**Official 2014 In Season Dynasty Trade Thread** (1 Viewer)

[thriftyrocker]

How much less than a late first do you feel Wheaton is worth? Is it greater than a year of WR2/3 production? Perhaps I am lower on Matthews that most--of course, you have to love his situation--but I don't see any issue with moving him for Wheaton, if I'm plugging Wheaton into my WR3/flex spot (advantage).

He's not worth a 1st or early/mid 2nd in 2015 value. Other years it might be different. I don't think he ends the year as a WR3, and long term I'd expect him to be more of a role player and NFL WR3. In most my leagues he doesn't help me (my WR3 is already better). In the leagues he would help me I got a stopgap like Sanu or Hawkins who offers the same production. You said yourself a few months ago that more WRs are producing. Therefore, there's no need to spend for WR3s who will be lucky to end up as WR3s. It is interesting how he picked his game up once the season started. He was terrible in the preseason game I saw him. Now he looks like Andre Roberts.

People who took Matthews generally took him earlier than late 1st. I can appreciate someone making a quick decision on a prospect and selling for value before they struggle more, but I don't think this qualifies.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Harvin for Josh Gordon. 16 team ppr, start 3 WRs.

 

[Concept Coop]

He's not worth a 1st or early/mid 2nd in 2015 value. Other years it might be different. I don't think he ends the year as a WR3, and long term I'd expect him to be more of a role player and NFL WR3. In most my leagues he doesn't help me (my WR3 is already better). In the leagues he would help me I got a stopgap like Sanu or Hawkins who offers the same production. You said yourself a few months ago that more WRs are producing. Therefore, there's no need to spend for WR3s who will be lucky to end up as WR3s. It is interesting how he picked his game up once the season started. He was terrible in the preseason game I saw him. Now he looks like Andre Roberts.

People who took Matthews generally took him earlier than late 1st. I can appreciate someone making a quick decision on a prospect and selling for value before they struggle more, but I don't think this qualifies.

I think I disagree with your conclusion on Wheaton. I haven't closed the book on him producing fantasy WR2 value while holding an NFL WR2 spot, or him holding said NFL spot beyond this season. He's looked damn good both weeks and could have easily put up big numbers last week--had a coin flip play or two gone his way. I recall a penalty erasing a solid gain, and think there was another similar play. He's a big part of what looks to be an offensive machine (for fantasy purposes only, in part due to a poor defense).

I do agree that Matthews has a higher ceiling and is more valuable in a vacuum because of it. But I feel confident in Wheaton providing close value at season's end, after a year of "+" production at the WR3/flex spot.

I had a very strong roster with a huge hole at WR3 going into last week--Julio, D.Thomas, then nothing (Lee, Amendola). I'd have made this deal. In my others, I'd have made it the other direction.

 

[r0llin_game]

12 Team PPR QRRWWTKF

Team A gives: James Jones

Team B gives: Fred Jackson

 

[jonboltz]

12 team PPR superflex; can start as little as 1rb - max of 5wr (though you really want to have a QB flex)

Welker

for

Pierce

Lamar

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR superflex; can start as little as 1rb - max of 5wr (though you really want to have a QB flex)

Welker

for

Pierce

Lamar

Pierce/Miller

 

[One More Rep]

12 Team PPR QRRWWTKF

Team A gives: James Jones

Team B gives: Fred Jackson

Jones I guess

 

[slackjawedyokel]

16t ppr $400 salary contract league.

Team A sent:

Andre Ellington - no contract, good for this season

Michael Floyd - $12 - 3 years

RG3 - Contract broken, this season only

Charles Sims - no contract but can be signed for $5 up to 3 years

Team B sent:

Isaiah Crowell - no contract, can be signed for 3 years for $17

Terrance West - $7 contract, 3 years

Joe Flacco - $22 contract 1 year, can be renewed for $27 or dropped.

Early 2015 1st.

 

[One More Rep]

16t ppr $400 salary contract league.

Team A sent:

Andre Ellington - no contract, good for this season

Michael Floyd - $12 - 3 years

RG3 - Contract broken, this season only

Charles Sims - no contract but can be signed for $5 up to 3 years

Team B sent:

Isaiah Crowell - no contract, can be signed for 3 years for $17

Terrance West - $7 contract, 3 years

Joe Flacco - $22 contract 1 year, can be renewed for $27 or dropped.

Early 2015 1st.

Floyd

 

[PatsWillWin]

16 team non-PPR

A few days ago, I started buying into the Gordon reinstatement hype. I traded:

Torrey Smith

Jeremy Hill

for

Josh Gordon

I felt like I overpaid. Then Gordon was officially reinstated for the playoffs (which I've not missed in years in this league) and I felt better about it.

