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I love college football.
CFB might produce them, but it's the fans I love. Between the excitement of the fans "getting" the new coach and the despair of the fans "losing" the existing coach, it's comedy gold. I've never seen a fanbase like this Alabama fan base...pure awesome.

 
I love college football.
CFB might produce them, but it's the fans I love. Between the excitement of the fans "getting" the new coach and the despair of the fans "losing" the existing coach, it's comedy gold. I've never seen a fanbase like this Alabama fan base...pure awesome.
What is a good Alabama board? I want to see their meltdown thread. Should be good.

Really at this point the only thing anyone has is a few random flights in and out of some airports that Saban may or may not have been on for scheduled recruiting visits.

Chip Brown is eerily silent on the matter.

 
I love college football.
CFB might produce them, but it's the fans I love. Between the excitement of the fans "getting" the new coach and the despair of the fans "losing" the existing coach, it's comedy gold. I've never seen a fanbase like this Alabama fan base...pure awesome.
What is a good Alabama board? I want to see their meltdown thread. Should be good.

Really at this point the only thing anyone has is a few random flights in and out of some airports that Saban may or may not have been on for scheduled recruiting visits.

Chip Brown is eerily silent on the matter.
I get most of my entertainment out of Facebook. If that's not enough, I go to listen to resident Alabama honk Fenebaum for about 15 minutes in sat radio. I can't imagine trying to go to any Alabama boards these days.

 
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Awesome...

 
TigerDroppings, tidefans, and aufamily are all good for horrible fans and blind homerism. The creme of the crop however is Hogville.net. Those people know insane meltdowns like no other.

ShaggyBevo is also awesome, but in a good way mostly.

 
Burton says the UT Pres is still fighting for Mack, but BOR will have final say. There's a BOR meeting on Thurs.

He also says his source doesnt think Saban is interested, and that the name that pops to the front is Jimbo Fisher. He got 'crossways' with the FSU admin.

 
Bowling Green HC Dave Clawson takes Wake job. Homer is gonna be crushed.

Luke Fickell of Ohio DC being mentioned as a possible replacement for Clawson.
 
Bowling Green HC Dave Clawson takes Wake job. Homer is gonna be crushed.

Luke Fickell of Ohio DC being mentioned as a possible replacement for Clawson.
I expected Fickell's stock, which wasn't that high, to drop with all the defensive breakdowns the Buckeyes had this year.

I didn't think he wowed anyone when he was the interim either

 
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Bowling Green HC Dave Clawson takes Wake job. Homer is gonna be crushed.

Luke Fickell of Ohio DC being mentioned as a possible replacement for Clawson.
Given the lack of openings I thought he'd be around one more year, but I'd be lying if I never said in the back of my head 'oh ####' after beating Northern Illinois.

Good luck, Clawson. Good spot too. His early teams usually struggle and hit their stride after a few years, needs a patient program, should get it at Wake.

 
Bowling Green HC Dave Clawson takes Wake job. Homer is gonna be crushed.

Luke Fickell of Ohio DC being mentioned as a possible replacement for Clawson.
I expected Fickell's stock, which wasn't that high, to drop with all the defensive breakdowns the Buckeyes had this year.

I didn't think he wowed anyone when he was the interim either
I thought he did a good job managing an impossible situation in 2011.

I also think his name has come under fire because he is the most recognizable name associated with the defense. He's not even the full time DC, he's the co DC. I bet most Buckeye fans can't even name the other guy, but they all want Fickell gone. Makes sense. :lmao:

 
timschochet said:
I just think their defense is on a par with Alabama and Stanford. What team, not on my list of 5, would you favor tI beat LSU on a neutral site?
Why do you think that?

They are 49th in opponent yards per play. They are 72nd in 3rd down conversion defense. They are 29th in opponent points per game. They are 41st in opponent points per play.

To put that into perspective for you, here are Alabama's, Stanford's, and even UCLA's ranks in those categories:

Yards Per Play:

10. Stanford

14. Alabama

27. UCLA

49. LSU

3rd Down Conversion Defense:

12. Stanford

17. Alabama

35. UCLA

72. LSU

Points Per Game:

3. Alabama

9. Stanford

29. LSU

35. UCLA

Points Per Play:

4. Alabama

9. Stanford

24. UCLA

41. LSU

In case you think it's the strength of the opposition holding LSU's defense down, according to Sagarin, the strength of schedules of each of these teams are: Stanford (4), UCLA (6), LSU (27), Alabama (45).

 
jurb26 said:
LSU has more talent than most teams in the country on D but they are young. 5 starters are Soph or Fresh. They don't play well enough as a group to be on par with teams like MSU, ect. Raw talent, they are better. It's a team game though.
UCLA started 8 Frosh (3 true Frosh) or Soph on defense against Southern Cal, including all of their four DBs and two of their three DL.

