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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)

btw... it's INSANE to me that after 1+ rounds, all of a sudden everybody's assuming we get a result against Portugal.

I love that this WC is inpiring that kind of confidence, but :insane:
not the oddsmakers. usa +381 for the win
ah- ok. I don't follow betting, so it's just news talking heads and in here for me.and maybe "insane" is an overstatement... Portugal is as ripe as they possibly could be for an upset given the missing players. I don't dislike the US's chances- certainly capable of getting this done (and I've been telling anybody I meet that the US is capable of beating any team in this WC... if the wind blows the right way). But it would definitely be an upset to get points here.
US is not going to win.
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Dressing up like an absolute jackass in Stars and stripes with a group of folks and about to post up at the soccer-Hub of Memphis (Irish pub in midtown). Getting there at open-ish (11:30) for any chance of a table for the US match at 5pm. The corner its on will be a block party by 2pm and bedlam by first kick.

Can't ####### wait. :banned:

US 2-1

 
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Dressing up like an absolute jackass in Stars and bars with a group of folks and about to post up at the soccer-Hub of Memphis (Irish pub in midtown). Getting there at open-ish (11:30) for any chance of a table for the US match at 5pm. The corner its on will be a block party by 2pm and bedlam by first kick.

Can't ####### wait. :banned:

US 2-1
Are you sure you're not using that colloquialism wrong? The picture kinda says something different...

 
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Dressing up like an absolute jackass in Stars and bars with a group of folks and about to post up at the soccer-Hub of Memphis (Irish pub in midtown). Getting there at open-ish (11:30) for any chance of a table for the US match at 5pm. The corner its on will be a block party by 2pm and bedlam by first kick.

Can't ####### wait. :banned:

US 2-1
Are you sure you're not using that colloquialism wrong? The picture kinda says something different...
Yes I am... I'm aware it's not the confederate flag. Have heard it used in reference to current flag as well but apparently incorrectly. Stars and Stripes it is :lol:
 
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Nate Silver has it:

US win: 35%

Portugal win: 36%

Draw: 29%

Oddsmakers have dramatically overrated Europe in this tournament so far. I think Silver is onto something with his "home continent" adjustment.

Or maybe the World Cup just brings out so much dumb money that they're setting the odds based on brand name rather than worrying about the most likely results.
I always thought bookies give #### all about who's playing and just set odds to get money coming in from both sides.

 
Nate Silver has it:

US win: 35%

Portugal win: 36%

Draw: 29%

Oddsmakers have dramatically overrated Europe in this tournament so far. I think Silver is onto something with his "home continent" adjustment.

Or maybe the World Cup just brings out so much dumb money that they're setting the odds based on brand name rather than worrying about the most likely results.
I always thought bookies give #### all about who's playing and just set odds to get money coming in from both sides.
Somewhat true.

 
Nate Silver has it:

US win: 35%

Portugal win: 36%

Draw: 29%

Oddsmakers have dramatically overrated Europe in this tournament so far. I think Silver is onto something with his "home continent" adjustment.

Or maybe the World Cup just brings out so much dumb money that they're setting the odds based on brand name rather than worrying about the most likely results.
I always thought bookies give #### all about who's playing and just set odds to get money coming in from both sides.
Vegas does that, but someone who seemed like they knew what they were talking about said it was done differently elsewhere in the world. No idea if that's true though, so maybe I have it completely wrong.

 
I can't make up my mind if I want to kiss Klinsmann, or muzzle him:

“There is a lot of admiration for Cristiano,” Klinsmann said. “But this is now the moment you can prove yourself. This is the moment where you can step up and play those guys and put them in place. We want to put Cristiano and his team in place.”
“We’ve been looking forward to this moment for quite a while,” he said. “We want to take our game to Portugal. We are full of energy. We are very impatient. We want to get this started.”
 
Nate Silver has it:

US win: 35%

Portugal win: 36%

Draw: 29%

Oddsmakers have dramatically overrated Europe in this tournament so far. I think Silver is onto something with his "home continent" adjustment.

Or maybe the World Cup just brings out so much dumb money that they're setting the odds based on brand name rather than worrying about the most likely results.
I always thought bookies give #### all about who's playing and just set odds to get money coming in from both sides.
Not at all true. They take stands on games they like.

 
Most impressive team so far, over 2 games?

You could make make an argument for Mexico. They had two legitimate goals disallowed against Brazil and ought to be sitting on top of that group. Argentina has looked rather unimpressive save for Messi's brilliance; but Messi will be around. Germany looked unstoppable in their first game, but not quite the overwhelming force in that second exciting game; but they'll obviously be in the hunt.

