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And they got busted because Jefferson was seen breaking into the gated neighborhood...while the others were there? How stupid is that?

 
These coaches crack me up. Down 35-13 with 12 minutes to go, 4th and 7 from the Clemson 40 and Wake Forest punts?

Someone buzz me when Jim Grove gets out of the 1930's. Half the teams in the top 25 wouldn't punt in that situation on the first drive of the game, much less when they're down three scores with 22 minutes left. You're not at a point to be playing for 20 yards of field position, guy.

 
'FreeBaGeL said:
These coaches crack me up. Down 35-13 with 12 minutes to go, 4th and 7 from the Clemson 40 and Wake Forest punts?Someone buzz me when Jim Grove gets out of the 1930's. Half the teams in the top 25 wouldn't punt in that situation on the first drive of the game, much less when they're down three scores with 22 minutes left. You're not at a point to be playing for 20 yards of field position, guy.
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Some of these coaches are amazing. Punting in that situation is such a kick in the balls to your fanbase.
 
'Premier said:
'FreeBaGeL said:
These coaches crack me up. Down 35-13 with 12 minutes to go, 4th and 7 from the Clemson 40 and Wake Forest punts?Someone buzz me when Jim Grove gets out of the 1930's. Half the teams in the top 25 wouldn't punt in that situation on the first drive of the game, much less when they're down three scores with 22 minutes left. You're not at a point to be playing for 20 yards of field position, guy.
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Some of these coaches are amazing. Punting in that situation is such a kick in the balls to your fanbase.
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And your team.
 
'gump said:
And they got busted because Jefferson was seen breaking into the gated neighborhood...while the others were there? How stupid is that?
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Honey Badger told Jefferson to throw the stash away, but he threw it to the cops instead.
 
Thought this was pretty good, from Stew Mandel:

With the Ducks pulling starters by halftime in five of their seven games, their stats are often misleading. Do any of the SI number crunchers have efficiency measurements for Oregon's first halves, when the Ducks have outscored opponents 234-46 to date, specifically defensively? Cheers.

-- Aaron, Portland

When looking for efficiency numbers, I usually rely on Bill Connelly's S&P ratings, which can be found at Football Outsiders. His offensive and defensive rankings grade success on a play-by-play basis (rather than cumulative yardage totals) as measured by down and distance and position on the field, and they eliminate garbage-time data, which addresses the problem Aaron addresses. They're also adjusted for strength of opponent, and thus can be a bit haphazard early in the season, but we're reaching a point where things are starting to even out.

According to those numbers, Oregon ranks third in the nation in defensive efficiency, behind only Alabama and Oklahoma. I'm not sure the exact ranking matters, but the fact the Ducks are included in the top 10 (as opposed to 46th in the NCAA's total defense category) is more reflective of their play. For instance, Oregon allowed Arizona State to gain 408 yards in last Thursday's 43-21 win. By conventional metrics, that's not considered a strong performance. However, it looks a lot different upon recognizing the Sun Devils notched more than half those yards (206) in the fourth quarter, when they trailed 43-7, and when the Ducks, from what I could see, were playing primarily guys not listed on their two-deep. If I were to name the top 10 to 15 defenses in the country from what I've seen, they'd mostly align with those sitting at the top of that S&P list.
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:thumbup:
 
'roadkill1292 said:
'ffldrew said:
Honey Badger Busted
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We need to get these stupid laws repealed. That's what everybody thought when they saw this story, right?
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If he had thought about it he could have come to CU in Boulder - not a problem with it here. He could have had a prescription and been fine.Surprised CU/CSU doesn't use this as a recruiting tool.

 
'General Malaise said:
Thought this was pretty good, from Stew Mandel:

With the Ducks pulling starters by halftime in five of their seven games, their stats are often misleading. Do any of the SI number crunchers have efficiency measurements for Oregon's first halves, when the Ducks have outscored opponents 234-46 to date, specifically defensively? Cheers.

-- Aaron, Portland

When looking for efficiency numbers, I usually rely on Bill Connelly's S&P ratings, which can be found at Football Outsiders. His offensive and defensive rankings grade success on a play-by-play basis (rather than cumulative yardage totals) as measured by down and distance and position on the field, and they eliminate garbage-time data, which addresses the problem Aaron addresses. They're also adjusted for strength of opponent, and thus can be a bit haphazard early in the season, but we're reaching a point where things are starting to even out.