 
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Want a scary picture of youth?

Here is Auburn's Offensive Line and their class - yep all are scheduled to be back next year. All getting a chance to work with Marshall during a full spring.

Left Tackle
Greg Robinson (6'5, 320, So.) -- 23 career starts (12 in 2013)
Shon Coleman (6'6, 299, RSFr.)

Left Guard
Alex Kozan (6'4, 297, RSFr.) -- 12 career starts (12 in 2013)
Devonte Danzey (6'4, 282, So.)

Center
Reese Dismukes (6'3, 297, Jr.) -- 35 career starts (12 in 2013)
Tunde Fariyike (6'2, 305, Jr.)

Right Guard
Chad Slade (6'5, 313, Jr.) -- 34 career starts (12 in 2013)
Jordan Diamond (6'6, 315, RSFr.)

Right Tackle
Avery Young (6'6, 304, RSFr.) -- 7 career starts (7 in 2013)
Patrick Miller (6'7, 283, So.) -- 14 career starts (5 in 2013)
 
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jurb26 said:
LSU has more talent than most teams in the country on D but they are young. 5 starters are Soph or Fresh. They don't play well enough as a group to be on par with teams like MSU, ect. Raw talent, they are better. It's a team game though.
UCLA started 8 Frosh (3 true Frosh) or Soph on defense against Southern Cal, including all of their four DBs and two of their three DL.
That must be exciting for UCLA fans. Those guys are playing well early. Not many teams can say that. LSU has a young secondary and it shows. Tons of mental errors and out of position mistakes. It's cost them big play all season long. They will mature and get better. They are very talented, just mistake prone at the moment.
 
timschochet said:
I just think their defense is on a par with Alabama and Stanford. What team, not on my list of 5, would you favor tI beat LSU on a neutral site?
Why do you think that?

They are 49th in opponent yards per play. They are 72nd in 3rd down conversion defense. They are 29th in opponent points per game. They are 41st in opponent points per play.

To put that into perspective for you, here are Alabama's, Stanford's, and even UCLA's ranks in those categories:

Yards Per Play:

10. Stanford

14. Alabama

27. UCLA

49. LSU

3rd Down Conversion Defense:

12. Stanford

17. Alabama

35. UCLA

72. LSU

Points Per Game:

3. Alabama

9. Stanford

29. LSU

35. UCLA

Points Per Play:

4. Alabama

9. Stanford

24. UCLA

41. LSU

In case you think it's the strength of the opposition holding LSU's defense down, according to Sagarin, the strength of schedules of each of these teams are: Stanford (4), UCLA (6), LSU (27), Alabama (45).
For me it's an eye test. I've watched LSU this year several times, and except for the game against Georgia, I've been strongly impressed at how well and how physical their defense played- especially against Alabama and Texas A&M. Against Georgia they fell apart.

 
TigerDroppings, tidefans, and aufamily are all good for horrible fans and blind homerism. The creme of the crop however is Hogville.net. Those people know insane meltdowns like no other.

ShaggyBevo is also awesome, but in a good way mostly.
That's why I can't get on TigerDroppings for very long. 1 or 2 posts out of a thread might have good information, the rest of it is bickering about anything and everything.

 
I'm seeing this too. So would he finish out at Bama and coach them for the bowl? What about Texas?
He'll be recruiting for Texas before it even gets announced. No shot he coaches a Sugar Bowl that even most Bama fans don't care about.
I can't think of a single coach in the world that would walk away from the number 1 class, and try and re-recruit all over again.

It's one thing to take a better job. But I can't think of many coaches that have downgraded.

 
I'm seeing this too. So would he finish out at Bama and coach them for the bowl? What about Texas?
He'll be recruiting for Texas before it even gets announced. No shot he coaches a Sugar Bowl that even most Bama fans don't care about.
I can't think of a single coach in the world that would walk away from the number 1 class, and try and re-recruit all over again.