Then today the team that traded me Gordon offered me, out of the "blue":

Jeremy Hill

Jamie Collins

for

Alfred Blue

Marques Wilson

I accepted, happily.

So overall I gave:

Torrey Smith

Marques Wilson

Alfred Blue

for

Josh Gordon

Jamies Collins

 

[slackjawedyokel]

16t ppr $400 salary contract league.

Team A sent:

Andre Ellington - no contract, good for this season

Michael Floyd - $12 - 3 years

RG3 - Contract broken, this season only

Charles Sims - no contract but can be signed for $5 up to 3 years

Team B sent:

Isaiah Crowell - no contract, can be signed for 3 years for $17

Terrance West - $7 contract, 3 years

Joe Flacco - $22 contract 1 year, can be renewed for $27 or dropped.

Early 2015 1st.

Floyd

I sent Floyd. He was a solid contract and that was my selling point. I have Sammy, Gordon, Keenan Allen, Cobb, Latimer, and Robinson at WR, but only Eddie Lacy and cMike signed as RBs. For me, it amounted to trading Floyd and Sims for West, Crowell, and an early 1st. His pick was the required piece for me.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

16 team non-PPR

Then today the team that traded me Gordon offered me, out of the "blue":

Jeremy Hill

Jamie Collins

for

Alfred Blue

Marques Wilson

I accepted, happily.

So overall I gave:

Was he drunk?

 

[One More Rep]

16t ppr $400 salary contract league.

Team A sent:

Andre Ellington - no contract, good for this season

Michael Floyd - $12 - 3 years

RG3 - Contract broken, this season only

Charles Sims - no contract but can be signed for $5 up to 3 years

Team B sent:

Isaiah Crowell - no contract, can be signed for 3 years for $17

Terrance West - $7 contract, 3 years

Joe Flacco - $22 contract 1 year, can be renewed for $27 or dropped.

Early 2015 1st.

Floyd

I sent Floyd. He was a solid contract and that was my selling point. I have Sammy, Gordon, Keenan Allen, Cobb, Latimer, and Robinson at WR, but only Eddie Lacy and cMike signed as RBs. For me, it amounted to trading Floyd and Sims for West, Crowell, and an early 1st. His pick was the required piece for me.

I can see taking the backs and the pick. I am pretty high on Floyd though

 

[slackjawedyokel]

16t ppr $400 salary contract league.

Team A sent:

Andre Ellington - no contract, good for this season

Michael Floyd - $12 - 3 years

RG3 - Contract broken, this season only

Charles Sims - no contract but can be signed for $5 up to 3 years

Team B sent:

Isaiah Crowell - no contract, can be signed for 3 years for $17

Terrance West - $7 contract, 3 years

Joe Flacco - $22 contract 1 year, can be renewed for $27 or dropped.

Early 2015 1st.

Floyd

I sent Floyd. He was a solid contract and that was my selling point. I have Sammy, Gordon, Keenan Allen, Cobb, Latimer, and Robinson at WR, but only Eddie Lacy and cMike signed as RBs. For me, it amounted to trading Floyd and Sims for West, Crowell, and an early 1st. His pick was the required piece for me.

I can see taking the backs and the pick. I am pretty high on Floyd though

Agreed. I have Floyd in 5 out of 6 leagues. Now 4.

 

[Andrew74]

12 team, 0.5 PPR. Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE

I give: Asiata

I get: 2016 2nd (guess non-playoff)

Picked up in FA, glad to flip him.

 

[r0llin_game]

QRRWWTKF 12 Team PPR

Team A gave: Julio Jones, 2015 3rd

Team B gave: CJ Spiller, Michael Floyd

 

[jonboltz]

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

 

[Dan Hindery]

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

I'd take Adams and the 2nd (w/ the handcuffs mostly evening out). I've been selling on Torrey Smith since the end of last year though and am just down on him ever being more than a WR3 that is hit or miss.

 

[Dan Hindery]

16t ppr $400 salary contract league.

Team A sent:

Andre Ellington - no contract, good for this season

Michael Floyd - $12 - 3 years

RG3 - Contract broken, this season only

Charles Sims - no contract but can be signed for $5 up to 3 years

Team B sent:

Isaiah Crowell - no contract, can be signed for 3 years for $17

Terrance West - $7 contract, 3 years

Joe Flacco - $22 contract 1 year, can be renewed for $27 or dropped.

Early 2015 1st.

Floyd

I sent Floyd. He was a solid contract and that was my selling point. I have Sammy, Gordon, Keenan Allen, Cobb, Latimer, and Robinson at WR, but only Eddie Lacy and cMike signed as RBs. For me, it amounted to trading Floyd and Sims for West, Crowell, and an early 1st. His pick was the required piece for me.

