*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (3 Viewers)

[BigJohn]

As a fan, I want to see the SEC champ in the NC for several reasons.1. If ND makes it, they will get embarrassed which would make me happy.2. If Oregon/USC make it they will once again show they can play with the very best the SEC has to offer and will help solidify their spot as the best college sports conference.3. With the SEC's consecutive title run, they almost deserve an automatic bid until proven otherwise.

Well, for you, 1 out of 3 isn't bad.

 

[GeauxTigers]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

 

[GeauxTigers]

Good playcalling, OL played much better, and the receivers actually caught balls.

I was completely surprised with how LSU's O line moved USC's off the ball and gave the QB time.Now the #9 Gamecocks go to #3 Florida. What a stretch of games.

What impressed me the most was the O Line of LSU. They won the battle in the trenches with 2 freshmen filling in. This gives me hope for LSU's future. LSU is a very young team now with the 2 freshmen O Linemen.Geaux Tigers!

 

[GeauxTigers]

Hey Auburn, Ruben Foster was at the LSU/S. Carolina game this past weekend.



LINK

 

[GeauxTigers]

Alabama stats:Total Defense -1Scoring Defense - 1Rushing Defense - 1Passing Defense - 1Scoring Offense -17

In fairness, we got Missouri and Arkansas' backup qbs. Still a great defense, but haven't been tested yet. Looking at the schedule and the pathetic group of offenses in the SEC right now....it's safe to say that the best offense we will see the rest of the regular season is the one we line up against in practice every day.

Good to see you coming around

Big 10 is ####### terrible dude. Go back to the great slow north.

 

[GeauxTigers]

Florida at #2 in the first BCS ranking....ND in the top 5...LSU and USCe the top 1 loss teams at 6 and 7.http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?week=8&pollId=3

Seems about right.

 

[gump]

Hey Bentley / snow monkey....do the Saban-to-Texas rumors start now, or after the Baylor game?

 

[GeauxTigers]

What would be interesting is if Oregon and ND went undefeated and there's a one loss SEC team...who are they choosing between ND and Oregon?

It would depend on how well OU and USC finish the season.

 

[GeauxTigers]

I don't think they'd take both ND and Oregon over the mighty SEC.

Good to see you coming around.

 

[The Commish]

Alabama stats:Total Defense -1Scoring Defense - 1Rushing Defense - 1Passing Defense - 1Scoring Offense -17

In fairness, we got Missouri and Arkansas' backup qbs. Still a great defense, but haven't been tested yet. Looking at the schedule and the pathetic group of offenses in the SEC right now....it's safe to say that the best offense we will see the rest of the regular season is the one we line up against in practice every day.

Good to see you coming around

Big 10 is ####### terrible dude. Go back to the great slow north.

What does this have to do with the discussion we were having that you quoted? I don't mind your dumb little quips and uninformed comments but at least make them in context of the discussion, or better yet, just put me on ignore.

 

[The Commish]

I don't think they'd take both ND and Oregon over the mighty SEC.

Good to see you coming around.

This is where I started....do you know what "coming around" means?? It's pretty clear how the BCS works...glad it's going away.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 1144. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

 

[madhatter]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

You're starting to make me wish there was more LHucks and less you in this thread.

 

[The Commish]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 1144. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

 

[prefontaine]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 1144. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

 

[Christo]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

 

[GeauxTigers]

This week's TV Schedule. Good game are bolded.

Tuesday, October 16th

Louisiana Lafayette at North Texas 8:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)

Thursday, October 18th

Hampton at NC Central 6:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9

DII: North Alabama at West Georgia 6:30 p.m. CSS (cable) / espn3

Houston at SMU 7:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD)

DII: New Haven at Stonehill 7:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)

Oregon at Arizona State 8:00 p.m. ESPN (HD)

Friday, October 19th

Connecticut at Syracuse 7:00 p.m. ESPN (HD) / espn3 *9

Saturday, October 20th

Iowa State at Oklahoma State 11:00 a.m. FX (HD)