It's one thing to take a better job. But I can't think of many coaches that have downgraded.
Ask yourself this: Was Alabama a better job than Texas before Saban arrived?

 
I'm seeing this too. So would he finish out at Bama and coach them for the bowl? What about Texas?
He'll be recruiting for Texas before it even gets announced. No shot he coaches a Sugar Bowl that even most Bama fans don't care about.
I can't think of a single coach in the world that would walk away from the number 1 class, and try and re-recruit all over again.It's one thing to take a better job. But I can't think of many coaches that have downgraded.
Some of those recruits may be loyal to Saban and not the University of Alabama. I'm sure it would still be a good program, but why go to a place with uncertainty at the HC position.

 
I'm seeing this too. So would he finish out at Bama and coach them for the bowl? What about Texas?
He'll be recruiting for Texas before it even gets announced. No shot he coaches a Sugar Bowl that even most Bama fans don't care about.
I can't think of a single coach in the world that would walk away from the number 1 class, and try and re-recruit all over again.

It's one thing to take a better job. But I can't think of many coaches that have downgraded.
Downgraded? LOL

 
I don't understand the downplaying of the Bama job - it's a top 5 regardless of who the coach is at the moment. I'm a Clemson grad/fan so I don't have a dog in this fight but top jobs are...

Tier 1: Bama, Texas, USC, ND

These schools spend $ on every aspect of the program and you can recruit nationally.

Tier 2: Michigan, Ohio St, UF, Oklahoma, FSU

A notch below but large resource base

Tier 3: UGA, LSU, Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon

Teams that can out-recruit most in there region and can win a head to head battle against a school in the top two tiers sometimes as well. Generally has waves of success but not a period of sustained success like those above them (or in Nebraska's case, currently in a downturn).

 
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Tier 1: Bama, Texas, USC

Tier 2: LSU, UGA, FSU, Auburn, UF, Ohio State, Oklahoma

Tier 3: Oregon, Tennessee, Stanford, ND, UCLA, VT, Michigan, Nebraska, Clemson

 
Tier 1: Bama, Texas, USC

Tier 2: LSU, UGA, FSU, Auburn, UF, Ohio State, Oklahoma

Tier 3: Oregon, Tennessee, Stanford, ND, UCLA, VT, Michigan, Nebraska, Clemson
There's no way Stanford, VT, or Tennessee are in same tier as Notre Dame. Not sure Oregon is either but will concede that maybe Nike money has put them there.

 
I don't understand the downplaying of the Bama job - it's a top 5 regardless of who the coach is at the moment. I'm a Clemson grad/fan so I don't have a dog in this fight but top jobs are...

Tier 1: Bama, Texas, USC, ND

These schools spend $ on every aspect of the program and you can recruit nationally.

Tier 2: Michigan, Ohio St, UF, Oklahoma, FSU

A notch below but large resource base

Tier 3: UGA, LSU, Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon

Teams that can out-recruit most in there region and can win a head to head battle against a school in the top two tiers sometimes as well. Generally has waves of success but not a period of sustained success like those above them (or in Nebraska's case, currently in a downturn).
UGA? meh

 
Yeah Virginia Tech is not an elite program. Oklahoma State has some deep pockets and great facilities, I'd put them ahead of Va Tech. I think excluding Penn State is unfair as well, they are still a force and will be back soon enough. They are WAYYYYYYYYYY bigger than Va Tech though, even now.

 
I'm seeing this too. So would he finish out at Bama and coach them for the bowl? What about Texas?
He'll be recruiting for Texas before it even gets announced. No shot he coaches a Sugar Bowl that even most Bama fans don't care about.
I can't think of a single coach in the world that would walk away from the number 1 class, and try and re-recruit all over again.

It's one thing to take a better job. But I can't think of many coaches that have downgraded.
Ask yourself this: Was Alabama a better job than Texas before Saban arrived?
I'd say it was as good as Texas - maybe not at that exact moment when Saban came on board - but both schools had gone through their "dark ages" - it's just that Texas emerged sooner while Alabama was dealing with the whole Logan Young/Albert Means debacle. But the Stallings years were pretty good ones at Tuscaloosa and that era and the Bear's era were better than the Texas years under Royal/Akers in my opinion.

 
Nebraska still seem like a program that high in these tiers?
They are top ten in football revenue and they have the best and most loyal fan base in college football IMO. When you go to a bowl game with Nebraska, their fans travel in waves and waves. The whole state basically comes, it's amazing.

 

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