I can see taking the backs and the pick. I am pretty high on Floyd though

Agreed. I have Floyd in 5 out of 6 leagues. Now 4.

Depends upon the pick. If it ends up #1, it's a great deal. If it's pretty much guaranteed to be top 5 then I think it's a pretty good deal. If it's more of a mid-1st, then I don't really like it.

I am super high on T. West. Sucks you had to give up C. Sims though. He could be a really valuable guy in a 16 team PPR league where you have to start 2 RBs.

 

[r0llin_game]

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

2nd is on the wrong side.

 

[One More Rep]

QRRWWTKF 12 Team PPR

Team A gave: Julio Jones, 2015 3rd

Team B gave: CJ Spiller, Michael Floyd

Julio

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

Adams

 

[DWest]

Made two deals on my rebuilding team,

Gave

2015 2nd (likely wildcard playoff team)

Got

John Brown

next day did a deal with the same team

Gave

Decker

2015 2nd (playoff team)

Got

Michael Floyd

 

[Dedelvis]

12 team PPR.

Gave: Ertz and Keenan Allen.

Got: Gronk and Golden Tate

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Team A Gets:

Keenan Allen

Mark Ingram

Team B Gets:

Torrey Smith

Chris Johnson

 

[Concept Coop]

Team A Gets:

Keenan Allen

Mark Ingram

Team B Gets:

Torrey Smith

Chris Johnson

If this is PPR, it's a really bad trade. Move Ingram over and it's still not enough for Allen.

 

[Concept Coop]

12 team PPR.

Gave: Ertz and Keenan Allen.

Got: Gronk and Golden Tate

You likely gave up some market value as Ertz is vastly overrated and Gronk vastly underrated, currently, IMO. But I like it for you.

 

[One More Rep]

Made two deals on my rebuilding team,

Gave

2015 2nd (likely wildcard playoff team)

Got

John Brown

next day did a deal with the same team

Gave

Decker

2015 2nd (playoff team)

Got

Michael Floyd

I like both deals for you

 

[jonboltz]

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

I'd take Adams and the 2nd (w/ the handcuffs mostly evening out). I've been selling on Torrey Smith since the end of last year though and am just down on him ever being more than a WR3 that is hit or miss.

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

2nd is on the wrong side.

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

Adams

Wow Torrey's value must really be in the dumps. Perhaps I can get him in the last few leagues I don't have him. I like Adams well enough, but he's a late first guy and nobody was giving up Torrey for less than a mid-first, at least. Two down games doesn't make me believe he forgot how to play football at a high level.

 

[UKColt]

$1000 cap salary league, 2QB league:

I gave: Heath Miller ($17/2yr), Ladarius Green ($5/5yr), David Carr ($5/5yr) & 2015 1st (likely late)

I got: Julius Thomas ($36/3yr) & 2015 4th & 5th.

I am win now, but was patchy at TE. Was happy to trade away future value (both Green & Carr are on the cheapest contract possible) to get elite production this year. I also own Kelce, who I like more than Green and still have another 2015 1st.

 

[r0llin_game]

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

I'd take Adams and the 2nd (w/ the handcuffs mostly evening out). I've been selling on Torrey Smith since the end of last year though and am just down on him ever being more than a WR3 that is hit or miss.

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

2nd is on the wrong side.

12 team PPR 2rb 3wr 1flex

Torrey Smith

Alfred Blue (Foster owner)

for

Davante Adams

CJ Anderson (Monte owner)

2015 2nd (very late)

Adams

Wow Torrey's value must really be in the dumps. Perhaps I can get him in the last few leagues I don't have him. I like Adams well enough, but he's a late first guy and nobody was giving up Torrey for less than a mid-first, at least. Two down games doesn't make me believe he forgot how to play football at a high level.

I'm not a huge fan of Torrey. Don't think he's got very good hands or is that good of a route runner. I've probably undersold him in one league where I sent Torrey, Marvin Jones, 5.11 for Bryce Brown, 2.04, 3.04. So for me, it's not just these first two games of the season for me.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

14 team PPR, start 1 RB.

Gave:

Ryan Mathews

Da'Rick Rogers

Got:

Reggie Bush

Bryce Brown

Think this might be kind of a short-sighted move because I need a startable RB now in this league, but I'll take it. Lineup is stacked otherwise and I only need one RB to start.

 

[Terpman22]

Gave: Jordan Cameron

Got: Reggie Bush + 2015 1st (1.5-1.9 range).

 

[Adam Harstad]

12 team PPR.

Gave: Ertz and Keenan Allen.