LSU at Texas A&M 11:00 a.m. ESPN (HD) (3D) / espn3 *9

Minnesota at Wisconsin 11:00 a.m. ESPNU (HD) / espn3 *9

New Hampshire at Maine 11:00 a.m. (CSNE / CSMA / CSBA) *5 / TCN (cable)

Northern Illinois at Akron 11:00 a.m. ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3

Penn at Yale 11:00 a.m. NBCSN (HD)

Purdue at Ohio State 11:00 a.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7

Rutgers at Temple 11:00 a.m. SNY / MASN / ESPN-GP / ERTV / espn3

Virginia Tech at Clemson 11:00 a.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7

Auburn at Vanderbilt 11:21 a.m. SEC Network *4 / ESPN-GP / espn3

Wake Forest at Virginia 11:30 a.m. (ESPN-GP / espn3) *2 / ACC Network (HD) *3

Florida International at Troy 12:00 p.m. (ESPN-GP / espn3) / Sun Belt Network

Boston College at Georgia Tech 2:00 p.m. (FSN Affiliates (HD) / ESPN-GP / espn3) *5

Stanford at California 2:00 p.m. FOX (HD)

BYU at Notre Dame 2:30 p.m. NBC (HD) / nbcsports.com

Indiana at Navy 2:30 p.m. CBSSN (HD) / Video

James Madison at Richmond 2:30 p.m. (CSNC / CSMA) *5 / TCN (cable)

Michigan State at Michigan 2:30 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go.com

Montana at North Dakota 2:30 p.m. RSRM / RSNW / DirecTV: 239-1

Nebraska at Northwestern 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7

North Carolina State at Maryland 2:30 p.m. ESPNU (HD)

Pittsburgh at Buffalo 2:30 p.m. SNY / MASN / ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3

Rice at Tulsa 2:30 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD) / FCSC (cable)

South Carolina at Florida 2:30 p.m. CBS (HD) / cbssports.com

South Florida at Louisville 2:30 p.m. (ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7 / ESPN-GP?

Texas Tech at TCU 2:30 p.m. ABC (HD) / ESPN2 (HD)) *7 / ESPN-GP?

UNLV at Boise State 2:30 p.m. NBCSN (HD)

Nicholls State at Stephen F. Austin 3:00 p.m. ESPN-GP / SLCTV (cable / Video) / espn3

Colorado at USC 5:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com

Alabama at Tennessee 6:00 p.m. ESPN (HD)

Georgia at Kentucky 6:00 p.m. FS South (HD)

Idaho at Louisiana Tech 6:00 p.m. MASN / ESPN-GP / ERTV (cable) / espn3

Kansas at Oklahoma 6:00 p.m. FSN Affiliates (HD)

Kansas State at West Virginia 6:00 p.m. FOX (HD)

Middle Tennessee at Mississippi State 6:00 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)

New Mexico at Air Force 6:00 p.m. RSRM

North Carolina at Duke 6:00 p.m. ESPNU (HD)

Marshall at Southern Miss 6:00 p.m. CBSSN (HD)

Baylor at Texas 7:00 p.m. ABC (HD) / ESPN-GP

Florida State at Miami 7:00 p.m. ABC (HD) / ESPN-GP

Penn State at Iowa 7:00 p.m. BTN (HD) / btn2go.com

Washington at Arizona 9:00 p.m. PAC-12 Network (HD) / pac-12.com

San Diego State at Nevada 9:30 p.m. CBSSN (HD)

Utah at Oregon State 9:30 p.m. ESPN2 (HD)

Wyoming at Fresno State 9:30 p.m. RSRM / CSBA / TW (cable)

Games online only or not yet scheduled for nationally available networks.

