is obviously going to be a significant overhaul.

And while the Emery drafted defensive players don't look promising, no one has any clue what that D is going to look like this year based on what they saw last year.

That includes Trestman, Emory, Mel Tucker and even flapgreen.

To say he's doing the wrong thing by letting the likes of Hester (31), Urlacher (35), Peppers (34) and Tillman (33) go, because of the prices they'll command, is just ridiculous, blind fandom.

This is a young man's game and you don't invest cap dollars into fossils. It's time to move on.
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I appreciate you adding me onto the end of that list. That means a lot.
 
I included Peppers on that list as an example of another lost veteran. It's pretty clear to everyone we cant keep him at his current price. I won't venture back into the Urlacher discussion again for obvious reasons.

Hester and Tillman are a different story. I'm not sure where you're getting that they'll command a high price. There's no market for guys their age to change teams. Re-signing them wouldn't be expensive and definitely not what I would consider "investing cap dollars into fossils." Those guys can still play and are better than anyone else on our roster at their positions. We won't get anything better for the same price in free agency. "Fandom" these days is cutting multiple players and expecting to replace with ease in the draft and free agency. It's not keeping veterans who can still play for another year.

 
Steelers just locked up Polamalu and Miller. Two organizations, the Steelers and the Bears. One has an unmatched record of success, the other is the Bears.

 
RBM said:
Steelers just locked up Polamalu and Miller. Two organizations, the Steelers and the Bears. One has an unmatched record of success, the other is the Bears.
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So you would just bring back anyone to keep team chemistry going? Polamalu/Miller can still play, that's why they brought them back. They let Wallace walk because it wasn't financially feasible for their team. That's the difference. Hester accounts for only a couple of plays a game. With the new kickoff rules/punting high/punting out of bounds...it's a different game. He doesn't play offense anymore or defense or isn't good on any other coverage unit. Is a couple of plays a game worth millions? Urlacher couldn't play anymore...if he could, someone would've made him an offer. What these guys did in 2008 doesn't matter in 2013/14...it's a business.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Bears D lost more games due to injury than any team in the NFL last year. They were playing with more than half of their D being 2nd and 3rd stringers, as well as guys off the street, for the majority of the year.

There is obviously going to be a significant overhaul.

And while the Emery drafted defensive players don't look promising, no one has any clue what that D is going to look like this year based on what they saw last year.

That includes Trestman, Emory, Mel Tucker and even flapgreen.

To say he's doing the wrong thing by letting the likes of Hester (31), Urlacher (35), Peppers (34) and Tillman (33) go, because of the prices they'll command, is just ridiculous, blind fandom.

This is a young man's game and you don't invest cap dollars into fossils. It's time to move on.
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I don't see how anyone could argue with this.
 
tdmills said:
RBM said:
Steelers just locked up Polamalu and Miller. Two organizations, the Steelers and the Bears. One has an unmatched record of success, the other is the Bears.
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So you would just bring back anyone to keep team chemistry going? Polamalu/Miller can still play, that's why they brought them back. They let Wallace walk because it wasn't financially feasible for their team. That's the difference. Hester accounts for only a couple of plays a game. With the new kickoff rules/punting high/punting out of bounds...it's a different game. He doesn't play offense anymore or defense or isn't good on any other coverage unit. Is a couple of plays a game worth millions? Urlacher couldn't play anymore...if he could, someone would've made him an offer. What these guys did in 2008 doesn't matter in 2013/14...it's a business.
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Hester only affects a couple of plays a game now?
 
SeveredHorseHeads said:
Limp Ditka said:
Bears D lost more games due to injury than any team in the NFL last year. They were playing with more than half of their D being 2nd and 3rd stringers, as well as guys off the street, for the majority of the year.

There is obviously going to be a significant overhaul.

And while the Emery drafted defensive players don't look promising, no one has any clue what that D is going to look like this year based on what they saw last year.

That includes Trestman, Emory, Mel Tucker and even flapgreen.

To say he's doing the wrong thing by letting the likes of Hester (31), Urlacher (35), Peppers (34) and Tillman (33) go, because of the prices they'll command, is just ridiculous, blind fandom.

This is a young man's game and you don't invest cap dollars into fossils. It's time to move on.
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I don't see how anyone could argue with this.
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Hester led league in return yards. How can you argue with that?
 
flapgreen said:
SeveredHorseHeads said:
Limp Ditka said:
Bears D lost more games due to injury than any team in the NFL last year. They were playing with more than half of their D being 2nd and 3rd stringers, as well as guys off the street, for the majority of the year.

There is obviously going to be a significant overhaul.

And while the Emery drafted defensive players don't look promising, no one has any clue what that D is going to look like this year based on what they saw last year.

That includes Trestman, Emory, Mel Tucker and even flapgreen.

To say he's doing the wrong thing by letting the likes of Hester (31), Urlacher (35), Peppers (34) and Tillman (33) go, because of the prices they'll command, is just ridiculous, blind fandom.

This is a young man's game and you don't invest cap dollars into fossils. It's time to move on.
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I don't see how anyone could argue with this.
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Hester led league in return yards. How can you argue with that?
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Defense gave him a ton of opportunities in kickoff returns.

Hester had 18 punt returns in 2013...just over 1 per game. 52 kickoff returns...3.7 per game. Like I said before he is a factor in a handful of plays per game.

1 touchdown the last 2 years returning 134 punts/kicks.....that's not worth a roster spot much less millions

 
Defensive opportunities had nothing to do with it. He was 2nd in avg on kickoff returns and 1st on punt returns, not to mention how he affects every kickoff and punt return with his presence alone. If I'm not mistaken, the Bears led the league again in starting field position. You really think TDs is the only way he affects games? He gives us the best starting field position in the league every year. The proof is right there.

Who's saying he wants millions? It sounds like he just wanted to play for the Bears. Not sure where that's coming from, probably the same place that said Urlacher would be playing somewhere if he got an offer. No one knows if he got an offer from another team or just didn't want to play for someone other than the Bears. Hester was never contacted by the Bears. He said it himself. :confused:

 
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flapgreen said:
Defensive opportunities had nothing to do with it. He was 2nd in avg on kickoff returns and 1st on punt returns, not to mention how he affects every kickoff and punt return with his presence alone. If I'm not mistaken, the Bears led the league again in starting field position. You really think TDs is the only way he affects games? He gives us the best starting field position in the league every year. The proof is right there.

Who's saying he wants millions? It sounds like he just wanted to play for the Bears. Not sure where that's coming from, probably the same place that said Urlacher would be playing somewhere if he got an offer. No one knows if he got an offer from another team or just didn't want to play for someone other than the Bears. Hester was never contacted by the Bears. He said it himself. :confused:
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Devin Hester was 5th in kickoff return average, not 2nd and he didn't even qualify(ESPN's cutoff appears to be 20) for punt returns due to only 18 on the season. He only makes a difference whenever he returns a kickoff, with the new rule it makes kickoff returning near obsolete.

Hester is a factor in maybe 4 plays a game. Add in Kicker, Punter, Long snapper, FB or 3rd TE, backup QB, etc and it severely limits choices on a 53 man roster and on game day.

For 4 plays a game...give me Eric Weems who plays every ST unit and is an above average returner himself + extra roster spot + save money.

It's simple....you seem to think about Devin Hester from 2008. Players change, times change....change is okay I promise you.

 
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