*** Official 2015 College Football Thread *** (2 Viewers)

[Abraham]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

Gamecock fans experiencing a lot of "what ifs" regarding the UT game?

Better team won.

 

[GDogg]

ESPN has this as preseaon top ten projection:

FSU

Bama

Oregon

Stanford

Auburn

Sparty

UCLA

OU

Ohio

LSU

2014 should be UCLA's best team since the 1988 team with Troy Aikman at QB. They return 9 starters on offense and 8 on defense, including 4/5 of their OL (with 3 of them entering their third year as starters), their starting QB entering his third year as a starter and the entire secondary.

I'm cautiously optimistic that UCLA will take a huge step up to be among the country's elite teams next year.

lol they are going to underperform like they always do.What are their non conf games?

They didn't underperform this year (or last year), especially while racking up the most injuries in the conference and playing the most true freshmen in the country.

They might stumble, but it should be UCLA's best team in the past 25 years or so.

Non-conf games: at Virginia, home vs. Memphis and Texas in Arlington for a "neutral" site game.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

ESPN has this as preseaon top ten projection:

FSU

Bama

Oregon

Stanford

Auburn

Sparty

UCLA

OU

Ohio

LSU

Is that ESPN or Timescotet?

Unpossible for that to be Tim's.

LSU is far too low.

Exactly. It should start with LSU #1 and then have LSU's scout team #2

 

[Mjolnirs]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

Gamecock fans experiencing a lot of "what ifs" regarding the UT game?

4th and 2 with less than 3 minutes to go and TWO TIMEOUTS to decide to punt the ball.

Wins over three top 10 teams (Missouri, Clemson and UCF) and five Bowl winners (Missouri, Clemson, UCF, Vanderbilt and Mississippi St) helps ease the pain.

It is an amazing time in Gamecock country. South Carolina didn't get their first Bowl Win until 1994 (0-8 prior to that and 7-4 since) and are now coming off their 6th bowl in a row and 3rd straight Bowl victory. It's completely unheard of a decade ago.

Three straight 11-2 seasons and final rankings of 9, 8 and now 4. In 1998 and 1999 we suffered through a 1-10 then 0-11 seasons

Losing that game to Tennessee stinks, but things are a lot better.

 

[culdeus]

ESPN has this as preseaon top ten projection:

FSU

Bama

Oregon

Stanford

Auburn

Sparty

UCLA

OU

Ohio

LSU

Awful. Same list different year.

Replace Ohio with Texas and you might be right.

 

[Slapdash]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

Gamecock fans experiencing a lot of "what ifs" regarding the UT game?

What Tennessee game?

 

[Slapdash]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

Gamecock fans experiencing a lot of "what ifs" regarding the UT game?

4th and 2 with less than 3 minutes to go and TWO TIMEOUTS to decide to punt the ball.

Wins over three top 10 teams (Missouri, Clemson and UCF) and five Bowl winners (Missouri, Clemson, UCF, Vanderbilt and Mississippi St) helps ease the pain.

It is an amazing time in Gamecock country. South Carolina didn't get their first Bowl Win until 1994 (0-8 prior to that and 7-4 since) and are now coming off their 6th bowl in a row and 3rd straight Bowl victory. It's completely unheard of a decade ago.

Three straight 11-2 seasons and final rankings of 9, 8 and now 4. In 1998 and 1999 we suffered through a 1-10 then 0-11 seasons

Losing that game to Tennessee stinks, but things are a lot better.

Feel like you left out the best part of recent years....

 

[Mjolnirs]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

Gamecock fans experiencing a lot of "what ifs" regarding the UT game?

4th and 2 with less than 3 minutes to go and TWO TIMEOUTS to decide to punt the ball.

Wins over three top 10 teams (Missouri, Clemson and UCF) and five Bowl winners (Missouri, Clemson, UCF, Vanderbilt and Mississippi St) helps ease the pain.

It is an amazing time in Gamecock country. South Carolina didn't get their first Bowl Win until 1994 (0-8 prior to that and 7-4 since) and are now coming off their 6th bowl in a row and 3rd straight Bowl victory. It's completely unheard of a decade ago.

Three straight 11-2 seasons and final rankings of 9, 8 and now 4. In 1998 and 1999 we suffered through a 1-10 then 0-11 seasons

Losing that game to Tennessee stinks, but things are a lot better.

Feel like you left out the best part of recent years....

5-0 against the kitties from the upstate? 34-17, 29-7, 34-13, 27-17, 31-17

Could that be what you mean?

 

[Emerson Biggens]

Mississippi state would not have gone undefeated in the MEAC.

Not sure where that came from, if someone said somewhere in here they thought State was good or what. I had to look up the MEAC to see what it was, but I believe they would have easily gone without a loss. Mississippi State had a good team this year.

I'm not a conference rooter. I hate Bama and Ole Miss and rooted wholeheartedly against them.

 

[wadegarrett]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

What's that trophy look like?