Army at Eastern Michigan 12:00 p.m. espn3

Ball State at Central Michigan 2:30 p.m. espn3

Bowling Green at UMass 11:00 a.m. TBA

Bucknell at Lehigh 11:30 a.m. SE2 (cable)

Cincinnati at Toledo 6:00 p.m. espn3

Concord at Liberty 2:30 p.m. Flames Sports (cable) / espn3

East Carolina at UAB 6:00 p.m. FCSA (cable)

Eastern Kentucky at Tennessee Tech 7:00 p.m. OVC / WCTE (cable)

Florida Atlantic at South Alabama 2:30 p.m. TBA

Harvard at Princeton 12:00 p.m. espn3

Holy Cross at Lafayette 12:00 p.m. LSN (cable)

Idaho State at Northern Colorado 2:30 p.m. Big Sky

Louisiana Monroe at Western Kentucky 3:00 p.m. espn3

McNeese State at Sam Houston State 7:00 p.m. Comcast Houston

New Mexico State at Utah State 2:00 p.m. KMYU (cable) / AggieVision

North Dakota State at South Dakota 6:00 p.m. Midco Sports

Portland State at Cal Poly 8:00 p.m. (KSBY / CSNNW) (cable) / Big Sky

Presbyterian at Charleston Southern 12:30 p.m. espn3

Sacramento State at Eastern Washington 6:00 p.m. SWX (cable) / Big Sky

San Diego at Jacksonville 12:00 p.m. WCWJ (cable)

San Jose State at UTSA 1:00 p.m. espn3

DII: Shorter at West Alabama 3:30 p.m. CSS (cable)

South Dakota State at Northern Iowa 4:00 p.m. Mediacom (cable)

Tennessee State at Jacksonville State 11:00 a.m. FCSP (cable)

Tulane at UTEP 7:00 p.m. TBA

UC Davis at Northern Arizona 6:00 p.m. NAU-TV / FSAZ+ / Big Sky

UCF at Memphis 7:00 p.m. CSS (cable)

UT Martin at Southeast Missouri 1:00 p.m. OVC

Valparaiso at Dayton 12:00 p.m. Video

Wagner at Saint Francis (PA) 11:00 a.m. NEC Front Row

Weber State at Southern Utah 2:00 p.m. Big Sky

Western Carolina at Elon 2:00 p.m. espn3

Western Michigan at Kent State 2:30 p.m. TBA

 

[GeauxTigers]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 1144. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

This commish guy has no idea what he is talking about. If ANY SEC teams goes undefeated they will be the consensus #1 team in the BCS poll.

 

[Moe.]

Nice to see a decent Thursday night game this week. Feels dirty watching the NFL on Thursdays.

 

[gump]

Good playcalling, OL played much better, and the receivers actually caught balls.

I was completely surprised with how LSU's O line moved USC's off the ball and gave the QB time.Now the #9 Gamecocks go to #3 Florida. What a stretch of games.

What impressed me the most was the O Line of LSU. They won the battle in the trenches with 2 freshmen filling in. This gives me hope for LSU's future. LSU is a very young team now with the 2 freshmen O Linemen.Geaux Tigers!

Depth is something I think that separates LSU and Alabama from SC, and most other teams in the country. Florida has been there also...but I haven't kept up thru the chaotic last few years. As long as there wasn't much attrition, they have that difference maker also.

 

[The Commish]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 1144. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

They haven't played all their FCS teams yet...if the gap's close between them and the next person, two games like that left will hurt them a good deal, especially in the computers. This shouldn't be news. I understand what they have left, but you're overhyping UGA imo. That game shouldn't be an issue for them. USC is trying not to let the LSU loss turn into two. And lastly, my comments were about their regular season. I can see how a win against Alabama in the SECCG could put them over the top, but they might have to do that from the #3 spot depending on how things play out (especially if there are multiple undefeated teams). That's all.

 

[prefontaine]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record

2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record

3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 114

4. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)

That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

They haven't played all their FCS teams yet...if the gap's close between them and the next person, two games like that left will hurt them a good deal, especially in the computers. This shouldn't be news. I understand what they have left, but you're overhyping UGA imo. That game shouldn't be an issue for them. USC is trying not to let the LSU loss turn into two. And lastly, my comments were about their regular season. I can see how a win against Alabama in the SECCG could put them over the top, but they might have to do that from the #3 spot depending on how things play out (especially if there are multiple undefeated teams). That's all.