According to those numbers, Oregon ranks third in the nation in defensive efficiency, behind only Alabama and Oklahoma. I'm not sure the exact ranking matters, but the fact the Ducks are included in the top 10 (as opposed to 46th in the NCAA's total defense category) is more reflective of their play. For instance, Oregon allowed Arizona State to gain 408 yards in last Thursday's 43-21 win. By conventional metrics, that's not considered a strong performance. However, it looks a lot different upon recognizing the Sun Devils notched more than half those yards (206) in the fourth quarter, when they trailed 43-7, and when the Ducks, from what I could see, were playing primarily guys not listed on their two-deep. If I were to name the top 10 to 15 defenses in the country from what I've seen, they'd mostly align with those sitting at the top of that S&P list.
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:thumbup:
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I dunno who you think you are, but bringing facts about any team having a legit defense outside of the SEC are simply not welcome 'round these here parts. And saying it's Oregon, with that borderline illegal team the way they hurry up 'm stuff....well, that just can't be true. It CAN'T BE!
 
'General Malaise said:
Thought this was pretty good, from Stew Mandel:

With the Ducks pulling starters by halftime in five of their seven games, their stats are often misleading. Do any of the SI number crunchers have efficiency measurements for Oregon's first halves, when the Ducks have outscored opponents 234-46 to date, specifically defensively? Cheers.

-- Aaron, Portland
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Trust me, this stat is not lost on everyone in the wagering thread.Shark move is to bet Oregon in the 1H ONLY every week. By the middle of the 3rd quarter, Kelly has the trombone player at nose tackle.

 
'fasteddie_21 said:
'General Malaise said:
Thought this was pretty good, from Stew Mandel:

With the Ducks pulling starters by halftime in five of their seven games, their stats are often misleading. Do any of the SI number crunchers have efficiency measurements for Oregon's first halves, when the Ducks have outscored opponents 234-46 to date, specifically defensively? Cheers.

-- Aaron, Portland

When looking for efficiency numbers, I usually rely on Bill Connelly's S&P ratings, which can be found at Football Outsiders. His offensive and defensive rankings grade success on a play-by-play basis (rather than cumulative yardage totals) as measured by down and distance and position on the field, and they eliminate garbage-time data, which addresses the problem Aaron addresses. They're also adjusted for strength of opponent, and thus can be a bit haphazard early in the season, but we're reaching a point where things are starting to even out.

According to those numbers, Oregon ranks third in the nation in defensive efficiency, behind only Alabama and Oklahoma. I'm not sure the exact ranking matters, but the fact the Ducks are included in the top 10 (as opposed to 46th in the NCAA's total defense category) is more reflective of their play. For instance, Oregon allowed Arizona State to gain 408 yards in last Thursday's 43-21 win. By conventional metrics, that's not considered a strong performance. However, it looks a lot different upon recognizing the Sun Devils notched more than half those yards (206) in the fourth quarter, when they trailed 43-7, and when the Ducks, from what I could see, were playing primarily guys not listed on their two-deep. If I were to name the top 10 to 15 defenses in the country from what I've seen, they'd mostly align with those sitting at the top of that S&P list.
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:thumbup:
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I dunno who you think you are, but bringing facts about any team having a legit defense outside of the SEC are simply not welcome 'round these here parts. And saying it's Oregon, with that borderline illegal team the way they hurry up 'm stuff....well, that just can't be true. It CAN'T BE!
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You don't do martyr very well
 
'Raider Nation said:
'General Malaise said:
Thought this was pretty good, from Stew Mandel:

With the Ducks pulling starters by halftime in five of their seven games, their stats are often misleading. Do any of the SI number crunchers have efficiency measurements for Oregon's first halves, when the Ducks have outscored opponents 234-46 to date, specifically defensively? Cheers.

-- Aaron, Portland
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Trust me, this stat is not lost on everyone in the wagering thread.Shark move is to bet Oregon in the 1H ONLY every week. By the middle of the 3rd quarter, Kelly has the trombone player at nose tackle.
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Oregon is a 47-point favorite this week, and a 30-point halftime favorite.
 
Don't have a good read on UF/UGA today. Florida's offense is worse than people realize, and that's saying something. On the other hand, Georgia is really untested, absent the USC loss. But that game was in many ways as fluky as USC's loss was to UF.

I want to like Georgia as an upset pick, but I don't think blowing out Vandy and handling MIZZOU on the road is enough to give me confidence in them. Throw in a rivalry game on a neutral site, and nothing would surprise me in that one.

 
Alabama

Florida, by 2 scores

KState (but oh how I'm pulling for TT)

Oregon

Oklahoma

These are my guesses to the winners today, in the Top 5 games.

 
Wow, that was really sad actually, how it ended. Both teams on the field. He couldn't show his face, crying. Pretty brutal.

 
Clowney makes the game-winning play (sack-strip) after being held in check all game.

eta: Guess it wasn't quite the game winner since UT got the ball back, but now SC got a pick.

 
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