 

[mad sweeney]

[NCAA Logic]

His father says the Big 10 originally suspended Spence for one year because they consider ecstasy a performance-enhancing drug. The NCAA considers ecstasy a street drug, which carries a lesser penalty.

[/NCAA Logic]

Seems like the NCAA is actually on the smart side of this.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

What's that trophy look like?

Not sure but the #6 trophy looks just like the Sugar Bowl trophy.

 

[pollardsvision]

I don't recall how many joked about Louisville re-hiring Petrino, but apparently Petrino was interviewed yesterday and is one of the three finalists.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10260182/louisville-cardinals-interview-bobby-petrino

 

[The Commish]

I don't recall how many joked about Louisville re-hiring Petrino, but apparently Petrino was interviewed yesterday and is one of the three finalists.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10260182/louisville-cardinals-interview-bobby-petrino

If Narduzzi is really an option, they'd be foolish not to snatch him up. I know the ACC was excited to get Louisville because of recent past, but with Strong and Bridgewater both gone it seems that excitement has been quelled. Getting a guy like Narduzzi should get that excitement going again.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Chad Morris would be good for Louisville and also bad for Clemson.

 

[Abraham]

Bobby Petrino appears to not be a real good guy, but he is a hell of a football coach.

 

[Slapdash]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

What's that trophy look like?

I count at least three games with trophies attached to them that USC won. How about Ohio State?

 

[BigJohn]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

What's that trophy look like?

I count at least three games with trophies attached to them that USC won. How about Ohio State?

Meet the IlliBuck.

Suck it.

 

[pollardsvision]

Bobby Petrino appears to not be a real good guy, but he is a hell of a football coach.

I'm kind of starting to think it'd be a pretty good hire. It sounds terrible, but bringing in a job-hopper with a strong appetite for strange seems to be working out well for the basketball program.

 

[pollardsvision]

I don't recall how many joked about Louisville re-hiring Petrino, but apparently Petrino was interviewed yesterday and is one of the three finalists.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10260182/louisville-cardinals-interview-bobby-petrino

If Narduzzi is really an option, they'd be foolish not to snatch him up. I know the ACC was excited to get Louisville because of recent past, but with Strong and Bridgewater both gone it seems that excitement has been quelled. Getting a guy like Narduzzi should get that excitement going again.

I really don't know enough about any of the candidates have much clue who would work the best, but I'm still excited about Louisville either way.

It's a program with plenty of money that they don't mind spending on athletic resources, and the ACC needs all of those it can get.

 

[The Commish]

Bobby Petrino appears to not be a real good guy, but he is a hell of a football coach.

I'm kind of starting to think it'd be a pretty good hire. It sounds terrible, but bringing in a job-hopper with a strong appetite for strange seems to be working out well for the basketball program.

 

[pollardsvision]

Bobby Petrino appears to not be a real good guy, but he is a hell of a football coach.

I'm kind of starting to think it'd be a pretty good hire. It sounds terrible, but bringing in a job-hopper with a strong appetite for strange seems to be working out well for the basketball program.

I sure as hell wouldn't let my wife apply for a job in the UofL Athletic Department with those two prowling the halls.

 

[Tom Servo]

Bobby Petrino appears to not be a real good guy, but he is a hell of a football coach.

Just don't ride motorcycles with him.

 

[Tom Servo]

South Carolina ends the season at #4 in both polls

What's that trophy look like?

I count at least three games with trophies attached to them that USC won. How about Ohio State?

Meet the IlliBuck.

Suck it.

You could have sent 12 kids from the Dublin school district and won the Illibuck trophy.

 

[The Commish]

I don't recall how many joked about Louisville re-hiring Petrino, but apparently Petrino was interviewed yesterday and is one of the three finalists.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10260182/louisville-cardinals-interview-bobby-petrino

If Narduzzi is really an option, they'd be foolish not to snatch him up. I know the ACC was excited to get Louisville because of recent past, but with Strong and Bridgewater both gone it seems that excitement has been quelled. Getting a guy like Narduzzi should get that excitement going again.

I really don't know enough about any of the candidates have much clue who would work the best, but I'm still excited about Louisville either way.

It's a program with plenty of money that they don't mind spending on athletic resources, and the ACC needs all of those it can get.

This is actually a very good point.

 

[ffldrew]

Bobby Petrino appears to not be a real good guy, but he is a hell of a football coach.

Just don't ride motorcycles with him.

Hey - who knows where her hands were when it happened - give the guy a break he could have been distracted.

 

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Manziel Files for Draft

 

[Abraham]

Was there really a question that he would?

 

[The Commish]

Surprised he didn't try and drag out the inevitable for longer

 

[Mark Davis]

Why on earth would Rich Rod leave Arizona for Louisville? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long long time. Louisville?

Right. Who would leave a football powerhouse like Arizona?

If the two jobs were open and money equal I'd take Arizona without hesitation.