They only have one FCS game. Florida will have beaten (per current BCS rank) #6 LSU, #7 South Carolina, #11 Georgia, #14 Florida State, and #18 Texas A&M. All before the SEC title game. And you honestly think there is any chance they get jumped? And your rationale for it is SOS? Come on man. I get that you are anti-SEC but that's just silly.

 

[The Commish]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record

2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record

3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 114

4. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)

That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

They haven't played all their FCS teams yet...if the gap's close between them and the next person, two games like that left will hurt them a good deal, especially in the computers. This shouldn't be news. I understand what they have left, but you're overhyping UGA imo. That game shouldn't be an issue for them. USC is trying not to let the LSU loss turn into two. And lastly, my comments were about their regular season. I can see how a win against Alabama in the SECCG could put them over the top, but they might have to do that from the #3 spot depending on how things play out (especially if there are multiple undefeated teams). That's all.

They only have one FCS game. Florida will have beaten (per current BCS rank) #6 LSU, #7 South Carolina, #11 Georgia, #14 Florida State, and #18 Texas A&M. All before the SEC title game. And you honestly think there is any chance they get jumped? And your rationale for it is SOS? Come on man. I get that you are anti-SEC but that's just silly.

I'm not anti-SEC at all. I love their brand of football...especially LSU and Alabama. They go back to the Bo days. Unfortunately, the media treats them the way they do. Anything I say against the SEC is always framed in the BCS era. Has nothing to do with the conference itself. I'd say the same things about any other conference.Back to your comment about the rankings. I'm not sure where those come from. You're using the polls as they are today and that's not how the BCS works. What if FSU goes into the pooper and loses a couple more games? Same with Georgia (which is almost a guarantee IMO). I'm willing to bet LSU loses again as well. So yeah, I think it's possible that if Florida is close to the number three team (especially if it's another undefeated ND/Oregon) that when they get to Jacksonville State and La-Lafayette and ND/Oregon are playing Oklahoma, Pitt etc (in the case of ND) or USC, Cal, Stanford (in the case of Oregon) those teams can close the gap during that time and possibly overtake them.

 

[Mjolnirs]

A Gamecock victory this weekend would solve this little debate.

 

[The Commish]

A Gamecock victory this weekend would solve this little debate.

Absolutely.

 

[Slapdash]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record

2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record

3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 114

4. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)

That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

They haven't played all their FCS teams yet...if the gap's close between them and the next person, two games like that left will hurt them a good deal, especially in the computers. This shouldn't be news. I understand what they have left, but you're overhyping UGA imo. That game shouldn't be an issue for them. USC is trying not to let the LSU loss turn into two. And lastly, my comments were about their regular season. I can see how a win against Alabama in the SECCG could put them over the top, but they might have to do that from the #3 spot depending on how things play out (especially if there are multiple undefeated teams). That's all.

They only have one FCS game. Florida will have beaten (per current BCS rank) #6 LSU, #7 South Carolina, #11 Georgia, #14 Florida State, and #18 Texas A&M. All before the SEC title game. And you honestly think there is any chance they get jumped? And your rationale for it is SOS? Come on man. I get that you are anti-SEC but that's just silly.

I'm not anti-SEC at all. I love their brand of football...especially LSU and Alabama. They go back to the Bo days. Unfortunately, the media treats them the way they do. Anything I say against the SEC is always framed in the BCS era. Has nothing to do with the conference itself. I'd say the same things about any other conference.Back to your comment about the rankings. I'm not sure where those come from. You're using the polls as they are today and that's not how the BCS works. What if FSU goes into the pooper and loses a couple more games? Same with Georgia (which is almost a guarantee IMO). I'm willing to bet LSU loses again as well. So yeah, I think it's possible that if Florida is close to the number three team (especially if it's another undefeated ND/Oregon) that when they get to Jacksonville State and La-Lafayette and ND/Oregon are playing Oklahoma, Pitt etc (in the case of ND) or USC, Cal, Stanford (in the case of Oregon) those teams can close the gap during that time and possibly overtake them.