Brazil has looked pedestrian at times; but they are the home team. Uruguay with Suarez is a different team. The Netherlands was dominant in their first game; not so much in the second. Chile, Colombia and Costa Rica have looked good. Belgium has only played one game.

 
Most impressive team so far, over 2 games?

You could make make an argument for Mexico. They had two legitimate goals disallowed against Brazil and ought to be sitting on top of that group. Argentina has looked rather unimpressive save for Messi's brilliance; but Messi will be around. Germany looked unstoppable in their first game, but not quite the overwhelming force in that second exciting game; but they'll obviously be in the hunt.

Brazil has looked pedestrian at times; but they are the home team. Uruguay with Suarez is a different team. The Netherlands was dominant in their first game; not so much in the second. Chile, Colombia and Costa Rica have looked good. Belgium has only played one game.
France down?

I think Argentina will be tough to beat in the knockout stages.

I'd put the top-4 right now at: Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France (no particular order)

Next 4: Holland, Colombia, Chile, Uruguay

Next 4: Mexico, Costa Rica, USA, Belgium

Next 4: Russia, Italy, Croatia, Nigeria

 
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Most impressive team so far, over 2 games?

You could make make an argument for Mexico. They had two legitimate goals disallowed against Brazil and ought to be sitting on top of that group. Argentina has looked rather unimpressive save for Messi's brilliance; but Messi will be around. Germany looked unstoppable in their first game, but not quite the overwhelming force in that second exciting game; but they'll obviously be in the hunt.

Brazil has looked pedestrian at times; but they are the home team. Uruguay with Suarez is a different team. The Netherlands was dominant in their first game; not so much in the second. Chile, Colombia and Costa Rica have looked good. Belgium has only played one game.
Mexico's disallowed goals were against Cameroon.

 
Someone made a good comment on Big Soccer. If Wondo starts today instead of Bacon, the age of the US team is pretty high for a WC game

Howard age 36

Johnson 26

Cameron 28

Besler 27

Beasley 32

Bedloya 27

Bradley 26

Beckerman 32

Jones 32

Dempsey 31

Wondo 31

6 players over 30 is not common for a starting lineup.

 
Just a side note, but I am getting a little annoyed at all of Bruce Arena's snide comments about the team and the USMNT program in general.

I have always thought Arena, like Donovan, was a key player in getting the US to this point, but he needs to let go of the fact that he does not rule the roost anymore.

 
I lied. Here's your updated list....for those of you planning on sticking it out in the soccer thread, the full post does have all of the club teams listed too. Link is in my sig.

International

United States - everyone (probably?)

Argentina - Sebowski, otello, Gianmarco, DiStefano

Bolivia - Sebowski

Brazil - Desert Power, Z's wife, Derek, Abrantes, SmoovySmoov, Corporation

Canada - Polsonov?

Chile - BassNBrew

Croatia - kblitz

Denmark - Major

Ecuador - Sand

Egypt - Jmon

England - SmoovySmoov, AAABatteries, Txns8, theprince, T Bell, Charvik, Jonessed, Christo, Corporation

Germany - Mjolnirs, eagles2007, editor47, Bonzai, Short Corner, Corporation, Fariq, Bierfiend, Jayrod

Ireland - PIK95

Italy - Steve Tasker, Texas Football, otello, Boubucarow, Gianmarco, Kafka

Japan - SmoovySmoov

Netherlands - MrPhoenix, AAABatteries, Major, Abraham

Nigeria - Eephus

Portugal - Gator

Serbia - Vipers

Spain - Sebowski, Kansas Comet, Z Machine, The Reytheist, Good Posting Judge, ilov80s

Trinidat & Tobago - Fariq

Turkey - Steve Tasker

Venezuela - Z's wife, Z Machine

Wales - Jonessed
Please move me to the front of the England line. Residency has it's privileges.

 
I lied. Here's your updated list....for those of you planning on sticking it out in the soccer thread, the full post does have all of the club teams listed too. Link is in my sig.

International

United States - everyone (probably?)

Argentina - Sebowski, otello, Gianmarco, DiStefano

Bolivia - Sebowski

Brazil - Desert Power, Z's wife, Derek, Abrantes, SmoovySmoov, Corporation

Canada - Polsonov?