 

[Abraham]

Why on earth would Rich Rod leave Arizona for Louisville? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long long time. Louisville?

Right. Who would leave a football powerhouse like Arizona?

If the two jobs were open and money equal I'd take Arizona without hesitation.

When was the last time open coaching positions came down to "equal money?"

 

[Abraham]

Surprised he didn't try and drag out the inevitable for longer

Not me. I'm surprised he waited this long. I half expected his post-bowl interview to consist of "I"M NEVER GOING BACK TO COLLEGE STATION!!!!!"

 

[whoknew]

@YahooForde: Y sources: Petrino hiring imminent at Louisville yhoo.it/1gEcfKh

 

[Mark Davis]

Why on earth would Rich Rod leave Arizona for Louisville? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long long time. Louisville?

Right. Who would leave a football powerhouse like Arizona?

If the two jobs were open and money equal I'd take Arizona without hesitation.

When was the last time open coaching positions came down to "equal money?"

Never did, just trying to compare the two. Who wouldn't take one with significantly more money?

 

[Mark Davis]

@YahooForde: Y sources: Petrino hiring imminent at Louisville yhoo.it/1gEcfKh

Good for them. He's a great coach. It's all about winning. I hated Arkansas had to let him go but he left Jeff Long no choice. Had he just admitted to it all in the beginning he might still be there today.

 

[The Commish]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

 

[Slapdash]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

 

[Keerock]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

Maybe any student athlete that can't figure out what one standard deviation of the average is should be ineligible.

 

[roadkill1292]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

 

[Abraham]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

Based on what? It seems that a very small minority has issue with universities being exactly that.

 

[whoknew]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

But who are you really punishing? Just the kids. Not the "enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems."

 

[roadkill1292]

I don't understand either of the last two posts.

 

[Slapdash]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

Ship has sailed on the bold a long time ago and not just because of sports.

Setting that aside....how does preventing players from playing their sport improve their situation? If their goal is to go pro it robs them of a year to become better at their craft. It just reinforces the charade of "student atheletes" while harming those it purports to help. Elitst bull#### IMO

 

[The Commish]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

There are plenty of school officials living in la la land it seems. We'd have paid athletes by now if that weren't true.

 

[The Commish]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

Ship has sailed on the bold a long time ago and not just because of sports.

Setting that aside....how does preventing players from playing their sport improve their situation? If their goal is to go pro it robs them of a year to become better at their craft. It just reinforces the charade of "student atheletes" while harming those it purports to help. Elitst bull#### IMO

Seems you could get around this concern by adding an "academic redshirt" type of classification to the mix. They could keep practicing with the team and improving their skills on the field while they worked on their academics. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I can understand the argument.

 

[GDogg]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

I think some of the athletes, particularly those who quickly realize that with the step up in competition they aren't going to the NFL, NBA, etc., are there for school. I think very few schools are there for athletes, though (are UCLA's football players really 20 times more interested in History and Sociology than the rest of the student body?).

 

[pollardsvision]

Get it together guys. Today is a solemn occasion and this thread should be reserved for bad Bobby Petrino jokes.

 

[roadkill1292]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

Ship has sailed on the bold a long time ago and not just because of sports.

Setting that aside....how does preventing players from playing their sport improve their situation? If their goal is to go pro it robs them of a year to become better at their craft. It just reinforces the charade of "student atheletes" while harming those it purports to help. Elitst bull#### IMO

1. I don't want to give up the fight, which is usually an unpopular one at a football message board.

2. Such a small percentage actually turn pro that the end result is pretty one-sided, which is the definition of exploitative.

edit: Forgive the intrusion, please carry on with the scintillating Petrino discussion.

 

[Premier]

Guys this is the lamest ####ing argument I've ever seen. Take it to a thread that sucks.

 

[Slapdash]

CNN Article

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act -- legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

Article doesn't tell us much that we didn't already know. Found the above to be interesting. What would the impact be on these big programs if Drake Group succeeded in getting this kind of requirement in place?

I don't get the point of the Drake Group here, nobody is pretending these athletes are there for school.

The point is to remind people that not everybody sees this as acceptable. Universities should represent the best of who we are in this country, not be enablers of corrupt and exploitative systems.

Ship has sailed on the bold a long time ago and not just because of sports.

Setting that aside....how does preventing players from playing their sport improve their situation? If their goal is to go pro it robs them of a year to become better at their craft. It just reinforces the charade of "student atheletes" while harming those it purports to help. Elitst bull#### IMO

1. I don't want to give up the fight, which is usually an unpopular one at a football message board.

2. Such a small percentage actually turn pro that the end result is pretty one-sided, which is the definition of exploitative.

edit: Forgive the intrusion, please carry on with the scintillating Petrino discussion.

This just makes it harder for people to go pro though, more players would end up going to JUCO or choosing a different path altogether.

The idea that being a professional athelete should have anything to do with one's educational acheivement is at the heart of the problem. Drake is coming at this from the wrong perspective, one that worsens that delusion.