Not to pick nits, but who do you see Georgia losing to outside of Florida? This is what it looks like besides that game: @ Kentucky, Ole Miss, @ Auburn, Georgia Southern, and Georgia Tech. They'll be a very overrated 2-loss team, but they shouldn't even come close to losing any of those.

 

[General Malaise]

Oregon better look the hell out on Thursday. This game has TRAP written all over it.

 

[The Commish]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record

2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record

3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 114

4. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)

That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

They haven't played all their FCS teams yet...if the gap's close between them and the next person, two games like that left will hurt them a good deal, especially in the computers. This shouldn't be news. I understand what they have left, but you're overhyping UGA imo. That game shouldn't be an issue for them. USC is trying not to let the LSU loss turn into two. And lastly, my comments were about their regular season. I can see how a win against Alabama in the SECCG could put them over the top, but they might have to do that from the #3 spot depending on how things play out (especially if there are multiple undefeated teams). That's all.

They only have one FCS game. Florida will have beaten (per current BCS rank) #6 LSU, #7 South Carolina, #11 Georgia, #14 Florida State, and #18 Texas A&M. All before the SEC title game. And you honestly think there is any chance they get jumped? And your rationale for it is SOS? Come on man. I get that you are anti-SEC but that's just silly.

I'm not anti-SEC at all. I love their brand of football...especially LSU and Alabama. They go back to the Bo days. Unfortunately, the media treats them the way they do. Anything I say against the SEC is always framed in the BCS era. Has nothing to do with the conference itself. I'd say the same things about any other conference.Back to your comment about the rankings. I'm not sure where those come from. You're using the polls as they are today and that's not how the BCS works. What if FSU goes into the pooper and loses a couple more games? Same with Georgia (which is almost a guarantee IMO). I'm willing to bet LSU loses again as well. So yeah, I think it's possible that if Florida is close to the number three team (especially if it's another undefeated ND/Oregon) that when they get to Jacksonville State and La-Lafayette and ND/Oregon are playing Oklahoma, Pitt etc (in the case of ND) or USC, Cal, Stanford (in the case of Oregon) those teams can close the gap during that time and possibly overtake them.

Not to pick nits, but who do you see Georgia losing to outside of Florida? This is what it looks like besides that game: @ Kentucky, Ole Miss, @ Auburn, Georgia Southern, and Georgia Tech. They'll be a very overrated 2-loss team, but they shouldn't even come close to losing any of those.

I'd I predict they will lose two of Florida, GT and Auburn. They shouldn't lose to any of them but Florida.ETA: Now, I should say this as well (pertaining to the conversation above). If Florida goes on to win all their games and all their opponents go on to win all their games (except when they play Florida) Florida won't have any issues being in the top 2. I just don't think that's likely to happen and that's really not Florida's fault.

 

[LHUCKS]

Nice to see a decent Thursday night game this week. Feels dirty watching the NFL on Thursdays.

It really does, ####s up my entire weekly routine too.

Don't like it.

 

[prefontaine]

Not that FSU deserves anything after blowing a gasket at NCSU...but unranked in like 6 computer polls?

Consider who is among Florida State's six wins:1. Murray State ... FCS team, 3-4 record

2. Savannah State ... FCS team, 0-6 record

3. Boston College ... 1-5 record, only win against FCS Maine, Sagarin ELO rank of 114

4. Wake Forest ... 3-3, but ranked in the bottom half of FBS teams (Sagarin ELO of 76)

That's what happens when the BCS doesn't allow you to take into account Margin of Victory. Your ranking gets heavily "biased" by how good (or how bad) your opponents are. It's the argument we've been using for the past few years for teams like Boise, TCU and Utah.

Something else to remember regarding FL. They haven't played all their OOC games. I'm not sure they hold on to #2 even if they don't lose.

what? One of their OOC games is @FSU. They still have South Carolina and Georgia to play plus the SEC championship. They won't hold onto #2 if they win out. They will be #1 with a bullet.