Chile - BassNBrew

Croatia - kblitz

Denmark - Major

Ecuador - Sand

Egypt - Jmon

England - SmoovySmoov, AAABatteries, Txns8, theprince, T Bell, Charvik, Jonessed, Christo, Corporation

Germany - Mjolnirs, eagles2007, editor47, Bonzai, Short Corner, Corporation, Fariq, Bierfiend, Jayrod

Ireland - PIK95

Italy - Steve Tasker, Texas Football, otello, Boubucarow, Gianmarco, Kafka

Japan - SmoovySmoov

Netherlands - MrPhoenix, AAABatteries, Major, Abraham

Nigeria - Eephus

Portugal - Gator

Serbia - Vipers

Spain - Sebowski, Kansas Comet, Z Machine, The Reytheist, Good Posting Judge, ilov80s

Trinidat & Tobago - Fariq

Turkey - Steve Tasker

Venezuela - Z's wife, Z Machine

Wales - Jonessed
You can add me to Italy. I am surprised Floppo is not listed with Italy too.
His burning hatred for Rossi notwithstanding?

 
I lied. Here's your updated list....for those of you planning on sticking it out in the soccer thread, the full post does have all of the club teams listed too. Link is in my sig.

International

United States - everyone (probably?)

Argentina - Sebowski, otello, Gianmarco, DiStefano

Bolivia - Sebowski

Brazil - Desert Power, Z's wife, Derek, Abrantes, SmoovySmoov, Corporation

Canada - Polsonov?

Chile - BassNBrew

Croatia - kblitz

Denmark - Major

Ecuador - Sand

Egypt - Jmon

England - SmoovySmoov, AAABatteries, Txns8, theprince, T Bell, Charvik, Jonessed, Christo, Corporation

Germany - Mjolnirs, eagles2007, editor47, Bonzai, Short Corner, Corporation, Fariq, Bierfiend, Jayrod

Ireland - PIK95

Italy - Steve Tasker, Texas Football, otello, Boubucarow, Gianmarco, Kafka

Japan - SmoovySmoov

Netherlands - MrPhoenix, AAABatteries, Major, Abraham

Nigeria - Eephus

Portugal - Gator

Serbia - Vipers

Spain - Sebowski, Kansas Comet, Z Machine, The Reytheist, Good Posting Judge, ilov80s

Trinidat & Tobago - Fariq

Turkey - Steve Tasker

Venezuela - Z's wife, Z Machine

Wales - Jonessed
You can add me to Italy. I am surprised Floppo is not listed with Italy too.
Look- there's USA and there's... #### em.

eta: and Giuseppe ####### Rossi

eta2: cat and 2yo woke me up at 4:45. I hate everything right now.
There it is. 2 posts later.

 
Still no decision on Alves. It looks like it may come down to how he feels in warm ups.

Best case scenario is that he tries to gut it out and has to take an early sub. Second best case would be to just sit. Changing 3 of their back 4 with lesser players should work to the US's advantage assuming the subs don't elevate their game.

The good news is that if 3 players change, the backline likely won't have had a ton of minutes playing together.

 
Just a side note, but I am getting a little annoyed at all of Bruce Arena's snide comments about the team and the USMNT program in general.

I have always thought Arena, like Donovan, was a key player in getting the US to this point, but he needs to let go of the fact that he does not rule the roost anymore.
He is a miserable guy in general. He never has a good word for anyone.

 
Just a side note, but I am getting a little annoyed at all of Bruce Arena's snide comments about the team and the USMNT program in general.

I have always thought Arena, like Donovan, was a key player in getting the US to this point, but he needs to let go of the fact that he does not rule the roost anymore.
What did he say now?

I've always thought he was one of the main drivers of the stuff in the anti-Klinsmann article. Especially with his comments recently.

 
I'm going to have to pace my Likes here. At this rate I'm gonna be out by kickoff.
Should have thought of that myself....Oops! Something went wrong!

[#10127] You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day

 
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Someone made a good comment on Big Soccer. If Wondo starts today instead of Bacon, the age of the US team is pretty high for a WC game

Howard age 36

Johnson 26

Cameron 28

Besler 27

Beasley 32

Bedloya 27

Bradley 26

Beckerman 32

Jones 32

Dempsey 31

Wondo 31

6 players over 30 is not common for a starting lineup.
Maybe the reason Klinsmann wanted young legs on the bench.

 
Back from vactation, no espn no problemo. Will help me brush up on my espanol.

I wonder what their version of OYYYYEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH is

 
Good morning. In less than nine hours, Americans from here will join others from around the world. And we will be watching the most important battle in the history of United States Soccer.

US Soccer - that should have new meaning for all of us today.
We can't be consumed by our injury concerns, or their Cristiano Ronaldo
We will be united in our common interests.

Perhaps it's fate that today is the 22nd of June, and Jurgen will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from World Cup annihilation.

We're fighting for our right to advance, to exist.
And should we win the day, the 22nd of June will not just be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the Yanks declared in one voice:
"We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We're going to live on!
We're going to survive!"
Today, the USMNT celebrates our Advancement Day!
 

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