Got: Gronk and Golden Tate

Like my license plate, this trade reads GRNKSMSH.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Team A Gets:

Keenan Allen

Mark Ingram

Team B Gets:

Torrey Smith

Chris Johnson

Allen is a lot better than Torrey. Ingram is a lot better than Johnson.

 

[Adam Harstad]

14 team PPR, start 1 RB.

Gave:

Ryan Mathews

Da'Rick Rogers

Got:

Reggie Bush

Bryce Brown

Think this might be kind of a short-sighted move because I need a startable RB now in this league, but I'll take it. Lineup is stacked otherwise and I only need one RB to start.

I like it, but I'm higher on Bush than consensus, (I prefer him to Mathews straight up, Brown is just gravy).

 

[thriftyrocker]

12 team PPR.

Gave: Ertz and Keenan Allen.

Got: Gronk and Golden Tate

You likely gave up some market value as Ertz is vastly overrated and Gronk vastly underrated, currently, IMO. But I like it for you.

I'd take Allen over Gronk esp if I had another solid option to spot start with Ertz. And Ertz over Tate rather easily.

 

[jonboltz]

12 team PPR.

Gave: Ertz and Keenan Allen.

Got: Gronk and Golden Tate

You likely gave up some market value as Ertz is vastly overrated and Gronk vastly underrated, currently, IMO. But I like it for you.

I'd take Allen over Gronk esp if I had another solid option to spot start with Ertz. And Ertz over Tate rather easily.

Give me Gronk over Allen and Tate/Ertz as a coinflip.

 

[FUBAR]

Roddy white for a 2015 1st (likely 11-16)

WR are king in this league, team trading white is in a build year.

 

[ghostguy123]

Team A Gets:

Keenan Allen

Mark Ingram

Team B Gets:

Torrey Smith

Chris Johnson

Allen is a lot better than Torrey. Ingram is a lot better than Johnson.

I would take Allen and Ingram right now if both of them tore their ACLs yesterday. Deal makes no sense.

 

[ghostguy123]

Jeremy Hill

Jamie Collins

for

Alfred Blue

Marques Wilson

 

[ghostguy123]

Gave

Decker

2015 2nd (playoff team)

Got

Michael Floyd

Good god. WHat kinds of leagues are these where deals like this happen?

 

[JPeso]

I've made a few Griffin back-fill trades. Don't love the value on any of them.

GAVE DeAndre Hopkins, Martellus Bennett

GOT Russell Wilson, Austin Seferian-Jenkins

(had no QB2, max 3 WR start, still have Julio, DT, Dez, Jeffery, Floyd, Randle)

GAVE Aaron Dobson

GOT Ben Roethlisberger

(Dobson in a bubble worth more, league was holding my balls for having no QB2, Dobson was WR10 on team)

GAVE Tyler Eifert

GOT Phillip Rivers

(Again, Eifert in a bubble worth more, no one dealing a QB, still left with Gronk/Ebron in a start 1 TE max)

 

[maxhyde]

Made two deals on my rebuilding team,

Gave

2015 2nd (likely wildcard playoff team)

Got

John Brown

next day did a deal with the same team

Gave

Decker

2015 2nd (playoff team)

Got

Michael Floyd

Personally think that is an overpay for Brown but I love the Floyd deal for you

 

[maxhyde]

12 team PPR.

Gave: Ertz and Keenan Allen.

Got: Gronk and Golden Tate

Pretty fair.

I would probably take Gronk still

 

[thriftyrocker]

I've made a few Griffin back-fill trades. Don't love the value on any of them.

Found myself in a similar situation in one league and decided I'd rather just start Alex Smith every week. Like the Dobson deal best as I don't see much long term success in him.

 

[Concept Coop]

12 Tm - QRWWTFF PPR:1/1/1.25

A gave: Brees, Forte, E.Sanders

B gave: Ryan, Lacy, Hilton

 

[jonboltz]

I've made a few Griffin back-fill trades. Don't love the value on any of them.

Found myself in a similar situation in one league and decided I'd rather just start Alex Smith every week. Like the Dobson deal best as I don't see much long term success in him.

That was my deal with him. I think Dobson was the pretty much the worst ADP player on his team, lol.

 

[treat88]

Gave: Jordan Reed

Got: 2015 1st round pick (likely in the 8-12 range)

 

[ceejee]

14 team PPR, start 1 RB.

Gave:

Ryan Mathews

Da'Rick Rogers

Got:

Reggie Bush

Bryce Brown

Think this might be kind of a short-sighted move because I need a startable RB now in this league, but I'll take it. Lineup is stacked otherwise and I only need one RB to start.

I like this a lot for you - I take Bush over Matthews, and Brown over Rogers.