They haven't played all their FCS teams yet...if the gap's close between them and the next person, two games like that left will hurt them a good deal, especially in the computers. This shouldn't be news. I understand what they have left, but you're overhyping UGA imo. That game shouldn't be an issue for them. USC is trying not to let the LSU loss turn into two. And lastly, my comments were about their regular season. I can see how a win against Alabama in the SECCG could put them over the top, but they might have to do that from the #3 spot depending on how things play out (especially if there are multiple undefeated teams). That's all.

They only have one FCS game. Florida will have beaten (per current BCS rank) #6 LSU, #7 South Carolina, #11 Georgia, #14 Florida State, and #18 Texas A&M. All before the SEC title game. And you honestly think there is any chance they get jumped? And your rationale for it is SOS? Come on man. I get that you are anti-SEC but that's just silly.

I'm not anti-SEC at all. I love their brand of football...especially LSU and Alabama. They go back to the Bo days. Unfortunately, the media treats them the way they do. Anything I say against the SEC is always framed in the BCS era. Has nothing to do with the conference itself. I'd say the same things about any other conference.Back to your comment about the rankings. I'm not sure where those come from. You're using the polls as they are today and that's not how the BCS works. What if FSU goes into the pooper and loses a couple more games? Same with Georgia (which is almost a guarantee IMO). I'm willing to bet LSU loses again as well. So yeah, I think it's possible that if Florida is close to the number three team (especially if it's another undefeated ND/Oregon) that when they get to Jacksonville State and La-Lafayette and ND/Oregon are playing Oklahoma, Pitt etc (in the case of ND) or USC, Cal, Stanford (in the case of Oregon) those teams can close the gap during that time and possibly overtake them.

Hmmm....if you think it's even possible, you really don't understand how the BCS rankings work. Oregon will never pass an undefeated UF in a million years due to math. UF could fall to 5th in both human polls (they are actually 3/4) and they would still be ahead of Oregon right now. The lead is massive and the computers all think UF has the hardest remaining schedule of the 3. From your example of games you trumpeted vs what you consider turds on UF's schedule.

Sagarin ratings:

Pitt #86

Cal #53

ULaLa #70

Mizzou #38

because we mostly are in the closed loop portion of the schedule for the remainder, computer rankings aren't going to change much within conferences (if A&M beats LSU, that diminishes UF's win over LSU but increases the value of the A&M win). The SEC has 7 ranked teams and they are a combined 40-4 with all 4 losses coming vs each other. Barring something like UK beating UGA or Auburn beating Bama, you just aren't going to see negative movement like you are suggesting.

 

[GeauxTigers]

Oregon better look the hell out on Thursday. This game has TRAP written all over it.

Oregon actually has a good defense. I don't see them losing this year...regular season that is.

 

[jurb26]

Oregon better look the hell out on Thursday. This game has TRAP written all over it.

Oregon actually has a good defense. I don't see them losing this year...regular season that is.

Oregon will loose 2 this year, prior to the bowls.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

Lot's of bad teams in the SEC which no one ever wants to discuss. Alabama is the clear class of the nation, the rest of the conference has a bunch of flawed teams just like everywhere else. LSU barely beat an Auburn team which might not win a conference game, and might win only two total (New Mexico State and ULM in OT). Auburn also got housed by Ole Miss who lost by 35 at home to Texas (66-31). Texas just lost to Oklahoma by 40. Also I normally like LSU fans but GT is terrible, has to be embarrassing for other LSU fans.

 

[madhatter]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

Lot's of bad teams in the SEC which no one ever wants to discuss. Alabama is the clear class of the nation, the rest of the conference has a bunch of flawed teams just like everywhere else. LSU barely beat an Auburn team which might not win a conference game, and might win only two total (New Mexico State and ULM in OT). Auburn also got housed by Ole Miss who lost by 35 at home to Texas (66-31). Texas just lost to Oklahoma by 40.

Also I normally like LSU fans but GT is terrible, has to be embarrassing for other LSU fans.

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I will #### in my hand, smear it on my forehead, then take a shot video of me downing some pga if AU wins a conference game this year.

 

[Slapdash]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

Lot's of bad teams in the SEC which no one ever wants to discuss. Alabama is the clear class of the nation, the rest of the conference has a bunch of flawed teams just like everywhere else. LSU barely beat an Auburn team which might not win a conference game, and might win only two total (New Mexico State and ULM in OT). Auburn also got housed by Ole Miss who lost by 35 at home to Texas (66-31). Texas just lost to Oklahoma by 40.

Also I normally like LSU fans but GT is terrible, has to be embarrassing for other LSU fans.

I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I will #### in my hand, smear it on my forehead, then take a shot video of me downing some pga if AU wins a conference game this year.

That is almost enough reason to pull for Auburn....almost.

 

[gump]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

 

[jurb26]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Auburn.

 

[L5UT1ger]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

Lot's of bad teams in the SEC which no one ever wants to discuss. Alabama is the clear class of the nation, the rest of the conference has a bunch of flawed teams just like everywhere else. LSU barely beat an Auburn team which might not win a conference game, and might win only two total (New Mexico State and ULM in OT). Auburn also got housed by Ole Miss who lost by 35 at home to Texas (66-31). Texas just lost to Oklahoma by 40.

Also I normally like LSU fans but GT is terrible, has to be embarrassing for other LSU fans.

no comment

 

[L5UT1ger]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Auburn.

Tennessee

 

[gump]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Auburn.

Tennessee

Both could happen....but maybe Kentucky pulls the trigger before bball season so someone notices.

 

[Slapdash]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Auburn.

Tennessee

Both could happen....but maybe Kentucky pulls the trigger before bball season so someone notices.

Kentucky has a football team?

 

[Christo]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Auburn.

Tennessee

Both could happen....but maybe Kentucky pulls the trigger before bball season so someone notices.

Kentucky has a football team?

SEC! SEC! SEC!

 

[wazoo11]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Boston College or Kentucky IMO

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Now that we're halfway thru October, what school makes the first coaching fire? May be 4 jockeying for position soon in the SEC alone.

Boston College or Kentucky IMO

BC just hired a new athletic director to replace Gene DeFilippo, who is retiring at the end of the year. So I don't see anything happening before then.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Another SEC barn burner!

We actually play DEFENSE in the SEC unlike the Big 12.

Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Auburn, and Missouri play awesome DEFENSE

The top teams play defense. Unlike ANY team in the Big 12.

Lot's of bad teams in the SEC which no one ever wants to discuss. Alabama is the clear class of the nation, the rest of the conference has a bunch of flawed teams just like everywhere else. LSU barely beat an Auburn team which might not win a conference game, and might win only two total (New Mexico State and ULM in OT). Auburn also got housed by Ole Miss who lost by 35 at home to Texas (66-31). Texas just lost to Oklahoma by 40.

Also I normally like LSU fans but GT is terrible, has to be embarrassing for other LSU fans.

no comment

 

[fasteddie_21]

Oregon better look the hell out on Thursday. This game has TRAP written all over it.

Normally, I'd agree and be terrified of this Thursday's game.However, with the offweek last week, I only see this as a positive and expect Oregon to blow the doors off of ASU in the 2nd half.Hope I'm right and you're wrong....

 

[LHUCKS]

ASU could easily beat Oregon in the heat on Thursday.

ASU should be ranked and would beat a team like Ohio State on a neutral field, would give Notre Dame everything they could handle too.

 

[Brady Marino]

ASU could easily beat Oregon in the heat on Thursday.ASU should be ranked and would beat a team like Ohio State on a neutral field, would give Notre Dame everything they could handle too.

Everytime I think of Mizzou as being total dog#### this year, I remember they did beat ASU.

 

[BigJohn]

ASU could easily beat Oregon in the heat on Thursday.ASU should be ranked and would beat a team like Ohio State on a neutral field, would give Notre Dame everything they could handle too.

Why are you infatuated with Ohio State?

 

[Clayton Gray]

I'd I predict they (Georgia) will lose two of Florida, GT and Auburn. They shouldn't lose to any of them but Florida.

Have you seen Auburn play this year (except for the LSU game)?